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[TheBull]

BlackDevil06 wrote...

Benirus wrote...
 Okey, even with the ending I still love mass effect 3, thats why I'm doing this. And that Kane and Lynch 2 comparison is just insulting.

Hold the line!

Can someone give me the heads up about the Kane & lynch 2 ending? I never played the first part or the second.

the game ends after 4 hours and the ending is just nonsensical
thats basically the gist of it

[Alikan]

Benirus wrote...

BlackDevil06 wrote...

Benirus wrote...
 Okey, even with the ending I still love mass effect 3, thats why I'm doing this. And that Kane and Lynch 2 comparison is just insulting.

Hold the line!

Can someone give me the heads up about the Kane & lynch 2 ending? I never played the first part or the second.

The final boss is two dogs... nuff said. I could smell the stench from a mile away so I stayed clear. A friend was unfortunatly not that fortunate.

Well...the final boss in ME3 is Marauder Shields...so.....

[ArmyKnifeX]

DarthKilby wrote...

naes1984 wrote...

4:15 am in Phoenix. Just woke up. Holding line... now going back to bed.

415? How is that... Wait, you guys don't follow Daylight Savings huh?

We have an awkward week or two where we like to be AMERICA THE PLACE THAT STOPS HAVING DAyLIGHT SAVINGS EARLY!

It's one of the few things we can honestly say we're first in the world at.

Modifié par ArmyKnifeX, 18 mars 2012 - 11:18 .

[MstrJedi Kyle]

Alikan wrote...

Benirus wrote...

BlackDevil06 wrote...

Benirus wrote...
 Okey, even with the ending I still love mass effect 3, thats why I'm doing this. And that Kane and Lynch 2 comparison is just insulting.

Hold the line!

Can someone give me the heads up about the Kane & lynch 2 ending? I never played the first part or the second.

The final boss is two dogs... nuff said. I could smell the stench from a mile away so I stayed clear. A friend was unfortunatly not that fortunate.

Well...the final boss in ME3 is Marauder Shields...so.....

And I so wanted that epic final battle with Harbinger. How could they not give a final boss fight? Saren and the human reaper (although the reaper was a little weird) were both intense and made you forget to breathe

[Xyalon]

ArmyKnifeX wrote...

Xyalon wrote...

They have said that they will be releasing MP DLC already. In all honesty that's pretty much a given regardless of the endings if they want to maintain a multiplayer base. People will eventually get bored with it otherwise; they won't have ignored the MP dominance of other games and their reliance on MP DLC.

I'm just hoping that they will realise that companies have been destroyed for treating their loyal supporters like with disrespect.

The presence of MP is entirely the giant hand of EA. Games like ME2, ME1, Skyrim, have all shown that single-player experiences can be just as compelling and sink just as much time as multiplayer ones. However, a lot of investors and suites who don't really understand games or the industry think that hot multiplayer games like MW3 are what EVERYBODY wants and EVERYBODY wants to play and are required for successful games with mainstream appeal.

While ignoring actual data. It's what business people are good at.

While agreeing with everything you say, I do actually quite like the MP aspect of ME3. Some of the battles are pretty intense and you can get quite a big feeling of camaraderie, while not completely detracting from the original SP campaign.

Admittedly I had hopes for co-op missions with slightly more....juice. For example maps and missions that would play differently, mechanics wise, depending on the make up of the squad. Base assaults where an engineer can hack the doors or turrets allowing you to bypass some parts, but leading you to different situations to deal with etc. Not just running around shooting everything you see (because FF doesn't exist).

While the MP is good fun, the mechanics of it really show that it was the reason why the game fell off the fence into the TPS genre rather than the comfortable mix for TPS and RPG.

[MeldarthX]

Experimentel wrote...

Spanking Machine wrote...

I feel tremendously more hopeful now than I did last Tuesday when I completed the game. Seeing so many people displaying such dedication is really just amazing, and at this point I really can't imagine how Bioware can fail to give the game the ending it deserves.

