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[runwhileucan]

Computim wrote...

XTiferethX wrote...


 CNN is listening to
http://edition.cnn.c...ame-reviews.cnn

Irony - a red cross disaster relief commercial lead into that video.  I thought it was appropriate, being as Mass Effect's ending was an unmitigated disaster ;P

I was thinking the same thing.

[Jetfire99]

So yes as I posted this morning I'm not so good with words and I'm throwing up my letter for the email/letter campaign. I proofed it as best I can but I'd like another few sets of eyes. I also don't want to hurt our cause by mistake either so here we go.

I have chosen to take this time to write to you about several issues that have come up the to the ending of the game Mass Effect 3. We were promised closure but only got more questions than answers along with the majority of our choices not seeming to matter. It really comes down to this we were purchasing a product that has claimed to have one thing and it was not as advertised. I am not one of those who would demand a must for a happy ending. However we were told we were going to get a product that would bring closure to the story and we have not had that. What I am writing to ask for is some measure of closure to the amazing ride that Mass Effect has been.

The game had been high quality to the last ten minutes of play, when it came unglued. The sudden appearance of the Catalyst the massive turning of lore on it's head. Opening several very blatant plot holes in the previous established series. Which lead into 3 choices that not not really reflect anything of what we'd done to that point. Followed up by the nonsensical cut of your London squad and the Normandy crashing on a mysterious planet. The final cuts scenes only change slightly on a few choices from each other such as who you'd see in the character montage.

Also there are other strange happenings which leave plot holes such as Anderson beating you to the citadel or what TIM was doing there as well. Also just how did your London party end up on the Normandy as well?

With all of the plot holes and the lack of what the product was promised to deliver. Which is why I am writing this letter. I respectfully request, along with the other members of the #RetakeMassEffect movement, that a solution is found to this. The people in this group have shown their dedication to the cause. Making use of social media, the forums, donations and even polls. We shown out interest in a resolution to this issue and I am not able to offer a magic bullet to fix this my self. I will say something needs to be done maintain the high product quality I have come to expect from Bioware products. For I did not expect to be purchasing an unfinished product.

I am a customer and a fan of your products thank you for taking the time to listen to my letter and I hope we hear back soon. I will now go back to holding the line.

[Koobarex]

Computim wrote...

Koobarex wrote...

Goodwood wrote...

Koobarex wrote...

Marauder Shields: Shepard's Last Foe
EPISODE 5: "The Importance of London"

In this episode we finally learn why London was so important to the Reapers. Not my greatest moment, but it took very little time to complete, so why waste it, right? The next one should be a bit more epic.

HOLD THE LINE!

Do you have all five comics up on a single site? I'd love to show these to my girlfriend, who is an accomplished artist herself.

Well, by all means I'm not an artist, not even talking about that "accomplished" part. If you look closely at these comics you'll see that they are indeed drawings over cut up screenshots, models and other references, slapped together in Photoshop with layers and layers of effects added on top, plus a pinch of Space Magic here and there. I know my way around PS and my tablet, but little above that. If you want to see all the comics in one place, visit http://koobismo.deviantart.com. 

...sounds a lot like the ending of ME3  *rimshots*

Seriously though, I love them.  They crack me up, it's like a subtle serious humour, reminds me of Red Dwarf hahaha

Oh, hell yeah, I could create that Stargazer scene for ya' in minutes. Thanks for the compliments, I actually wasn't too sure if #5 was good enough for publishing, but I have two bigger and better ones up my sleeve. x)

[VivaLaWhatsername]

SSV Auckland signing off for now, I have to get some dinner.

Really repetitive but fun to say: Hold The Line

[Stygian1]

headin' to bed.


Hold the Line guys, we're going great.

[Teacher50]

Computim wrote...

XTiferethX wrote...


 CNN is listening to
http://edition.cnn.c...ame-reviews.cnn

Irony - a red cross disaster relief commercial lead into that video.  I thought it was appropriate, being as Mass Effect's ending was an unmitigated disaster ;P

Good catch.... too bad it's at the end. Great though.

[MrPuschel]

Bye bye and good night :3

[Generic Name]

Burnaby Pyjaks reporting in.

Now to read nearly 40 pages.

[XTiferethX]

Night everyone
Never let go of the line

[KaiserinKai]

Computim wrote...

XTiferethX wrote...


 CNN is listening to
http://edition.cnn.c...ame-reviews.cnn

Irony - a red cross disaster relief commercial lead into that video.  I thought it was appropriate, being as Mass Effect's ending was an unmitigated disaster ;P

What I think is ironic is that the kid is supposed to make you sad at his death. I remember crying when he died the first time I played through. Now when I see that part I cheer!

[MeldarthX]

Emo Solus wrote...

Ramshakkle wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

[snip]

I'll get my crayons.

This is important: Which size box? We need ALL THE COLORS!

