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Cmdr Shepard N-7 wrote...

Found this to very good and well worth the time to read...

EternalSteelFan wrote:

*snip*


That's a very good read!
Do you have the link to it?

#39927
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T-Raks wrote...

For me it' not about the ending(s) being bittersweet, but them making no sense, having plotholes and being badly written. That shouldn't happen for the closure of the Shepard story. It's disappointing because I really, really like the rest of the game.


That's why saying its about the journey kind of falls flat. The journey can be a good one heck it can be an amazing one but if the destination fails to deliver and what was the point of going all that way.

case in point this is what Max Payne said:

"They were all dead. The final gunshot was an exclamation mark on everything that had led to this point. I released my finger from the trigger, and it was over".

 
So while the journey was a good one the destination is where everything  came together and that's exactly what Mass Effect needs an exclamation mark of everything that has lead to that point.

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Good day, fellow soldiers! SSV Donetsk reporting after having 13 hours sleep, which made crew feeling less depressed!
This reading gave me some hope too
http://social.biowar...ndex/10084349/1

Glad to see how many are joining our ranks today, hold the line!

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This is SSV Rugeley, sub regiment of the UK fleet reporting in for the first time.

I know this has all been said many times but I feel the need to reiterate that the end of such a compelling and immersive series has left both myself and others I know traumatised.

How could this happen? main issue with the end would have to be. It doesn't make any sense!!!!!!

crew members leaving, why is shepard forced to obey to that kids idiotic options?

This game needs to be patched as the last 10 minutes are broken. Other than that, incredible game!

SSV Rugeley, hunkered down and


HOLDING THE DAMN LINE

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Pinkflu wrote...

Hey, line-holders. Just discovered this piece of gold from the Mass Deflect tumblr: http://www.youtube.c...v=mShPUudWE7s#!

Haha. I was expecting something like that.

Pretty funny, even though it's probably meant to make fun of us

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bustyhog wrote...

This is SSV Rugeley, sub regiment of the UK fleet reporting in for the first time.

I know this has all been said many times but I feel the need to reiterate that the end of such a compelling and immersive series has left both myself and others I know traumatised.

How could this happen? main issue with the end would have to be. It doesn't make any sense!!!!!!

crew members leaving, why is shepard forced to obey to that kids idiotic options?

This game needs to be patched as the last 10 minutes are broken. Other than that, incredible game!

SSV Rugeley, hunkered down and


HOLDING THE DAMN LINE


Welcome to the fight!
We are glad to have new people holding the line with us!

#39932
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Matt_gekko88 wrote...

laughing sherpa girl wrote...

Sengr wrote...

http://social.biowar.../index/10089946

WTF? Can anyone explain...maybe Casey Hudson don't know how to read?


yeahhh, lets see, You lose : Thane, Grunt, Mordin, Perhaps Tali, Perhaps Legion, perhaps Miranda, pehaps a whole lotta people..
I think they got a little caried away on the bittersett part. Nothing sweet about that ending, its just plain bitter..


AFAIK Legion dies, no matter what


yep.... only the way he dies is changeable
sacrificed or killd

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laughing sherpa girl wrote...

Sengr wrote...

http://social.biowar.../index/10089946

WTF? Can anyone explain...maybe Casey Hudson don't know how to read?


yeahhh, lets see, You lose : Thane, Grunt, Mordin, Perhaps Tali, Perhaps Legion, perhaps Miranda, pehaps a whole lotta people..
I think they got a little caried away on the bittersett part. Nothing sweet about that ending, its just plain bitter..


My Grunt survive... Someone know why? 

#39934
Matt_gekko88

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Elanor1 wrote...

laughing sherpa girl wrote...

Sengr wrote...

http://social.biowar.../index/10089946

WTF? Can anyone explain...maybe Casey Hudson don't know how to read?


yeahhh, lets see, You lose : Thane, Grunt, Mordin, Perhaps Tali, Perhaps Legion, perhaps Miranda, pehaps a whole lotta people..
I think they got a little caried away on the bittersett part. Nothing sweet about that ending, its just plain bitter..


