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[turian councilor Knockout]

SpiderFan1217 wrote...

turian councilor Knockout wrote...

Smecky Kitteh wrote...

turian councilor Knockout wrote...

Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

turian councilor Knockout wrote...
not everything is sunshine and happiness, DEAL WITH IT

Yup, but I play video games to forget how crappy real life can be at times.

And now all hope is out and the only cure is ....... yes that's right 

Romance novels?

no something even more romantic called suicide with your LI in ME 3. 

  GASP!!! A love story for the Ages!! 

Indeed isn't that shocking, well done all you deserve a price if you do it *Bioware will tell you more in a week* 

[Arch1eviathan]

Satanicponies wrote...

I just dont care for how they handled the normandy crew "post game" ..... "allegedly"

The same happened to the curberus crew but i'm not sure if this also includes your squad mates this time around.

[Capeo]

FemaleMageFan wrote...

i don't want my ending i want the bioware ending because they have been guiding me through this experience and i want to see how they will end it. And i like that ending Different taste from the normal "you are a hero you saved everyone jesuss" endings. This is war not a walk in the park to get free waffles. I like it, it seems more realistic. Happy endings are overrated

Uh, a martyr ending is by definition a "Jesus ending".  Which is what we got.

[magnuskn]

FemaleMageFan wrote...

i don't want my ending i want the bioware ending because they have been guiding me through this experience and i want to see how they will end it. And i like that ending Different taste from the normal "you are a hero you saved everyone jesuss" endings. This is war not a walk in the park to get free waffles. I like it, it seems more realistic. Happy endings are overrated

Well, good for you, because you are getting your favored ending. So, now you want to prohibit us from wanting another ending?

[Nerevar-as]

Kanmuru wrote...

Teredan wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

What's with this 'we used to get the ending we wanted' nonsense?

Bioware has always provided limited endings, and they've never been particularly happy or optimistic since ME1's, which was an ending for a game that might not even have gotten a sequel.

How is the ME2 everyone survived not happy?
How is the good ending in KotoR not happy?
How is the DA ending (which had varying degrees of "good") not happy?

I seriously have no idea which bioware games you've been playing.

Yes they have always provided a limited number of endings but usually ones that cover all major camps.

What makes you think that dead main character = bad ending? The entire galaxy is safe because of your actions, thats a good ending (just like self sacrifice in DAO)

DA:O sacrifice ending was sacrificing your soul because the Maker is a jerk, thank Gaider for the DR.

Funny enough, I planned to take the ending where Shep survives before knowing that. It just feels wrong that he ends stranded from everyone else (who apparently end stranded themselves).

[Arch1eviathan]

turian councilor Knockout wrote...

Smecky Kitteh wrote...

turian councilor Knockout wrote...

Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

turian councilor Knockout wrote...
not everything is sunshine and happiness, DEAL WITH IT

Yup, but I play video games to forget how crappy real life can be at times.

And now all hope is out and the only cure is ....... yes that's right 

Romance novels?

no something even more romantic called suicide with your LI in ME 3. 

Great! so do I remove Tali's mask before or after the stories climax?

[Teredan]

FemaleMageFan wrote...

i don't want my ending i want the bioware ending because they have been guiding me through this experience and i want to see how they will end it. And i like that ending Different taste from the normal "you are a hero you saved everyone jesuss" endings. This is war not a walk in the park to get free waffles. I like it, it seems more realistic. Happy endings are overrated

Then you are covered that nice. And why deny others the ending they want? mmh?
Really I just don't get the attitude some people have. It's like others can't get what they want because it makes the thing I got cheaper in my eyes.... just ridiculous.

[magnuskn]

Nerevar-as wrote...

DA:O sacrifice ending was sacrificing your soul because the Maker is a jerk, thank Gaider for the DR.

And DA:O gave us the option to have a happier ending ( although a more uncertain one ).

[RiouHotaru]

CptData wrote...

Pretty much what you said, OP.

