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[CerberusSoldier]

Anyone want to dispute it now the pic is real . Dam Bioware you killed the Mass Effect Ip

[crimzontearz]

a sad thought occurred to me


Bioware and ME3 failed in doing something that a game more than a decade ago delivered on with the endings

the game is Vampire: the Masquerade - redemption

those who played the game know what I mean

[Unit-Alpha]

kingsims wrote...

So Liara dies regardless.... LOL what a slap to the face for the Liara fans.

We will always have LotSB....

[Dilos01]

I was right, this thread went up to-and passed-150 pages.  Damn does it move fast.  By tomorrow this'll reach 200 by my calculations.  Anyways I'll say this again, even though it seems pointless now, we'll just have to wait and see.  We've got six days to go people, it won't be long

[txgoldrush]

kingsims wrote...

So Liara dies regardless.... LOL what a slap to the face for the Liara fans.

no, she can survive.

In fact, speaking of varied endings, why is no one mentioning the scene where no one comes out of the crashed Normandy, implying the whole crew was killed?

[Quartof]

In the end only one thing matters.

Did that guy ever get his refund?

[Unit-Alpha]

txgoldrush wrote...

kingsims wrote...

So Liara dies regardless.... LOL what a slap to the face for the Liara fans.

no, she can survive.

In fact, speaking of varied endings, why is no one mentioning the scene where no one comes out of the crashed Normandy, implying the whole crew was killed?

Yes, because we want to talk about another depressing ending. Good call. We have more than enough of those.

[ratzerman]

crimzontearz wrote...

ratzerman wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...I am curioushow will bioware justify this?

With deafening silence.

bungie tried that

so did Silicon Knights....

ultimately everyone has to say something

Wanna bet? The series is over. There is nothing to defend. We either accept it or we don't.

Bioware does not care. If they did, they wouldn't have crafted this unimaginably cruel ending.

[txgoldrush]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

and your not generalizing in an insulting manner?...whatever

Don't deflect; answer my question.

and do you have the entire ending in context? No you don't.

You are just another poster who judges an ending based of incomplete information.

And you are yet another member who is shoving his fingers in his ears and saying, "I can't hear the naysayers! They don't exist! The endings are perfect!"

Nevermind the fact that some who played the game liked the endings.

It would be moronic to think the endings were perfect. Hell, I would consider them perfect if 75% of people like them. It's not the case.

And how are people who don't have the game, good judges of the ending? Please.

[jlb524]

Quartof wrote...

In the end only one thing matters.

Did that guy ever get his refund?

Yeah, he probably looted it back.

[txgoldrush]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

kingsims wrote...

So Liara dies regardless.... LOL what a slap to the face for the Liara fans.

no, she can survive.

In fact, speaking of varied endings, why is no one mentioning the scene where no one comes out of the crashed Normandy, implying the whole crew was killed?

Yes, because we want to talk about another depressing ending. Good call. We have more than enough of those.

and what makes you even think the best ending is depressing....hell, it could even be HOPEFUL.

Context.....

[Unit-Alpha]

txgoldrush wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

kingsims wrote...

So Liara dies regardless.... LOL what a slap to the face for the Liara fans.

no, she can survive.

In fact, speaking of varied endings, why is no one mentioning the scene where no one comes out of the crashed Normandy, implying the whole crew was killed?

Yes, because we want to talk about another depressing ending. Good call. We have more than enough of those.

and what makes you even think the best ending is depressing....hell, it could even be HOPEFUL.

Context.....

I'm talking about this, obviously.

"why is no one mentioning the scene where no one comes out of the crashed Normandy, implying the whole crew was killed"

[blueruin]

humes spork wrote...

RazorrX wrote...

The odds of building a new mass relay system (and it takes a system right?) in less than a few thousand years is pretty low as all eezo tech quits.  The relays are eezo tech right?  So what do we replace that with?  Both our and the Prothean technology was based heavily on reaper tech (eezo tech).  We would have to completely rethink everything and start over.

Well, it looks like the Reaper-based technology is what goes. I'd have a hard time buying that the ending causes all eezo to be destroyed as well, especially with the idea that eezo is naturally-occurring and the basic resource involving mass effect technology rather than a product of Reaper tech. Plus, you get all kinds of fridge horror, lingering questions and plot holes that arise from the ending like "what happens to biotics?" or "wouldn't the Citadel and gazillions of ships blowing up in low-Earth orbit cause a global-scale, ongoing, generational eezo exposure to billions of humans?".