My Grunt survive... Someone know why? 


yea, mine, too. he made a mistake there

#39935
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I've... Seen things you people wouldn't believe... Attack fleets on fire
off the shoulder of BSN. I've watched Space Magic glitter in the dark
near the Mass Relays. All those moments will be lost in time,
like tears in rain...

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halloween20

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Elanor1 wrote...

laughing sherpa girl wrote...

Sengr wrote...

http://social.biowar.../index/10089946

WTF? Can anyone explain...maybe Casey Hudson don't know how to read?


yeahhh, lets see, You lose : Thane, Grunt, Mordin, Perhaps Tali, Perhaps Legion, perhaps Miranda, pehaps a whole lotta people..
I think they got a little caried away on the bittersett part. Nothing sweet about that ending, its just plain bitter..


My Grunt survive... Someone know why? 


is´t based on ur desistions made in me2 (loyalty mission)

#39937
Prudii Aden

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Elanor1 wrote...

laughing sherpa girl wrote...

Sengr wrote...

http://social.biowar.../index/10089946

WTF? Can anyone explain...maybe Casey Hudson don't know how to read?


yeahhh, lets see, You lose : Thane, Grunt, Mordin, Perhaps Tali, Perhaps Legion, perhaps Miranda, pehaps a whole lotta people..
I think they got a little caried away on the bittersett part. Nothing sweet about that ending, its just plain bitter..


My Grunt survive... Someone know why? 


Was he loyal in ME2? If so, then that's probably why he survived.

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Elanor1 wrote...

laughing sherpa girl wrote...

Sengr wrote...

http://social.biowar.../index/10089946

WTF? Can anyone explain...maybe Casey Hudson don't know how to read?


yeahhh, lets see, You lose : Thane, Grunt, Mordin, Perhaps Tali, Perhaps Legion, perhaps Miranda, pehaps a whole lotta people..
I think they got a little caried away on the bittersett part. Nothing sweet about that ending, its just plain bitter..


My Grunt survive... Someone know why? 


You did his loyalty mission in mass effect 2 ;)

Edit: Since everyone else beat me to it, I LOVE TUPARI! 

Modifié par VonVerrikan, 17 mars 2012 - 02:18 .


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Holding the line for a bit before going to work.

I tell the people there what we're fighting for, and I get these faces: :blink:

Then I tell them we've brought in over 55k in donations to Child's Play and I get these: :o

HOLD THE LINE!

#39940
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Elanor1 wrote...

laughing sherpa girl wrote...

Sengr wrote...

http://social.biowar.../index/10089946

WTF? Can anyone explain...maybe Casey Hudson don't know how to read?


yeahhh, lets see, You lose : Thane, Grunt, Mordin, Perhaps Tali, Perhaps Legion, perhaps Miranda, pehaps a whole lotta people..
I think they got a little caried away on the bittersett part. Nothing sweet about that ending, its just plain bitter..


My Grunt survive... Someone know why? 


Grunt always survives I think...

#39941
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Stolen from Doofe2012's thread.

"http://blog.brentkno.../#disqus_thread

I read one recent blog post where the writer basically said "the ending was awesome because it was just like a movie" and I think she was missing the point. It is a game. Not a movie. And more specifically, its a role-playing game. The players are *part* of the game. Part of the process of building and experiencing the game, much more so than with most other forms of entertainment. Entitlement is really a right, for the gamer, because they have participated, actively, in the game itself. Again, I can't speak to the actual ending myself, because I have not
played it but in generally I'd say a Role-Playing Video Game Trilogy Ending should (try to) do the following:

1. Reward the player's choices throughout the series. The big stuff they did should be noted. They should *feel* like they had a unique impact on the world.

2. End on a positive note. This is really important for video games... life in general is full of ****ty stuff happening all the time. When I invest a hundred hours into a game I need to walk away feeling like a hero. When you waste a couple hours of a person's life with an artsy/depressing movie or short story or even a novel, it is more forgivable because the time spent is less. And presumably the consumer knew what they were going into when they started. Certain directors create certain styles of movie. Certain writers write specific types of fiction. On the other hand somebody playing an epic role-playing video-game trilogy is going to *expect* to be the hero and save the universe. That's why they are playing the game. When expectations don't match reality, disappointment is created. It might be an artistic/creative move to go with a different style of ending but I feel its the wrong choice, especially for a videogame *trilogy*. Make your middle game bleak if you want to, but end the series on a high note.

