So we can't get the ending we want after all?
#39076
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 04:59
#39077
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 04:59
Hold The Line for me
SSV Orléan out.
#39078
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 04:59
Compile list of 'bugs'/errors (tonight's thread by Jessica), bring list to meeting with devs, prioritize list and determine WNF(Will not Fix)'s, commit fixes, test, release.
I hold out hope, I'm not going to lean on the pessimist side here.
Hold the line everyone! *salutes* I stand relieved.
#39079
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 05:01
Yes, it was so well planned and executed that they needed to have a least one circumstance to go back on to that involved Shepard being alive and continuing his story in some capacity.
Why? Oh... so that they could sell me DLC. Whether it changes the ending or not, the back door was installed.
Seems Bioware doesn't even believe that the endings were... perfect.
Hold the Line.
#39080
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 05:01
Goodwood wrote...
Computim wrote...
Goodwood wrote...
malra wrote...
I still haven't been able to do that, I still can't even play the game. I can't play any game, I bought the xbox360 just because of ME1, I was strictly p.c. before but thought this would broaden my horizons.leonardo87 wrote...
I had to see the ending again... oh god, why?
Forever scarred
See what that gets you?
I first heard of the original Mass Effect from a friend who played it on the 360, before there was a PC port. Despite his rave review, I had decided to pass since it was a console exclusive. Thankfully the rEApers made the choice to release the PC version eventually. And while I sympathize with you totally (t'was in the same boat for a good while), at some point we should at least try to muster our courage and get back out into the game world and have some fun.
Even if it isn't Mass Effect.
I actually preordered Mass Effect 1. I had followed it for a good year before it came out. The conversation options reminded me of KOTOR 1 and I had just finished KOTOR 2 at that point, and fell in love with the series before it even came out, I was not disappointed... one of my favourite games of all time.
When my buddy recommended the game, he didn't tell me that it had fully-voiced narration. That was what truly sucked me in like a thousand-dollar hooker and wouldn't let me go. I have, and will continue to, proclaim the Mass Effect-style of storytelling as the way of the future for all western RPGs. Especially when they employ phenomenal voice actors like Jennifer Hale and Joan Wyatt (who, incidentally, played Brynn Cole).
Hold the line!
YES.. Fully voiced dialog was
#39081
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 05:02
Well, his character's name is Angry Joe. And this is probably one of his more calm reviews overall, lol. I think the review is bang on, and he only started to touch on the ending. No doubt there will be a seperate video on the finale itself. It will be angrier. And it will be awesome.Nephilim5 wrote...
TarielMaeda wrote...
Angry Joe is on our side.
His fallacious ranting is exactly what we do NOT NEED. It's insulting, hyperbolistic, and just plain rude.
#39082
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 05:02
I know i know pretty stupid to not know that im sorry
#39083
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 05:03
KaiserinKai wrote...
(I knew a lot of Japanese online gamers who played on English servers in order to improve their English. I had to explain what I meant when I said that "That boss is Toast!"
Actually that's a surprisingly efficient method of improving one's command of a foreign language.
I'm playing ME in German, for aural practice.
#39084
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 05:03
Unlike this mess. Hold the line.
#39085
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 05:05
WvStolzing wrote...
KaiserinKai wrote...
(I knew a lot of Japanese online gamers who played on English servers in order to improve their English. I had to explain what I meant when I said that "That boss is Toast!"
Actually that's a surprisingly efficient method of improving one's command of a foreign language.
I'm playing ME in German, for aural practice.
But the German Version is badly translated and.......just badly acted so not really good for aural practices
Modifié par TheBull, 17 mars 2012 - 05:05 .
#39086
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 05:05
(REPOST)
1st DLC must be ending fix! Many will not buy any until that one is made.
Now then, I enjoyed the way you let us get some resolution with the previous characters. While some were not fully fleshed out as I would like i think they worked. Thane's especially was very poignant while jacobs seemed kinda dumb honestly. I mean femshep and him dont stay together? huh? Oh well, its cool. I loved the interplay between characters, like joker and garrus and tali/garrus if you didn't romance either. The subromance between joker and edi was great in my opinion. and your cutsceens were awesome! We cared for our friends and loved interacting with them. The resolution of several of the long standing issues quarian/geth, genophage etc great! Except for the rachni. I mean really? the queen gets taken over again? Sigh That ones not so great But it is liveable with so I give ya a pass on it. and the fleet scenes attacking the reapers as we come back to earth Amazing.
