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#42651
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Fox544 wrote...

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How on earth does mass effect progress after the endings to ME3? That's my problem, with the relays destroyed in all endings, Ashley ending up on the Normandy when it crashes (even though she was on earth with me), no need for breathing equipment on the "citadel".

I think it's a good ending if it was some sort of mental test after the beam hits, and progresses from there. Fallout 3 comes to mind.

I just really wanted a conclusion like in ME1 and ME2, not all of these questions that are confusing.


Technically they COULD make a spin off featuring the rebuilding of the galaxy. Most likely though you'll see a spin off  of the First Contact war. Hell they could take the Halo Wars approach and make an RTS. There are many ways they can go, just none of them is what anyone wants.


A lot think that they want to make some SP dlc, after them Bioware will make an Ending DLC or ME4. :mellow:

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Ugh, I just finished playing the Quarian mission where I unite both the Geth and Quarians after a 300 year war. The hope I felt during that long mission when I first played the game had me on the edge of my seat and I was ecstatic about what the ending would be like. I put the two races at peace, I got the Krogans and Turians to cooperate as one, Mercenary bands came together to fight under my command, and EVERY race was fighting for one goal. Now that I'm playing the game again I feel so hollow and angry. This in turn has fueled me to continue holding the line till Bioware is able to correct this mess of false hope and promises.

Modifié par Benathorn, 18 mars 2012 - 07:19 .


#42653
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Seeing everything I've seen now...
Australia is in for this. Hold the line!

#42654
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Benathorn wrote...

Ugh, I just finished playing the Quarian mission where I unite both the Geth and Quarians after a 500 year war. The hope I felt during that long mission when I first played the game had me on the edge of my seat and I was ecstatic about what the ending would be like. I put the two races at peace, I got the Krogans and Turians to cooperate as one, Mercenary bands came together to fight under my command, and EVERY race was fighting for one goal. Now that I'm playing the game again I feel so hollow and angry. This in turn has fueled me to continue holding the line till Bioware is able to correct this mess of false hope and promises.


Weren't that 300Years? :mellow:

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WvStolzing wrote...

The first 10mins. of this gives some insight into why the ending may have been botched.


(I think he ought to get more likes and views.)


This guy is spot-on. I got the hints that dark energy was a piece of the plot myself when I played ME2's mission to get Tali, myself. Yeah its a long video but I hope BW looks at it. Lots of information about the origin story created by BW and their divergence.

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Little Miss Angel wrote...

An interesting read on how the ending makes absolutely no sense whatsoever:

http://tinyurl.com/7vfvopd

Wow, there's some stuff there that I hadn't even picked up.

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Nharia1 wrote...

Damn it... I can't decide which to go with... Saving the Rachni, or killing them... again...
In the end it won't even matter....

pull a "marauder shields" and kill them. Save them from the terrible ending.

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Goikiu wrote...

Benathorn wrote...

Ugh, I just finished playing the Quarian mission where I unite both the Geth and Quarians after a 500 year war. The hope I felt during that long mission when I first played the game had me on the edge of my seat and I was ecstatic about what the ending would be like. I put the two races at peace, I got the Krogans and Turians to cooperate as one, Mercenary bands came together to fight under my command, and EVERY race was fighting for one goal. Now that I'm playing the game again I feel so hollow and angry. This in turn has fueled me to continue holding the line till Bioware is able to correct this mess of false hope and promises.


Weren't that 300Years? :mellow:


Probably, I can't really remeber but I'll change it ^_^

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Finished the game over a week ago, but didn't sign up to the forums until yesterday. Can't really add anything to the discussion that hasn't already been said, but I am trying to inform everyone I know who bought ME3 about the movement after they finished. I haven't come across anyone I know personally yet who wasn't disgusted by the horrible ending. Still lots of people left though and it could still be awhile before people find the time to finish. Most didn't have the free time that I did the week of release. Keep spreading the word guys. We'll do this.

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His name was Marauder Shields.

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RatedRRachel wrote...

Generic Name wrote...

The more I think about a potential new ending the more I want it to be like Serenity. Yes some of your crew die, but in the end you prevail and limp away to fight another day.


