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Misterdde45000

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Gi-Joe-Ge wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

i just beat the game again and got the shepard is alive ending

i have a theory

...Indoctrination Theory...


That is the indoctrinaiton theory, which is the straw we are holding on to. If this turns out to be true it would allow the ME series the ending that it deserves through a DLC.



If it turns out to be wrong... Well they will just have to pretend it was their plan to begin with :3

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Tazzmission wrote...

tbh i like this idea of kind of having the gamer think on there own because alot of people are in fact creative when it comes to fan fictions


im not saying im great but i like a challenge sometimes ill win sometimes ill fail badly either way it chalenges me from a creative standpoint.

i think thats why i cant force myself to hate the endings at all honestly


The only problem with that is if it's not a hallucination the whole galaxy is ruined, and if it is a hallucination then you have to think of almost everything that happens next.

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xHezz90 wrote...

 I'm curious....are these the same planet? they look similar to me...but I dunno, I really am just curious I had  a thought about it last night and it's been bugging me is all *shrug*

http://i1192.photobu...90/f869abd6.jpg

http://i1192.photobu...90/c4f143e5.jpg

Possible, I noticed the same thing. But if that is true the whole "humans rediscover intersteller travel, becaus we can see humans on another planet thats not earth in the future" argument is totaly borked. Also it means that if those humans are decendants of the normandy crew they are inbred like hell and there is no hope for the non-human crew members except Liara....

/facepalm

Hold the line! This won't do!

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xHezz90 wrote...

 I'm curious....are these the same planet? they look similar to me...but I dunno, I really am just curious I had  a thought about it last night and it's been bugging me is all *shrug*

http://i1192.photobu...90/f869abd6.jpg

http://i1192.photobu...90/c4f143e5.jpg


http://img401.images...endingzorya.jpg <--- ME2 Zaeed mission planet... Image IPB

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Imagine for a moment that you buy a brand new TV. The image is wonderful and the sound is amazing but, after a while, you find that you can't plug your DVD, making all the movies that you've been getting for the last years pointless and worthless because your new TV can't play them. Besides that, and after a few days, you start seeing some dead pixels on the screen.

That's exactly what happens with ME3. It's a great and enjoyable game until you get to the last ten minutes. Then you find out that everything you've done in the last years is just pointless, and all you get is an "ending" (yes, singular) full of plot holes and inconsistencies.

In the example, I would ask for a proper working TV. That's why I'm here, with you all, politely asking for a proper end for the Mass Effect series. An end worth of this wonderful franchise. It's a reasonable request, isn't it?

I will keep holding the line with you, folks, until we get what we're asking for.

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Benirus wrote...

xHezz90 wrote...

 I'm curious....are these the same planet? they look similar to me...but I dunno, I really am just curious I had  a thought about it last night and it's been bugging me is all *shrug*

http://i1192.photobu...90/f869abd6.jpg

http://i1192.photobu...90/c4f143e5.jpg

Possible, I noticed the same thing. But if that is true the whole "humans rediscover intersteller travel, becaus we can see humans on another planet thats not earth in the future" argument is totaly borked. Also it means that if those humans are decendants of the normandy crew they are inbred like hell and there is no hope for the non-human crew members except Liara....

/facepalm

Hold the line! This won't do!


Yeah...being inbreds would explain a lot though lol nah just kidding, but thanks for the response it actually sadly kept me awake last night.

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Welsh reservist back on the line, anyone new to this thread please note my sig.

Hope everyone is in good spirits today, we've still got the rest of the weekend to go, be steadfast but above all be civil.

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Just woke up. Taking position at the line.
For our LI's.
For Galaxy's fate.
For Marauder Shield!

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Tazzmission

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Misterdde45000 wrote...

Gi-Joe-Ge wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

i just beat the game again and got the shepard is alive ending

i have a theory

...Indoctrination Theory...


That is the indoctrinaiton theory, which is the straw we are holding on to. If this turns out to be true it would allow the ME series the ending that it deserves through a DLC.



If it turns out to be wrong... Well they will just have to pretend it was their plan to begin with :3


personally i dont think it is

i dont know if you saw the article but it was revealed that such a thing was in fact cut from the game last minute do to being rushed

if anything bioware may release it as a free dlc like rumors suggest

all i can say is we probably wont hear anything on it till like mid april early may the most

and who knows they may even throw in drews dark energy ending that was ** scrapped**

people just need to be patient

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Xyalon wrote...

Repliku wrote...

ArmyKnifeX wrote...

Doomed Avatar wrote...
The question is, how many resources of the singleplayer have they spent in order to make the multiplayer? 


I believe I can answer your question with exacting precision.

Too many.


Well, a seperated team made the Multiplayer part, but then again, these resources could have been invested in the singleplayer development...


Indeed.

Remember that Resources doesn't just mean time and money, it also means people. 

Hell, if they wanted to introduce a MP aspect they could have set up the groundwork for it, then focused on finishing the SP campaign to resemble something like what they promised, released it and said "Multiplayer coming soon, both free and paid for DLC". Then the resources used on MP could have sped up production for SP and, once done, resources for SP could help MP get put out asap.

Would have worked better that way.


I agree, the multiplayer is a secondary option in a singleplayer game. The MP is fun and a good extra, but it is very limited. It would have been a good DLC, but maybe Bioware and I have different points of view, because I refuse to think that Bioware wanted this ending for his flagship.

