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[tfKR3W]

Hold the line

[Cro730]

We have certainly gained attention and will continue doing so over the weekend, as well as beyond that. It's great to be a part of this and will be great to see something come out of it. It will be interesting to see any updates by the time I get home from work tomorrow. Until then, keep up the good work guys.

[infinitekilan]

ReaverT wrote...

infinitekilan wrote...

Sl4sh3r wrote...

ReaverT wrote...

[...]

This has been dismissed as a PR ploy..


http://social.biowar...ndex/10084349/1

Hold the line soldier! That's an order!

Yes. Casey Hudson's statement is not definitive in whether or not we will get what we want. It's PR doublespeak. Once he says "sorry, but we are sticking with the current endings and will not be releasing new ones" then I will admit defeat. Until then, HOLD THE DAMN LINE!

I wish I could guys... It's not that I want an inmediate answer from BW.  It's just that everything seems to point that we are getting no EXTENDED endings (I gave upon the hope of new DLC endings as it is highly unlikely we will get any... but at least release some content explainning what happened to the rest of the races in the galaxy, if earth recovered, how or squadmates survived etc. through some kind of "director's cut" DLC ending ). And it's really hard to Hold the Line for me now.

Like general Patton would say, right now I feel "The last soldier [waitting] to be killed by the final bullet of the final battle of the final war"

This is standard PR procedure. They're weighing their options right now. It's not going to be one of those things where they immediately say "oh my bad, here you go" or "sorry, but no". They're waiting. Waiting to see if we cave first, waiting to see how well the game does after all this backlash, waiting to see what their best course of action is. Big corporations aren't used to being shoved around. This is going to take time.

As for content explaining what happened to everyone else, there is none. They intentionally left the endings up to WIIIIIIIDE interpretation, and did so in a manner that totally betrayed everything Mass Effect was built on.

[MstrJedi Kyle]

MissNet wrote...

It's the weekend. Some people have real life, ya know)
And some people have work to do *sigh*

And some of us are working the night shift!

[Mr Chr15topher]

http://social.biowar...ndex/10084349/1
This guy dissects Bioware's statements and explains how EA's PR department is trying to keep us quiet. Don't let it work! Keep holding the line people!!!

[Rob8228]

 If I had a time machine, I'd go back to the day where I purchased Mass Effect, punch myself in the face, and steal all of my money so I can't buy it. I'd say, "You will thank me later". 

[deathscythe517]

The way I see it is if Bioware wants a legitimate dialogue we should select our brightest users or vote on who to represent us when dealing with Bioware, or you know, vote on what we want addressed by the person we choose to represent us in the dialogue with Bioware or whatever. However as of this moment it's still just throwing us a bone, they're trying to get us off focus, depressed, and they want us to give up so they can continue to cut corners.

Remember, tis better to have fought and lost then to have stood by and let all you love be torn asunder.

[SkaldFish]

OMG -- did anybody else get this at the end of the game???


:innocent:

[VivaLaWhatsername]

Rob8228 wrote...

 If I had a time machine, I'd go back to the day where I purchased Mass Effect, punch myself in the face, and steal all of my money so I can't buy it. I'd say, "You will thank me later". 

Haha thats brilliant, though for me I would digitally punch my friend who suggested Mass Effect to me. I fell in love with the game as soon as I played it, and done many play throughs and now I feel like it wasn't worth the effort.

[infinitekilan]

Mr Chr15topher wrote...

http://social.biowar...ndex/10084349/1
This guy dissects Bioware's statements and explains how EA's PR department is trying to keep us quiet. Don't let it work! Keep holding the line people!!!

I love that post. It's like having our own counter-PR strategist. It gives us an incredible amount of clarity behind what Bioware is up to, and lets us continue our fight.

[Mhgasa]

Its prettey clear that caseys "statement" is all we are getting fot the forseeable future. they dont have anything planned and they wont say anything about an ending dlc before its about to release.
The fact that he has even said anything is a major victory, and means that people high up in marketing felt we couldnt be ignored, which means we are having an impact. So i think we have every reason to hold our heads high.
Still a long way to go

Hold the line.!