I'm a leaf on the wind - watch how I soar.

<3


:crying:

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JPN17 wrote...

Finished the game over a week ago, but didn't sign up to the forums until yesterday. Can't really add anything to the discussion that hasn't already been said, but I am trying to inform everyone I know who bought ME3 about the movement after they finished. I haven't come across anyone I know personally yet who wasn't disgusted by the horrible ending. Still lots of people left though and it could still be awhile before people find the time to finish. Most didn't have the free time that I did the week of release. Keep spreading the word guys. We'll do this.


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I've played through the game twice now and tried both endings, and to say I am very disappointed with the results is an understatement, I knew this was the end of the line for the Shep saga but giving us a choice and then have both endings the same is total crap, I don't see why Shep has to die, why can't Shep just go off with his/her LI to some far away planet and live out their remaining days in obscurity, once the  reapers are dealt with? I would have preferred to choose life or death for my Shep, as far as I can see it doesn't make any difference with "choice" you make at the end.  But I've also noticed the game plays differently if you import a character from ME2 than if you start a new character, which kind of sucked.  I loved the game but the ending was really bad, no such thing as a happy ending here.

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bigSarg wrote...

I've played through the game twice now and tried both endings, and to say I am very disappointed with the results is an understatement, I knew this was the end of the line for the Shep saga but giving us a choice and then have both endings the same is total crap, I don't see why Shep has to die, why can't Shep just go off with his/her LI to some far away planet and live out their remaining days in obscurity, once the  reapers are dealt with? I would have preferred to choose life or death for my Shep, as far as I can see it doesn't make any difference with "choice" you make at the end.  But I've also noticed the game plays differently if you import a character from ME2 than if you start a new character, which kind of sucked.  I loved the game but the ending was really bad, no such thing as a happy ending here.


you need to hold the line with us soldier. :mellow:

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Just got back anything happen in the last four or so hours

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I say... your choices and actions in the entire Mass Effect series do matter! Not because of the horrors of which we have already seen... nay!

But because of that which has yet remained unseen!

We shall not see things end this way! We shall not see the universe we have come to love end in such a way! Nor shall we see the relationships we have developed cease to matter! We shall succeed!

We shall not go quietly into the night! We shall not fail! We shall succeed!

We shall.. HOLD! THE! LINE!

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I think Bioware has moved on from

"Good ending? We've dismissed that claim"

to

"eh maybe"

Hold the line.

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Goikiu wrote...

Fox544 wrote...

Lakeshow1986 wrote...

How on earth does mass effect progress after the endings to ME3? That's my problem, with the relays destroyed in all endings, Ashley ending up on the Normandy when it crashes (even though she was on earth with me), no need for breathing equipment on the "citadel".

I think it's a good ending if it was some sort of mental test after the beam hits, and progresses from there. Fallout 3 comes to mind.

I just really wanted a conclusion like in ME1 and ME2, not all of these questions that are confusing.


Technically they COULD make a spin off featuring the rebuilding of the galaxy. Most likely though you'll see a spin off  of the First Contact war. Hell they could take the Halo Wars approach and make an RTS. There are many ways they can go, just none of them is what anyone wants.


A lot think that they want to make some SP dlc, after them Bioware will make an Ending DLC or ME4. :mellow:


Honestly, don't be shocked at a ME4 announcement. Its entirely possible we got this ending because Bioware/EA arn't ready to abandon the money train yet. Also there has been a twitter post about a week ago saying that Bioware was holding on to their save games wink wink.

Edit because its 1am.

Modifié par Fox544, 18 mars 2012 - 07:31 .


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infinitekilan wrote...

I say... your choices and actions in the entire Mass Effect series do matter! Not because of the horrors of which we have already seen... nay!

But because of that which has yet remained unseen!

We shall not see things end this way! We shall not see the universe we have come to love end in such a way! Nor shall we see the relationships we have developed cease to matter! We shall succeed!

We shall not go quietly into the night! We shall not fail! We shall succeed!

We shall.. HOLD! THE! LINE!


Here here, I can toast to that!

#42670
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Fox544 wrote...

Goikiu wrote...