NOW the bad and what need to be FIXED
1. MULTIPLAYER NOT NEEDED FOR BEST ENDING. I dont play multiplayed and DO NOT want to have to to get the best ending. Reduce the war rating needed for a best OR increase starting readiness from 50 to 75% This was promised and was NOT delivered (at least for me, however several quests did bug out and unable to complete most notibely the hanar diplomat one you supposed to get kasumi )
2.Pretty much a total rewrite of the ending. use the indocrnation theory if needed. See below for my take.
3. Epilogue Stargazer can be kept at the very end but ya gotta lets us know what happens to the universe. Pull a DA:O text on screne going over key issues: A. Shepard and Love interest B. Humanity and earth C. Remainder of your crew D. Geth/quarians E. Asari, Salarians, Turians, Batarians, Krogans rachni if they lived in 1 and 3 Etc. Doesnt have to be super detailed just some text on the screne Again like in DA:O
4.. HAPPY ENDING. If I wanted a life sux then you die ending I wouldn't play Video games. There should be at least 1 ending where shepard lives. gets to stay with his/her Love interest and heck maybe become human councillar. I would also recomend 1 ending where reapers win too. Give Harby some Love {smilie}
Example-This is what i imagine:.
Child talks same speech as now. Speech wheel pops up and you say what choice you want.
CURRENT endings
1. Destroy: You die she dies everyone dies. You destroy reapers but also relays. You kill everthing relays supernova Boom gratz for next Cycle
2. Synthesis: Ending showuing reapers winning Shepard indoctinated doing speeches on the net saying to turn yourself in. Resistance is futile etc etc etc
3. Control: Shepard vaporizes. Reapers halt. Harbingers eyes and circuitry fade from red to blue then shepards voice Assuming control. Reapers turn from red to blue and then epilogue. Show reapers making humans the bullys in the universe. 1st earth empire, with the reapers destroying any race that disagrees
NEW endings
4. Delay: Argue with the child. convince it that what it has been doing is wrong. Use the example of the geth and quarion if they are together if they are not tehn use the uniting of the races or joker/edi. Try to convince the child that synthetic and organics can live together. Child will decide that reapers COULD be wrong. Reapers will halt attack and agree to return to dark space for 25000 years. Then they will return and see if you were right.
5. Refute: (Renegade type) Argue with the child. Refuse to decide. Watch as the fleets fight it out.
A-eventually if your assets are high enough Admiral hacket gets a lucky blow on harbinger and it explodes Pieces of harby hit the citadel smashing into the crucible and actvating it emp pulseing the reapers and stunning them long enough to be defeated.
B-If war assets not enough Reapers win. Shepards last sight is harby bearing down shooting his laser at us.
6. Convince:(Paragon type) This one similar to delay but you must have gotten geth and quarians together, And gotten edi/joker and High assets and readiness. Argue and convince the star child that everyone can work together. There will be bumps but the reapers are wrong. Eventually after much arguing convince him that your'e right. Reapers stop attack and agree to help rebuild all thats been destroyed. This would be (BEST ENDING)
Ok sorry for long post and any misspells but want to get across my point. So anyways gice us some closure and the OPTION to walk off into the sunset with out love's{smilie} and friends and we'll be happy fans {smilie}
BUT Don't brush us off either. This is a start, But Honestly BW's reputation has taken a HUGE blow and if this is some delaying PR move? WE WILL HOLD THE LINE.
#39087
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 05:06
TheBull wrote...
Can someone give me the Email address to Bioware??
I know i know pretty stupid to not know that im sorry
I only know because of the facebook page:
contact@bioware.com
#39088
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 05:06
ArmyKnifeX wrote...
malra wrote...
Have you mentioned that we are doing this?TamiBx wrote...
WvStolzing wrote...
Can you invite English speakers from the Japanese forums over here?
I did before, but I will post again. They tend to avoid coming to western forums =/
And that we are inviting them because we love them and want their participation?
Haha, I will, I will. Also, improving English. Got it.
Thing is, their forums are anonymous, so I can't tell who is who when they post. It's harder to pick individuals, so I have to wait for them to come here
#39089
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 05:07
Modifié par BHynes92, 17 mars 2012 - 05:08 .
