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Unit-Alpha wrote...

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I have a Gamestop receipt in my wallet from June 29 for a ME3 CE, paid in full. I can't believe I'm actually considering trying to get a refund.

You think the CE will still be valuable once the game is out? You think I could sell it unopened for a profit?

Not trying to be dramatic. Seriously wondering.


If this goes down as it seems to, prices will probably collapse within 2-3 weeks down to $30. After two months, there will be no market for this game.


Yeah right, people will still want it. 

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I think it's time for me to Blackout BSN. Some of these conjectures are beyond the bounds of all reason. This is hysteria at its worst.

Bioware, if you're reading this, don't reactivate the forums after maintence tomorrow. BSN needs a longer time-out.

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Jacy Pane wrote...

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Screw it - If I want to spend $90 and be left unsatisfied I'll take my girlfriend to a nice restaurant and have her tell me she's "too tired" afterwards...


Dude, that's the itis.  Get her some jewelry next time.


Seriously, jewelry is far better than dinner when push comes to shove. At least in my experience.

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Sashimi_taco wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

ratzerman wrote...

I have a Gamestop receipt in my wallet from June 29 for a ME3 CE, paid in full. I can't believe I'm actually considering trying to get a refund.

You think the CE will still be valuable once the game is out? You think I could sell it unopened for a profit?

Not trying to be dramatic. Seriously wondering.


If this goes down as it seems to, prices will probably collapse within 2-3 weeks down to $30. After two months, there will be no market for this game.


Yeah right, people will still want it. 


For the CE, maybe; for the standard edition, nope. The number of used copies hitting the market will be through the roof.

Modifié par Unit-Alpha, 01 mars 2012 - 02:14 .


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Garrus and Tali will be perfectly fine and live well if you managed to get the all the war assets and left them to lead their fleets. But Shepard will never seem them again.

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Jacy Pane wrote...

PosterAnonymous wrote...

Screw it - If I want to spend $90 and be left unsatisfied I'll take my girlfriend to a nice restaurant and have her tell me she's "too tired" afterwards...


Dude, that's the itis.  Get her some jewelry next time.


I wasn't aware that sex required trade goods to be initated. I thought you just had to be good at sex so she would actually want to have sex with you.

I know it is crazy, but I actually enjoy sex with my SO. 

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kingsims wrote...

Garrus and Tali will be perfectly fine and live well if you managed to get the all the war assets and left them to lead their fleets. But Shepard will never seem them again.

Why is that?

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If you choose not to recruit either of them in ME3, they don't get Normandy-marooned, but they still show up for the final battle. In other words, if you romanced Tali, for example, you're better off doing her Rannoch missions and then saying "You're an admiral, yay!" so you can return to Earth after destroying the Guardian and reunite since she is GOING TO BE THERE.

And the VS Survivors also can get booted to Earth, too.

In other words, anyone concerned about Tali/Garrus/Kaidan/Ashley can pretty much stop worrying, and exploit the plot to save whichever characters interest them.

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Unit-Alpha wrote...

Jacy Pane wrote...

PosterAnonymous wrote...

Screw it - If I want to spend $90 and be left unsatisfied I'll take my girlfriend to a nice restaurant and have her tell me she's "too tired" afterwards...


Dude, that's the itis.  Get her some jewelry next time.


Seriously, jewelry is far better than dinner when push comes to shove. At least in my experience.


All depends on the length of the relationship... the first couple a years dinner will do... later... well. ;-)

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yoshibb wrote...
*snip*

TL;DR: I want the Normandy to be together again as it was in the beginning and how its been throughout the story in the end. The letter expresses my reasoning behind it and just asks for a patch or DLC with this ending.


I agree! and never thought of it that way... The Normandy is Shepard.

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Sashimi_taco wrote...

Jacy Pane wrote...

PosterAnonymous wrote...

Screw it - If I want to spend $90 and be left unsatisfied I'll take my girlfriend to a nice restaurant and have her tell me she's "too tired" afterwards...


Dude, that's the itis.  Get her some jewelry next time.


I wasn't aware that sex required trade goods to be initated. I thought you just had to be good at sex so she would actually want to have sex with you.

