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LittleDeadGirl

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Xyalon wrote...

Signing in. Any news so to speak of?



CNN broke the news that we can now play fem shepard in mass effect 3! Are you as excited as I am?

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Katsumi Liqueur wrote...

Hey, how about boycoting MP for a time?


That! ^
And everything EA/Bioware, really.

#40928
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Xyalon wrote...

Signing in. Any news so to speak of?


I'd like to point you to my above post.

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zephyrus92 wrote...

Hey everyone! We've hit 50 thousand in the poll!

http://social.biowar...6&poll_id=28989


To be honest not that surprising, there will be a lot more coming, more during this weekend and Monday we will be even stronger^_^

Modifié par TheBull, 17 mars 2012 - 09:02 .


#40930
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Happy St. Patrick's Day! 

In celebration of the day and our cause, I felt it appropriate to post the lyrics to Ireland's National Anthem. If you don't know the music, just look up A Solderi's Song on Youtube.

Hold the Line! It took the Irish 800 years to win back their land, it hopefully will only take us a month or two to take back Mass Effect.

We'll sing a song, a soldier's song,

With cheering rousing chorus,

As round our blazing fires we throng,

The starry heavens o'er us;

Impatient for the coming fight,

And as we wait the morning's light,

Here in the silence of the night,

We'll chant a soldier's song.



Chorus:

Soldiers are we

whose lives are pledged to Ireland;

Some have come

from a land beyond the wave.

Sworn to be free,

No more our ancient sire land

Shall shelter the despot or the slave.

Tonight we man the gap of danger

In Erin's cause, come woe or weal

"Mid cannons" roar and rifles peal,

We'll chant a soldier's song.



In valley green, on towering crag,

Our fathers fought before us,

And conquered 'neath the same old flag

That's proudly floating o'er us.

We're children of a fighting race,

That never yet has known disgrace,

And as we march, the foe to face,

We'll chant a soldier's song.



Chorus

#40931
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RussianOrc wrote...

Katsumi Liqueur wrote...

Hey, how about boycoting MP for a time?

i'm already boycotting since i saw the ending, but i don't think we have enough strenght to make a diference on this matter.


MP is the only thing keeping me from reaching the "ending". I'm not sure if I can hold out.

#40932
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After reading the new post in the news section, it seems you lot are stuck with the ending.

#40933
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BuddhaGeek wrote...

 Just got back from the post office and a trip to the grocery store to get Popsicles.  Popsicles make everything in life seem cheerful<3!

Just wanted to repost my letter to Bioware:

Bioware,
As you may know, there is a large movement underfoot about the handling (or rather, mishandling) of Mass Effect 3 and it's ending. Gamers, infamous for fighting amongst eachother have come together at last to protest.  They have stood together, forming petitions, raising over $50,000 for charity, and have (with the exception of a few), responded to their outrage in a calm, positive manner only to be dismissed by you and EA, insulted by your staff, and led around with misdirection and faint promises.

I played your games since Baldur's Gate. I bought your DLC packs, your collector's editions. I defended Dragon Age 2 despite all the criticism.  And I loved Mass Effect to the point where it was, by far, my favorite work of fiction in ANY MEDIUM.  And now, I feel betrayed.  I feel as if the people I put so much faith in, turned their backs on me.  I feel as if my trust in you was misplaced.  And I am not alone.

It is easy to dismiss gamers.  We do not always have the greatest track record with "open and calm" discussion.  We do not always have grounds for our discourse.  It is easy to overlook us based off of the rash and offensive actions of a handful of people.  But, please, I implore you, do not dismiss this.  This movement could mean a new age for gamers and game companies. It shows that we can be civil, that we can be heard, and that our anger can be channeled into something unifying and good.

For me, this isn't just about the endings anymore. We don't necessarily want the ending to be fluffy or in any way saccharine. A large complaint is simply that it not only provides no closure, but that in the context of everything we have learned about the game's universe, its characters, is nonsensical.    In 2009, in response to widespread dissatisfaction with the final moments of Fallout 3, Bethesda Softworks released a DLC known as "Broken Steel", which presented itself as a sort of extended epilogue, allowing players to gain some closure.  It ended up being one of the more popular DLCs of the entire game and gave the players not only a sense of finality, but a sense of relief that their gaming companies had not abandoned them and that they were being listened to.

We are asking that you give us the same measure of hope.

What has been for the last half-decade was an intriguing, emotional story that was shaped based off of our choices. It is one of the main selling points of the entire franchise: "All your actions have consequences". We were even told that the endings would reflect that, even going so far to say that there would be as many as SIXTEEN endings, all vastly different from the others and that it would not be "Choice A, B, and C". What we received was exactly that. All of our actions that we had devoted 120+ hours to ultimately meant nothing and ended with more questions than answers and more plotholes made in the final ten minutes than the entire series combined. 

The gamers who dislike the endings are not making their voices heard without reason. They (myself included) feel betrayed because we have invested our time and our money into something only to have our faith shattered and our dismay spat on. 

The idea of "entitlement" is a sentiment that seems to be specifically oriented around the gamer community. It's an idea that says that we are complaining about something we have no rights to, that we have no personal stake in the outcome of games we love and have devoted our time to purely because we were not part of its development. But, we are. It's a symbiotic relationship, one where they develop, we play, we love, and we invest our money and our time so that they may continue to develop and we can continue to play. To have Bioware take a "It's X, love it or get out" is a betrayal and an insult and one that is being countered. 

