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[Gmandam]

Hello everyone I'm one of those quiet so called lurkers. After finishing mass effect 3 I wondered what happened to the ending and why none of my choices weren't represented in the last mission (why didn't I see the geth or the quarians or the rachni fighting and why only the four major races were shown fighting down on earth) and so I went to the internet to see if I had done something wrong. If only that were true.

After reading the posts here and looking at numerous youtube videos I realised it wasn't me who had done something wrong but the ending that was so out of character. I wish I could add more to the disscution but what I would have said has already been noted by other people far more eloquently than I could ever put across.

So let me just say this I hope they release an alternate ending because the trust they gained with Mass Effect 1 and Mass Effect 2 along with Dragon age origins will be gone along with my money.

[lijygr]

Sent my e-mail to Bioware today at 11 am MSK.

Here it goes:

Dear BioWare!

This letter is sent to you in support of the #RetakeMassEffect movement.

I'm your loyal customer and a fan of Mass Effect trilogy for about 5 years, and now I'm asking you to change the ME3 endings.

I will not lecture you about the plot holes and that player choices does not matter – I guess you're already sick of the deluge of polls, forums postings, media articles which cover all the issues with the ME3 endings. I don't know what was the reason for so bad written endings – lack of resources, release date pressure, or you did this on purpose. It doesn’t matter. What matter is this: we were promised the endings which are determined by all our actions in Mass Effect trilogy universe, but instead we feel deceived.

I want to tell you only one thing: you should consider this movement not at the threat, but as the opportunity to regain the trust you've lost due to the last 10 minutes of ME3 story, as well as opportunity to make the ME3 even more profitable for BioWare and EA (the happy customer will definitely buy new DLCs, the angry won't).

And it's your choice now: either you will be remembered as “those guys who mastered the greatest sci-fi saga in history, but blew it totally at the end”, or as “those who listen to their customers and fans and who can admit and fix their mistakes”. These are two options, which is much better than the single Red-Green-Blue Explosion option you left for us in ME3.

Hope you select the right option – for the good of you and your loyal fans.

Sincerely,
your fan and the proud member of #RetakeMassEffect movement,
...

[PsylenceRD]

ziyon conqueror wrote...

Conspicuous Cake wrote...

ziyon conqueror wrote...

Ok, how polite should i be in my e-mail to bioware?

As polite as you can be.
No bashing at all.
We have to be reasonable.

Should I put in my name or username at the bottom?

If the e-mail you're using is attached to your account, just use your real name. They can look up your user name if they want off of the e-mail address. If you want to make sure that they know, no reason you can't put both.

[Neezoy]

TSC_1 wrote...

So I just posted my thoughts over in the official suggestions thread. Take a look.

Very good post. I really hope BioWare reads that.

[Fulgrim88]

TSC_1 wrote...

So I just posted my thoughts over in the official suggestions thread. Take a look.

Actually made the effort to read through all of this, and I think you did a very good job.

You eloquently convey the reasons why the ending is bad, by simultaneously hinting your love for the franchise and your appreciation for the writing in general.

The one thing that I might add is more feedback regarding how the end should  be. We can't give them any wrong ideas there.
I too, would be willing to - grudgingly - pay for ending dlc, under the condition that we would get something that actually measures up to the series as a whole. In all your talk about promises (some of which I think weren't actually made) you forgot one of the most important ones regarding this issue: "16 different endings" - when in fact we got 1.
That's cheap, that's lazy, that's borderline insulting.

All the major decisions in all the games, the surviving crewmembers and allies, and the EMS of ME3 should matter. I want to see that Volus bombing run. I want to see those living Elcor Tanks I've saved. I want to see the Thanix cannons that many fleets equipped due to the Tech I've salvaged do some actual damage. There's so much that could happen based on what we did.

Modifié par Fulgrim88, 17 mars 2012 - 08:06 .

[bustyhog]

Bioware it comes down to one thing......get busy living, or get busy dying. (as a company of course).

[malra]

this simple browncoat is being reassigned.....saying "From here to the eyes and the ears of the 'Verse" may everyone know why we hold the line....

back in a little over 24

[Bruinbear]

Alright, my email has been sent!

I felt that I needed to add my thoughts to this movement.  I have seen my friends' emails giving extremely detailed descriptions of what when wrong in our eyes.  I will simply add that real life is bleak enough right now.  All you have to turn on the news or stop by the unemployment offices to see this.  I don't play games to add more of this feeling in my life.  I understand the idea of a hero's sacrifice completely.  But at least make the sacrifices (plural because there were many Shepards) mean something and give us some meaningful closure after hundreds of hours of time and emotional investments.