I know it is crazy, but I actually enjoy sex with my SO. 


Lol, I cannot believe this is getting discussed. We better stop before this entire thread gets closed because of this.

Modifié par Unit-Alpha, 01 mars 2012 - 02:16 .


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kingsims wrote...

Garrus and Tali will be perfectly fine and live well if you managed to get the all the war assets and left them to lead their fleets. But Shepard will never seem them again.


If Shep lives and ends up in London? He/she most certainly will, because they're going to be right there.

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OK... Can someone PLEASE PM me these endings?

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kingsims wrote...

Garrus and Tali will be perfectly fine and live well if you managed to get the all the war assets and left them to lead their fleets. But Shepard will never seem them again.

I like Garrus and Tali in my squad, but I might actually do that.  You can save Kaidan/Ashley in a similar way, which just leaves... Liara, who will live for 900 more years and will be perfectly fine wherever they land due to her plot armor, and Vega (and who cares about him?).   And Joker, but he kind of lost my respect with the whole EDI thing.

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DaftArbiter wrote...

If you choose not to recruit either of them in ME3, they don't get Normandy-marooned, but they still show up for the final battle. In other words, if you romanced Tali, for example, you're better off doing her Rannoch missions and then saying "You're an admiral, yay!" so you can return to Earth after destroying the Guardian and reunite since she is GOING TO BE THERE.

And the VS Survivors also can get booted to Earth, too.

In other words, anyone concerned about Tali/Garrus/Kaidan/Ashley can pretty much stop worrying, and exploit the plot to save whichever characters interest them.


But anyone that cares about Liara gets royally f***ed.

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DaftArbiter wrote...

If you choose not to recruit either of them in ME3, they don't get Normandy-marooned, but they still show up for the final battle. In other words, if you romanced Tali, for example, you're better off doing her Rannoch missions and then saying "You're an admiral, yay!" so you can return to Earth after destroying the Guardian and reunite since she is GOING TO BE THERE.

And the VS Survivors also can get booted to Earth, too.

In other words, anyone concerned about Tali/Garrus/Kaidan/Ashley can pretty much stop worrying, and exploit the plot to save whichever characters interest them.


Wait...what?!

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Hyrist wrote...

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No, you're listing games without choice as refrence.

This is about making you choose the bad end. Making you personally, with your own mind, figure out your ending fate, and none of them being good.

You can't evade FFXIII-2's or RDR's endings, but you also can't really choose HOW you meet those endings either.

Here, you do. The consequence of that is much deeper. Here, you pick which dark fate holds the most hope. The superior level of impact can easily be measured by the rampaging negativity here - people don't want to choose a bad end. They would rather it be out of their hands. As much as I would like to get a 'happy-ish ending' from Bioware like anyone else. I have to give Kudos to Bioware for that.



So the only true ending at the end of a crisis is a definitive bad one where everyone has to die? It's the most "realistic" is that it?

The possibilities are endless, it's just laziness that reduced all the endings to be so similar. If you prefer the ending, it's your choice, not something that should be shoved down all of our throats. Kudos to what?


I love how people assume companies have endless time and money to funnel into the game, and anything remotely similar they have to cry 'laziness!'

But putting asside the technical limitations: You've got your endings wrong. 'everyone has to die' is not the endings available to you. Yes, the worlds get seperated when the Crucible gets used, that does not mean everyone chokes and dies. It means the Galaxy will never be the same again.

Spin that pesimisticly if you choose, but 'the possibilities are endless' can be spoken for the far off future of the ME universe as well. But every choice in the ending comes with a sacrafice.


Dude it's obivous you're satisfied with the endings, that it has been catered for your demographic, but not for the rest of us. Instead you assume we're all young, wanting happy endings is wrong.

And instead of over-analysising everything I say, explain this, If I save Earth, stranded, if I don't save Earth stranded. What is the point of living if all technology is now dead, civilization dead, everything gone. It's the dark ages, food sparce, water sparce, what is there for the living?

In regards to sacrifice, ME2 gave you the option to not sacrifice anyone, but you could if you made a mistake or wanted to. It's optional. Mind you because it's a game.

