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DifferentD17 wrote...

Checking in, I'm sure nothing will happen during the weekend so I don't think I'll be around as much.


We still have to hold the line I guess.

As long as you don't run off to play the MP event. :wizard:

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Mortensus wrote...

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I mean, lets be honest. If BW came forward and said 'Look, we wanted to get the game out on time and did our best. But the fact is that we had problems, messed up and the result was less than what anyone desired due to time constrants'. How many of us would be somewhat more forgiving towards them? I don't mean in the 'OK, then we'll accept the ending as it is' way, but at least in the 'Well, we at least know you didn't start out trying to screw things up' way.


I suspect the initial outcry would have been there, but everyone would have bought the game in the end anyways and I think a lot of players would have understood it. At least those of us of a certain mental age :)

What bugs me a bit about this whole "might not have had enough time for a proper finish" thing is, that they said they worked on the DLC from ashes after they were done with the game so that just feels a bit off doens't it? I mean i might be wrong there or they have redone that statement but i'm sure i read that some days ago in an article about the enraged "drama" about the day1 DLC.
If that is true, how did they have the time to make a whole DLC but not to make the end that they originally had planned?
That just seems really weird and unbelievable? 


besides that, it's not even necessary so much more work to give us an end with some closure, like da:o  etc have done previously, it could have appeared a little "cheap" for such a game, but certainly most of the players would think : ok, no fancy videos, but at least, i know a little more what happened to my crew etc, let's try another run and see what happen now with this other shepard .. And maybe they would have hundreds of players complaining, not thousands lol


Honesty's always the best policy.. unless you're a Renegade.  They could have PR couped this if they had of come out and said "We're close to finished.. but we need 3 more months so we don't release a game that we don't feel is the quality it should be".  STOP DRINKING THE MANAGEMENT COFFEE BIOWARE.  Did you not see Dilbert?!  Engineers should never drink management coffee.. it can cause the end of the world! *dies laughing at thoughts of the satellites falling out of the sky*

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Just saw this one http://h9.abload.de/img/jhtqyrqxxg.jpg posted here.

Read it and, oh god, quite awesome. I can almost imagine the scene where the harbinger "assumes control" of the illusive man.

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Mortensus wrote...

Sevantha wrote...

Cybermortis wrote...


I mean, lets be honest. If BW came forward and said 'Look, we wanted to get the game out on time and did our best. But the fact is that we had problems, messed up and the result was less than what anyone desired due to time constrants'. How many of us would be somewhat more forgiving towards them? I don't mean in the 'OK, then we'll accept the ending as it is' way, but at least in the 'Well, we at least know you didn't start out trying to screw things up' way.


I suspect the initial outcry would have been there, but everyone would have bought the game in the end anyways and I think a lot of players would have understood it. At least those of us of a certain mental age :)

What bugs me a bit about this whole "might not have had enough time for a proper finish" thing is, that they said they worked on the DLC from ashes after they were done with the game so that just feels a bit off doens't it? I mean i might be wrong there or they have redone that statement but i'm sure i read that some days ago in an article about the enraged "drama" about the day1 DLC.
If that is true, how did they have the time to make a whole DLC but not to make the end that they originally had planned?
That just seems really weird and unbelievable? 


besides that, it's not even necessary so much more work to give us an end with some closure, like da:o  etc have done previously, it could have appeared a little "cheap" for such a game, but certainly most of the players would think : ok, no fancy videos, but at least, i know a little more what happened to my crew etc, let's try another run and see what happen now with this other shepard .. And maybe they would have hundreds of players complaining, not thousands lol


Screw that, why not just call it "Mass Effect 3: Part 1"

At least we'd know it wasn't over.

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Thanks guys. At least the feeling reminds me of where I stand. On the line to hold it till the end, one way or the other.

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Well UK Fleet signing out for the night, and thank you to everyone who has donated. Lets keep going.
Hold the line.

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LPKerberos wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

Checking in, I'm sure nothing will happen during the weekend so I don't think I'll be around as much.


