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#39626
baronkohinar

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Bob3terd wrote...

i love that this movement is so big we have our own PR expert and we can actualy challenge them :P


I agree, biggest development of yesterday!

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Good morning ladies and gents, I'm back for a little bit to hold the line before I have to go out for the day.

Basically, I responded to this:

http://social.biowar...213/46#10113756

As I'm sure most of you have...keep passing this around, because we can do this.

I think the best way to go is to support the indoctrination theory, because it allows them to tie in ending DLC much more easily. Here were my ideas to put this along:

Red ending: Shepard shakes off indoctrination, stands up and carries on the fight until the end we want to see with full epilogue scenes. If you don't have enough EMS, then he/she simply dies a free being, and the LI (or, if there is no LI or LI was a non-combatent, Garrus) leads the squad into the final fight.

Blue ending: Shepard is indoctrinated. LI (or, if the LI is a non-combatant...or there is no LI, this role will be filled by Garrus) has to put him down with the rest of the squad in a Saren-style fight. Move onto appropriate ending epilogue...this would give them the bitter sweet ending they wanted and provide proper closure for fans.

Green ending: Similar to the Blue ending, except that Shepard is aware that he's indoctrinated and, after the Saren-style fight, thanks LI (or Garrus, depending) for putting him down. Carry on to boss fight as LI (or Garrus), roll appropriate epilogue.

What do you guys think?

#39628
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MeldarthX wrote...

Max Knight wrote...

dont know if anyone posted but this is what evil chriss said.
http://social.biowar.../index/10089946



Please please.........watch the name calling.  He's not evil

Lol.

#39629
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Goodwood wrote...

Meteor_VII wrote...

Computim wrote...

Goodwood wrote...

Confession time (this'll be brief, don't worry):

I've been playing a few rounds of multiplayer a night for the past two or three nights to take some of the edge off, because it's really not as bad as had been thought before release and it's a decent way to pass the time (plus it fits well with the single-player). When I started playing tonight I saw the Operation Goliath thing, not realizing what it truly represented, and so I went for a few matches -- even managed to help win a Silver challenge and kill several Brutes.

At the core, however, this was just meant to immerse myself in some runny-shooty gun fun.

Back to holding the line.


No need to apologize!  Geez we're not like the spanish inquisition.  I played some earlier this week too, it's a lot of fun.. I got ME3 for the single player epic narrative but I found I enjoyed the CoD style multiplayer.  I just want them to fix the ending haha


I agree the Multiplayer is pretty decent.... Just wish the unlocks were done better. (Got 6 shotguns before I ever got another sniper rifle - I like using rifles)


Heh, thanks guys.

And you're right about the weird unlocking system. I don't understand why you have to pay in-game credits to get avatars from other species. That, and the Ops Survival Pack—there seems to be no way to activate those.


In case no-one answered, that's Right on the D-Pad for consoles. Not sure what it is on PC.

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http://social.biowar...ndex/10084349/1

Hold the line!

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Alamandorious wrote...

Good morning ladies and gents, I'm back for a little bit to hold the line before I have to go out for the day.

Basically, I responded to this:

http://social.biowar...213/46#10113756

As I'm sure most of you have...keep passing this around, because we can do this.

I think the best way to go is to support the indoctrination theory, because it allows them to tie in ending DLC much more easily. Here were my ideas to put this along:

Red ending: Shepard shakes off indoctrination, stands up and carries on the fight until the end we want to see with full epilogue scenes. If you don't have enough EMS, then he/she simply dies a free being, and the LI (or, if there is no LI or LI was a non-combatent, Garrus) leads the squad into the final fight.

Blue ending: Shepard is indoctrinated. LI (or, if the LI is a non-combatant...or there is no LI, this role will be filled by Garrus) has to put him down with the rest of the squad in a Saren-style fight. Move onto appropriate ending epilogue...this would give them the bitter sweet ending they wanted and provide proper closure for fans.

Green ending: Similar to the Blue ending, except that Shepard is aware that he's indoctrinated and, after the Saren-style fight, thanks LI (or Garrus, depending) for putting him down. Carry on to boss fight as LI (or Garrus), roll appropriate epilogue.

What do you guys think?

Personally I don't like the indoctrination theory. It feels like grasping at straws.

This guy wrote a great way of ending it tho www.facebook.com/notes/w-daniel-willis/how-mass-effect-3-should-have-ended

Personally it's not that important for me with a happy ever after ending, but almost anything is better than what we have now.

#39632
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We all got here. And we all will hold the line!
Don't lose faith! We fight together! Bioware did what no one could ever did: make a lot of people from different countries and cultures to unite on a single objective. We will endure and we will prevail!

#39633
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Jessica Merizan wrote...