Depending which way you want to go there that means humanity's either evolved to be more biotic as a race than the freakin' Asari or extinct in a couple generations since the birth rate would drop to almost zero in a matter of months.

And, back to riffing mode, it's simple. The scattered remnants of the fleet and human survivors build a giant super-mothership that has automated mass relay production facilities to fly out from Sol and re-seed the galaxy with mass relays. It could refill its energy reserves by flying into stars' coronas and everything. What, of all the science fiction series' Mass Effect riffs off, Stargate's right close to the bottom of that list...needs more Stargate.

I don't think they put in Matriarch Aethyta's diatribe about the asari needing to build their own mass relays (in ME2) for nothing.  That suggested it's not outside the realm of possibility for galactic society to recreate their own mass relay system.  After Mass Effect 3 probably no one is going to be shortsighted enough to laugh the blue off her ass anymore.

[txgoldrush]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

kingsims wrote...

So Liara dies regardless.... LOL what a slap to the face for the Liara fans.

no, she can survive.

In fact, speaking of varied endings, why is no one mentioning the scene where no one comes out of the crashed Normandy, implying the whole crew was killed?

Yes, because we want to talk about another depressing ending. Good call. We have more than enough of those.

and what makes you even think the best ending is depressing....hell, it could even be HOPEFUL.

Context.....

I'm talking about this, obviously.

"why is no one mentioning the scene where no one comes out of the crashed Normandy, implying the whole crew was killed"

read my post...I said BEST ending.

[Nyaore]

ratzerman wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

ratzerman wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...I am curioushow will bioware justify this?

With deafening silence.

bungie tried that

so did Silicon Knights....

ultimately everyone has to say something

Wanna bet? The series is over. There is nothing to defend. We either accept it or we don't.

Bioware does not care. If they did, they wouldn't have crafted this unimaginably cruel ending.

Eh, if this forum is any indiciation they're going to have to care once the game is released. Nothing wakes a company's emotions up more than the prospect of lost revenue - especially on the heels of the DA2 debacle.
Of course, that's assuming the mythical 7th ending isn't real and/or that the endings really weren't handled as well as some people think they are going to be. I wouldn't know. Took a nap and the forum exploded another thirty pages.

Modifié par Nyaore, 01 mars 2012 - 01:39 .

[panamakira]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Legendaryred wrote...

Has bioware said nothing?

Chris said that they just didn't care what we thought (obviously I'm biased, so look it up; it's in this section of the forum.)

"Just because we are listening, doesn't necessarily mean we agree with
you or that we are obligated to do what you want. Please calm down and
try again without the accusations and the demands. Thank you."

Um.....Stanley said that.

[Unit-Alpha]

txgoldrush wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

kingsims wrote...

So Liara dies regardless.... LOL what a slap to the face for the Liara fans.

no, she can survive.

In fact, speaking of varied endings, why is no one mentioning the scene where no one comes out of the crashed Normandy, implying the whole crew was killed?

Yes, because we want to talk about another depressing ending. Good call. We have more than enough of those.

and what makes you even think the best ending is depressing....hell, it could even be HOPEFUL.

Context.....

I'm talking about this, obviously.

"why is no one mentioning the scene where no one comes out of the crashed Normandy, implying the whole crew was killed"

read my post...I said BEST ending.

That was a response to my post about your post about the ending where no one comes out. Seriously, how are you not following this?

[AlphaJarmel]

blueruin wrote...

I don't think they put in Matriarch Aethyta's diatribe about the asari needing to build their own mass relays (in ME2) for nothing.  That suggested it's not outside the realm of possibility for galactic society to recreate their own mass relay system.  After Mass Effect 3 probably no one is going to be shortsighted enough to laugh the blue off her ass anymore.

With what resources?  With what scientists?  With what infrastructure?  Everything is wrecked.

[Unit-Alpha]

panamakira wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Legendaryred wrote...

Has bioware said nothing?

Chris said that they just didn't care what we thought (obviously I'm biased, so look it up; it's in this section of the forum.)

