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[GDK]

Hell, I may just make Garrus stay on Earth because I want SOMEONE for Shepard to stay with. And I'm a Male Shep with a Liara LI. AND Garrus is my favorite male character and squadmate. I just want Shepard to feel like he's not alone for the rest of his life. Maybe they'll 180 with DLC or a patch, or a hidden ending after we all feel like we get to die/live alone. Seems familiar actually... anyone read the last 2 chapters of Negima?...

Well, whatever. Either way, Garrus and I will be able to have some space-beer in the ruins of London. Rock on.

[SpiderFan1217]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

SpiderFan1217 wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

DaftArbiter wrote...

If you choose not to recruit either of them in ME3, they don't get Normandy-marooned, but they still show up for the final battle. In other words, if you romanced Tali, for example, you're better off doing her Rannoch missions and then saying "You're an admiral, yay!" so you can return to Earth after destroying the Guardian and reunite since she is GOING TO BE THERE.

And the VS Survivors also can get booted to Earth, too.

In other words, anyone concerned about Tali/Garrus/Kaidan/Ashley can pretty much stop worrying, and exploit the plot to save whichever characters interest them.

But anyone that cares about Liara gets royally f***ed.

  Blue does't make it? 

Dead or stranded on the remote planet with no way to get back.

The spoilers I read never said this? How she go down?

[Bebbe777]

Hmm, I have no idea how to play this game now. Will probably play with my non-mains which I never do so I can metagame this ****

[Elegana]

Prometheus75 wrote...

I bet Bioware/EA never do another space edition launch again. For what little they made from it as an advertising gimmick, they probably lost double in pre-order cancellations.

1) One copy ended up on a cliff.
2) One copy ended up in a tree in an anrgy neighbor's yard.
3) One balloon ended up in a 150ft tree.
4) Someone shat on one of the copies.
5) Not sure if confirmed, but someone stole the Berlin balloon ones. 

...Yeah, I'd say that wasn't the brightest idea. At least it didn't end up in the ocean.

[Kasen]

This about the Mass Relays exploding is really confusing me right now. In Arrival when the Alpha Relay explodes, it takes out the entire star system with it... is that no longer the case? Do the Relays explode in every ending or just the "bad" ones?

[Cyricsservant101]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

ratzerman wrote...

It's hilarious that kicking an LI off the squad in order to establish a headcanon reunion is now considered "winning" on BSN.

It's an indicator of how far ME has fallen.

XD

Well, since I no longer think the game's worth $60, maybe while I'm waiting "decent ending DLC" will get released, making it a non-issue.

[Capeo]

TheCreeper wrote...

This thread just goes to show me that most of BSN has no taste because the endings sound freaking awesome to me, but of course I liked DA2 (even though it was about as rushed as KOTOR2) So what do I know. I'll almost certainly enjoy it so frankly what do I care what you people think.

And do you, frankly, believe anyone cares what you think? 

[kingsims]

Don't worry that is only one of the "Bad endings" so you didn't spoil yourself completely

[mariatea]

Capeo wrote...

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

WarBaby2 wrote...

Jacy Pane wrote...

On a more serious note. There's a reason why I saved Garrus in ME2, damnit. My Shepard wants them to be together in the end, holding one another right before they explode or something.

Yea, well, your vision did not correspond wih what BW had in mind for Shepard and crew... and I think that is the biggest problem most people here have... it never was OUR story afterall, it was BWs, period.

I don't think people are saying it isn't Bioware's story.  I think people are saying they think Bioware's story sucks.

Brilliantly said.

As an aside, BW has said this is our story in PR crap in the past.

They also said that our decisions matter.

... Oh, wait 

[Black_Vanguard]

TheCreeper wrote...

This thread just goes to show me that most of BSN has no taste because the endings sound freaking awesome to me, but of course I liked DA2 (even though it was about as rushed as KOTOR2) So what do I know. I'll almost certainly enjoy it so frankly what do I care what you people think.

Your in the minority with me and a few others. As I see it they don't really bother me too much. I'm really in a wait and see approach till I can either see more video(so far we see some of this stuff is not just made up) or until 3/6 rolls around and everyone gets to play it for themselves.

[Capeo]

kingsims wrote...

Sad ending..... joker nooooooooo...

Aawwwww, man.  That's rough.

[DifferentD17]

Sorry to say it guys, but it looks like we all got friendzoned for ME4 or a spinoff.

[Sashimi_taco]

Kasen13 wrote...

This about the Mass Relays exploding is really confusing me right now. In Arrival when the Alpha Relay explodes, it takes out the entire star system with it... is that no longer the case? Do the Relays explode in every ending or just the "bad" ones?

Yeah that doesn't make sense to me either. If the relays kill the reapers, it kills about almost all the viable star systems that people can live on too. I'm really confused. 