Guys, this is an ongoing dialogue. Casey's post is not the final definitive answer to your concerns. This is a collaboration.

In order to be successful in this, I need you to help me gathering feedback and tell us what you want to see. I understand that people are still feeling emotionally raw or untrusting, and I'm not saying it's not valid to feel that way. However, if you want to see your feedback implemented, this needs to become constructive and rational.

Complaining more isn't going to get you what you want. Tell us what you need. Make polls, collect your thoughts. Chris and I are gathering this information and the developers are listening.

This is a partnership. Let's have hope and make your voice heard - that includes positive feedback too (if you like something we're doing, tell us so we know to keep it up!).

I love this person. She understands. She may only be PR, but damn it if she doesn't seem to understand.

#39634
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Alamandorious wrote...

Good morning ladies and gents, I'm back for a little bit to hold the line before I have to go out for the day.

Basically, I responded to this:

http://social.biowar...213/46#10113756

As I'm sure most of you have...keep passing this around, because we can do this.

I think the best way to go is to support the indoctrination theory, because it allows them to tie in ending DLC much more easily. Here were my ideas to put this along:

Red ending: Shepard shakes off indoctrination, stands up and carries on the fight until the end we want to see with full epilogue scenes. If you don't have enough EMS, then he/she simply dies a free being, and the LI (or, if there is no LI or LI was a non-combatent, Garrus) leads the squad into the final fight.

Blue ending: Shepard is indoctrinated. LI (or, if the LI is a non-combatant...or there is no LI, this role will be filled by Garrus) has to put him down with the rest of the squad in a Saren-style fight. Move onto appropriate ending epilogue...this would give them the bitter sweet ending they wanted and provide proper closure for fans.

Green ending: Similar to the Blue ending, except that Shepard is aware that he's indoctrinated and, after the Saren-style fight, thanks LI (or Garrus, depending) for putting him down. Carry on to boss fight as LI (or Garrus), roll appropriate epilogue.

What do you guys think?


except for the part that you control someone else pretty much how a mass effect game would normally turn out

Modifié par TheBull, 17 mars 2012 - 10:14 .


#39635
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Alamandorious wrote...

Jessica Merizan wrote...

Guys, this is an ongoing dialogue. Casey's post is not the final definitive answer to your concerns. This is a collaboration.

In order to be successful in this, I need you to help me gathering feedback and tell us what you want to see. I understand that people are still feeling emotionally raw or untrusting, and I'm not saying it's not valid to feel that way. However, if you want to see your feedback implemented, this needs to become constructive and rational.

Complaining more isn't going to get you what you want. Tell us what you need. Make polls, collect your thoughts. Chris and I are gathering this information and the developers are listening.

This is a partnership. Let's have hope and make your voice heard - that includes positive feedback too (if you like something we're doing, tell us so we know to keep it up!).

I love this person. She understands. She may only be PR, but damn it if she doesn't seem to understand.


Or the very least sounds like one :whistle:

#39636
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Benirus wrote...

Alamandorious wrote...

Good morning ladies and gents, I'm back for a little bit to hold the line before I have to go out for the day.

Basically, I responded to this:

http://social.biowar...213/46#10113756

As I'm sure most of you have...keep passing this around, because we can do this.

I think the best way to go is to support the indoctrination theory, because it allows them to tie in ending DLC much more easily. Here were my ideas to put this along:

Red ending: Shepard shakes off indoctrination, stands up and carries on the fight until the end we want to see with full epilogue scenes. If you don't have enough EMS, then he/she simply dies a free being, and the LI (or, if there is no LI or LI was a non-combatent, Garrus) leads the squad into the final fight.

Blue ending: Shepard is indoctrinated. LI (or, if the LI is a non-combatant...or there is no LI, this role will be filled by Garrus) has to put him down with the rest of the squad in a Saren-style fight. Move onto appropriate ending epilogue...this would give them the bitter sweet ending they wanted and provide proper closure for fans.

Green ending: Similar to the Blue ending, except that Shepard is aware that he's indoctrinated and, after the Saren-style fight, thanks LI (or Garrus, depending) for putting him down. Carry on to boss fight as LI (or Garrus), roll appropriate epilogue.

What do you guys think?

Personally I don't like the indoctrination theory. It feels like grasping at straws.

This guy wrote a great way of ending it tho www.facebook.com/notes/w-daniel-willis/how-mass-effect-3-should-have-ended

Personally it's not that important for me with a happy ever after ending, but almost anything is better than what we have now.


We aren't grasping at straws. They are "Emergency induction ports" That line made me laugh so hard

#39637
Alamandorious

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TheBull wrote...

Alamandorious wrote...

Jessica Merizan wrote...

Guys, this is an ongoing dialogue. Casey's post is not the final definitive answer to your concerns. This is a collaboration.