"Just because we are listening, doesn't necessarily mean we agree with
you or that we are obligated to do what you want. Please calm down and
try again without the accusations and the demands. Thank you."

Um.....Stanley said that.

My mistake. A different Bioware person said that. Changes nothing.

[crimzontearz]

Seriously

VTM-Redemption

[toolfan9284]

Nyaore wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Planescape Torment > Baldur's Gate II

Wouldn't know. My damn computer refuses to play the game.

Your BBQ pizza got cold...so I ated it:bandit:

BTW, Casey Hudson Interview now up on Gamespot Hotspot.  After this thread I can't watch the whole thing...

[RazorrX]

humes spork wrote...

RazorrX wrote...

The odds of building a new mass relay system (and it takes a system right?) in less than a few thousand years is pretty low as all eezo tech quits.  The relays are eezo tech right?  So what do we replace that with?  Both our and the Prothean technology was based heavily on reaper tech (eezo tech).  We would have to completely rethink everything and start over.

Well, it looks like the Reaper-based technology is what goes. I'd have a hard time buying that the ending causes all eezo to be destroyed as well, especially with the idea that eezo is naturally-occurring and the basic resource involving mass effect technology rather than a product of Reaper tech. Plus, you get all kinds of fridge horror, lingering questions and plot holes that arise from the ending like "what happens to biotics?" or "wouldn't the Citadel and gazillions of ships blowing up in low-Earth orbit cause a global-scale, ongoing, generational eezo exposure to billions of humans?".

Depending which way you want to go there that means humanity's either evolved to be more biotic as a race than the freakin' Asari or extinct in a couple generations since the birth rate would drop to almost zero in a matter of months.

And, back to riffing mode, it's simple. The scattered remnants of the fleet and human survivors build a giant super-mothership that has automated mass relay production facilities to fly out from Sol and re-seed the galaxy with mass relays. It could refill its energy reserves by flying into stars' coronas and everything. What, of all the science fiction series' Mass Effect riffs off, Stargate's right close to the bottom of that list...needs more Stargate.

eezo is not destroyed, just the means to use it in tech.  Since all reaper tech dies, it must have a special way to make eezo work.  IF that is the case (big IF) then we would need a new way to generate the same effect as reaper eezo tech.  This could take many generations.  Then if you did finally generate the eezo replacement component you would need to then build the mothership and the relays and send them out - taking even more generations (unless you blind jump from relay Prime).  So figure thousands of years at least (hundreds just to ftl to a new system in order to plant a gate).

[Dean_the_Young]

AlphaJarmel wrote...

blueruin wrote...

I don't think they put in Matriarch Aethyta's diatribe about the asari needing to build their own mass relays (in ME2) for nothing.  That suggested it's not outside the realm of possibility for galactic society to recreate their own mass relay system.  After Mass Effect 3 probably no one is going to be shortsighted enough to laugh the blue off her ass anymore.

With what resources?

The resources of a galaxy that still has FTL travel. Salvage the ruins of past civilization, explore the other 99% of the galaxy.

With what scientists? 

The ones who won the war.

With what infrastructure? 

The infrastructure that won the war by producing the fleets, armies, and macguffin.

Everything is wrecked.

Not really.

[draken-heart]

i have accepted these endings. i do not like them and would like more choice in it, but have accepted that nothing i do will make Bioware change their mind and hold the game to fix just the endings.

[SogaBan]

CptData wrote...

Pretty much what you said, OP.

In short:


BW told us, the endings won't make everybody happy.
Truth is: the endings will make everybody sad.


And that, fellow fans, is the only truth here. Lets shove that down their throat.

Actually, you can't expect  to see the so-called HAPPY ending considering the dark past of the Reapers and their incomprehensible genocide of every living species (bacteria excluded, perhaps...). BUT it would have been better if the Normandy and its crews get stranded ALONG WITH Shepard... y'know at least this sort of ending would have pleased me... but then again, the price of (probably) stopping the galactic extinction cycle should be quite astronomical!

Sometimes I wonder.... in an interview, Mr. Hudson mentioned that Mass Effect 3 will be the END of SHEPARD's story arc... does that give us indication - Mass Effect saga will continue??? Or may be the Reapers are not FULLY destryed while some of them may still be hibernating in the god-damn dark-space...

Let's keep our fingers crossed.