[Crazed Weevil]

toots1221 wrote...

revaew wrote...

did Casey Hudson's post kind feel like a slap in the face to anybody else? It made me feel even more alienated. and the whole part where he quotes sites that gave ME3 "great reviews" was like he was trying to be like "hey guys...it really is good...see?! they said so..."

I think I might have just lost more of my love for Bioware....

Casey Hudson's letter really upset me. It felt really condescending, like he was saying "all these smart people really like the game and all you lesser people are just being emotional." I know that wasn't his intent and I'm just being sensitive but yeah, his letter left me a little depressed. And from his comments it's clear that they are not really listening to us.

No that was precisely his intent. He is an 'Artist' and they always go with the 'you don't understand my brilliance' line when attacked in any way. They can try an tone it down a bit with PR wuffle, but it always come down to that. There is little point is arguing with them even...they will never see themselves as being wrong or making a mistake.

 I'm really trying to be patient with Bioware but it's starting to feel like more and more like they really don't care if we enjoyed the ending. ME3's ending left me soured on the Mass Effect franchise. Now Bioware's response is starting to leave me soured on Bioware.

I am surprised that anyone has any more patients for Bioware. They are not going to change now...they don't see any need to as can be seen from their reply 'all the game review sites gave us great reviews!'. If they cannot understand that the review sites don't pay their wages but we, the paying public do, they are not going to be able to change. And if people keep saying they'll buy games from them, why would they change. So stop...stop buying from them...and make it plain why you are not buying anything from them. Bioware will die eventually if everyone does that, but the rest of the industry might just learn from it...

[Rob8228]

xHezz90 wrote...

Rob8228 wrote...

 If I had a time machine, I'd go back to the day where I purchased Mass Effect, punch myself in the face, and steal all of my money so I can't buy it. I'd say, "You will thank me later". 

Haha thats brilliant, though for me I would digitally punch my friend who suggested Mass Effect to me. I fell in love with the game as soon as I played it, and done many play throughs and now I feel like it wasn't worth the effort.

I got a few friends into Mass Effect, none have finished three yet, but I owe them apologies. I didn't know, I didn't know!

[Rappeldrache]

It's really sad that so many people are trapped by this campain of Bioware / EA.

[deathscythe517]

Bachuck wrote...

I think the most important, and intelligent, post I've read on these forums since this controversy started has been this one from a user named atghunter. I shall quote his post:

atghunter wrote...

Posted this yesterday, I'll repost here. Hope it helps to see what's on the other side of the mirror atm.

I don't think Bioware is out of touch with their customers though I agree with an earlier poster that right now they are assessing their options. Nor do I think that everyone speaking up for them at the moment is a "yes man" or shill. That said:

I don't for a moment think there are any other endings, this was a hallucination, etc. Bioware/EA is letting these speculations go on for two reasons. First, they are letting people vent. Secondly, they are weighing options.

Years ago, I worked for a PR damage control team and everything right now is going by the book. First, re-affirm and ignore (also known as doubling down), then try and define the detractors in the mainstream with things like "this is all a big mistunderstand", etc. while remaining civil in the hopes the detractors go rabid. Meanwhile go dark and use countermeasures through third part sources to prop up your position and brand the outcry as driven by hacks, haters or a minority trying to wear out the detractors on these outlets or "shock troops" while protecting the corporate core. Next, offer something distracting (notice SWTOR is free this upcoming weekend) known as the "faux olive branch"/ask the angry people to explain their concerns (without agreeing to commit to a compromise), buy more add time (definitely going on right now), and hope it dies down. If the pressure is still on, determine the economic viability of 1) ignoring the outcry and banking on the fickle nature of consumers to get over it or 2) determining if we can make money off of fixing it.