In order to be successful in this, I need you to help me gathering feedback and tell us what you want to see. I understand that people are still feeling emotionally raw or untrusting, and I'm not saying it's not valid to feel that way. However, if you want to see your feedback implemented, this needs to become constructive and rational.

Complaining more isn't going to get you what you want. Tell us what you need. Make polls, collect your thoughts. Chris and I are gathering this information and the developers are listening.

This is a partnership. Let's have hope and make your voice heard - that includes positive feedback too (if you like something we're doing, tell us so we know to keep it up!).

I love this person. She understands. She may only be PR, but damn it if she doesn't seem to understand.


Or the very least sounds like one :whistle:



True, but I tend to like to think good of people until they prove otherwise.  So far, she hasn't proven to be bad, only good.

#39638
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DarthKilby wrote...
We aren't grasping at straws. They are "Emergency induction ports" That line made me laugh so hard


lol

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Benirus wrote...
Personally I don't like the indoctrination theory. It feels like grasping at straws.

This guy wrote a great way of ending it tho www.facebook.com/notes/w-daniel-willis/how-mass-effect-3-should-have-ended

Personally it's not that important for me with a happy ever after ending, but almost anything is better than what we have now.

Correction, I want the 16 different endings we where promised. With that you can basicly make whatever from space magic to epic victory or a desperate bittersweet battle.

#39640
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Ziajin wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

We finally won peace for Garrus....
We finally won Tali a home...
We finally won a chance for the blue babies....
We finally won Wrex fertility...
We finally won Jack sanity...

We lost Jenkins
We lost Pressly
We lost Kaiden/Ashley
We lost Mordin
We lost Thane
We lost Legion
We lost Marauder
We lost Anderson

We're loosing Shepard

We thought we fought for the lost, when all we did was get Lost.
The games over, but we're still fighting in our hearts in our minds.
Don't let all the deaths be in vain.
Don't let Shepard's pain and suffering be in vain.
Don't let them take away everything Shepard's fought for.

Fight For The Loss.
Stand Together.
Hold The Line.


Yeah, we won a chance to have blue babies... HOWEVER... How am I supposed to get to my lovely Liara, take care of her and my blue babies if I'm either 1) Dead, and they're trapped on some weird planet. or 2) Alive, trapped in rubble in London or the Citadel, and they're STILL trapped on that weird planet? Right... Yes, fight for the Lost, Stand Together, and Hold the line!

Remember, together we stand strong. Divided we fall apart. But always stand together my brothers and sisters, and HOLD THE LINE!


And that's what you're fighting for, for Shepard to have peace. We got Tali a home, but we don't get to build it with her. We don't get to see Wrex's little baby krogan. We don't get to see Garrus relaxing for once. Just saying.

HOLD THE LINE.

#39641
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Well, I'm off to bed. I need to be checking this thread more and be on around more often. been busy with RL. I've cooled down somewhat about the endings... Not enough though... Still agitated and angry about them. This whole movement is something I'm very passionate about still. And will forever be until we get the endings we should. I want my happy ending. I want my blue babies. I want the reapers destroyed. I want to settle down with Liara with my Femshep Audrey, die in her arms with my blue children there. Telling the stories of their mother (or is it father? LOL) who united the galaxy under one banner to stop the reapers and save Earth and everyone else. Seriously, that's all I want and others want it too! Anyway...

HOLD THE LINE! See you all later.

#39642
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Benirus wrote...

Alamandorious wrote...

Good morning ladies and gents, I'm back for a little bit to hold the line before I have to go out for the day.

Basically, I responded to this:

http://social.biowar...213/46#10113756

As I'm sure most of you have...keep passing this around, because we can do this.

I think the best way to go is to support the indoctrination theory, because it allows them to tie in ending DLC much more easily. Here were my ideas to put this along:

Red ending: Shepard shakes off indoctrination, stands up and carries on the fight until the end we want to see with full epilogue scenes. If you don't have enough EMS, then he/she simply dies a free being, and the LI (or, if there is no LI or LI was a non-combatent, Garrus) leads the squad into the final fight.

Blue ending: Shepard is indoctrinated. LI (or, if the LI is a non-combatant...or there is no LI, this role will be filled by Garrus) has to put him down with the rest of the squad in a Saren-style fight. Move onto appropriate ending epilogue...this would give them the bitter sweet ending they wanted and provide proper closure for fans.

Green ending: Similar to the Blue ending, except that Shepard is aware that he's indoctrinated and, after the Saren-style fight, thanks LI (or Garrus, depending) for putting him down. Carry on to boss fight as LI (or Garrus), roll appropriate epilogue.

What do you guys think?

Personally I don't like the indoctrination theory. It feels like grasping at straws.