Pay attention here, Bioware. This man is everything that was right with the company. What he is saying is exactly how most of us players feel. DA:O was one of your most successful games, and the fact that its lead designer no longer works for you is a clear foreshadowing of why you will go downhill once people are done with ME3."

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VonVerrikan wrote...

Elanor1 wrote...

laughing sherpa girl wrote...

Sengr wrote...

http://social.biowar.../index/10089946

WTF? Can anyone explain...maybe Casey Hudson don't know how to read?


yeahhh, lets see, You lose : Thane, Grunt, Mordin, Perhaps Tali, Perhaps Legion, perhaps Miranda, pehaps a whole lotta people..
I think they got a little caried away on the bittersett part. Nothing sweet about that ending, its just plain bitter..


My Grunt survive... Someone know why? 


You did his loyalty mission in mass effect 2 ;)

Edit: Since everyone else beat me to it, I LOVE TUPARI! 


He did in mine too. Also, can anyone tell me what the difference is in the game, on whether you killed or just survived the thresher maw? I don't think there was even a reference.

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To help the RetakeMassEffect-movement, I recently took the quote from the Anonymous-movement and made a motivational out of it

Modifié par Ossborn76, 17 mars 2012 - 02:22 .


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Fulgrim88 wrote...

Pinkflu wrote...

Hey, line-holders. Just discovered this piece of gold from the Mass Deflect tumblr: http://www.youtube.c...v=mShPUudWE7s#!

Haha. I was expecting something like that.

Pretty funny, even though it's probably meant to make fun of us


Hahaha, yeah.
But it does make a good point, as in we should keep on loving all that we loved so very much in the Mass Effect series.
But that doesn't mean we should stop fighting.
We still deserve our better ending.
Hold the line!

#39945
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Peete wrote...

Elanor1 wrote...

laughing sherpa girl wrote...

Sengr wrote...

http://social.biowar.../index/10089946

WTF? Can anyone explain...maybe Casey Hudson don't know how to read?


yeahhh, lets see, You lose : Thane, Grunt, Mordin, Perhaps Tali, Perhaps Legion, perhaps Miranda, pehaps a whole lotta people..
I think they got a little caried away on the bittersett part. Nothing sweet about that ending, its just plain bitter..


My Grunt survive... Someone know why? 


Grunt always survives I think...



I have yet to see Grunt die... but considering that I can't can't be bothered to play it at this point, I guess I won't be finding out anytime soon >.>

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Fulgrim88 wrote...

Pinkflu wrote...

Hey, line-holders. Just discovered this piece of gold from the Mass Deflect tumblr: http://www.youtube.c...v=mShPUudWE7s#!

Haha. I was expecting something like that.

Pretty funny, even though it's probably meant to make fun of us


AHHHHHH but the ending still didn't make any sense and really 70 hours for ME 3
even if its supposed to be a joke thats just.......no

#39947
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and 1600 pages :)

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Great thread about damage control. Must read
http://social.biowar...ndex/10084349/1

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Ossborn76 wrote...

To help the RetakeMassEffect-müvement, I recently took the quote from the Anonymous-movement and made a motivational out of it


Haha, I like it!

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Matt_gekko88 wrote...

Elanor1 wrote...

laughing sherpa girl wrote...

Sengr wrote...

http://social.biowar.../index/10089946

WTF? Can anyone explain...maybe Casey Hudson don't know how to read?


yeahhh, lets see, You lose : Thane, Grunt, Mordin, Perhaps Tali, Perhaps Legion, perhaps Miranda, pehaps a whole lotta people..
I think they got a little caried away on the bittersett part. Nothing sweet about that ending, its just plain bitter..


My Grunt survive... Someone know why? 


yea, mine, too. he made a mistake there


Just change it to You Lose: Thane, Legion, Mordin, Perhaps Tali, Perhaps Grunt, perhaps Miranda, pehaps a whole lotta people.

It is possible to lose Grunt, not definite though.