We still have to hold the line I guess.

As long as you don't run off to play the MP event. :wizard:


Of course not, My fiancee aren't even going to play ME3 this weekend at all.

I'll probably be around more than I thought I would.... lol

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LPKerberos wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

Checking in, I'm sure nothing will happen during the weekend so I don't think I'll be around as much.


We still have to hold the line I guess.

As long as you don't run off to play the MP event. :wizard:


Heh, I played some of that MP event before I realized what it meant. While I have temporarily suspended myself from playing ME3, I'm still torn as to whether or not this was a preplanned event or a hastily-contrived publicity stunt. I'm inclined to assume good faith, however, on top of the fact that it seems to be rather a lot of work in such a short time to put the event up as a means of placating us.

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LPKerberos wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

Checking in, I'm sure nothing will happen during the weekend so I don't think I'll be around as much.


We still have to hold the line I guess.

As long as you don't run off to play the MP event. :wizard:


bigger impact when they come back, do not falter, go foward! hold the line people. 

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BBCH wrote...

Not sure if anyone's posted it yet... a good review of the game and a critique of the state of video game journalism

www.damnlag.com/mass-effect-3-review-so-close-to-sticking-the-landing/
www.damnlag.com/a-lack-of-value-the-reviews/


Wow. That second one about video game journalism is great. And yeah, I have no idea what the G4TV paragraph that they quote means in the slightest.

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Nevos is a habitable world with 2 moons, any thoughts on that being the planet the Normandy crashes on?

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Just posted this in the thread created for suggesting fixes:

Dear Jessica, dear Bioware developers,

couldnt express it better. Nevertheless here are some of my thoughts, hoping they reach one of you.

The endings as they are do not fit. It just feels wrong as it is. Joker would not flee the battlefield. And if he did, he would have a real good reason for it. You expected too much from us if you really wanted us to figure it out by ourselves. Feels like reading a novel that is missing pages.

Also, the endings dont feel different at all. All three are mostly the same- and they seem like a bad ending for sure. I showed the endings to my girlfriend, who is a bigger fan of the series than you possibly can imagine. She asked what i did wrong to get the bad ending (it was the perfect one where Shepard took a breath) I guess we old fans expected something that was more distinctive.

Why didnt we get to see what consequences my actions had? Even it was just texts like in DA:O. Geth helping the Quarians, maybe Turains and Krogan mourning their dead soldiers together (or preparing the next war) and so on. The fans feel betrayed because of those missing consequences- they put a lot of love and effort in their actions.

The Star Child and Organics vs. Synthetics thing is a bad explanation to the reapers' motives: For three games they told me their motives where incomprehensible for me. Well, for that it was easy. Pretty cheap actually. So easy, i couldnt believe THIS was behind all this. Surely my girlfiend couldnt (she saw it totyly unspoiled). Thats why so many believe in the indoctrination theory rather than in what we got. Despite being the last straw for many of us, it seems far more logical than the Cycle- stuff.

I'd say three endings would have been enough instead of your 16. One total fail, one in the middle and one for the prefect game. If they'd only been properly written. As the person in quoted said: a framework that is logikally sound would have made the last 2 % of the game as awesome as the 98 % before- the most important 2 % though.

Thanks for listening.

Modifié par Bedavenerabilis, 18 mars 2012 - 12:28 .


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Goodwood wrote...

LPKerberos wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

Checking in, I'm sure nothing will happen during the weekend so I don't think I'll be around as much.


We still have to hold the line I guess.

As long as you don't run off to play the MP event. :wizard:


Heh, I played some of that MP event before I realized what it meant. While I have temporarily suspended myself from playing ME3, I'm still torn as to whether or not this was a preplanned event or a hastily-contrived publicity stunt. I'm inclined to assume good faith, however, on top of the fact that it seems to be rather a lot of work in such a short time to put the event up as a means of placating us.