If it is any consolation, the decision whether or not there is a fix DLC, etc, won't be made by the writers so illusions to things they wanted to convey don't matter much atm (to wit: the leads comments yesterday). I suspect he's been called in and politely told by the PR guys to not do that again. This is now a corporate problem, not an artistic struggle with fans. Somewhere in the EA bunker, attorneys, PR guys, writers and brass are sharing numbers b/c in the end this will come down to hard currency.

As one who despises the endings, I'm hoping the suits tell the visionaries that the customers are loud enough and numerous enough to swollow their pride and get them out of this storm. For those that love them, I readily accept your position and respectfully disagree.

His post was written yesterday (Thursday, March 15) and today (March 16) Bioware announced the N7 weekend "Operation: Goliath" baloney encouraging gamers to play a weekend event that promises "FREE STUFF".

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/324/index/9993278/1

Sadly, a lot of the same people who were swearing off Bioware were posting in that thread asking how they can be a part of the event. I was persoanlly disgusted, so my question to everyone was - does no one see what's going on here?

Soon after I created this thread, atghunter commented again.

atghunter wrote...

Greetings All,

First, I’m flattered someone would repost this. Many thanks.

A couple follow-up thoughts for those wondering what is likely going on with the other side of the mirror in the last couple days:

First, Operation Goliath, the free Star Wars online weekend, and the recent noncommittal overtures to listen arefaux olive branches. Sorry. Customers intrinsically want to believe companies they patronize listen and when they stop believing that, the company has to say they are listening and do anything to get the detractors off-message. There are a dozen names for this, but the most memorable was "The Shell Game."

You will know that there’s a genuine need for dialogue in the corporate bunker when the message turns from “we’re listening” to “we acknowledge we may have a disconnect with our consumers and are willing to discuss a meaningful solution to the problem.” It signals an end to non-committed deflection and opening genuine talks to solve the problem (it’s knows as “Exposing Your Throat” btw). At present, you’ll notice Bioware/EA has only said they will “explain” the endings. That’s not a give, that’s a delay tactic.

But here’s the part that amazes me as an old PR guy and is totally new. The disenfranchised base here is changing the old methodology. It’s akin to comparing old-style bunker PR defenses to new blitzkrieg-style consumers. To date, the “bunker strategy” was always used because it was virtually foolproof. However, social media and the 24 hour news cycle have simply changed everything. Twenty years ago, you could not mass 30,000 protesters into a networked base without some luck, money, a GREAT cause and (most importantly) time. By the time you did get organized, folks were either burned out or lost interest. Groups like Take Back have altered the landscape and suddenly the contest is taken from the old paradigm to a crazy new (and wonderful IMO) place. Preorder sales took away customers biggest weapon in the past (i.e. don’t buy the product). Now customers who feel they have received poor value have been potentially re-empowered by the internet. Bioware/EA is feeling the full brunt of this thing while passion is hottest. They are deploying countermeasures faster than the old strategies ever would have ever suggested. To some degree, they are being outmaneuvered atm. But now it depends on how long the protest/outcry holds up.

Two more quick points and I’ll close. First, the Child’s Play movement was brilliant. Notice over the past few days how some of the most visceral detractors to the outcry have had to shift their vitriol from “you’re spoiled selfish haters” to “sure you gave to charity, but you are spoiled selfish haters.” Nobody is drinking that Kool-Aid. Better yet, some outlets are now saying “maybe the game has problem but its still art” from the precedent message “best game ever.” That won’t fly with the mainstream. If its one thing they know is that when “art” hits the marketplace, it is a commodity, nothing more. You’ve changed the countermeasures from "unbiased" critics of the movement into drum beaters simply trying to get you angry. EA’s PR guys probably envy you (grudgingly) atm.

Second, don’t buy the only X people voted in the poll out of 1 billion customers, so they don’t care. That’s bunk. Are there "drum beaters" on both sides of this issue that just want to see controversy, sure. But if I was sitting in an office looking at that Bioware poll, I’d be reaching for a cigarette.

