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[Caelorummors]

Little Miss Angel wrote...

An interesting read on how the ending makes absolutely no sense whatsoever:

http://tinyurl.com/7vfvopd

A lot of this is good stuff. Some if it is just simply wrong. Like the "limited utility" has nothing to do with making them into a reaper. The Metacong must have been destroyed by the Reapers as there are none in this cycle (Prothean synthetics). The creation of the first Reapers, as I made into a beautifully ignored story, was probably in response to the first Synthetics creating a reaper like dreadnaught like Legion discussed in ME2. Etc.

[Goikiu]

TumblingBumblebee wrote...

Good morning everyone! Reporting in and...

Reposting this, EA/Bioware in Full PR Damage Control Mode:
http://social.biowar...ndex/10084349/1

Read it if you didn't do it already!

Keep civil and hold the line!

P.S. I really like the idea of a site where the protest can get organized properly. First thing we really need is a list of GENERIC points we want to get addressed (e.g. not asking for a happy ending with blue children, but at least for an ending without plothole and a deus ex machina plot twist). Many people, while proudly fighting for all of us, tend to express their concerns toward the "endings" in a excessively personal way. While this can work for threads as this one, we should try to generalize our concerns (even if it means accepting some of the things we want won't be there in a possible alternative ending), to be able to fight as one.

I've made a General Resource Site, i can give all the data (images too) to the final site or i can modify my site as how the movement needs. 

[WvStolzing]

TumblingBumblebee wrote...
P.S. I really like the idea of a site where the protest can get organized properly. First thing we really need is a list of GENERIC points we want to get addressed (e.g. not asking for a happy ending with blue children, but at least for an ending without plothole and a deus ex machina plot twist). Many people, while proudly fighting for all of us, tend to express their concerns toward the "endings" in a excessively personal way. While this can work for threads as this one, we should try to generalize our concerns (even if it means accepting some of the things we want won't be there in a possible alternative ending), to be able to fight as one.

Thank the Goddess! I was trying to say the same thing in my previous post!!!

[VivaLaWhatsername]

Redwing198403 wrote...

I am not sure why a happier finale is considered less valid ending. I want a definitive victory/survive ending, an ending like ME1 and ME2 where you are jazzed for hours vs. depressed and angry for a week...

I want to repost this because I agree with it completely.

[Fox544]

Goikiu wrote...

Fox544 wrote...

Goikiu wrote...

A lot think that they want to make some SP dlc, after them Bioware will make an Ending DLC or ME4. 

Honestly, don't be shocked at a ME4 announcement. Its entirely possible we got this ending because Bioware/EA arn't ready to abandon the money train yet. Also there has been a twitter post about a week ago saying that Bioware was old on to their save games wink wink.

Yup, for that a lot of people (me too) are thinking that they'll make a Dlc (don't know if it's free or not) or ME4. 

I can't tell which I think is more likely to happen. Probably DLC that gears up for ME4 ala Arrival.

[Goikiu]

Fox544 wrote...

Goikiu wrote...

Fox544 wrote...

Goikiu wrote...

A lot think that they want to make some SP dlc, after them Bioware will make an Ending DLC or ME4. 

Honestly, don't be shocked at a ME4 announcement. Its entirely possible we got this ending because Bioware/EA arn't ready to abandon the money train yet. Also there has been a twitter post about a week ago saying that Bioware was old on to their save games wink wink.

Yup, for that a lot of people (me too) are thinking that they'll make a Dlc (don't know if it's free or not) or ME4. 

I can't tell which I think is more likely to happen. Probably DLC that gears up for ME4 ala Arrival.

Only the time will tell us something soldier, for now Hold the Line. 

[SuperTeal]

JustSaber wrote...

RatedRRachel wrote...

Generic Name wrote...

The more I think about a potential new ending the more I want it to be like Serenity. Yes some of your crew die, but in the end you prevail and limp away to fight another day.

I'm a leaf on the wind - watch how I soar.

<3

:crying::crying:

[KaiserinKai]

TamiBx wrote...

xHezz90 wrote...

Mr. Big Pimpin wrote...

Agreed =D I want to see Shepard with his LI in a happy ending  xD especially seeing as Tali is already picking out locations for her home with Shepard when you retake Rannoch

That's one thing that annoyed me about the endings. Throughout the game (hell, throughout the series), they give you plenty of opportunities to talk about the future, what you'll do after it's all over, etc. and then they just snatch it all away from you in the last 10 minutes.