I will also note that I have been playing video games since the Atari 2600.  I have never seen a gaming community as united in purpose as I see them now.  The simple fact that a discussion thread on your server can go over 1600 pages long while staying on topic, and staying on an overall positive note is strong evidence of this.  I truly feel that this momentum is not something that will go away soon without a definitive and clear statement of your plans.

Your company has done amazing things in the past.  I hope you will continue to create amazing things in the future.  I, and many others, want to be a part of that.  Please, help restore our faith.  Please allow us to go to others and tell them that the ME series finished as strongly as it started.  Help us be some of the best advertising you could get.  Please, let our movement say, "Bioware made things right."

Sincerely and still holding the line,
**

Sent from a mobile device. Please forgive spelling/grammar.

[LittleDeadGirl]

Nice e-mail lijygr! I want them to see most of us in the movement don't hate Bioware or want to destroy it or any such nonsense. We love the company, We love the people that work there but a mistake was made, for whatever reason, and it needs to be adressed and/or fixed. At the very least I want some ownership to the fact the ending was rushed and lazy (apart from making no logical sense and going philosophically against the whole series)

[chujwamdotego]

lijygr wrote...

Sent my e-mail to Bioware today at 11 am MSK.

Here it goes:

Dear BioWare!

This letter is sent to you in support of the #RetakeMassEffect movement.

I'm your loyal customer and a fan of Mass Effect trilogy for about 5 years, and now I'm asking you to change the ME3 endings.

I will not lecture you about the plot holes and that player choices does not matter – I guess you're already sick of the deluge of polls, forums postings, media articles which cover all the issues with the ME3 endings. I don't know what was the reason for so bad written endings – lack of resources, release date pressure, or you did this on purpose. It doesn’t matter. What matter is this: we were promised the endings which are determined by all our actions in Mass Effect trilogy universe, but instead we feel deceived.

I want to tell you only one thing: you should consider this movement not at the threat, but as the opportunity to regain the trust you've lost due to the last 10 minutes of ME3 story, as well as opportunity to make the ME3 even more profitable for BioWare and EA (the happy customer will definitely buy new DLCs, the angry won't).

And it's your choice now: either you will be remembered as “those guys who mastered the greatest sci-fi saga in history, but blew it totally at the end”, or as “those who listen to their customers and fans and who can admit and fix their mistakes”. These are two options, which is much better than the single Red-Green-Blue Explosion option you left for us in ME3.

Hope you select the right option – for the good of you and your loyal fans.

Sincerely,
your fan and the proud member of #RetakeMassEffect movement,
...

I like this one Hope more of those are sent and Bioware offers something (at least explanation or timetable)

[Tomthechosen1]

Okay I'm back, any noteworthy news?

[TheBull]

lijygr wrote...

Sent my e-mail to Bioware today at 11 am MSK.

Here it goes:

Dear BioWare!

This letter is sent to you in support of the #RetakeMassEffect movement.

I'm your loyal customer and a fan of Mass Effect trilogy for about 5 years, and now I'm asking you to change the ME3 endings.

I will not lecture you about the plot holes and that player choices does not matter – I guess you're already sick of the deluge of polls, forums postings, media articles which cover all the issues with the ME3 endings. I don't know what was the reason for so bad written endings – lack of resources, release date pressure, or you did this on purpose. It doesn’t matter. What matter is this: we were promised the endings which are determined by all our actions in Mass Effect trilogy universe, but instead we feel deceived.

I want to tell you only one thing: you should consider this movement not at the threat, but as the opportunity to regain the trust you've lost due to the last 10 minutes of ME3 story, as well as opportunity to make the ME3 even more profitable for BioWare and EA (the happy customer will definitely buy new DLCs, the angry won't).

And it's your choice now: either you will be remembered as “those guys who mastered the greatest sci-fi saga in history, but blew it totally at the end”, or as “those who listen to their customers and fans and who can admit and fix their mistakes”. These are two options, which is much better than the single Red-Green-Blue Explosion option you left for us in ME3.

Hope you select the right option – for the good of you and your loyal fans.

Sincerely,
your fan and the proud member of #RetakeMassEffect movement,
...

It is great check for typeOs and then send it

[Stygian1]

Hold the line

[Hydralysk]

lijygr wrote...

Sent my e-mail to Bioware today at 11 am MSK.

Here it goes:

Dear BioWare!

This letter is sent to you in support of the #RetakeMassEffect movement.

I'm your loyal customer and a fan of Mass Effect trilogy for about 5 years, and now I'm asking you to change the ME3 endings.

I will not lecture you about the plot holes and that player choices does not matter – I guess you're already sick of the deluge of polls, forums postings, media articles which cover all the issues with the ME3 endings. I don't know what was the reason for so bad written endings – lack of resources, release date pressure, or you did this on purpose. It doesn’t matter. What matter is this: we were promised the endings which are determined by all our actions in Mass Effect trilogy universe, but instead we feel deceived.