Yeah the ad art for it has been on 360 dashboard for a few days, and I'm pretty sure, from memory, Microsoft requires at LEAST 14 days to ensure it goes through their channels to even get it on there.  It's more likely it was a multiplayer booster for when most people would have finished singleplayer.

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hold the line

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People keeps saying 'i don't mind if Shepard dies, as long as it is worth it, etc'. Sorry but for me that doesn't cut it, because my Shep doesn't die (by 'doesn't' I mean 'shouldn't'), as that's not my story... I think we should be able to live (more than just taking a breath in some rubble) if we make the right choices and work our asses off. Maybe i'm just wanting too many rainbows, but as choices are supposed to master in these games, I choose rainbows.

Am I just way to selfi- optimistic?

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Did you guys watch this video ?:o



if this is true... its genius xD

Modifié par II WhiteWolf NL, 18 mars 2012 - 12:29 .


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Goodwood wrote...

Heh, I played some of that MP event before I realized what it meant. While I have temporarily suspended myself from playing ME3, I'm still torn as to whether or not this was a preplanned event or a hastily-contrived publicity stunt. I'm inclined to assume good faith, however, on top of the fact that it seems to be rather a lot of work in such a short time to put the event up as a means of placating us.


If you had 50k+ ravenous dogs crawling at your door (metaphorically), I'm pretty sure you'd do rather a lot of work in short time to find some food for them - or find a way out.

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can any one give me the email to bioware so i can send my email

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I basically just emailed the pic.

http://h9.abload.de/img/jhtqyrqxxg.jpg

Couldn't get more appropriate than that.

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Hmmm....activate relay...jump 264 pages....

Sorry if I missed what some people were saying, but seriously....Image IPB

I followed one thread and it lkead me to a definition on False Advertisement. Its just funny what add showed up on the page.

http://i281.photobuc...vertisement.png

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Just finished my playthrough with 100% readiness and THAT was my "perfect" ending? Oh and apparently Joker, Garrus, and Vega procreate together and form a colony...wtf

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Darkspazztic wrote...

I basically just emailed the pic.

http://h9.abload.de/img/jhtqyrqxxg.jpg

Couldn't get more appropriate than that.


Ok, nice!

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Phoenix AZ reporting back in. Anything happen in the last 12 hours? I know about the whole sticky thread asking for input towards the endings. Any other info? I doubt it, seeing as its the weekend and news usually slows way down on the weekend.

Continue to HOLD THE LINE!

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Tarnation007 wrote...

People keeps saying 'i don't mind if Shepard dies, as long as it is worth it, etc'. Sorry but for me that doesn't cut it, because my Shep doesn't die (by 'doesn't' I mean 'shouldn't'), as that's not my story... I think we should be able to live (more than just taking a breath in some rubble) if we make the right choices and work our asses off. Maybe i'm just wanting too many rainbows, but as choices are supposed to master in these games, I choose rainbows.

Am I just way to selfi- optimistic?


Not at all. If a game has sixteen different endings you'd think that the protaganist would live in ONE of those endings! I am in the camp that doesn't mind if Shepard lives or dies, but in a game like Mass Effect 3, the option for both endings should be available.

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fade2black2610 wrote...

Cybermortis wrote...

fade2black2610 wrote...

Aiden_Cora wrote...

I just Reached London in my second ME playthrough. Galaxy readiness at 78%, military strength @5100. Normally I would hope to get a better ending than my previous playthrough (@ 3000 str) I just can't go further... I can't...


Well feel for me then, I live in London and I'm stuck knowing if I ever see a beam of light in the street then I'm just moments away from the most disappointing experience of my life. 


Wait, you mean living in London can be even MORE depressing? :blink:

(As you *might* gather I'm from further North....;))


At least I know that if this glorious city ever gets destroyed by giant sentient beings then surprisingly Big Ben will stand strong. 

ya know no matter the movie/game/book/tv show Big Ben is indestructible..unlike The Statue of Liberty which get alway blow upn no matter what.