Ditto on this


I want Shenko babies 

I want to retire somewhere warm and  tropical with Garrus and adopt some kids together

Modifié par KaiserinKai, 18 mars 2012 - 07:39 .

[Caelorummors]

Five years later, I lost hundreds of hours of meaning in the blink of an eye... and the world just ****ing watched.

[DifferentD17]

Fox544 wrote...

Goikiu wrote...

Fox544 wrote...

Goikiu wrote...

A lot think that they want to make some SP dlc, after them Bioware will make an Ending DLC or ME4. 

Honestly, don't be shocked at a ME4 announcement. Its entirely possible we got this ending because Bioware/EA arn't ready to abandon the money train yet. Also there has been a twitter post about a week ago saying that Bioware was old on to their save games wink wink.

Yup, for that a lot of people (me too) are thinking that they'll make a Dlc (don't know if it's free or not) or ME4. 

I can't tell which I think is more likely to happen. Probably DLC that gears up for ME4 ala Arrival.

I'm not waiting a year or more, so they can sell me another Arrival. In the long run Arrival didn't mean anything anyway. They mention it when you're on Earth and then they forget about it later. $7 wasted on 45 min of solo action. You know why it was solo? So they didn't have to pay voice actors to come back. If you noticed the ending of Arrival Shep calls for the Normandy, and you hear a generic voice say something like "coming in" and the next scene is with Joker Shep says we need to go. Joker uncharacteristicly  doesn't say anything. uhuh... and no one on your ship notices you were kidnapped for 2 days. Yeah ok...

/Rant

Modifié par DifferentD17, 18 mars 2012 - 07:40 .

[Fulgrim88]

Morning folks!
Reporting back in.

Anything new?

[sumo390]

Caelorummors wrote...

Five years later, I lost hundreds of hours of meaning in the blink of an eye... and the world just ****ing watched.

And Bioware said "lol build shepards legend with omega dlc!!!"

[ld1449]

There wont be an ME4 I mean really what the hell is the plot gonna be about??? We've had three games of fighting reapers, they're no longer a threat, with these endings anyway.

So if they keep these endings they essentially shot themselves in the foot for ME4. If they make a DLC that has Shepard beat the crap out of the reapers on earth. THEN you MIGHT have an ME4 that's a full on galactic war/offensive against the Reapers. Fighting them through conventional means. Since the MASS RELAYS are still INTACT and under your control then, unlike the Protheans and virtually every race before them the galaxy is not, infact, cut off from one another. So they don't need to face the reapers with each system cut off from the other. They can rally, maneuver and counter attack/organize a real resistance against them. It'll be an uphill battle to be sure. But one thing the galactic organics have over the reapers is numbers.

Every Reaper destroyed is one less asset that they cannot get back. Their numbers are finite, Organics can replenish their numbers, and with galactic comunication and travel still possible this cycle has a much bigger chance of wearing the reapers down.

But anyway, back to the real point. Fix ending DLC is required to fix this no matter wether or not ME3 is the end, or not. Hell its doubly necesary if they're gonna do an ME4

[Aryana70]

Hey ppl,
Just thought i would share this little comment that was made to me on Youtube because I commented on a Mass effect 3 video, voicing that i thought the ending sucked....the guy is now full on attacking me for my opnion....let know what you think:

all the people who hate the ending cause shepard die in 2 of the 3 endings, are so girls or dudes wht small dick...its like the movies who always win the more prestige prices(not talkin 'bout the oscars here, cause thats a pile of bull****) most of the time, the good guy die, well, this game can be classified in the same categorie level in term of storyline, you'll see,maybe you too young now but eventually, youll see that the good people around you die,and the game is no different.
If you want to see the comments they are on a vid called "Mass Effect 3 Disappoints, Hope for DLC, and the Future of Mass Effect"

[DifferentD17]

ld1449 wrote...

There wont be an ME4 I mean really what the hell is the plot gonna be about??? We've had three games of fighting reapers, they're no longer a threat, with these endings anyway.

So if they keep these endings they essentially shot themselves in the foot for ME4. If they make a DLC that has Shepard beat the crap out of the reapers on earth. THEN you MIGHT have an ME4 that's a full on galactic war/offensive against the Reapers. Fighting them through conventional means. Since the MASS RELAYS are still INTACT and under your control then, unlike the Protheans and virtually every race before them the galaxy is not, infact, cut off from one another. So they don't need to face the reapers with each system cut off from the other. They can rally, maneuver and counter attack/organize a real resistance against them. It'll be an uphill battle to be sure. But one thing the galactic organics have over the reapers is numbers.