There are a lot of people here that will probably lose all faith in Bioware if they refuse to change the ending. They have the potential to lose a lot of customers that way. I feel like they know that's a dangerous deflection right there. 

I wouldn't say its a deflection - it is a stall tatic.  Yes it is a dangerous one - information posted in the PR damage sub - everything BW/EA is going by the book.....

The problem is for BW/EA, we're not playing by their rules anymore - old PR rules are out the window - They expected some fans to be disappointed.  We've outmanuvored them in every turn.  That's why their messages have changed quickly.  EA wants this solved fast. - I think they even talked about a more expanded ending if needed; or as my theory I've thrown out..........They were trying to indoctrinate not just shepard but us.......forcing us to make decisions we'd never do as Shepard...........Its insane and also could be brillant if done right. 

Problem is - BW didn't expect 80%+ to straight out hate the ending.  They didn't expect to organize so quickly - so effectively.  They didn't expect us to stay civil; respectful and raise money for such an awesome charity.  When day one DLC got heard - there was a lot ticked off.  Didn't send the right message; didn't mean BW just out for another buck; but it wasn't cool either.

Then the ending - we've organized - we're world wide in same voice - kinda like the ending - slight variations but all say the same thing.  Give us an ending that doesn't suck - Give us an ending that is worthy of ME universe.

Then came the leak about multiplayer DLC - its been roundablely confirmed.  A little later - same person that leaked multiplayer DLC also leaked - the endings were done like this because of the leak back in November and real endings called "The Truth" will be coming out in April or May as free DLC.

This rumor - I've felt there was a lot of truth to it.  Just a gut feeling - either or not its actually true we'll see.  Even if its not.......

WE HOLD THE LINE - until it is.

[TumblingBumblebee]

Apfelweinbrauer wrote...

Hi gyus, couldn't go online the whole weekend...

Anything new so far since friday, a statement from BioWare maybe?

Nothing really worth mentioning, but you should read this:

EA/Bioware in Full PR Damage Control Mode:
http://social.biowar...ndex/10084349/1

I'ts incredibly interesting and give good insight of what's going on at Bioware/EA.

Keep civil and hold the line!

[Iucounou]

Alikan wrote...

Benirus wrote...

BlackDevil06 wrote...

Benirus wrote...
 Okey, even with the ending I still love mass effect 3, thats why I'm doing this. And that Kane and Lynch 2 comparison is just insulting.

Hold the line!

Can someone give me the heads up about the Kane & lynch 2 ending? I never played the first part or the second.

The final boss is two dogs... nuff said. I could smell the stench from a mile away so I stayed clear. A friend was unfortunatly not that fortunate.

Well...the final boss in ME3 is Marauder Shields...so.....

Don't forget the Husk trio! Looking back, I'm sure they were emergency medical techs coming to help my squadmates.....and I murdered them!

[Elanor]

DarthKilby wrote...

Alikan wrote...

Benirus wrote...

BlackDevil06 wrote...

Benirus wrote...
 Okey, even with the ending I still love mass effect 3, thats why I'm doing this. And that Kane and Lynch 2 comparison is just insulting.

Hold the line!

Can someone give me the heads up about the Kane & lynch 2 ending? I never played the first part or the second.

The final boss is two dogs... nuff said. I could smell the stench from a mile away so I stayed clear. A friend was unfortunatly not that fortunate.

Well...the final boss in ME3 is Marauder Shields...so.....

And I so wanted that epic final battle with Harbinger. How could they not give a final boss fight? Saren and the human reaper (although the reaper was a little weird) were both intense and made you forget to breathe

We never forget about Marauder Shields. xD

Hold the line.

[BlackDevil06]

TheBull wrote...


the game ends after 4 hours and the ending is just nonsensical
thats basically the gist of it

Ah, so a ME3 ending?

[ArmyKnifeX]

Xyalon wrote...
While agreeing with everything you say, I do actually quite like the MP aspect of ME3. Some of the battles are pretty intense and you can get quite a big feeling of camaraderie, while not completely detracting from the original SP campaign.

