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[Matt_gekko88]

Gave them feedback, Hit them hard.

[Conspicuous Cake]

Cake reporting in for duty!

How was the line held?
Anything happen while I was asleep?

[BCMakoto]

Operation: Goliath can be a hudge succeed. However, even if I play Multiplayer 24 hours a day, it won't give them an advantage in terms of money as it is completly free.

They should consider what is more important:
People who actually only buy this game for MP, I know someone who did. In Market:
"Does this game have MP?"
"Yeah, but it isn't the main point...the main point is a decision based..."
"Alright, I buy it."
OR the people who buy every Story DLC and are the true "Fans".

Conspicuous Cake wrote...

Cake reporting in for duty!

How was the line held?
Anything happen while I was asleep?

Deepends. FTC complain filled, but we already took distance, SSV Glorious Heritage transmitted the newest alliance news report in my signature, some more people joined our side and Hold the Line.

Modifié par LPKerberos, 17 mars 2012 - 12:33 .

[wicked_being]

Another humor twitter conversation brought to you by Harbinger and Marauder Shields:

Harbinger The Reaper :
@MarauderShields I WAS LIKE MILE AWAY SHOOTING SMALL TARGETS AND TRYING TO NOT VAPORISE YOUR HUSK ASS BY ACCIDENT

Marauder Shields:
@HarbyTheReaper A giant cannon that shoots through ships.. and you can't even kill one man with it! Must have been a long day.

Harbinger The Reaper:
@MarauderShields REMINDER - I WAS FIGHTING UNITED FLEETS OF ALL GALAXY ALMOST SINGLE-TENTACLE UNTIL YOU CALLED, LONG DAY INDEED

Marauder Shields:
@HarbyTheReaper That, is a fair point. Glad I could help boss. Right, I'm off to go hang with some Banshees. Those girls know how to party!


Keep holding the line!

Modifié par wicked_being, 17 mars 2012 - 12:32 .

[Matt_gekko88]

kyrieee wrote...

When do you get liara's time capsule scene?
I think I missed it

She will ask you, if she can pay you a visit in your cabin.
You have to call her from there via InterCom.

[firstarioch]

I made a pledge. I will never buy another Bioware game again. This ending made me feel empty and not care anymore. I wanted to buy Swor and both Art books for mass effect 3 but now NO.
I cant believe there was no one during development to say : hold on a sec...guys these endings dont deliver emotional satisfaction....We have to change them....WTF

[Conspicuous Cake]

baronkohinar wrote...

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[Sunnyhat1]

Wait what ... i'm supposed to boykott MP aswell?

But ... but ... i actually like that part.

Well doh, time to clean my bike.

Hold The Line!

[Matt_gekko88]

This just shows the ingenious work of the writers...

[TheFoxBlade]

firstarioch wrote...

I made a pledge. I will never buy another Bioware game again. This ending made me feel empty and not care anymore. I wanted to buy Swor and both Art books for mass effect 3 but now NO.
I cant believe there was no one during development to say : hold on a sec...guys these endings dont deliver emotional satisfaction....We have to change them....WTF

I'm right with you, I was really looking forward to getting that art book too, but I will hold the line instead. 

[Welsh Inferno]

wicked_being wrote...

Another humor twitter conversation brought to you by Harbinger and Marauder Shields:

Harbinger The Reaper :
@MarauderShields I WAS LIKE MILE AWAY SHOOTING SMALL TARGETS AND TRYING TO NOT VAPORISE YOUR HUSK ASS BY ACCIDENT

Marauder Shields:
@HarbyTheReaper A giant cannon that shoots through ships.. and you can't even kill one man with it! Must have been a long day.

Harbinger The Reaper:
@MarauderShields REMINDER - I WAS FIGHTING UNITED FLEETS OF ALL GALAXY ALMOST SINGLE-TENTACLE UNTIL YOU CALLED, LONG DAY INDEED

Marauder Shields:
@HarbyTheReaper That, is a fair point. Glad I could help boss. Right, I'm off to go hang with some Banshees. Those girls know how to party!


Keep holding the line!

Hahahaha... mass effect fans have the best humor ever. Love it 

[TheBull]

This is also pretty amazing

[kyrieee]

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

kyrieee wrote...