In short:


BW told us, the endings won't make everybody happy.
Truth is: the endings will make everybody sad.


And that, fellow fans, is the only truth here. Lets shove that down their throat.

So where is the official posting that confirms these endings, hm?

[turian councilor Knockout]

Smecky Kitteh wrote...

turian councilor Knockout wrote...

Smecky Kitteh wrote...

turian councilor Knockout wrote...

Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

turian councilor Knockout wrote...
not everything is sunshine and happiness, DEAL WITH IT

Yup, but I play video games to forget how crappy real life can be at times.

And now all hope is out and the only cure is ....... yes that's right 

Romance novels?

no something even more romantic called suicide with your LI in ME 3. 

Great! so do I remove Tali's mask before or after the stories climax?

After ofc what's the point of doing it in life aside from seeing that your lovely LI is actually uglier than a hagraven with tummy ache  from skyrim 

Modifié par turian councilor Knockout, 28 février 2012 - 05:02 .

[Dean_the_Young]

Teredan wrote...

How is the ME2 everyone survived not happy?

Because not only is the immediate threat of the Reaper's approach underlined, but Arrival ends with massacring a system.

How is the good ending in KotoR not happy?

Do you remember what KOTOR leads into?

How is the DA ending (which had varying degrees of "good") not happy?

The Dragon Age series in particular specializes in bitter-sweet endings, with either required death or ominous absences in the ending.

Yes they have always provided a limited number of endings but usually ones that cover all major camps.

Not really. Bioware usually provides two major endings, and then tag-along variables.

[Nathan Redgrave]

I'm not actually trying to contest the point made by this particular post, but questions were asked that I felt inclined to answer anyway...

Teredan wrote...

How is the ME2 everyone survived not happy?

You thwarted a Reaper plot that had already reduced tens of thousands of people to genetic paste, and you still have the prospect of a full-on Reaper invasion in the not-too-distant future. "Happy" that is not, nor an ending. I would call it more of a best-case scenario than a happy ending, where you know things couldn't have been better under the circumstances and could have in fact gone a lot worse.

How is the DA ending (which had varying degrees of "good") not happy?

Because regardless of happiness levels, Grey Wardens go insane within three decades and are expected to commit ritual suicide by throwing themselves into a hopeless battle at that time.

So no matter what happens, your character is fudged. Except it doesn't come out as fudge, now, does it?

Modifié par Nathan Redgrave, 28 février 2012 - 05:02 .

[xtorma]

Teredan wrote...

FemaleMageFan wrote...

i don't want my ending i want the bioware ending because they have been guiding me through this experience and i want to see how they will end it. And i like that ending Different taste from the normal "you are a hero you saved everyone jesuss" endings. This is war not a walk in the park to get free waffles. I like it, it seems more realistic. Happy endings are overrated

Then you are covered that nice. And why deny others the ending they want? mmh?
Really I just don't get the attitude some people have. It's like others can't get what they want because it makes the thing I got cheaper in my eyes.... just ridiculous.

this is the same sex threads reimaged....but...but...but...we just want choice.......why should you care....bla bla bla.

[DiegoProgMetal]

****SPOILER***** ALERT ***** SPOILER *****


But let's think for a moment: IF we save earth, and destroy the reapers. The citadel is moved to Earth during the game, and the final choice will happen there. Which means Shepard is in Earth after the destruction, so are all the civilizations, ships, troops, from every species Shepard gathered to help retake Earth. The protheans reverse engineered the mass relays. So, with the help of Turians, Salarians, Asari, Krogan (maybe even the Prothean himself) *, which will want to get back to their homeworlds, wouldn't it be a logic outcome that everybody would try to build mass relays ASAP, and eventually finding the Normandy crew wherever they are?


As we say in Brazil, "Hope is the last one to die!".

EDIT: forgot about Quarians and Geth!*

Modifié par DiegoProgMetal, 28 février 2012 - 05:07 .

