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[segurissima]

MeldarthX wrote...

Computim wrote...

segurissima wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

segurissima wrote...

I know this is nothing new or what haven’t been said so far, just to share my thoughts. I have bought the Final Hours on ipad yesterday and went through it. I had the impression that BW has put a lot passion into the game, and they really wanted to give us a fantastic game, incorporating fan feedback, but the leaks and the time pressure did not help the situation. (…so many good scenes cut out) As for the game ending, I think they were sincerely convinced that it will be OK. Now they are shocked over the reactions and try to do damage control as any big company would. This will, or is already, hitting their sales numbers and the reception of any ME related products in the future. I, for sure am not interested to replay the game, or buy any new content because I’ve lost interest after such a flat ending. And they know this. I cannot imagine that they will leave us, fans, without a proper remedy to this outrage about the ending, even if they defend the current product they know it could mean to the unsuccess of the franchise and any new MR related releases.
Hold the line!

On top of that there will be at least 50k people not buying any DLC and that's not including the people who don't buy DLC anyway so out of the hardcore customers (note the use of customer instead of fan) few will be buying anything that isn't a fix to this faux pas of an ending and even then if it is payed DLC there is gonna be a whole...whole lot of pirating.


Hold the line.

Agree. I think the 50k is even underestimated. There a lot of people who does not come to the forum, and does not actively participate in this movement. For sure there are a lot of new people coming ( like me, who never posted here before this) They have very deatailed statistics from the gameplay data and I think people with our opinion about the ending can easily exceed 50% of the RPG gamers; the ones who imported a ME1 game into ME3 according to statistics. (54%) That could result in hunderds of thousands of people.

Indeed!  My facebook account has at least 15 people that agree with me who I guarantee don't have accounts here.. I've only talked to two of them because I prefer to not flood my family/friends with angry rants haha.  I limited myself to one post about the awful ending (which ended up with nearly 90 comments), and one about the Child's Play charity run.  Some of them are still upset posting on FB about it.. Things like "Why Bioware Whyyyyyyy?" and "Hey Bioware -- you forgot to give me the ending to my game.  Plz send it asap"

How poles most go - if you're dealing with 1- 1,000,000 people - for every one vote  you times it by 10; after 1 million I'm not sure.....  pretty sure it goes up like 11 to 12 for each million would have to look it up.

But for the first million sales 54% of your target audience; hates the ending......that's a big; number......only 2% actually likes it.  those numbers are hard; but its a good reflection.......

they've shipped 3.5 million copies not sure if they've sold over 2 million yet or not.....but they have over a million so looking at that its - ok checked the math and that made my eyes hurt.  Its been a long time since I've looked at problems like that......

Someone else added up just the one poll here on BNS and its like running 96% hate the ending.....that tells you something........I've been watching twitter like made and its running for every 1 like; there is roughly 10 hates the ending.......

that's 90% ave........We can't give up now.....

HOLD THE LINE

That's why we can't give up. We talk always about 50k people, but the number is in reality is very likely much higher which cannot go unnoticed for sure.

[Darth Sagan]

Hold the line!

[Luiginius]

I'd say the biggest challenge for the movie is capturing the overall feel of ME.
Put shortly I'd say mass effect is like star wars, but for adults. I don't mean it should try and hit intellectual high notes. We've all now seen how that will turn out, but just the themes of tolerance, co-operation etc should be in it in some form.
Successfully walking the mass audience/true franchise identity-line would make mad business.

[mrderp27]

i believe zoidberg's slinky is the perfect analogy for ME3

[Psychic_Squirrel]

So I finished ME3 yesterday and have decided to stop lurking on this forum due to the ending.

I have to say its the first time since playing 16 bit games in the 90's that I've felt the urge to throw my controller across the room in anger.

[Iucounou]

Computim wrote...
Anyone who's read the articles leading up to the ME3 launch about the UK gaming store "Game".  They didn't stock ME3 because they couldn't get favourable credit terms with EA.  Betcha they could now ;P

I suspect Game are thinking they got away lightly in view of the controversy. They have enough money problems as it is without having unmovable stock on their hands too

It does make me wonder how many copies of ME3 have been traded in to the likes of Game/Blockbuster et al over the last few days. More than a few, I suspect.

[Bubi7]

Iucounou wrote...

Bubi7 wrote...
Thanks for the insight. The "people dressed in red/green/blue as "the ending". " is actually a great idea (I laughed hard )

That's one of the things I find saddest about this whole affair. What was once a great game is being turned into a laughing stock. I know humour helps and I've laughed at a lot of the images on here as much as anyone - keep it coming! But it is also rather tragic that it has been reduced to this.