Maybe they put the "real ending" in a DLC (if the ending we have now isn't the real ending) as an antipiracy measure. But, what happen with the people that can't access the internet?.

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VivaLaWhatsername

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MordiMoro wrote...

xHezz90 wrote...

 I'm curious....are these the same planet? they look similar to me...but I dunno, I really am just curious I had  a thought about it last night and it's been bugging me is all *shrug*

http://i1192.photobu...90/f869abd6.jpg

http://i1192.photobu...90/c4f143e5.jpg


http://img401.images...endingzorya.jpg <--- ME2 Zaeed mission planet... Image IPB


Ha! there goes that theory...well unless of course the land on that planet? oh man it doesn't even matter I was just curious when I noticed the similarities

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Xyalon

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xHezz90 wrote...

 I'm curious....are these the same planet? they look similar to me...but I dunno, I really am just curious I had  a thought about it last night and it's been bugging me is all *shrug*

http://i1192.photobu...90/f869abd6.jpg

http://i1192.photobu...90/c4f143e5.jpg


Yes, they probably are. The larger and smaller planets in the sky would not stay stationary in the sky unless tidally locked to the planet we see Stargazer/Normandy on. This would then imply a geosynchronous orbit of 3 individual planets/planetoids which wouldn't really work very well.

The more I look at the image, however, the more I am inclined to believe that the Stargazer/Normandy "planet" is more of an atmosphered satellite, like a forest moon, due to the size of the larger of the two "moons" and the fact that there is obviously some sort of organic life on said "moon".

The only thing I can think of would be that the Normandy/Stargazer "planet" and the larger "moon" are in fact both roughly the same size and are in fact in orbit around each other, or rather around where the center of mass would be if they were joined. A binary planet system instead of a binary star system if you will. The smaller moon could possibly then orbit them in a bizarre figure of 8 cycle. They are definitely seem close enough to share an atmosphere :P

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Misterdde45000 wrote...

Gi-Joe-Ge wrote...

That is the indoctrinaiton theory, which is the straw we are holding on to. If this turns out to be true it would allow the ME series the ending that it deserves through a DLC.


If it turns out to be wrong... Well they will just have to pretend it was their plan to begin with :3


If I were EA/BW I would do exactly that.

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DJBare wrote...

Welsh reservist back on the line, anyone new to this thread please note my sig.

Hope everyone is in good spirits today, we've still got the rest of the weekend to go, be steadfast but above all be civil.


Bore da.

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Any news from Japan?

Any news from BW?

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Cake reporting in for duty!

Anything happen while I was asleep?

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reporting back in

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I'm still of the opinion that this was all Bioware/EA's plan all along. To sell us a game and then sell us the end later on.

They just didn't think we'd be this angry about it.

If they had said upfront "The game has an unusual ending." I might have let them off. But they sold it as a conclusion to Shepard's story. The implication was that the game would conclude the story, not some DLC a ways down the line.

The cynicism of that decision - That we'd all be fine with that and it wasn't a problem - is what galls me the most. It says to me that they see us as little more than cash cows, to be milked dry.

That they won't just come out and say something honest right now, tells me that they don't know how to deal with this. They tried to scam us and they are being called to account for it.

Don't let them get away with it.

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mr.surv wrote...

Any news from Japan?

Any news from BW?


Nope nothing

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mCorfe wrote...

Just woke up. Taking position at the line.
For our LI's.
For Galaxy's fate.
For Marauder Shield!

We shouldn't forget the 3 Husketeers.

Marauder Shields was not alone! ;)

And neither are we.

Modifié par Fulgrim88, 18 mars 2012 - 11:55 .


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Xyalon

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I think I've finally put together the High Art argument used in favour of the endings.

If he had anything to do with it then I'm not surprised why we were all left with a bit of "eh?" at the end.

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Tazzmission wrote...

personally i dont think it is

i dont know if you saw the article but it was revealed that such a thing was in fact cut from the game last minute do to being rushed

if anything bioware may release it as a free dlc like rumors suggest

all i can say is we probably wont hear anything on it till like mid april early may the most

and who knows they may even throw in drews dark energy ending that was ** scrapped**

people just need to be patient


I'm glad were aren't fighting like we used too... lol

I agree we won't be seeing results for at least a month in my eyes... maybe even longer for the actual DLC.

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Here's another poll, this time from german Gamestar Magazine. It's on the frontside of their website currently.
May have been posted before.

http://www.gamestar....299273&type=png

Voters: 14824

Light Blue - The ending ruined the whole series.
Brown - I'm dissappointed.
White - Haven't finished the game yet.

Red and Blue liked the ending. (booh)

Hold The Line!

Modifié par Sunnyhat1, 18 mars 2012 - 11:57 .


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For those playing MP and want a better ending to the SP I request that you boycott the MP for now, I know I'm asking a lot, but a strong message needs to be sent, it's no shame if you continue with MP, but EA will not hesitate to use it as PR.

Modifié par DJBare, 18 mars 2012 - 11:58 .


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Fulgrim88 wrote...

mCorfe wrote...

Just woke up. Taking position at the line.
For our LI's.
For Galaxy's fate.
For Marauder Shield!

We shouldn't forget the 3 Husketeers.

Marauder Shields was not alone! ;)

And neither are we.


Those brave soldiers who tried to save us from the horrific end to our journey