[Dean_the_Young]

turian councilor Knockout wrote...

Oh but they made one just for you isn't that generous you should thank them or should i file a complaint to bioware ?

Who said they made one just for me?

[scotkrow]

Has anyone thought that this is bioware's game and story, we are only the fans, they can do what they want with their story. We can only make requests and hope they are heard, but sometimes you get what you didn't want, and later you come to appreciate it for it's originality.

[Teredan]

magnuskn wrote...

Nerevar-as wrote...

DA:O sacrifice ending was sacrificing your soul because the Maker is a jerk, thank Gaider for the DR.

And DA:O gave us the option to have a happier ending ( although a more uncertain one ).

Also to add to that DA:O was far more morally grey than Mass effect ever will be due it's renegade paragon system.

[turian councilor Knockout]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

turian councilor Knockout wrote...

Oh but they made one just for you isn't that generous you should thank them or should i file a complaint to bioware ?

Who said they made one just for me?

 none but you're one of them apparently, congrats:huh:

[llandwynwyn]

magnuskn wrote...

Nerevar-as wrote...

DA:O sacrifice ending was sacrificing your soul because the Maker is a jerk, thank Gaider for the DR.

And DA:O gave us the option to have a happier ending ( although a more uncertain one ).

Not if Loghain or Alistair sacrificed themselves for the greater good.

[Ryzaki]

Luc0s wrote...

xtorma wrote...

this is the same sex threads reimaged....but...but...but...we just want choice.......why should you care....bla bla bla.

What is wrong if offering players choice?

Those people who think only their choice should be offered of course. <_<

[Dean_the_Young]

CptData wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

What's with this 'we used to get the ending we wanted' nonsense?

Bioware has always provided limited endings, and they've never been particularly happy or optimistic since ME1's, which was an ending for a game that might not even have gotten a sequel.

Afaik BW (Chris???) said: the endings won't make everybody happy.

Now, I can live with that. I enjoy games with multiple "grey" endings if they come in different shades of grey. ME3 seems to have only ONE kind of grey and that's kinda depressing dark-grey. There's no "bright grey" ending, not even a "grey" (neutral) one.

So I'd say, that statement should be changed to: The endings will make nearly everybody unhappy.

Regardless of your choices, Shepard either dies or may survive separated from his/her friends forever. That also includes the LI. There's no good "personal" ending for Shepard and the crew (it could have been the "sweet" part in the "bittersweet" endings), just a bitter one.
And the other "global" ending for the galaxy is also a rather dark one, regardless of player's choices.

So we neither get a "bittersweet" ending (just several bitter endings) and also none that could be improved by fanfiction.

Since fanfiction ignores canon anyway, sure you can.

More important than that, however, saying there are no bittersweet endings locks sweetness to Shepard's survival alone... a ridiculous claim given the nature of the term.

[xtorma]

Luc0s wrote...

xtorma wrote...

this is the same sex threads reimaged....but...but...but...we just want choice.......why should you care....bla bla bla.

What is wrong if offering players choice?

Nothing , i am all for it, the similarities are hard to ignore though.

[magnuskn]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Teredan wrote...

How is the ME2 everyone survived not happy?

Because not only is the immediate threat of the Reaper's approach underlined, but Arrival ends with massacring a system.

How is the good ending in KotoR not happy?

Do you remember what KOTOR leads into?

How is the DA ending (which had varying degrees of "good") not happy?

The Dragon Age series in particular specializes in bitter-sweet endings, with either required death or ominous absences in the ending.

Yes they have always provided a limited number of endings but usually ones that cover all major camps.

Not really. Bioware usually provides two major endings, and then tag-along variables.

That was pretty weak-sauce. "So, yeah, those endings were perfectly happy... but focus on what happens afterwards, when we cannot see it anymore!" And Arrival was a DLC, which entered the picture long after the game came out.

DA:O had a perfectly happy ending, with the slight ominous undertone of Morrigan disappearing with her demon child.