Admittedly I had hopes for co-op missions with slightly more....juice. For example maps and missions that would play differently, mechanics wise, depending on the make up of the squad. Base assaults where an engineer can hack the doors or turrets allowing you to bypass some parts, but leading you to different situations to deal with etc. Not just running around shooting everything you see (because FF doesn't exist).

While the MP is good fun, the mechanics of it really show that it was the reason why the game fell off the fence into the TPS genre rather than the comfortable mix for TPS and RPG.

I'm not saying the MP was poorly done, I'm just saying it's alien given the franchise and not necessarily a welcome addition when you realize the time and effort that went into MP could have, and should have, gone into resolving the plot and our choices.

For what it's worth, the shooter-ness of this game feels far smoother than ME1 or ME2, and playing ME2 I really miss the heavy melees and the ability to dive.

Also, it's easy to break the multiplayer netcode if there's even an inkling of lag and you play a Vanguard. If you boost your biotic charge's cooldown and carry only an SMG or lightweight stuff, then combine it with the Nova ability that reduces ability cooldowns when activated... you can biotic charge something like every 1.5 seconds and gain full barrier while doing so. If you charge enough, your position keeping starts to fail and you can end up floating up into the skybox indefinitely with no way of getting down.

So yeah, turns out it has some serious bugs too.

Money would've been far better spent on the ending.

[xcomcmdr]

Doomed Avatar wrote...

The last 10 minutes of ME 3 are so disappointing. Apart of the story and the "magical" stuff, the whole game is epic and inspiring. Then, you arrive at the Citadel, and all become some kind of "anti-climax" situation. And that's the bigger problem of the ending, there is no climax, and the player feels that the final sequence has no strength as the rest of the game has.
Not only that, only three options, bad written, bad realized and all of them condemn the galaxy to a new stone age in the best of the cases. That's not an ending for me and my Shepard, guys. And i made my choices in order to avoid the destruction of the galaxy.

So, i'm here holding the line.

Just finished the game too :

- Critical Mission Failure A,Critical Mission Failure B,Critical Mission Failure C. That's your choice.
- no climax
- no closure
- bad writing
- epic fail at logic ("we destroy organics to save them from synthetics destroying them"). Or is it troll logic ?
- depressing
- here comes stone age !
- I could go on and on about how much it's full of BS.


Hold the line !

Modifié par xcomcmdr, 18 mars 2012 - 11:28 .

[Doomed Avatar]

ArmyKnifeX wrote...

Xyalon wrote...

They have said that they will be releasing MP DLC already. In all honesty that's pretty much a given regardless of the endings if they want to maintain a multiplayer base. People will eventually get bored with it otherwise; they won't have ignored the MP dominance of other games and their reliance on MP DLC.

I'm just hoping that they will realise that companies have been destroyed for treating their loyal supporters like with disrespect.

The presence of MP is entirely the giant hand of EA. Games like ME2, ME1, Skyrim, have all shown that single-player experiences can be just as compelling and sink just as much time as multiplayer ones. However, a lot of investors and suites who don't really understand games or the industry think that hot multiplayer games like MW3 are what EVERYBODY wants and EVERYBODY wants to play and are required for successful games with mainstream appeal.

While ignoring actual data. It's what business people are good at.

The question is, how many resources of the singleplayer have they spent in order to make the multiplayer? 

[Thore2k10]

Gi-Joe-Ge wrote...


There is a poll at one of the leading German PC games magazines "Gamestar".

http://www.gamestar....id=842&pk=13537

More than 50% polled for "The ending has destroyed the franchise" and almost 10% are at least disappointed. More than 24% haven't finished the game yet. Around 14k participants so far.

i was worried about this one, cause it was actually decreasing from 34 to 32% a few days ago.... seems like a lot of players like us finished it since then

[ArmyKnifeX]

Doomed Avatar wrote...
The question is, how many resources of the singleplayer have they spent in order to make the multiplayer? 