Finally remember, they have much more data at their disposal. They know how sales are going, how much time people are playing that are synced into Origin, etc. They will watch those numbers this weekend. If sales slow, watch for price cutting within 10 days (just over the two week US release date). It will mean that retailers are getting nervous and will slow new unit orders. As I’ve said before, this will come down to hard currency. If the protests start having an effect on that front, the response will come.

I’m an older gamer and again appreciate the repost. To everyone (on both sides) continue to let your voices be heard. You are consumers and have every right to engage in this discourse. The boards being locked yesterday proves someone is watching and knows this is an issue. I'm in the hated-ending camp to be sure, but I admire everyone one of you who is arguing for what believe on both sides!

Cheers.

Many men may be willing to die heroically for a noble cause, but few men will live humbly for one. Wilhelm Stekel

And tonight Casey Hudson responded precisely as atghunter predicted.

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/324/index/10089946

And here is atghunters thoughts on Casey's statement:

atghunter wrote...

Greetings All,

Really flattered with the responses. Respectful regards and thanks to all. Been spending a few minutes reading over Mr. Hudson’s response. Here's my PR insider perspective. Hope it helps a bit.

First, let’s simply look at strategy over content. 1) They definitely released this on a Friday evening to bury it in the news cycle (because it does acknowledge in passing there are unhappy customers, but more next paragraph). Btw, kudos to those who pointed that out earlier in the thread-Solid catch. 2) Several of the “anti-ending” articles (most notably Forbes) are now creeping into front page searches for “Mass Effect 3” instead of “Mass Effect 3 endings” and they are hoping this release will knock those stories to page 2. 3) They are hoping to deflect some of the current silence anger by combining this message with this weekend’s faux olive branches (discussed earlier).

All in all, the message release strategy is nothing too interesting at this point.

The content, however, is interesting. Most of the statement is doublespeak meant to let you see whatever you want as to as to the direction this thing is heading. Mr. Hudson then clearly tries to give validity to the greatness of the game by citing a couple news sources in the hopes of getting those stories more hits and onto search page one (nicely played EA PR), but the main thing is a clear acknowledgement that Houston has a problem with “some” fans. Mind you, he uses the term “some” and “most passionate fans” to try and minimalize the level of the outcry, but the disenfranchised fan base has reached the level of acknowledgement. That is important. Does it mean those disenfranchised fans have won? Not by a long shot. But Mr. Hudson’s statement was written (or at least approved by someone running damage control). And ultimately any time you have to acknowledge a problem with your product or customers, you have issues.

Does he continue on holding his own line that they intended “bittersweet” endings? Yes. Is the comment that you’ll see more of Commander Shepard an illusion to an “ending” DLC? Not certain but probably not at the moment. Does he utilize the “we’re listening to feedback but not promising we’ll do anything” line used on the boards yesterday? Sure.

It is clear most of his statement is insubstantial and leaves tons of room for spin either way down the road. Whether it gets used or not, management is trying to find some wiggle room in case they have to change course.

Last bit. A warning. PR guys know that right now many people’s emotions are on edge and often use a tactic called “Sound and Fury” (Shakespearean reference see Macbeth) to see if it gets people raging. It helps that strategy that people are looking at anything coming out of Bioware to detect wind changes. That said, I was reading through the thread burning with Mr. Hudson’s statement (though to be fair it is a Bioware/EA statement) and it seems for the most part folks are being passionate, but civil. EA PR will probably chalk up that aspect of this release as a failedruse de guerre (trick of war).

Stay civil, stay passionate, and stay vocal no matter which side you take. For myself, I’ll shamelessly

Hold the Line

Shortly after Casey's statement, a forum thread was created for Bioware rep Jessica Merizan to gather feedback from unsatisfied fans:

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/10098213/1#10098213

Here is atghunter analysis of that:

atghunter wrote...

Greetings all,

I promise some individual answers (working my way forward from page 18 atm) and my wife thanks you all for letting me have dinner. But first, a take on the latest Bioware maneuvers from a PR perspective.

