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[Nyaore]

Elegana wrote...

XX55XX wrote...

I hear that you if cast Tali, the VS, or Garrus away as war assets for the Hammer team, they remain on Earth and survive, but you don't get to use them as part of your squad during the game. Guess that is a loophole to help save the squadmates you like the most. Joker and Liara still get spaced, though.

FINALLY. There really is a way for Bioware's precious princess to die.

Whelp, I think I just found part of my headcanon. Now I just need to figure out a way for the Normandy not to get spaced and everything is golden - at least in my imagination.

[Abaddon_86]

txgoldrush wrote...

Planescape Torment > Baldur's Gate II

Nah, never.

But Torment was frikkin awesome. I agree on that part.
Ranks pretty high on my personal hit list as well.

[Legendaryred]

Has bioware said nothing?

[sezneg]

Welcome to the last episode of who's the boss, space edition.

[RazorrX]

Kasen13 wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Risselda wrote...

Sashimi_taco wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

If people complain load enough Bioware might make an alternative ending pack.

One thing I can say that the relays being gone doesnt mean the end of everythign and eternal solitude. They can be rebuild with time and effort. As can galactic society.

That would take tens of thousands of years since they don't even know how the relays work. 

The asari i think created a mass effect relay on a smaller scale. We have a prothean on our side. I dont think itd be that far in the future

That and the whole neccessity is the mother of invention thing.
 And you're right there would be multiple species working on the same problem and if they are all somewhat isolated there could be many different ways to travel the galaxy.

While it's difficult to give an estimate on how long it would take, I think that's the real point here. There will be billions, if not trillions of people across the galaxy that want to get back home, see loved ones or any number of reasons for needing the quick interstellar travel that the Mass Relays provide.

I'd like to add though, as far as I can tell, interstellar communications is not dependant on the Mass Relays. We hear references to "comm bouys" off and on, if that's the case, then all those seperated planets will still be able to communicate, which could speed recovery (and likely allow contact with survivors who may be stranded).

I got the impression that communications between systems did in fact use the relays.  That the relays were always in communication and the comms simply piggybacked on that feed.  If this is true, every system is cut off. 

[Nyaore]

txgoldrush wrote...

Planescape Torment > Baldur's Gate II

Wouldn't know. My damn computer refuses to play the game.

[crimzontearz]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Kasen13 wrote...I'd like to add though, as far as I can tell, interstellar communications is not dependant on the Mass Relays. We hear references to "comm bouys" off and on, if that's the case, then all those seperated planets will still be able to communicate, which could speed recovery (and likely allow contact with survivors who may be stranded).

Comm Bouys rely on the Mass Relays to send datapackets at fast enough speed to be sent across the galaxy.Communications are gone for good.

QEC are not mass relay dependant

[mariatea]

Turel11234 wrote...

mass_zotz wrote...

Its not all of it but here is part of one destroy ending

Superior with sad music.
I just love how Joker looks back on an energy shockwave he can't see xD

Damn. I actually started crying during this. 

Partialy due to "Why, Bioware, WHY?" but still...

Oh, yeah. One more reason why I won't be able to replay this game.

[Jacy Pane]

Legendaryred wrote...

So all those choices don't matter because either way. Bioware, I'm disapoint.

Agreed.  For shame, Bioware, for shame...

[crimzontearz]

Nyaore wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...Planescape Torment > Baldur's Gate II

Wouldn't know. My damn computer refuses to play the game.

Mine does


awesome AWESOME game

[Unit-Alpha]

txgoldrush wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

and your not generalizing in an insulting manner?...whatever

Don't deflect; answer my question.

and do you have the entire ending in context? No you don't.

You are just another poster who judges an ending based of incomplete information.

And you are yet another member who is shoving his fingers in his ears and saying, "I can't hear the naysayers! They don't exist! The endings are perfect!"

Modifié par Unit-Alpha, 01 mars 2012 - 01:29 .

[Nyaore]

crimzontearz wrote...

Nyaore wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...Planescape Torment > Baldur's Gate II

Wouldn't know. My damn computer refuses to play the game.

Mine does


awesome AWESOME game

I hate you so much right now. 

[Quartof]

Planecape Torment suffers from bad gameplay. Sorry. I was very, very interested in the story. But gave up because the game was so boring in everything else.

Also my computer hates it.

[crimzontearz]

Nyaore wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...Nyaore wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...Planescape Torment > Baldur's Gate IIWouldn't know. My damn computer refuses to play the game.

Mine doesawesome AWESOME game

I hate you so much right now. 

Love you too....

[Unit-Alpha]

Legendaryred wrote...