I believe I can answer your question with exacting precision.

Too many.

[TheBull]

BlackDevil06 wrote...

TheBull wrote...


the game ends after 4 hours and the ending is just nonsensical
thats basically the gist of it

Ah, so a ME3 ending?

Well lets say no one made a large outcry with Kane and Lynch because the franchise is not worth saving

[VivaLaWhatsername]

ArmyKnifeX wrote...

Doomed Avatar wrote...
The question is, how many resources of the singleplayer have they spent in order to make the multiplayer? 

I believe I can answer your question with exacting precision.

Too many.

Wasn't MP done by a completely different team?

[Iucounou]

Someone last night was wondering about how this fiasco might impact the Mass Effect movie. To be honest, I think it's done it a lot of good.

The ME movie might be the first game/movie conversion to actual be better than the product it was based on. Let's be honest, it could hardly be worse!

[ArmyKnifeX]

xHezz90 wrote...

ArmyKnifeX wrote...

Doomed Avatar wrote...
The question is, how many resources of the singleplayer have they spent in order to make the multiplayer? 

I believe I can answer your question with exacting precision.

Too many.

Wasn't MP done by a completely different team?

If it was still done by BioWare, that's still a team that could've been repurposed. If it was done out of house, that's money that could've been spent in-house.

[MstrJedi Kyle]

xHezz90 wrote...

ArmyKnifeX wrote...

Doomed Avatar wrote...
The question is, how many resources of the singleplayer have they spent in order to make the multiplayer? 

I believe I can answer your question with exacting precision.

Too many.

Wasn't MP done by a completely different team?

I think so. I think it was done by the team in uhh... Texas? I think? With help from Dice. At least thats what I heard

[chujwamdotego]

MeldarthX wrote...


Then came the leak about multiplayer DLC - its been roundablely confirmed.  A little later - same person that leaked multiplayer DLC also leaked - the endings were done like this because of the leak back in November and real endings called "The Truth" will be coming out in April or May as free DLC.

I do not know if Bioware has the luxury of keeping us waiting till May....

[TheBull]

Iucounou wrote...

Someone last night was wondering about how this fiasco might impact the Mass Effect movie. To be honest, I think it's done it a lot of good.

The ME movie might be the first game/movie conversion to actual be better than the product it was based on. Let's be honest, it could hardly be worse!

Have you seen UWE BOLLS movies??????!!!!!!
Far Cry, House of the Dead, Alone in the Dark, Postal??!!!
or the entire Resident Evil Franchise made by Paul Anderson??!!!!!

Modifié par TheBull, 18 mars 2012 - 11:32 .

[MstrJedi Kyle]

chujwamdotego wrote...

MeldarthX wrote...


Then came the leak about multiplayer DLC - its been roundablely confirmed.  A little later - same person that leaked multiplayer DLC also leaked - the endings were done like this because of the leak back in November and real endings called "The Truth" will be coming out in April or May as free DLC.

I do not know if Bioware has the luxury of keeping us waiting till May....

If they get it together and actually give us a concrete Yes, I'm sure we can wait

[Fulgrim88]

Iucounou wrote...

Someone last night was wondering about how this fiasco might impact the Mass Effect movie. To be honest, I think it's done it a lot of good.

The ME movie might be the first game/movie conversion to actual be better than the product it was based on. Let's be honest, it could hardly be worse!

Problem is, Mass Effect was good.
Even Mass Effect 3.

There's a whole lot the movie could screw up in that regard.

I actually quite like the Kane & Lynch comparison. If a game in itself is"meh", the ending might as well be crappy. I enjoyed Kane & Lynch, saw the ending, shrugged and moved on.

What make's ME3's ending so horrible is that something that should've been their crowning achievement, the icing on an already delicious cake, is instead taking a stinking dump on it

Modifié par Fulgrim88, 18 mars 2012 - 11:34 .