Yeah ALL the colors... Not just red, green and blue xD... Speaking of colors... Why wasn't there a purple choice? o-O I wanted an ending where a purple beam goes from relay to relay and turns everyone in the galaxy into purple chickens... OF DOOM! Then I'd have my purple chicken army so I could defeat the reapers ^-^ "I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested" O-O
Hmm...
Hold the squiggly line!

I just thought of a new Skiddles commercial.........and yea its terrible; but its almost 5 am and I got whiskey......

Mass Effect 3 - taste the rainbow

[Roll Equals Cute]

Alright everyone, New York heading to bed.

Hold the line, we're doing great! Mordin would be proud of us.

Modifié par Roll Equals Cute, 18 mars 2012 - 04:49 .

[fremenblue]

Good morning everyone. Czech fleet reporting to the line.

Keep the pressure, keep it civil, fight for better end.

[Vorodill]

Will we let them go with such an ending! Never!

[DifferentD17]

Roll Equals Cute wrote...

Alright everyone, New York heading to bed.

Hold the line, we're doing great! Mordin would be proud of us.

We have to do it, Bioware got it wrong.

[thedistortedchild]

Do not go gentle into that good night, 
Old age should burn and rage at close of day; 
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
 Because their words had forked no lightning they
 Do not go gentle into that good night.
Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
 Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
 Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,
And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,
 Do not go gentle into that good night.
Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight
 Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay, 
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
And you, my father, there on the sad height,
 Curse, bless me now with your fierce tears, I pray. 
Do not go gentle into that good night. 
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
_________
See that line? Hold it. Goodnight all.

Modifié par thedistortedchild, 18 mars 2012 - 04:55 .

[crimsontotem]

Bioware's image is at stake, if they made this ending and keep it nonfixed, their image will go down significantly from one of the greatest story telling game makers to a huge screw ups.

Come on Bioware! we are trying to save your image! we are trying to save your franchise that you guys worked so hard for 5 years! ultimately I would be really sad to hear someday when people will say "I won't pull Mass Effect on you". To hear someone saying that to a thing that I was emotionally attached to would be devastating.

[cheinara2]

I wrote this letter to BioWare, I hope they don't see it as preachy or rude:

Hello, BioWare!

You've done more than amazing work in the past, and Mass Effect 3 is no different. I laughed, I cried, I swooned. I agree, the trilogy is a wonderful piece of art. Of all the computers in all the world, Mass Effect had to be installed on mine. I loved and hated characters, I went up and came down with the story. It was the most interactive digital adventure that I've ever experienced; the entire time I played, I felt responsible and in-control of the game and where it was leading. It takes real talent to allow customers to take the reigns and actually make them feel like they're controlling everything that happens. Cause and effect is not something that is easily and coherently strung together, that's what makes this game so special.

I think the discussions on the forums should probably be taken as flattery, the emotion and frustration pouring out at the moment is only more proof that the series itself is an effective narrative on game design and the craft of storytelling. While some people may be upset that the resulting ending of the story does not match up with their character, it does show just how much effort and love they put into the series (probably nearly as much as those who worked on it; putting their blood, sweat, tears and energy drinks into the game's narrative, environment and interactions).

It's true that asking Monet to change one of his paintings would be completely ridiculous, and in all actuality unfair. He painted it, stroke for stroke and colour by colour, into the beautiful piece that we know and love - but he did it alone. For Mass Effect, that paintbrush is held by thousands upon thousands of people - developers, artists and customers alike. Because of the game's design, the player feels like a co-writer - putting time and effort into the character and the character's interactions.

The ending of Shepard's story may very well end in sacrifice for quite a few people (for me, it was a story of hope, not self-sacrifice); I know two of my full-paragon Shepards would make that choice without hesitation. I have two others that would go through hell and back to save everything and still see their crew. After all, my suicide missions ended with no casualties even though the chance for several to die was available. At the end of the trilogy, there seems to exist only three decisions - to force all life to become a hybrid without consent, which would imply conceit on Shepard's part; to control the reapers and send them away, which implies no actual ending to the threat nor closure for what actually happens to them or their plans for the future; to destroy the reapers, which implies wipe out an entire race that you brought to enlightenment and destroying a friend and relationship within your crew - the only family you've come to know over the series.

While these three decisions are robust in and of themselves with implications, they do not lend themselves to the interaction of choice and closure that I had come to rely on during the series. I respect the choice of ending, but what follows plunges the player into somewhat of a mystery. A few questions sprung to my mind about the game after the end:

• Why would Joker and Shepard's crew flee when they would never leave before? Joker even blamed himself for the first time Shepard died.
• If the Normandy crash-lands on a place nearby, why would they smile while exiting the ship? Even the love interest seemed to be happy.
• The logic of the Star Child seemed circular and flawed. Shepard reaching that point proved the flaw, which presented extra options for the ending - so why aren't more than three options available, if this self-proclated artificial intelligence seems powerful enough to destroy all the mass relays and the reapers, or powerful enough to change all life's chemical makeup? If that option is available, why not target just the reapers?