[Unit-Alpha]

SpiderFan1217 wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

SpiderFan1217 wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

DaftArbiter wrote...

If you choose not to recruit either of them in ME3, they don't get Normandy-marooned, but they still show up for the final battle. In other words, if you romanced Tali, for example, you're better off doing her Rannoch missions and then saying "You're an admiral, yay!" so you can return to Earth after destroying the Guardian and reunite since she is GOING TO BE THERE.

And the VS Survivors also can get booted to Earth, too.

In other words, anyone concerned about Tali/Garrus/Kaidan/Ashley can pretty much stop worrying, and exploit the plot to save whichever characters interest them.

But anyone that cares about Liara gets royally f***ed.

  Blue does't make it? 

Dead or stranded on the remote planet with no way to get back.

The spoilers I read never said this? How she go down?

She can either die in the final mission or she gets dumped on the empty planet with Joker and a few of the crew.

[WarBaby2]

mariatea wrote...

They also said that our decisions matter.

... Oh, wait 

It's marketing... bears can talk in commercials too.^^

[humes spork]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Haha, I'm pretty sure we would be not recruiting her for different reasons.

The most subtle my Shepards get is the one I imagined who didn't YEEHAW like some demented futuristic Major Kong at the end of Dr. Strangelove when offing a few hundred thousand Batarians as the unexpected bonus prize to temporarily stopping the Reaper invasion.

Tact and fundamental human decency aren't exactly high on their list of priorities.

[KainrycKarr]

kingsims wrote...

Don't worry that is only one of the "Bad endings" so you didn't spoil yourself completely

Should I tell this person, or should I just let them have their hope?

[cerberus1701]

Cyricsservant101 wrote...

Capeo wrote...

cerberus1701 wrote...

Capeo wrote...

cerberus1701 wrote...

154 pages of, "OMFG, the game didn't gimmie an ending where it rains happy and everyone gets a free puppy."

Can we hit 200?

Gee, you're like the five millionth person to say that same old crap.  Find someone on here who is asking for rainbows and puppies.  You won't and that's why you have no point.  BW promised choice and didn't deliver on it.  You're fine with that?  Good.  That othere people aren't isn't your problem..

Sung to the tune of "Jingle Bells":

(Me ,me, me, me, me, me. Me, me, me, me, me.)

Bioware, like any other RPG delivered choice.....within the overall narrative of the story they wanted to tell.

ME has never been about Shep, or the crew coming out on top unscathed. It has always been about the sacrifices they were all willing to make for the greater good.

So, if all the endings are accurate and the crew is always some variation of screwed, it's not a shock. Play musical chairs with the martyrdom devil and sooner or later you're going to be left without a chair when the music stops and asked to actually make that sacrifice..

"Fight for the lost." (Not for a better end for themselves)

"We fight for the people standing when it's all over." (Not for a better end for themselves)

If Shep were looking for a happy ending for himself and those closest to him, he would have been better off selling out to the Reapers when he was basically offered a survival pass if he joined up with them in the last two games.

But it was never about his/her own happiness.

All roads pretty much led here, and the fact that you didn't see it and are now all so enraged by it is almost nonsense.

Shep's cool with the endings because all this was about giving everyone else a chance, not himself.

Cancel your preorders, go cry, fume here for another 300 pages or whatever else you feel like you need to do, but don't act like you're actually hurting BW or EA or anyone else.

And, yes, I know that just ticks you all off more.  

Haha, saying the same crap again just differently still makes it the same old crap.  You still have absolutely no point.  Sending the entire galaxy into a dark age is a sacrifice.  It happens no matter what.  Removing any ability to actually have an ending where your crew fights with you to end and stays with you is lazy.  Having 3 endings with a couple variations goes against everything the series is based on, or at least waht BW liked to say it was based on.

Again, show me someone who wanted rainbows and puppies.  I asked for proof of your contention not more rationalization on your part.

Don't you get it?

Billions dead, intergalactic travel eliminated, Normandy crew stranded = hardcore, deep, emotional ending.
Billions dead, intergalactic travel eliminated, Normandy crew not stranded = Unrealistic sushine and gumdrops ending for the Disney crowd.

Exactly.

Everyone else in the galaxy is totally devestated and/or hosed, but, hey, we're all ok. Whooooooooooo. High fives everybody, Doc Chakwas, break out the Serrice Ice Brandy. Me and Ash are gonna head up and do soma lovin'"

Ridiculous. 