This guy wrote a great way of ending it tho www.facebook.com/notes/w-daniel-willis/how-mass-effect-3-should-have-ended

Personally it's not that important for me with a happy ever after ending, but almost anything is better than what we have now.

 

^ I'm with this guy it just seems to be  grasping at straws  just like ."its all just a dream and I'll wake up"  I want happy endings, sad endings,  bittersweet  endings, tragic endings .   If a game like  Star Ocean 2 that came out during the PS 1 era can have up 80 endings and still be a pretty  linear narrative. Why its that Mass Effect 3 with is culmination of a  2  semi open stories only have 3. 

#39643
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DarthKilby wrote...

Benirus wrote...

Alamandorious wrote...

Good morning ladies and gents, I'm back for a little bit to hold the line before I have to go out for the day.

Basically, I responded to this:

http://social.biowar...213/46#10113756

As I'm sure most of you have...keep passing this around, because we can do this.

I think the best way to go is to support the indoctrination theory, because it allows them to tie in ending DLC much more easily. Here were my ideas to put this along:

Red ending: Shepard shakes off indoctrination, stands up and carries on the fight until the end we want to see with full epilogue scenes. If you don't have enough EMS, then he/she simply dies a free being, and the LI (or, if there is no LI or LI was a non-combatent, Garrus) leads the squad into the final fight.

Blue ending: Shepard is indoctrinated. LI (or, if the LI is a non-combatant...or there is no LI, this role will be filled by Garrus) has to put him down with the rest of the squad in a Saren-style fight. Move onto appropriate ending epilogue...this would give them the bitter sweet ending they wanted and provide proper closure for fans.

Green ending: Similar to the Blue ending, except that Shepard is aware that he's indoctrinated and, after the Saren-style fight, thanks LI (or Garrus, depending) for putting him down. Carry on to boss fight as LI (or Garrus), roll appropriate epilogue.

What do you guys think?

Personally I don't like the indoctrination theory. It feels like grasping at straws.

This guy wrote a great way of ending it tho www.facebook.com/notes/w-daniel-willis/how-mass-effect-3-should-have-ended

Personally it's not that important for me with a happy ever after ending, but almost anything is better than what we have now.


We aren't grasping at straws. They are "Emergency induction ports" That line made me laugh so hard


Emergency induction ports...I love you Tali :)

But the reason I'm thinking support the indoctrination theory is that it gives them an easy out; they can add on ending DLC that will work, and will cost them less money (making it more likely they'll do it) in the process, rather than re-writing everything.

Just my opinion on the matter; everyone agrees that something must be done :)

#39644
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Max Knight wrote...

dont know if anyone posted but this is what evil chriss said.
http://social.biowar.../index/10089946



Wonder why we can't comment in it? Why is it the only one locked in the whole "news" forum?

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Hey everyone. Keep the spirits high

Most gaming companies would love to have a community thats this active and passionate. Its gonna be a long journey, but in the end i feel like this amazing universe is worth fighting for. We have already gotten alot, even thou it seems like so little, its infinitely more than we had a week ago.

Hang in there, HOLD THE LINE! :)

#39646
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Oh, written in the stars
A million miles away
A message to the main
Oh
Seasons come and go
But I will never change
This is my game.


Everyone here should remember that what we are doing is working. They are scared of this movement because they have never seen anything like it before.
They thought they could just buy us off and make us quiet with a free weekend of TOR. It failed.
They thought the movement would lose steam if they offered us some big mp mission crap. It failed.
They thought that hudson's comments would demoralize... us and derail this whole movement. It failed
They think if they just wait and keep giving us more stuff we will give in. It will fail.
We are going to hold this blasted line to the last! We are going to take our games back showing them that they need us! (All in a paragon manner of course but we are still gonna hold this fraking line!)

If you need motivation to believe that we are having an effect read this: http://social.biowar...ndex/10084349/1

#39647
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DifferentD17 wrote...


Max Knight wrote...

dont know if anyone posted but this is what evil chriss said.
http://social.biowar.../index/10089946



Wonder why we can't comment in it? Why is it the only one locked in the whole "news" forum?

Probably to stop emotional fans from getting their own ass banned :lol: Also a thread like that can quickly become a hate nexus as it's directed at one of the people "responsible".

And please don't start with name calling :P He's not evil.

Hold the line!

#39648
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Posted this in the other thread...

"So we have to fight Operation: Goliath? Sounds like a euphemism for our fight right now. "

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I see what you mean and wouldn't be totally against indoctrination theory. It would be easier for BW than to full on retcon and have a massive ending overhaul patch or dlc. Its the only way I can think of to introduce a new ending relatively seamless. May be a bit cheap though.

#39650
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This line spans the globe. We will hold and we will not be brought down!