I understand that once you reach the ending's apex, it becomes less about Shepard and more about humanity and preserving life, which is why the decision to radically change everything is present and mostly clear. However, nearly the entire series is about banding together, taking other species into consideration, what constitutes a life and what makes a being have a soul. To make these decisions without seeing the resulting and immediate effects on our loved ones and friends makes my ending feel hollow. Yes, I could imagine an ending in which I save everything and myself; I could imagine an ending where I sacrifice myself and everyone remembers me as a hero. My imagination could go on and on, but it could never create a difinitive end that I knew to be true.

I could imagine a thousand pictures in my head, but I could never paint water lilies the same way Monet could.

Respectfully yours,

[Ramshakkle]

KaiserinKai wrote...

[snip]

What I think is ironic is that the kid is supposed to make you sad at his death. I remember crying when he died the first time I played through. Now when I see that part I cheer!

I actually never was particularly bummed out when the kid went.... Yeah, it was kinda sad, but never really got to me. Then again, I attribute that to abnormal priorities. Example: If it were a quarian child, the game would not stop me from saving it.

[RatedRRachel]

thedistortedchild wrote...

Do not go gentle into that good night, 
Old age should burn and rage at close of day; 
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
 Because their words had forked no lightning they
 Do not go gentle into that good night.
Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
 Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
 Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,
And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,
 Do not go gentle into that good night.
Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight
 Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay, 
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
And you, my father, there on the sad height,
 Curse, bless me now with your fierce tears, I pray. 
Do not go gentle into that good night. 
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
_________
See that line? Hold it. Goodnight all.

Dylan Thomas... love it. <3

[Lord Costantino]

crimsontotem wrote...

Bioware's image is at stake, if they made this ending and keep it nonfixed, their image will go down significantly from one of the greatest story telling game makers to a huge screw ups.

Come on Bioware! we are trying to save your image! we are trying to save your franchise that you guys worked so hard for 5 years! ultimately I would be really sad to hear someday when people will say "I won't pull Mass Effect on you". To hear someone saying that to a thing that I was emotionally attached to would be devastating.

Now that we have been realized by CNN (even though it was a small seg) it will HAVE to be changed. Their entire name rides on how well they come out with the new ending or a new ending at all. At this point I bet a new ending will come out...still can't play any Mass Effect games until its changed.

[Emo Solus]

MeldarthX wrote...

Emo Solus wrote...

Ramshakkle wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

[snip]

I'll get my crayons.

This is important: Which size box? We need ALL THE COLORS!

Yeah ALL the colors... Not just red, green and blue xD... Speaking of colors... Why wasn't there a purple choice? o-O I wanted an ending where a purple beam goes from relay to relay and turns everyone in the galaxy into purple chickens... OF DOOM! Then I'd have my purple chicken army so I could defeat the reapers ^-^ "I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested" O-O
Hmm...
Hold the squiggly line!

I just thought of a new Skiddles commercial.........and yea its terrible; but its almost 5 am and I got whiskey......

Mass Effect 3 - taste the rainbow

LMAO! I don't think I wanna taste the skiddles o-O sounds wrong haha xD skittles though... YUM =3 Ah same here, 4:53 am and I got whiskey too! But I'm saving it from seeing the ME3 ending... o-O and I only know one way how... DRRRRINK! 

Lol Mass Errect 3 - taste the lazy rainbow xD rainbows at least have more than 3 colors =D

[Nightfire78]

Ritly13 wrote...

I was fine with the ultimate sacrifice and kinda expected it, but the part that set me off was after the beam was sent, every relay was destroyed! And according to head scientist in the Arrival DLC, every relay destroyed is like a supernova going off. I f***'ed up Earth, every major race's system, stranded countless colonies from supplies, (probably) destroyed the galactic fleet, AND stranded the Normandy and crew on an unknown planet! 0_0
Umm...cue epic credits?

Ah but you did it to an epic triumph musical score. That makes it all better... <_<

[SuperTeal]

Militarized wrote...

Singularity theories are, in my opinion, fear mongering of idiots. Although I admit we've had some good franchises come out of it like Terminator, it completely spits on the advancements we've made a species, as cultures, and as individual people. World violence is statistically lowering, but a singularity theory delves into the idea that "the AI views us as a barbaric threat" or that it is saving us from ourselves. We're slowly but surely advancing at our own pace... singularity theory = don't bother doing that. 

It's anti-science bull crap and I hate it.. I really, really hate it. 

I think fear mongering of idiots is a good way of putting it.  Singularity theory isn't a bad idea as far as narrative fiction goes, but it's old.  The way that the people at Bioware approached this theory was not new and it only helped them sink ME3's ending.  I would have been okay with that little brat if he his whole basis for being wasn't a poorly written cop out.