First, I’ve never met Ms. Merizan personally, but I’ve read some of her tweets and find her to be an engaging and personable individual online. She is a PR guys dream because I believe she genuinely has empathy for the players and it shows.

That said, please remember that she (like everyone else in this storm at Bioware is saying nothing more than they are being told/authorized to say).

So on to the post. Of course, we’ve covered the whole churning things out on Friday night to avoid the news cycle under Mr. Hudson’s post. Standard Operating Procedure there. However, the tenor of Ms. Merizan's post is much better than what we’ve been seeing in the last 24 hours. Moreover, it is simply less of a CYA publicity statement acknowledging a situation but minimalizing the problem. Notice she drops the pretense of “most people love this but a few people may disagree” and heads straight into a quasi “throat exposure” by saying:

“In order for a collaboration between the devs and the fans to work, I need you guys to CONTINUE being constructive, and organizing your thoughts. I know where to look, but I need you to help me by contributing to the dialogue.”

It is a direct communication to the offended customers. No promise of change to be sure, but probably the first genuine offer to discuss this issue in terms of possible collaboration vs. discussion/explanation. It won’t make the news b/c of Mr. Hudson’s statement issued shortly before as a media "screen" (though honestly, this was probably the intended message the PR guys want us to have all along).

As I mentioned before, once you gain acknowledgement, you have taken the first step in a PR campaign towards a compromise. Lots of road ahead, but to that end, well done.

Also take that Ms. Merizan acknowledges the positive aspect of the RetakeME3 movement. From a PR standpoint, it’s like acknowledging the people you are presently struggling with actually have virtue. You’re not saying they are right, but you aren’t simply acknowledging their presence either. Mind you this can also be a gambit to 1) deflect (as we’ve previously discussed) or 2) to enrage (i.e. hope that the players will refuse to communicate and thus be seen as unreasonable at this overture). Best PR counter response: strength, civility, a touch of wariness and loads of conviction.

The only troubling thing I can see is the collecting feedback data for “weeks” comment when the game went into full release only about 12 days ago, but I’m guessing that was possibly a PR guy’s oversight who assumed (based on the historical curve of these kind of things) that this matter has devolved in a much longer time that has actually elapsed. But it is equally possible she has been keeping track as well. Still doesn’t detract from the tone of the message.

Much less deflection, a bit more acknowledgement. If it hasn’t become clear, these fights (and make no mistake, they are fights be it abet civil ones) are of move and counter-move.

Continue to make your voices heard. Give them the concise arguments I’ve read on this forum a hundred times (regardless of your side). This is a game of choices, and call me an old optimist, but I have to believe there is enough room on my hard drive for some endings for both the producers and we consumers. Continue to post respectfully, but with the passion and conviction that inspires an old gamer like me. If you do, and this ultimately turns out to be a deflection, it is a dangerous one for EA/Bioware.

Here's why. One of the greatest lessons of PR is don’t offer to negotiate, unless you mean it. Doing so and ultimately being outed is called “Brokering Solutions but Delivering Stonewalls”. Not to be melodramatic, when I did this work, we called it something else…

Sudden Death

Updates as they continue.

Hold. The. Line!

Felt like people needed reminding not to give into this crap from someone who knows what they are talking about.

Modifié par deathscythe517, 17 mars 2012 - 09:03 .

[Darth Asriel]

I feel so hollow right now. After everything I'm losing the will to fight. I'm just losing the will to fight. I don't know anymore. Hope is in short supply.

[Chatboy 91]

ALRIGHT! I finished my letter! Let me know what you guys think! I'm a bit worried it might be a bit long...

Personal
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March 17, 2012

BioWare Edmonton
200-4500 Calgary Trail NW
Edmonton, AB T6H 5R7


Dear Sir or Madam,

I write to you today, conflicted. First and foremost, let me say I have the utmost respect for BioWare, and the content creators they employ. The people who work and represent BioWare have shown consistently that their dedication to their products, and their fans; is far above and beyond excellent.