#39090
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 05:08
Modifié par BHynes92, 17 mars 2012 - 05:08 .
#39091
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 05:08
BHynes92 wrote...
Phoenix AZ reporting back in. I don't think I'm gonna have to ask my usual question of "What happened in the last X hours?" That sticky thread is, in my opinion, a massive victory for the RetakeME3 movement. Now, I will ask, hopefully from someone gracious enough, what has been the overall reaction in the last 2 hours since they posted that? Just to get a sense of where my brothers and sisters are at?
It seems very optimistic
#39092
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 05:08
salute to you sir.Neroteyen wrote...
I posted this in the official feedback forum. I hope I did us justice.
(REPOST)
1st DLC must be ending fix! Many will not buy any until that one is made.
Now then, I enjoyed the way you let us get some resolution with the previous characters. While some were not fully fleshed out as I would like i think they worked. Thane's especially was very poignant while jacobs seemed kinda dumb honestly. I mean femshep and him dont stay together? huh? Oh well, its cool. I loved the interplay between characters, like joker and garrus and tali/garrus if you didn't romance either. The subromance between joker and edi was great in my opinion. and your cutsceens were awesome! We cared for our friends and loved interacting with them. The resolution of several of the long standing issues quarian/geth, genophage etc great! Except for the rachni. I mean really? the queen gets taken over again? Sigh That ones not so great But it is liveable with so I give ya a pass on it. and the fleet scenes attacking the reapers as we come back to earth Amazing.
NOW the bad and what need to be FIXED
1. MULTIPLAYER NOT NEEDED FOR BEST ENDING. I dont play multiplayed and DO NOT want to have to to get the best ending. Reduce the war rating needed for a best OR increase starting readiness from 50 to 75% This was promised and was NOT delivered (at least for me, however several quests did bug out and unable to complete most notibely the hanar diplomat one you supposed to get kasumi )
2.Pretty much a total rewrite of the ending. use the indocrnation theory if needed. See below for my take.
3. Epilogue Stargazer can be kept at the very end but ya gotta lets us know what happens to the universe. Pull a DA:O text on screne going over key issues: A. Shepard and Love interest B. Humanity and earth C. Remainder of your crew D. Geth/quarians E. Asari, Salarians, Turians, Batarians, Krogans rachni if they lived in 1 and 3 Etc. Doesnt have to be super detailed just some text on the screne Again like in DA:O
4.. HAPPY ENDING. If I wanted a life sux then you die ending I wouldn't play Video games. There should be at least 1 ending where shepard lives. gets to stay with his/her Love interest and heck maybe become human councillar. I would also recomend 1 ending where reapers win too. Give Harby some Love {smilie}
Example-This is what i imagine:.
Child talks same speech as now. Speech wheel pops up and you say what choice you want.
CURRENT endings
1. Destroy: You die she dies everyone dies. You destroy reapers but also relays. You kill everthing relays supernova Boom gratz for next Cycle
2. Synthesis: Ending showuing reapers winning Shepard indoctinated doing speeches on the net saying to turn yourself in. Resistance is futile etc etc etc
3. Control: Shepard vaporizes. Reapers halt. Harbingers eyes and circuitry fade from red to blue then shepards voice Assuming control. Reapers turn from red to blue and then epilogue. Show reapers making humans the bullys in the universe. 1st earth empire, with the reapers destroying any race that disagrees
NEW endings
4. Delay: Argue with the child. convince it that what it has been doing is wrong. Use the example of the geth and quarion if they are together if they are not tehn use the uniting of the races or joker/edi. Try to convince the child that synthetic and organics can live together. Child will decide that reapers COULD be wrong. Reapers will halt attack and agree to return to dark space for 25000 years. Then they will return and see if you were right.
5. Refute: (Renegade type) Argue with the child. Refuse to decide. Watch as the fleets fight it out.
A-eventually if your assets are high enough Admiral hacket gets a lucky blow on harbinger and it explodes Pieces of harby hit the citadel smashing into the crucible and actvating it emp pulseing the reapers and stunning them long enough to be defeated.
B-If war assets not enough Reapers win. Shepards last sight is harby bearing down shooting his laser at us.