They even said something like "people will remember", and that's what they got. It probably will go on their nerves sometime, but that's not my fault. They are still great games, and that counts, too. At least for me

[Misterdde45000]

Welsh Inferno wrote...

Copy and pasted from the war assets thread:

mvdeane87 wrote...

Although the money number is pretty staggering, it looks like only about 2700 people have actually felt compelled to contribute. Since this is basically our version of a petition, that is basically saying we have over 40,000 pissed off people, but only 2700 took action. Come on guys, this is for a good cause, and even $1 from anyone who hasn't donated already (assuming that we do actually have a strength of 40k at least), would almost double what we have raised so far. Don't buy that soda, or that Starbucks coffee. Donate and HOLD THE LINE!

Welsh Inferno wrote...
I agree. More people should dig into there pockets and give what they can. 50,000 people gave $10 we would have HALF A MILLION DOLLERS. Give $20 and we would have a million. Come on people.

Donate: http://retakemasseff...ct-childs-play/

Gave 10$. Hold the line, support the childs.

[Welsh Inferno]

IxSITHxI wrote...

You're exactly right. I dont have too much spare cash laying around, paying for college and living costs etc, but I just donated 5 USD its not much but if a large number of people chip in it stacks up quickly.

Everyone can spare at least a few bucks, besides it goes to a very good cause.

Donate: retakemasseffect.chipin.com/retake-mass-effect-childs-play/

Happy St. Paddy's Day

Don't be a Selfish Man

Hold the Line.

Yeah, I don't expect everyone to give lotsa cash. Just what you can, money doesn't grow on trees for any of us! 

[Lord Costantino]

Any big updates?

[KaiserinKai]

Psychic_Squirrel wrote...

So I finished ME3 yesterday and have decided to stop lurking on this forum due to the ending.

I have to say its the first time since playing 16 bit games in the 90's that I've felt the urge to throw my controller across the room in anger.

Welcome aboard!

Yea, I can't even remember getting this upset about a game in my life...

[allyon]

Sevantha wrote...

Rubmifer wrote...

I know people requested this in high res:

http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1772397

My new current desktop

This is so awesome. thank you

Thank you! My new background as well <3

[bustyhog]

after seeing Jessica Merizans tweet saying to a fellow gamer "How do you know he was telling the truth?" I have but one question. Why didnt bioware give us the option of seeing if he was telling the truth. Its all well and good saying how do you know he was telling the tuth but in reality it serves no purpose, regardless if you thought this question originally you have no choice to act upon your suspiscions. I can't possibly conceive that any response from the bioware team can be valid until they finally give the community what they yearn for. A complete and satisfying ending, no matter how grim that may turn out to be. 1 Ending 95% the same slightly tweaked 16 times (to the minimum possible amount) is not 16 different endings.

I hope I will not be dissapointed and a proper ending will be released. After such great games like Baldurs gate, and baldurs gate 2, Dragon age origins, KOTOR and plansecape torment and of course Mass effect 1,2 and 99% of mass effect3 I fell in love with a company called bioware then had my heart and soul ripped out from me, all the hours spent with all of the great charachters now a complete waste of time.

I will never stop holding this line until this matter is resolved. Bioware I still have a slight bit of faith prove my faith is not misplaced.

[ARCTIC EAGLE]

well according to some, 1 vote in a poll equals 10 angry (though lazy) people. Following that logic we represent around 500,000 people. EA sold 1.85 million copies so we represent around 27% of customers. The problem is, some people don't speak English (amazing, right?) so you'd need to take into account European and Asian markets. If we can we should start a poll in other languages.

[Pyewacket]

ARCTIC EAGLE wrote...

well according to some, 1 vote in a poll equals 10 angry (though lazy) people. Following that logic we represent around 500,000 people. EA sold 1.85 million copies so we represent around 27% of customers. The problem is, some people don't speak English (amazing, right?) so you'd need to take into account European and Asian markets. If we can we should start a poll in other languages.

That's a really good idea.  Can anyone do that?

[Yusta1]

KHReborn wrote...

wicked_being wrote...

Once again for those who haven't read it and also for the people who are a bit disheartened:

http://social.biowar.../index/10084349

I believe we have gained 10,000 War assets in atghunter

Don't forget the motivotional analysis of KeldorKatarn. He adds at least 2000 war assets.

True!

[TamiBx]

KaiserinKai wrote...

Psychic_Squirrel wrote...