A lot think that they want to make some SP dlc, after them Bioware will make an Ending DLC or ME4. :mellow:


Honestly, don't be shocked at a ME4 announcement. Its entirely possible we got this ending because Bioware/EA arn't ready to abandon the money train yet. Also there has been a twitter post about a week ago saying that Bioware was old on to their save games wink wink.


Yup, for that a lot of people (me too) are thinking that they'll make a Dlc (don't know if it's free or not) or ME4. :mellow:

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TheFinisher wrote...

His name was Marauder Shields.


Indeed it was, he died holding the line. Hes my hero

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HITMAN629 wrote...

TheFinisher wrote...

His name was Marauder Shields.


Indeed it was, he died holding the line. Hes my hero


You're hero have make a new HD foto -> 
http://30.media.tumb...rlnm8o1_400.jpg :wizard:

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Comrades, please pay a tiny bit of attention to this:

Here's something that may sound a little pedantic; but bear with me for a moment.

I believe we ought to limit our 'suggestions for change' to critiques of the utter lack of sense at the end. We should not be trying to come up with positive suggestions as to specific alternate endings. I don't think that they'll stop for a moment to look at fan requests for a specific ending: as plausible and well thought out our endings may sound to us, to them, they're all violations of the intricate balance of how the 'franchise' is to be marketed----we simply don't know how many novels, comics, spin-offs, etc. they have in store, all, in some way or another, connected with their 'vision' of the 'ending'.

Neither do I think, that they will pay much attention to purely subjective complaints----they made no promises as to how we would 'feel' about the end. They will not stop for a moment to consider what they might have done wrong, to frustrate the expectations of any particular group of fans, let alone individuals.

So. Our 'suggestions' have to be strictly impersonal, and they should pertain to the failings of the ending as a whole. They have to be 'negative', as opposed to specific 'positive' additions or changes.

I've said these before, but I'll say them again.

- We do not want the story of ME3 to come to an abrupt stop, at a Diabolus Ex Machina (the Starchild). We want events in the endgame to follow logically from previous events. We do not want to see the rules of the game changed in its final moments. To change the rules of a game is to change the game. We do not want to see an arbitrary----and radical----change in the Reapers' motivations, from what we know from ME1 and 2. We want to see our war assets actively contributing to the effort, having an impact in the course of events. We want the fate of our ship and crew to fit cogently in that course of events.

- We are not asking for further 'explanation' as to the appearance of the Starchild, the Mass Relays getting destroyed, and the Normandy getting stranded. The problem is not that we are failing to understand any of these. We are not asking BioWare to justify the ending as it stands. We do not think that this is possible. The protagonist of the endgame is utterly out of character, and he is in a state of complete disregard as to all that he has done since Eden Prime: We cannot recognize that person to be Shepard; he or she has to be an impostor. We ask that the final role of the Catalyst and the Crucible be rethought. Perhaps scrapped altogether.

- These are very general outlines, that make no 'positive' prescriptions; they rather lay out the necessary constraints under which BW ought to rewrite the end. We are not petitioning for any specific ending. We are petitioning only for an 'ending framework' that is logically sound.

BioWare's job should be to make that framework rock-solid, and give us the chance to 'write our bit of the end' in terms of it. That's ALL we are asking.

#42674
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Good morning everyone! Reporting in and...

Reposting this, EA/Bioware in Full PR Damage Control Mode:
http://social.biowar...ndex/10084349/1

Read it if you didn't do it already!

Keep civil and hold the line!

P.S. I really like the idea of a site where the protest can get organized properly. First thing we really need is a list of GENERIC points we want to get addressed (e.g. not asking for a happy ending with blue children, but at least for an ending without plothole and a deus ex machina plot twist). Many people, while proudly fighting for all of us, tend to express their concerns toward the "endings" in a excessively personal way. While this can work for threads as this one, we should try to generalize our concerns (even if it means accepting some of the things we want won't be there in a possible alternative ending), to be able to fight as one.

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I am not sure why a happier finale is considered less valid ending. I want a definitive victory/survive ending, an ending like ME1 and ME2 where you are jazzed for hours vs. depressed and angry for a week...