6. Convince:(Paragon type) This one similar to delay but you must have gotten geth and quarians together, And gotten edi/joker and High assets and readiness. Argue and convince the star child that everyone can work together. There will be bumps but the reapers are wrong. Eventually after much arguing convince him that your'e right. Reapers stop attack and agree to help rebuild all thats been destroyed. This would be (BEST ENDING)
Ok sorry for long post and any misspells but want to get across my point. So anyways gice us some closure and the OPTION to walk off into the sunset with out love's{smilie} and friends and we'll be happy fans {smilie}
BUT Don't brush us off either. This is a start, But Honestly BW's reputation has taken a HUGE blow and if this is some delaying PR move? WE WILL HOLD THE LINE.
#39093
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 05:08
WvStolzing wrote...
KaiserinKai wrote...
(I knew a lot of Japanese online gamers who played on English servers in order to improve their English. I had to explain what I meant when I said that "That boss is Toast!"
Actually that's a surprisingly efficient method of improving one's command of a foreign language.
I'm playing ME in German, for aural practice.
I play mine in English lol
But hey, that's a foreign language to me.
#39094
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 05:09
that's what I like to hear. Hold the line!TheBull wrote...
BHynes92 wrote...
Phoenix AZ reporting back in. I don't think I'm gonna have to ask my usual question of "What happened in the last X hours?" That sticky thread is, in my opinion, a massive victory for the RetakeME3 movement. Now, I will ask, hopefully from someone gracious enough, what has been the overall reaction in the last 2 hours since they posted that? Just to get a sense of where my brothers and sisters are at?
It seems very optimistic
#39095
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 05:09
BHynes92 wrote...
Phoenix AZ reporting back in. I don't think I'm gonna have to ask my usual question of "What happened in the last X hours?" That sticky thread is, in my opinion, a massive victory for the RetakeME3 movement. Now, I will ask, hopefully from someone gracious enough, what has been the overall reaction in the last 2 hours since they posted that? Just to get a sense of where my brothers and sisters are at?
Some people are hopeful. Many are skeptical. Many are hopeful while being skeptical. Some people think it's a PR stall tactic. Most people are still holding the line.
#39096
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 05:09
BHynes92 wrote...
Phoenix AZ reporting back in. I don't think I'm gonna have to ask my usual question of "What happened in the last X hours?" That sticky thread is, in my opinion, a massive victory for the RetakeME3 movement. Now, I will ask, hopefully from someone gracious enough, what has been the overall reaction in the last 2 hours since they posted that? Just to get a sense of where my brothers and sisters in arms are at?
Four words: Continue Holding The Line.
#39097
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 05:09
yeah, i might have drifted off at some point.
but still a night well spent.
austrian infiltrators checking out for the 'night' at 6am.
hold the line while we try to get at least 3-4 hours of sleep.
Modifié par silencemayday, 17 mars 2012 - 05:10 .
#39098
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 05:10
cautiously optimistic, it helps that forbes has another post that includes what has happened, if we can get other outlets to report on it, then it wil be harder for them to back down on it. just a thought.TheBull wrote...
BHynes92 wrote...
Phoenix AZ reporting back in. I don't think I'm gonna have to ask my usual question of "What happened in the last X hours?" That sticky thread is, in my opinion, a massive victory for the RetakeME3 movement. Now, I will ask, hopefully from someone gracious enough, what has been the overall reaction in the last 2 hours since they posted that? Just to get a sense of where my brothers and sisters are at?
It seems very optimistic
holding the line
#39099
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 05:11
Forever in our hearts, Marauder Shields
Hold the Line!
#39100
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 05:11
malra wrote...
cautiously optimistic, it helps that forbes has another post that includes what has happened, if we can get other outlets to report on it, then it wil be harder for them to back down on it. just a thought.TheBull wrote...
BHynes92 wrote...
Phoenix AZ reporting back in. I don't think I'm gonna have to ask my usual question of "What happened in the last X hours?" That sticky thread is, in my opinion, a massive victory for the RetakeME3 movement. Now, I will ask, hopefully from someone gracious enough, what has been the overall reaction in the last 2 hours since they posted that? Just to get a sense of where my brothers and sisters are at?
It seems very optimistic
holding the line
We've got to hold the line until the end makes sense. Slight optimism is no reason to begin to slack.




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