When do you get liara's time capsule scene?
I think I missed it

She will ask you, if she can pay you a visit in your cabin.
You have to call her from there via InterCom.

Okay but I mean is at what point in the game? Very late?
Sry I know it's a bit off topic

[Lo Chiamavano Bulldozer]

Rappeldrache wrote...

MordiMoro wrote...

TheFoxBlade wrote...

MordiMoro wrote...

fink0806 wrote...

remember to boycott Operation: Goliath. Hold the line.

How?

Just don't play multiplayer this weekend?

Ok Thanks!
So I also canceled my subscription to SWTOR...

Where can I do this?  Good idea ....

.

I've done the same thing. EA won't see my money, until they'll fix the end of ME3.

[Matt_gekko88]

kyrieee wrote...

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

kyrieee wrote...

When do you get liara's time capsule scene?
I think I missed it

She will ask you, if she can pay you a visit in your cabin.
You have to call her from there via InterCom.

Okay but I mean is at what point in the game? Very late?
Sry I know it's a bit off topic

Actually I'd say it happens quite early in the game. It happens before Tali joins your ranks.

[Conspicuous Cake]

Got this () over a message.
It's a funny way to remind us why we are holding the line.

Modifié par Conspicuous Cake, 17 mars 2012 - 12:42 .

[Ffelan]

Alright, did a light scan of the polish-language media and am happy to report we continue to make news . The articles I came across don't take sides just report on the current developments. The comments sections seem to be divided between those who obviously did not (or do not) play games and believe the fans are crazy and unrealistic and those who obviously have played the game and agree with our views of the endings and are calling for a change.

[TheBull]

Ffelan wrote...

Alright, did a light scan of the polish-language media and am happy to report we continue to make news . The articles I came across don't take sides just report on the current developments. The comments sections seem to be divided between those who obviously did not (or do not) play games and believe the fans are crazy and unrealistic and those who obviously have played the game and agree with our views of the endings and are calling for a change.

Well good more to our cause

[ElMuchu]

B.Shep wrote...

bwFex wrote...

I really have been trying to let myself get over this nightmare, but since you guys promise you're listening here, I'll try to just say it all, get it all out.

I have invested more of myself into this series than almost any other video game franchise in my life. I loved this game. I believed in it. For five years, it delivered. I must have played ME1 and ME2 a dozen times each.

I remember the end of Mass Effect 2. Never before, in any video game I had ever played, did I feel like my actions really mattered. Knowing that the decisions I made and the hard work I put into ME2 had a very real, clear, obvious impact on who lived and who died was one of the most astounding feelings in the world to me. I remember when that laser hit the Normandy and Joker made a comment about how he was happy we upgraded the shields. That was amazing. Cause and effect. Work and reward.

The first time I went through, I lost Mordin, and it was gut-wrenching: watching him die because I made a bad decision was damning, heartbreaking. But it wasn't hopeless, because I knew I could go back, do better, and save him. I knew that I was in control, that my actions mattered. So that's exactly what I did. I reviewed my decisions, found my mistakes, and did everything right. I put together a plan, I worked hard to follow that plan, and I got the reward I had worked so hard for. And then, it was all for nothing.

When I started playing Mass Effect 3, I was blown away. It was perfect. Everything was perfect. It was incredible to see all of my decisions playing out in front of me, building up to new and outrageous outcomes. I was so sure that this was it, this was going to be the masterpiece that crowned an already near-perfect trilogy. With every war asset I gathered, and with every multiplayer game I won, I knew that my work would pay off, that I would be truly satisfied with the outcome of my hard work and smart decisions. Every time I acquired a new WA bonus, I couldn't wait to see how it would play out in the final battle. And then, it was all for nothing.

I wasn't expecting a perfect, happy ending with rainbows and butterflies. In fact, I think I may have been insulted if everyone made it through just fine. The Reapers are an enormous threat (although obviously not as invincible as they would like us to believe), and we should be right to anticipate heavy losses. But I never lost hope. I built alliances, I made the impossible happen to rally the galaxy together. I cured the genophage. I saved the Turians. I united the geth and the quarians. And then, it was all for nothing.