Having said that, I feel I must bring my concerns to bear. I’ve been playing video games all of my life. Throughout my many years of gaming, I’ve come across many great experiences. All of which have reinforced my belief that games are a truly great medium, capable of engaging those who play them far more than any other form of media. An excellent example of this is the Mass Effect series.

I first played Mass Effect, on January 25, 2010. I realized, somewhat late, that Mass Effect 2 was coming out, and I still hadn’t played the first Mass Effect! I started playing that day, and I didn’t stop until I finished 10 hours later, at 4 AM. To put it simply, I was amazed! The setting, the characters, the gameplay, and most importantly, the story, were all incredible. I went out the next day, and I bought a Collector’s Edition copy of Mass Effect 2. Two years later, On March 6th, I picked up my Collector’s Edition pre-order of Mass Effect 3.

All in all, I’ve put approximately 150 hours of gameplay into the Mass Effect series. To be honest, it’s been a wild ride. A ride, which I have thoroughly enjoyed being a part of. Mass Effect 3 is the crowning achievement for the series. The gameplay is top notch. The music is tailor fit to each scene. The graphics are beautiful. Most importantly however, the story is marvellous. I’ll save you the details and just say it was an emotional rollercoaster. As soon as I started I was hooked, and I think I can safely say it was honestly the best experience I have ever had in a video game, or any other form of media for that matter.

Unfortunately however, it all came crashing down; all within the last ten minutes. In the end I was presented with three choices. I was confused, none of the choices were right. I didn’t want to destroy all Synthetics, not after I had just made peace between the Quarians and the Geth. I didn’t want to control the Reapers, not after I had just told the Illusive Man that he was crazy for wanting to try. The only option that seemed remotely viable was Synthesis, which was still confusing, and poorly explained. Of course, when the final cut scene began to play I knew it simply didn’t matter. Regardless of how much I had done, how much time I had spent, how much I tried to make
everything perfect, there was no way to have a proper ending. It was over. Shepard was dead. The crew wrecked on a planet. All the relays destroyed. No closure. The only magic in that final moment came from Clint Mansell and Faunts.

Now I’m not saying the ending was bad because it was sad. I believe the biggest fault with the ending was a breakdown of the core ideas of the Mass Effect series. First, your character, was no longer your own. Regardless of how good of a Paragon or how much of a badass Renegade you were, Shepard always reacted the same way. Presented with poor logic and extremely limited options, all by a ghostly figure of a child he briefly saw in a warzone, he simply took the knowledge he was presented at face value. There was no back and forth, and no challenging what so ever on the validity of the “Star Child’s” claims. Second, and far more crucial, is the complete abandonment of the player’s choices. Regardless of Galactic Readiness, reputation, alliances, past choices or events, nothing affects the endings and their outcomes. You could argue that the final cutscene changes slightly by a few seconds, if your Effective Military Strength is high enough. Aside from those minor variations however, everything is set in stone.

What happened to the suicide mission from Mass Effect 2? If you took your time, made upgrades, planned, and made sure your squad was loyal, you could make sure that everyone made it out alive. Conversely, if you didn’t
take your time, your entire team, and Shepard would end up dying. Why do I need to listen to this child? Why can’t I simply say “No.”? Why is it that regardless of the fact that I united the entire galaxy, my choices boil down to 3 mediocre options, all of which end up ruining galactic civilization? What  happened to doing the impossible?

Finally, there are a few general issues as well. Where did the Illusive Man come from on the Citadel? How are my squad mates that were on the ground with me teleported to the Normandy? Why is the Normandy flying away from an active warzone?

Taking this all together I’m met with an immutable fact. Something needs to change. That’s why I’ve written this letter. I humbly request, along with all other members of the #RetakeMassEffect movement, that something is done about this ending. The Mass Effect series is far too great to end on a whimper. The members of this community have shown their dedication to this cause. Through forums, polls, petitions, and even donations, we’ve shown just how much we care. I can't say for sure what the best course of action for fixing this issue is. Personally, I would prefer some form of free DLC, or even paid DLC. I'm sure my fellow members of the movement will also have some great ideas.