So I ask you. No, I beg of you, please do not brush us off. Please do not dismiss our claims as "entitlement" and "nerdrage".  Have you heard of the idea of "Corporate Personhood"? If it is to be believed and EA/Bioware is a person with rights, behaviours, and actions, then as a person, is it not then logical that you should listen to and respect those who have supported you?

Holding the line,
ZF


Well sir, well said.
*applause*

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Oh here's another question...  ( Please forgive me if it's already been answered, )


How did Liara get back on the Normandy and bugger off with Joker...

... When, as she and Ash were helping me guard the rockets as EDI hacked them, she should have been next to me as I was legging it toward the teleport beam?

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Fulgrim88 wrote...

Just reposting this for your enjoyment ;)

My favorite backhanded slap to weak plot devices on the Citadel



Brilliant! :D

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ArmyKnifeX

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Conspicuous Cake wrote...

Katsumi Liqueur wrote...

Hey, how about boycoting MP for a time?


That! ^
And everything EA/Bioware, really.


They'll see if you stop playing, so do it. Help the cause. No one individual will make a difference. But individuals acting together can make a huge impact. That's what we've been doing. I'm so proud to be a part of this movement. A small part of a greater whole.

#40937
TamiBx

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 Just wrote my email to Bioware. Oh, I feel so much better now. 

Ok, time to go do homework...

I'll be back later~! Keep holding the line! :)

#40938
hector7rau

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So what's this CNN fuzz i've been reading about? (Fox News also?)

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I'm just now realizing how I feel double burned for first taking the moral low ground and buying into ME3 AND the ridiculous day 1 DLC despite all my gaming ethics telling me not to, and then receiving a punch to the gut as a reward for my 32 hours of galactic heroism.

If I hadn't enjoyed the vast majority of the game as much as I did, I'd probably be pretty damn furious. Remember when it was okay to be a Bioware fan? I miss those days.

#40940
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Neezoy wrote...

Fulgrim88 wrote...

Just reposting this for your enjoyment ;)

My favorite backhanded slap to weak plot devices on the Citadel



Brilliant! :D


Absoutely! So great. :wizard:

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Iucounou wrote...

blackeyes677 wrote...
DAO had a great ending; it had closure.  However, I do not know if it would fit in terms of the tiology though.  I feel like there needs to be a lot more varierty in the type of endings reflecting your choices thoughout the series.  When I was told 16 ending, I expected everything ranging from herioric sacrifice to happily ever after to utter defeat.  And everything in between.


This is what we all expected and they did nothing but fuel those expectations.


Me too, +1 on this.

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Orkboy wrote...



Oh here's another question...  ( Please forgive me if it's already been answered, )


How did Liara get back on the Normandy and bugger off with Joker...

... When, as she and Ash were helping me guard the rockets as EDI hacked them, she should have been next to me as I was legging it toward the teleport beam?


There is no other explanation than space magic. :wizard:
....I mean except for lazy storytelling perhaps. I just remember why I was so angry about an otherwise awesome game ...

#40943
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hector7rau wrote...

So what's this CNN fuzz i've been reading about? (Fox News also?)


Apparently they mentioned the Retake Mass Effect movement but no one can find a link yet.

#40944
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LittleDeadGirl wrote...

Xyalon wrote...

Signing in. Any news so to speak of?



CNN broke the news that we can now play fem shepard in mass effect 3! Are you as excited as I am?


AMG RLY?

NO WAI!

Come back Bioware, all is forgiven....


....wait....

#40945
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Fulgrim88 wrote...

Just reposting this for your enjoyment ;)

My favorite backhanded slap to weak plot devices on the Citadel


This is amazing, can't stop laughing :D

#40946
LittleDeadGirl

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Xyalon wrote...

AMG RLY?

NO WAI!

Come back Bioware, all is forgiven....

....wait....



... no no ... don't question you ungrateful creature! You asked for fem shepard and you got it! Now begone!

#40947
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Xyalon wrote...

LittleDeadGirl wrote...

Xyalon wrote...

Signing in. Any news so to speak of?



CNN broke the news that we can now play fem shepard in mass effect 3! Are you as excited as I am?


AMG RLY?

NO WAI!

Come back Bioware, all is forgiven....


....wait....


Haha.. their CNN Domestic TV 1500EDT hour also had a 2 minute segment on how "Bioware may be possibly rewriting the ending" during their tech correspondent piece.  They mentioned BSN and how there is a poll with a huge number of people thinking the ending needed rewriting.  No mention of Child's play.  Waiting on the transcripts transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/2012.03.17.html to show up there.

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Katsumi Liqueur

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RussianOrc wrote...

Katsumi Liqueur wrote...

Hey, how about boycoting MP for a time?

i'm already boycotting since i've saw the ending, but i don't think we have enough strenght to make a diference on this matter.


We do. Dont have this mentality, please.

If we, the Retake Mass Effect, stop using MP and SP they will notice. But if ALL of us did it together.

#40949
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Benth08x wrote...

Fulgrim88 wrote...

Just reposting this for your enjoyment ;)

My favorite backhanded slap to weak plot devices on the Citadel


This is amazing, can't stop laughing :D


That's first rate satire...
Make sure BW sees this!

#40950
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Pepitobenito wrote...

I'm just now realizing how I feel double burned for first taking the moral low ground and buying into ME3 AND the ridiculous day 1 DLC despite all my gaming ethics telling me not to, and then receiving a punch to the gut as a reward for my 32 hours of galactic heroism.

If I hadn't enjoyed the vast majority of the game as much as I did, I'd probably be pretty damn furious. Remember when it was okay to be a Bioware fan? I miss those days.

Why? Thing is, people are disapointed, some are angry, and some just sad. If we weren't bioware fans(especially ME fans), we wouldn't be here