When Mordin died, it was heartwrenching, but I knew it was the right thing. His sacrifice was... perfect. It made sense. It was congruent with the dramatic themes that had been present since I very first met Wrex in ME1. It was not a cheap trick, a deus ex machina, an easy out. It was beautiful, meaningful, significant, relevant, and satisfying. It was an amazing way for an amazing character to sacrifice themself for an amazing thing. And then it was all for nothing.

When Thane died, it was tearjerking. I knew from the moment he explained his illness that one day, I'd have to deal with his death. I knew he was never going to survive the trilogy, and I knew it wouldn't be fun to watch him go. But when his son started reading the prayer, I lost it. His death was beautiful. It was significant. It was relevant. It was satisfying. It was meaningful. He died to protect Shepard, to protect the entire Citadel. He took a life he thought was unredeemable and used it to make the world a brighter place. And then it was all for nothing.

When Wrex and Eve thanked me for saving their species, I felt that I had truly accomplished something great. When Tali set foot on her homeworld, I felt that I had truly accomplished something great. When Javik gave his inspiring speech, I felt that I had inspired something truly great. When I activated the Citadel's arms, sat down to reminisce with Anderson one final time, I felt that I had truly accomplished something amazing. I felt that my sacrifice was meaningful. Significant. Relevant. And while still a completely unexplained deus ex machina, at least it was a little bit satisfying.

And then, just like everything else in this trilogy, it was all for nothing.

If we pretend like the indoctrination theory is false, and we're really supposed to take the ending at face value, this entire game is a lost cause. The krogans will never repopulate. The quarians will never rebuild their home world. The geth will never know what it means to be alive and independent. The salarians will never see how people can change for the better.

Instead, the quarians and turians will endure a quick, torturous extinction as they slowly starve to death, trapped in a system with no support for them. Everyone else will squabble over the scraps of Earth that haven't been completely obliterated, until the krogans drive them all to extinction and then die off without any women present. And this is all assuming that the relays didn't cause supernova-scaled extinction events simply by being destroyed, like we saw in Arrival.

And perhaps the worst part is that we don't even know. We don't know what happened to our squadmates. We didn't get any sort of catharsis, conclusion. We got five years of literary foreplay followed by a kick to the groin and a note telling us that in a couple months, we can pay Bioware $15 for them to do it to us all over again.

It's not just the abysmally depressing/sacrificial nature of the ending, either. As I've already made perfectly clear, I came into this game expecting sacrifice. When Mordin did it, it was beautiful. When Thane did it, it was beautiful. Even Verner. Stupid, misguided, idiotic Verner. Even his ridiculous sacrifice had meaning, relevance, coherence, and offered satisfaction.

No, it's not the sacrifice I have a problem with. It's the utter lack of coherence and respect for the five years of literary gold that have already been established in this franchise. We spent three games preparing to fight these reapers. I spent hours upon hours doing every side quest, picking up every war asset, maxing out my galactic readiness so that when the time came, the army I had built could make a stand, and show these Reapers that we won't go down without a fight.

In ME1, we did the impossible when we killed Sovereign. In ME2, we began to see that the Reapers aren't as immortal as they claim to be: that even they have basic needs, exploitable weaknesses. In ME3, we saw the Reapers die. We saw one get taken down by an overgrown worm. We saw one die with a few coordinated orbital bombardments. We saw several ripped apart by standard space combat. In ME1, it took three alliance fleets to kill the "invincible" Sovereign. By the end of ME3, I had assembled a galactic armada fifty times more powerful than that, and a thousand times more prepared. I never expected the fight to be easy, but I proved that we wouldn't go down without a fight, that there is always hope in unity. That's the theme we've been given for the past five years: there is hope and strength through unity. That if we work together, we can achieve the impossible.

And then we're supposed to believe that the fate of the galaxy comes down to some completely unexplained starchild asking Shepard what his favorite color is? That the army we built was all for nothing? That the squad whose loyalty we fought so hard for was all for nothing? That in the end, none of it mattered at all?

It's a poetic notion, but this isn't the place for poetry. It's one thing to rattle prose nihilistic over the course of a movie or ballad, where the audience is a passive observer, learning a lesson from the suffering and futility of a character, but that's not what Mass Effect is. Mass Effect has always been about making the player the true hero. If you really want us to all feel like we spent the past five years dumping time, energy, and emotional investment into this game just to tell us that nothing really matters, you have signed your own death certificate. Nobody pays hundreds of dollars and hours to be reminded how bleak, empty, and depressing the world can be, to be told that nothing we do matters, to be told that all of our greatest accomplishments, all of our faith, all of our work, all of our unity is for nothing.