I suppose to many people this much emotional response to a video game would be odd. However, I think it’s safe to say that anyone who has become invested in any form of media can relate. Thank you very much for taking the time to read this letter. I along with many other fans, hope to hear back soon from BioWare. Until then, we'll keep holding the line.

Best Regards,

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EDIT: GRAH STUPID FORMATING.

Modifié par Chatboy 91, 17 mars 2012 - 09:08 .

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

SkaldFish wrote...

OMG -- did anybody else get this at the end of the game???


:innocent:

:lol::lol:
Yeah, wierd innit?

[MstrJedi Kyle]

Rob8228 wrote...

xHezz90 wrote...

Rob8228 wrote...

 If I had a time machine, I'd go back to the day where I purchased Mass Effect, punch myself in the face, and steal all of my money so I can't buy it. I'd say, "You will thank me later". 

Haha thats brilliant, though for me I would digitally punch my friend who suggested Mass Effect to me. I fell in love with the game as soon as I played it, and done many play throughs and now I feel like it wasn't worth the effort.

I got a few friends into Mass Effect, none have finished three yet, but I owe them apologies. I didn't know, I didn't know!

It's not your fault! None of us could have forseen this!

[Ameno Xiel]

I don't exactly know how I got there but I want to share this video, this speech with everyone here. I know that this may go overboard but it gave me strenght to believe in this cause.

www.youtube.com/watch

To everyone who said they won't change anything, remember: nothing will ever change if we don't begin doing something at some point.  

It doesn't matter if it's on a thread on the Internet or out there in the streets, if we unite and stay strong, we will be heard.

It doesn't matter if it's about a game ending or the world ending, if we show them that it matters, we will prevail.

Hold the line, reinforce the line. Show Bioware and EA (and many other developers) that money isn't everything, that they just lost their way in the end. (pun intendet)

Sincerely,

AX

[deathscythe517]

Darth Asriel wrote...

I feel so hollow right now. After everything I'm losing the will to fight. I'm just losing the will to fight. I don't know anymore. Hope is in short supply.

Don't give up, united we can win this, but if we give in and simply scatter like they want then the industry will continue to abuse its customers. Remember, focus on the goal, remain civil, think about how happy you will be once that goal is achieved in some form or the other. We can do this, don't let fear compromise who you are.

[shoshbear]

SSV Toronto reporting in after a long shift at purgatory/afterlife/eternity or whatever bar you may fancy heh. Any news from the front lines?

[wicked_being]

Just for a little comic relief:
https://twitter.com/#!/HarbyTheReaper

Harby: DESTROY IS RED, CONTROL IS BLUE, THREE COLORED END, THAT HURTS YOU TOO

@HarbyTheReaper I chose blue in the end. How's Shepard as a boss?

Harby: HE TURNS GENOCIDE/DO NOT GENOCIDE SWITCH ON AND OFF AND THINKS ITS FUNNY WATCHING US FLY BACK AND FORTH LIKE IDIOTS

So sad...even the reaper's  more likeable than Bioware at this point

[DifferentD17]

Hi, this is DifferentD's fiance here and just wanted to say that I'm here to hold the line too! (my account isn't linking to my gaming account correctly so it wont let me post in this forum at the moment).

Hold the line for an ending that doesn't devalue the entire series! Hold the line for all the amazing characters in the Mass Effect universe that deserve better! Hold the line for Shep dammit! Shepard wouldn't want us to give up!

I refuse to buy ANYTHING Bioware or EA related until they fix &/or add to the ending.

It's not about self entitlement at all. They chose to create a series that directly involves the gamer. We all deserve what we've been promised.. let's not let them forget that!

And forget what Casey says.. I mean.. at one point he said there weren't going to be "permanent squadmates in ME3".. clearly that's not true..

Anyway.. I'm with you guys!

Shep demands that you HOLD THE LINE soldier!