Every Reaper destroyed is one less asset that they cannot get back. Their numbers are finite, Organics can replenish their numbers, and with galactic comunication and travel still possible this cycle has a much bigger chance of wearing the reapers down.

But anyway, back to the real point. Fix ending DLC is required to fix this no matter wether or not ME3 is the end, or not. Hell its doubly necesary if they're gonna do an ME4

ME MMO!

can't wait.../sarcasm

[ArmyKnifeX]

 

ArmyKnifeX wrote...

We hold grievances with the current ending and EA/BioWare because:

• The game's ending fails to meet what we were promised as consumers.

• The game's ending fails to meet our expectations as fans.

• The response from BioWare needs to change.

• We have jobs, families, responsibilities. We dedicate our time to this cause because we genuinely care about Mass Effect and its story.

• We want to see a product that we, as human beings, as consumers, as fans, and as players can be proud of.

Retake Mass Effect 3 - Hold the line. 

This is our collective mission statement.

Spread the word. Use it in emails, forum posts, criticisms. Stand by it.

The thread is here:
http://social.biowar.../index/10146448 
Show your support in the poll here:
http://social.biowar...25/polls/29868/ 

[Sparrowhawke]

I remember standing on Illos, chills running down my spine. I could smell the ancient stone and feel the aching depth of the stars. I remember bringing my people home from the suicide mission. I made mistakes on Torfan, I wouldn't let that happen again.

I remember promising her little blue children, maybe a quiet retirement in Ahern's old place.

I'm with you, fleets of Earth. I'll hold the line.

[Fox544]

DifferentD17 wrote...

Fox544 wrote...

Goikiu wrote...

Fox544 wrote...

Goikiu wrote...

A lot think that they want to make some SP dlc, after them Bioware will make an Ending DLC or ME4. 

Honestly, don't be shocked at a ME4 announcement. Its entirely possible we got this ending because Bioware/EA arn't ready to abandon the money train yet. Also there has been a twitter post about a week ago saying that Bioware was old on to their save games wink wink.

Yup, for that a lot of people (me too) are thinking that they'll make a Dlc (don't know if it's free or not) or ME4. 

I can't tell which I think is more likely to happen. Probably DLC that gears up for ME4 ala Arrival.

I'm not waiting a year or more, so they can sell me another Arrival. In the long run Arrival didn't mean anything anyway. They mention it when you're on Earth and then they forget about it later. $7 wasted on 45 min of solo action. You know why it was solo? So they didn't have to pay voice actors to come back. If you noticed the ending of Arrival Shep calls for the Normandy, and you hear a generic voice say something like "coming in" and the next scene is with Joker Shep says we need to go. Joker uncharacteristicly  doesn't say anything. uhuh... and no one on your ship notices you were kidnapped for 2 days. Yeah ok...

/Rant

lol I never said it was a GOOD idea. At best its just an idea. Yeah Arrival was more like an interactive story than an actual expansion. It was meant to foreshadow ME3 and not really add anything else.

[Mortensus]

ld1449 wrote...

There wont be an ME4 I mean really what the hell is the plot gonna be about??? We've had three games of fighting reapers, they're no longer a threat, with these endings anyway.

So if they keep these endings they essentially shot themselves in the foot for ME4. If they make a DLC that has Shepard beat the crap out of the reapers on earth. THEN you MIGHT have an ME4 that's a full on galactic war/offensive against the Reapers. Fighting them through conventional means. Since the MASS RELAYS are still INTACT and under your control then, unlike the Protheans and virtually every race before them the galaxy is not, infact, cut off from one another. So they don't need to face the reapers with each system cut off from the other. They can rally, maneuver and counter attack/organize a real resistance against them. It'll be an uphill battle to be sure. But one thing the galactic organics have over the reapers is numbers.

Every Reaper destroyed is one less asset that they cannot get back. Their numbers are finite, Organics can replenish their numbers, and with galactic comunication and travel still possible this cycle has a much bigger chance of wearing the reapers down.

But anyway, back to the real point. Fix ending DLC is required to fix this no matter wether or not ME3 is the end, or not. Hell its doubly necesary if they're gonna do an ME4

eh maybe they will sell us something like a simscity where you have to rebuild the various planets, building new roads, tracks, etc etc lol. At this point, everything is possible :innocent:

[Goikiu]

Aryana70 wrote...