Has bioware said nothing?

Chris said that they just didn't care what we thought (obviously I'm biased, so look it up; it's in this section of the forum.)

"Just because we are listening, doesn't necessarily mean we agree with
you or that we are obligated to do what you want. Please calm down and
try again without the accusations and the demands. Thank you."

Modifié par Unit-Alpha, 01 mars 2012 - 01:32 .

[Nyaore]

crimzontearz wrote...

Nyaore wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...Nyaore wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...Planescape Torment > Baldur's Gate IIWouldn't know. My damn computer refuses to play the game.

Mine doesawesome AWESOME game

I hate you so much right now. 

Love you too....

<3

[txgoldrush]

Abaddon_86 wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Planescape Torment > Baldur's Gate II

Nah, never.

But Torment was frikkin awesome. I agree on that part.
Ranks pretty high on my personal hit list as well.

BGII was more polished sure, but PST by far has a better narrative, a better character cast, and the best protagonist in an RPG.

Really BGII isn't as good as Ultima VII either.....and fan made Ultima V Lazarus has a far more compelling plot and universe than the BG series.

[TK EL_]

Ok I give up. Could someone please summarize the endings for me without spoiling the middle of the game. I need to mentally prepare myself for them.

[blueruin]

Turel11234 wrote...

mass_zotz wrote...

Its not all of it but here is part of one destroy ending

Superior with sad music.
I just love how Joker looks back on an energy shockwave he can't see xD

lol I noticed this too it's hilarious

[RazorrX]

Nyaore wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

Nyaore wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...Planescape Torment > Baldur's Gate II

Wouldn't know. My damn computer refuses to play the game.

Mine does


awesome AWESOME game

I hate you so much right now. 

Planescape is an awesome game, but I liked BG+TOB better.  I think the reason is that in BG I felt like it was my character more than in PS:T.
That said I was able to play PS:T on a vista machine, not tried since in win7.  

[txgoldrush]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

and your not generalizing in an insulting manner?...whatever

Don't deflect; answer my question.

and do you have the entire ending in context? No you don't.

You are just another poster who judges an ending based of incomplete information.

And you are yet another member who is shoving his fingers in his ears and saying, "I can't hear the naysayers! They don't exist! The endings are perfect!"

Nevermind the fact that some who played the game liked the endings.

[WvStolzing]

TK EL wrote...

Ok I give up. Could someone please summarize the endings for me without spoiling the middle of the game. I need to mentally prepare myself for them.

Just look at the youtube videos; they're posted over at: social.bioware.com/group/5245/discussion/19647/

That's enough preparation.

[kingsims]

So Liara dies regardless.... LOL what a slap to the face for the Liara fans.

[Unit-Alpha]

txgoldrush wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

and your not generalizing in an insulting manner?...whatever

Don't deflect; answer my question.

and do you have the entire ending in context? No you don't.

You are just another poster who judges an ending based of incomplete information.

And you are yet another member who is shoving his fingers in his ears and saying, "I can't hear the naysayers! They don't exist! The endings are perfect!"

Nevermind the fact that some who played the game liked the endings.

It would be moronic to think the endings were perfect. Hell, I would consider them perfect if 75% of people like them. It's not the case.

[humes spork]

RazorrX wrote...

The odds of building a new mass relay system (and it takes a system right?) in less than a few thousand years is pretty low as all eezo tech quits.  The relays are eezo tech right?  So what do we replace that with?  Both our and the Prothean technology was based heavily on reaper tech (eezo tech).  We would have to completely rethink everything and start over.

Well, it looks like the Reaper-based technology is what goes. I'd have a hard time buying that the ending causes all eezo to be destroyed as well, especially with the idea that eezo is naturally-occurring and the basic resource involving mass effect technology rather than a product of Reaper tech. Plus, you get all kinds of fridge horror, lingering questions and plot holes that arise from the ending like "what happens to biotics?" or "wouldn't the Citadel and gazillions of ships blowing up in low-Earth orbit cause a global-scale, ongoing, generational eezo exposure to billions of humans?".

Depending which way you want to go there that means humanity's either evolved to be more biotic as a race than the freakin' Asari or extinct in a couple generations since the birth rate would drop to almost zero in a matter of months.

And, back to riffing mode, it's simple. The scattered remnants of the fleet and human survivors build a giant super-mothership that has automated mass relay production facilities to fly out from Sol and re-seed the galaxy with mass relays. It could refill its energy reserves by flying into stars' coronas and everything. What, of all the science fiction series' Mass Effect riffs off, Stargate's right close to the bottom of that list...needs more Stargate.