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crimzontearz wrote...


Dilos01 wrote...Man...this is nuts!  I hate to be in Bioware's shoes right now.  Honest to god, if it weren't for that "Space Edition" sweepstakes, then nobody would be talking about this.  Instead the whole place is turning into an effing powder keg!! Whoever came with that idea...well, it wasn't such a good idea now, was it?? 


maybe the same guy who came up with "press a button and something awesome happens"


I don't mind the awesome button that much than what this sweepstakes has done.  Ugh...did they honestly believe that people were going to keep quiet about what they saw in the game?!?  How could someone not see this coming?!?

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Unit-Alpha wrote...

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I just wanted to finish me3 with tali and garrus like I did me1 & 2. Instead they get to slowly starve to death. Thanks. God effing damnit.


Wrong. If you choose not to recruit either of them in ME3, they don't get Normandy-marooned, but they still show up for the final battle. In other words, if you romanced Tali, for example, you're better off doing her Rannoch missions and then saying "You're an admiral, yay!" so you can return to Earth after destroying the Guardian and reunite since she is GOING TO BE THERE.


Any such possibility for Liara?

I guess not. :crying:


Nope, she either dies with you there during the end part, or end up stranded on a planet, never to see Shepard again. Good stuff for us Liara fans.


It's not much better for us Team Dextro fans. . .  Dammit, Bioware!  You went the lazy route and now you're going to try to characterize it as "edgy".

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How is it that they fan service us with joker/edi romance, yet shaft us separating us from our LI?

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All I will say right now if Bioware believes the. "It's the Journey, not the destination." Fine by me, however I have my own favorite saying as well, "Do The End, Justifies The Means?" a quote from Martin Luther King.

Modifié par f1ndmenow, 01 mars 2012 - 02:19 .


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Cyricsservant101 wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

WvStolzing wrote...

DaftArbiter wrote...

dheer wrote...

I just wanted to finish me3 with tali and garrus like I did me1 & 2. Instead they get to slowly starve to death. Thanks. God effing damnit.


Wrong. If you choose not to recruit either of them in ME3, they don't get Normandy-marooned, but they still show up for the final battle. In other words, if you romanced Tali, for example, you're better off doing her Rannoch missions and then saying "You're an admiral, yay!" so you can return to Earth after destroying the Guardian and reunite since she is GOING TO BE THERE.


Any such possibility for Liara?

I guess not. :crying:


Nope, she either dies with you there during the end part, or end up stranded on a planet, never to see Shepard again. Good stuff for us Liara fans.


It's not much better for us Team Dextro fans. . .  Dammit, Bioware!  You went the lazy route and now you're going to try to characterize it as "edgy".


It'd be nice having your LI not marooned to some random planet, never to be heard from again.

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WarBaby2 wrote...

From BWs point of view (and I actually read that statement somewhere) there is no BAD ending... the galaxy is saved in all of them.


Like I just mentioned in another thread...

The biggest space battle in the history of ever just got waged in low-Earth orbit. The entire Reaper race exploded. The Citadel exploded. Most of the Council races' fleets exploded. That's a buttload of eezo that just got deposited in Earth's environment.

Remember what happens in 90% of in-utero eezo exposures?

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f1ndmenow wrote...

All I will say right now if Bioware believes the. "It's the journey not the destination." Fine by me, however I have my own favorite saying as well, "Do The End, Justifies The Means?" a quote from Martin Luther King.


The end sure doesn't justify $60+.

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Dilos01 wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...Dilos01 wrote...Man...this is nuts!  I hate to be in Bioware's shoes right now.  Honest to god, if it weren't for that "Space Edition" sweepstakes, then nobody would be talking about this.  Instead the whole place is turning into an effing powder keg!! Whoever came with that idea...well, it wasn't such a good idea now, was it?? maybe the same guy who came up with "press a button and something awesome happens"

I don't mind the awesome button that much than what this sweepstakes has done.  Ugh...did they honestly believe that people were going to keep quiet about what they saw in the game?!?  How could someone not see this coming?!?

how could the not see DA2's issues? How couldn't SK see the shortcomings in Too Human?