No. It simply cannot be this bleak. I refuse to believe Bioware is really doing this. The ending of ME1 was perfect. We saw the struggle, we saw the cost, but we knew that we had worked hard, worked together, and won. The ending of ME2 was perfect. We saw the struggle, we saw the cost, but we knew that we had worked hard, worked together, and won.

Taken at face value, the end of ME3 throws every single thing we've done in the past five years into the wind, and makes the player watch from a distance as the entire galaxy is thrown into a technological dark age and a stellar extinction. Why would we care about a universe that no longer exists? We should we invest any more time or money into a world that will never be what we came to know and love?

Even if the ending is retconned, it doesn't make things better. Just knowing that the starchild was our real foe the entire time is so utterly mindless, contrived, and irrelevant to what we experienced in ME1 and ME2 that it cannot be forgiven. If that really is the truth, then Mass Effect simply isn't what we thought it was. And frankly, if this is what Mass Effect was supposed to be all along, I want no part of it. It's a useless, trite, overplayed cliche, so far beneath the praise I once gave this franchise that it hurts to think about.

No. There is no way to save this franchise without giving us the only explanation that makes sense. You know what it is. It was the plan all along. Too much evidence to not be true. Too many people reaching the same conclusions independently.

The indoctrination theory doesn't just save this franchise: it elevates it to one of the most powerful and compelling storytelling experiences I've ever had in my life. The fact that you managed to do more than indoctrinate Shepard - you managed to indoctrinate the players themselves - is astonishing. If that really was the end game, here, then you have won my gaming soul. But if that's true, then I'm still waiting for the rest of this story, the final chapter of Shepard's heroic journey. I paid to finish the fight, and if the indoctrination theory is true, it's not over yet.

And if it's not, then I just don't even care. I have been betrayed, and it's time for me to let go of the denial, the anger, the bargaining, and start working through the depression and emptiness until I can just move on. You can't keep teasing us like this. This must have seemed like a great plan at the time, but it has cost too much. These people believed in you. I believed in you.

Just make it right.

bwFex i believe you summarize what most of us are feeling after seeing the awful endings.

HOLD THE LINE!

I am with you too!

[Tira_Lu]

Welsh Inferno wrote...

Who created this? Its epic lol

awesome

[WarBaby2]

Forbes is at it again... good read:

http://www.forbes.co...ffect-3-ending/

[nupfi]

Just saw this picture in another thread:

Can someone explain this to me? Troll?

http://media.giantbo...31884897290.png

Modifié par nupfi, 17 mars 2012 - 12:46 .

[Calenardon258]

Could someone explain to me why my damn signature doesn't appear at all ? The link seems to be good :

http://nsa22.casimag...94305838761.jpg

Plus, I see the banner when I'm in the forum options, but once I post... just no signature.

[Calenardon258]

Calenardon258 wrote...

Could someone explain to me why my damn signature doesn't appear at all ? The link seems to be good :

http://nsa22.casimag...94305838761.jpg

Plus, I see the banner when I'm in the forum options, but once I post... just no signature.

EDIT : precisely what I meant ! In my editing, I SEE the banner, and on the actual posted message, nothing ! And sorry for the double post.

Modifié par Calenardon258, 17 mars 2012 - 12:49 .

[Welsh Inferno]

You all know the mission, and what is at stake.
I have come to trust each of you with my life -- but I have also heard murmurs of discontent. I share your concerns. We are trained for espionage; we would be legends, but the records are sealed. Glory in battle is not our way.
Think of our heroes; the Silent Step, who defeated a nation with a single shot. Or the Ever Alert, who kept armies at bay with hidden facts. These giants do not seem to give us solace here, but they are not all that we are.
Before the BioWareSocialnetwork, there was the fleet. Before diplomacy, there were soldiers!
Our influence stopped the rachni, but before that we held the line! Our influence stopped the krogan, but before that, we held the line!
Our influence will stop the Endings; in the battle today, we will hold the line!

Modifié par Welsh Inferno, 17 mars 2012 - 12:51 .