I want to tell you only one thing: you should consider this movement not at the threat, but as the opportunity to regain the trust you've lost due to the last 10 minutes of ME3 story, as well as opportunity to make the ME3 even more profitable for BioWare and EA (the happy customer will definitely buy new DLCs, the angry won't).

And it's your choice now: either you will be remembered as “those guys who mastered the greatest sci-fi saga in history, but blew it totally at the end”, or as “those who listen to their customers and fans and who can admit and fix their mistakes”. These are two options, which is much better than the single Red-Green-Blue Explosion option you left for us in ME3.

Hope you select the right option – for the good of you and your loyal fans.

Sincerely,
your fan and the proud member of #RetakeMassEffect movement,
...

I'd tone it down a bit, myself. In the last paragraph paragraph it sounds like you're are issuing them an ultimatum to me. Best to keep it as calm as possible.

[PsylenceRD]

Gmandam wrote...

Hello everyone I'm one of those quiet so called lurkers. After finishing mass effect 3 I wondered what happened to the ending and why none of my choices weren't represented in the last mission (why didn't I see the geth or the quarians or the rachni fighting and why only the four major races were shown fighting down on earth) and so I went to the internet to see if I had done something wrong. If only that were true.

After reading the posts here and looking at numerous youtube videos I realised it wasn't me who had done something wrong but the ending that was so out of character. I wish I could add more to the disscution but what I would have said has already been noted by other people far more eloquently than I could ever put across.

So let me just say this I hope they release an alternate ending because the trust they gained with Mass Effect 1 and Mass Effect 2 along with Dragon age origins will be gone along with my money.

Welcome to the movement. Remember to stay polite, keep bashing to a minimum. We're writing letters to BioWare (E-mail and snail-mail) today. Also, we have our fundraiser. There is also a Facebook page, and a survey... I forget where the survey is.

There is a post from a previous PR guy analyzing what BioWare is saying: here.
This is the post from BioWare wanting our input on the game as a whole(good and bad).
There is news spread all over of varying degrees. Take heart in the fact we're making headway. Hold the line.

Modifié par PsylenceRD, 17 mars 2012 - 08:09 .

[laughing sherpa girl]

Alamandorious wrote...

laughing sherpa girl wrote...

More mainstream support for us..
http://www.nydailyne...ksEnabled=false

That's not supportive...it's saying that Bioware should stick to its guns and not change the ending.

yeahhh, i jumped too soon..  I also deleted the link in that post. Sorry about that..

[JamesYHT]

guys, any news??

[Conspicuous Cake]

laughing sherpa girl wrote...

More mainstream support for us..
::deleted::
Meh, scratch that.. just another  OOOO its art  and cant be changed geek..  When are these people gonna realize this is a product, we have these resoncibilities to insist that a company delivers what is advertised??

There goes people thinking the only reason we are mad is because we didn't get sunshine, lollipops and rainbows for an ending.

Aw, come on, that's not it!
We are mad because the end strips Mass Effect of everything that makes it good: a chance to fight against that which is presented to us, and acknowledgment of the choices we made along the way.
Heck, we were promised our choices would matter.

And it doens't end there.
The endings really don't make sense. Not to me, anyway.

[SilverOnemi]

i was reading this thread a while ago and if you feel like spamming EAs or BIOWAREs email account perhaps we should set up a spam account an a constructive critique account.

that way the constructive critics won't get lost in spam.

Modifié par SilverOnemi, 17 mars 2012 - 08:10 .

[Tyranniac]

 You know, I'm starting to dread that if they do fix the endings, they'll just take care of the plot holes, and nothing else. I mean... yeah, it'd be better than what we have now, but not nearly enough...  

There needs to be an ending worth fighting for...

Modifié par Tyranniac, 17 mars 2012 - 08:14 .

[bustyhog]

Crom laughs at the ME3 ending

[Alamandorious]

Nathos wrote...






Let's send tons of e-mails with this image. :happy:

No.  That is the wrong thing to do.  That just validates our supposed immaturity in the eyes of everyone keeping their attention on this.

[Misterdde45000]

Neezoy wrote...

TSC_1 wrote...

So I just posted my thoughts over in the official suggestions thread. Take a look.

Very good post. I really hope BioWare reads that.

agreed.

[Computim]

Still in line at the car wash lol. Battery dying. Can someone pull up CNNs transcripts on their site? I dunno how long it takes to get them up there. Just looking for the ME3 piece this afternoon around 1520EDT. Hold the line. Will keep broadcasting as long as battery holds. Cmdr Computim BSN Batallion, Canada fleet.....the maple leaf forever!

[Pabloskie]

By the way what is Bioware's contact information?