Hey ppl,
Just thought i would share this little comment that was made to me on Youtube because I commented on a Mass effect 3 video, voicing that i thought the ending sucked....the guy is now full on attacking me for my opnion....let know what you think:

all the people who hate the ending cause shepard die in 2 of the 3 endings, are so girls or dudes wht small dick...its like the movies who always win the more prestige prices(not talkin 'bout the oscars here, cause thats a pile of bull****) most of the time, the good guy die, well, this game can be classified in the same categorie level in term of storyline, you'll see,maybe you too young now but eventually, youll see that the good people around you die,and the game is no different.
If you want to see the comments they are on a vid called "Mass Effect 3 Disappoints, Hope for DLC, and the Future of Mass Effect"

1) I do not play MP so i cannot have the "surviving" ending. 
2) Nothing to say, he doesn't know anything about the movement, he needs to read a lot before talk, so he need to go and play with blinded on an highway. 

[Fulgrim88]

ld1449 wrote...

There wont be an ME4 I mean really what the hell is the plot gonna be about??? We've had three games of fighting reapers, they're no longer a threat, with these endings anyway.

Oh I really wouldn't mind ME4 being about something else than fighting Reapers for once.

The Mass Effect universe offers enough to tell a good story...or at least it used to.

The Reason why they shot themselves in the foot with ME4, is, that the Universe that we've grown to love is gone.
No more Mass Relays means no more galactic community. Just small clusters of isolated worlds, fighting for survival.
It won't feel like Mass Effect anymore.

But I somehow fear that the reason behind the shockingly similiar endings was, that they are indeed planning to do ME4 and for the story they have in mind for that, they need the Mass Relays destroyed and they need the Normandy to crash etc.

[VivaLaWhatsername]

Aryana70 wrote...

Hey ppl,
Just thought i would share this little comment that was made to me on Youtube because I commented on a Mass effect 3 video, voicing that i thought the ending sucked....the guy is now full on attacking me for my opnion....let know what you think:

all the people who hate the ending cause shepard die in 2 of the 3 endings, are so girls or dudes wht small dick...its like the movies who always win the more prestige prices(not talkin 'bout the oscars here, cause thats a pile of bull****) most of the time, the good guy die, well, this game can be classified in the same categorie level in term of storyline, you'll see,maybe you too young now but eventually, youll see that the good people around you die,and the game is no different.
If you want to see the comments they are on a vid called "Mass Effect 3 Disappoints, Hope for DLC, and the Future of Mass Effect"

Just ignore him, youtube is troll heaven. Infact I would go as far to say it should be changed to TrollTube lol. Seriously though on youtube your opinion is going to be attacked no matter what you say.

[Esker02]

ld1449 wrote...

There wont be an ME4 I mean really what the hell is the plot gonna be about??? We've had three games of fighting reapers, they're no longer a threat, with these endings anyway.

That's not the problem. The problem is that it destroys the relays, and the galactic community along with it (i.e. everything we care about in the Mass Effect universe). There are PLENTY of stories that can unfold without the reapers, particularly if they canonize some of the potential outcomes of conflicts in this game (Krogan, Geth & Quarians, etc). Or heck, they can always invent new stories, new discoveries, tell us about new species.

But no mass relays means no contact, and thus no new stories. The ending hurts in so many ways... so. many. ways.... but this is one of my biggest problems, personally.

[DifferentD17]

Fox544 wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

Fox544 wrote...

I can't tell which I think is more likely to happen. Probably DLC that gears up for ME4 ala Arrival.

I'm not waiting a year or more, so they can sell me another Arrival. In the long run Arrival didn't mean anything anyway. They mention it when you're on Earth and then they forget about it later. $7 wasted on 45 min of solo action. You know why it was solo? So they didn't have to pay voice actors to come back. If you noticed the ending of Arrival Shep calls for the Normandy, and you hear a generic voice say something like "coming in" and the next scene is with Joker Shep says we need to go. Joker uncharacteristicly  doesn't say anything. uhuh... and no one on your ship notices you were kidnapped for 2 days. Yeah ok...

/Rant

lol I never said it was a GOOD idea. At best its just an idea. Yeah Arrival was more like an interactive story than an actual expansion. It was meant to foreshadow ME3 and not really add anything else.

Just the thought of another DLC like Arrival makes me so angry.
It didn't even do that well since they didn't have a real trial or anything. You can't even put the blame on someone else since it wasn't your fault anyway.

[sizuka2]

Is this thread going to hit 2000 pages? And that with new threads about how the ending is bad being made so quickly nothing stays on the first page for more than five minutes?

Along with sales metrics, I'd love to see what the EA PR people are using for metrics of outrage. This has to be... unusual.