So I finished ME3 yesterday and have decided to stop lurking on this forum due to the ending.

I have to say its the first time since playing 16 bit games in the 90's that I've felt the urge to throw my controller across the room in anger.

Welcome aboard!

Yea, I can't even remember getting this upset about a game in my life...

I have never been so upset about a game...ever. Actually, I've never been this upset every since the ending of Harry Potter. But that was a book and I had no control over it. 

[elirian_19]

Cybermortis wrote...


The insiders view of the PR stratagy (Can someone repost the link please) seems to indicate that BW's PR department is running an accelerated damage control procedure. It appears that BW is currently stalling for time, most likely while the bosses there (and/or at EA) try to work out which would cost them more - making a new ending DLC or not making one. Based on (limited) information about sales and reaction to date, the impression I'm getting is that the odds in this respect are in our favour. 

We need to continue holding, remaining civil - ESPECIALLY towards the BW staff on these boards who should be given full credit for handling the situation in a suberb way even if they can't say anything - and don't let ourselves be sidetracked by shiney offers, meaningless statements or silence.

This. So much this.

Hold the line.

[Harbing3r]

Another way to get their attention:

imgur.com/a/sVB6l

[WarBaby2]

Welsh Inferno wrote...

https://twitter.com/...078880172519425

Harby I love you.

He does too.^^

[Psychic_Squirrel]

Sorry to be a pain everybody but this thread is huge (I suck at using the search function on these boards), I was just wondering where to get the retake me3 banners from (need a UK one).

[malra]

Darth_Acheron47 wrote...

Maybe it's just the good-will of the weekend getting to me, but I'm really starting to consider the chances that all of this could be intentional. (Not the outrage, per say, but at least the "ending" as it stands now.) The main reason for this? It seems like it would take an enormous amount of work to mess up so badly.

Fact of the matter is, BW is an amazing company. They've made some truly great games over the years. I personally couldn't get into DA:O or DA2 just because I'm not a huge fan of the fantasy genre (much preferring Sci-Fi) but I've heard mostly great things about them as well.

Mass Effect, as a whole, was brilliantly written and brought to life over the last several years. The third game was great except for the ending, and all in all they pulled things together beautifully and, I think, did a great job of sticking to the universe and the rules of their world. Sure, the sudden appearance of a giant space-gun that can kill the Reapers seemed a little convenient, but at least it was rooted somewhere in the lore and could be accepted as part of the story.

But I just can't see them messing up the ending this badly unless it was on purpose. It's like the ending of ME2 with the suicide mission - in order to get the "bad" ending where everyone dies, you have to INTENTIONALLY try for it. You have to REALLY try HARD to get that horrible a result out of what you've been doing.

Given the skill I've seen from BioWare over the years, starting when I got KOTOR in 2005, this just doesn't make sense. I can't believe they could mess up this badly this quickly right at the END of not only the game but also the trilogy.

Maybe I've just been drinking too much of the Indoctrination Theory Kool-Aid, but... I'm at least trying to be hopeful that this isn't the end of Commander Shepard. This brilliant, well-thought-out story simply cannot go out like this. That said, I'm going to stick to my (metaphorical) guns and wait this out until we get an answer, one way or another.

Reporting from Denver, holding the line.

Sadly it really doesn't take much for a company to completely derail.   Some of us may remember the shuttle exploding on take off the florida coast.  At the end of the day it was discovered that in order to maintain corporate culture, people who were issuing concerns about safety were being actively ignored and evenutally you either got in line with the company line or you got shut out.  This phenom is known as 'group think'.  It happens in corporations all the time.  Think how heavily vested these people are, spending hundreds of ours developing concepts and producing work.  Who wants to think that what you've done is not great.  While th loss of the shuttle cannot be compared to this, the phenom is still relevant for this.  One of the reasons I am hopeful that Bioware will try to address in some way this current situation.  Everyone in business knows this happens, but businesses that want to succeed try do everything they can to stop it.

Group thnk also works on the customer base end as well.  And businesses that want to succeed don't want to bcome the urban dictionary definition for epic fail.

[Lord Costantino]

Harbing3r wrote...

Another way to get their attention:

imgur.com/a/sVB6l

I for one will be ending my supscription soon if they don't answer us in one week.

[Ajna]

Psychic_Squirrel wrote...

Sorry to be a pain everybody but this thread is huge (I suck at using the search function on these boards), I was just wondering where to get the retake me3 banners from (need a UK one).

Here take mine

[Fulgrim88]

Harbing3r wrote...

Another way to get their attention:

imgur.com/a/sVB6l

Been there, done that