[Rdubs]

Just thought of this. It would have been VERY easy for these guys to come up with a wide variety of endings which would make fans super happy and really abide by the whole "your decisions matter" mantra, at little cost. All they had to do was have a kind of open-ended final battle and then close out the game with an epilogue slideshow, much like they did for DA:O and Fallout:New Vegas. They didn't have to throw in the towel and just go for one disappointing ending with minor variations because that's all the cinema/CGI development time they had. I think fans would much rather have had an epilogue slideshow where it shows their Shepard and love interest living happily ever after, than some kind of forced cinematic ending.

Which raises the question: Seeing as how I'm sure they thought of that, why didn't they do it? What's the benefit of forcing everyone into a similar ending? And I think here the answer is as others have stated, ME3 endings were forced to be similar simply to set the stage for follow-on development.

[PosterAnonymous]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Jacy Pane wrote...

PosterAnonymous wrote...

Screw it - If I want to spend $90 and be left unsatisfied I'll take my girlfriend to a nice restaurant and have her tell me she's "too tired" afterwards...

Dude, that's the itis. Get her some jewelry next time.

Seriously, jewelry is far better than dinner when push comes to shove. At least in my experience.

I bought her a gold bracelet recently... Most expensive gift a girlfriend of mine has ever received.

Sashimi_taco wrote...

I wasn't aware that sex required trade goods to be initated. I thought you just had to be good at sex so she would actually want to have sex with you.

I know it is crazy, but I actually enjoy sex with my SO.

Getting her in bed and enjoying it are two seperate things, as Mass Effect has taught us. Sure, we don't enjoy the fact that Bioware made us waste all that time saying just the right thing and making all the right choices just to sack that blue lesbian then only to send her on a one-way trip to Breedersville, Population: YOU.

Oh. There should be a "but" there, but I don't have one.

WarBaby2 wrote...

All depends on the length of the relationship... the first couple a years dinner will do... later... well. ;-)

Ha! I'll tell her that next time she wants something - It's been 6 months or so.

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Lol, I cannot believe this is getting discussed. We better stop before this entire thread gets closed because of this.

Meh... We can sit here and moan and groan about how lame this is or we can have fun. I choose fun with a side-order of "I just received my cancellation confirmation".

[Kileyan]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Sashimi_taco wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

ratzerman wrote...

I have a Gamestop receipt in my wallet from June 29 for a ME3 CE, paid in full. I can't believe I'm actually considering trying to get a refund.

You think the CE will still be valuable once the game is out? You think I could sell it unopened for a profit?

Not trying to be dramatic. Seriously wondering.

If this goes down as it seems to, prices will probably collapse within 2-3 weeks down to $30. After two months, there will be no market for this game.

Yeah right, people will still want it. 

For the CE, maybe; for the standard edition, nope. The number of used copies hitting the market will be through the roof.

No doubt, I am usually one to play any game with classes at least a few times with the classes that have different playstyles. If these ending are true, I can't really see myself exploring all the different totally depressing gritty grim dark endings. This is likely a used game purchase and trying to trade it in asap.

Sure that Bioware employee tried to tell me that the journey was the reward, not the ending, but I can't really psych myself up to play a game that is a totally depressing ending once, let alone multiple times. I certainly won't care about the multi-player unique serial code. I cannot imagine investing many hours in that so so mplay game, where nothing you do in single and multiplayer will change the really depressing ending. Was he trying to say that the gameplay is fun, but the story kinda sucks?

At least I understand now why the doctors, the founders of Bioware were talking about any new Mass Effect games being prequels. It makes sense, no matter what you do, the current Mass Effect universe is dead, burned to ashes, thrown into a black hole. The Mass Effect we know is done. Any futre games will involed some 10000's of years old version of it, with no races or friends we know, and always the spectre of the bleak ending of that universe hanging over the head of any prequel. I'm so excited to play that game.

Modifié par Kileyan, 01 mars 2012 - 02:47 .

[RazorrX]

I guess there are different ways to look at it:

1. Retcon on what happens with a relay goes boom.

Or

2. The pulse that you send through the relay system helps to minimize the overall local explosion resulting in less overall collateral damage.

[Crimsanity]

cerberus1701 wrote...

You've spent so much time focusing on the individual trees that you've missed the forest, yes. The player knew almost from the start what Shep was doing this for and the price they were willing to pay to get it done.

He's fighting for galactic civilization, which gets destroyed no matter what option he picks, so... Bad endings are the only endings. What choices do you get? How many earthlings survive, the manner in which the relays explode (lol?), whether or not to be a douche and merge, whether some crew die or get marooned, and whether or not shep lives or dies. Illusion of choice, really. In the end, galactic civ is done, your fight was fairly pointless.

The only characters the series has developed enough for us to care about end up separated, marooned or dead. Awesome.

Modifié par Crimsanity, 01 mars 2012 - 02:47 .

[cotheer]

Sooo, they pulled out the "just for the shock effect" ending(s)?
And here i am, planning on replaying the first two to get perfect savegames. *scratch that*