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#4301
DeinonSlayer

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Risselda wrote...

We have 2 groups of people....

The "we're at war...qq"
and the "Sunsetters"

Why cant there be 2 endings again? Make everyone happy? Instead of 7 stupidly similar (supposedly) endings

It would be easy enough to do, and it would still have a bittersweet element to it.

Shepard walks away from the final decision. For once in his/her life, Shepard lets the chips fall where they may.

The Catalyst stops meddling in organic affairs, the Reapers return to dark space, and everybody else goes home. If the singularity is inevitable, give us the option to let it happen. It will eventually mean the total destruction of civilization (which we will eventually get via singularity with the Destroy ending anyway), and Shepard knows it. This, combined with the devastation already wrought by the Reapers, delivers the bittersweet element. Everyone alive now lives out their lives; society (maybe) destroys itself a few tens of thousands of years down the line via singularity, and only then do the Reapers return to re-seed the galaxy with life, inverting their former purpose. What we get is a different kind of cycle, one that doesn't necessarily have to end with the extinction of organic life. Whether it does or not is up to us (organics). The responsibility falls on us to make that decision. We shouldn't be "protected" from the consequences of our own actions.

Beats the hell out of some magical green energy wave that spontaneously converts everyone in the galaxy into husks, if you ask me.

Modifié par DeinonSlayer, 01 mars 2012 - 03:53 .


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I'd actually kind of like just a simple after the credits scene with a living Shepard (if he survived) and maybe Anderson or Garrus if he stayed on Earth and lived. Just them talking about what they're going to do with the blank future ahead of them. Then a little gleaming open ended hope along the lines of:

"And what about the Normandy? The team?"

"They're out there somewhere, Garrus. All we have to do is find them. And I will."

That alone would make me happy.

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Although Bethesda could teach them how to write a convincing homosexual character.

Hint: Start with someone who isn't a desperate sex fiend.


I don't think BioWare actually tried full-on homosexuals until ME3, they just had bisexual options. ME3 has Steve and the new yeoman, who I believe are exclusively homosexual romances. (As a side note, Kelly is still in the game and you can still continue your ME2 romance with her, she's just not on the Normandy crew.)

The novel Mass Effect: Ascension has a character named Hendel Mitra, who was homosexual, but the only indication of such is a conversation in which Kahlee deflects her lover's jealousy about the time she spends with Hendel by pointing out he swings the other way. That's a good way to do it, I think. Actually writing a romance would be trickier, though, if you're trying to avoid stereotyping and all that, but that's the case with heterosexual romances as well. We just see those more often, so the tricks and pitfalls are fairly well-documented. (Sometimes, we even take that time-tested advice when we write them. You know, on special occasions.)


They did in Dragon Age 2. They only appeared bisexual if you played, well both sexes.

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Why is this condemning species to death? We don't have eezo and space travel, and we're doing ok.

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Johnnycide wrote...

Lanius993 wrote...

kingsims wrote...

Chris: "We forgot to finish the 4th ending on the disc, stay tuned we have something planned :devil:"



Please tell me thats real and not a joke :mellow:


"Quick guys, the peasants are revolting, write up something similar to Fallout 3's Broken Steel DLC."



They better not charge for it, Charge you Money for Ending almost everyone wants, that's down right low, worse then Day 1 DLC.


JJ

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Johnnycide wrote...

So when they made the statement there were 1000's of different variables that would play into an individualized ending, that was nothing?

Well I guess if you're Bioware 1000's of different variables boil down to only 7 endings.


Really just one ending.

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Johnnycide wrote...

Lanius993 wrote...

kingsims wrote...

Chris: "We forgot to finish the 4th ending on the disc, stay tuned we have something planned :devil:"



Please tell me thats real and not a joke :mellow:


"Quick guys, the peasants are revolting, write up something similar to Fallout 3's Broken Steel DLC."



I'd pay 20 bucks for one ending where the normandy isn't stranded, seriously, F&*$ Galactic Civilization. I want my crew :(

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GDK wrote...

I'd actually kind of like just a simple after the credits scene with a living Shepard (if he survived) and maybe Anderson or Garrus if he stayed on Earth and lived. Just them talking about what they're going to do with the blank future ahead of them. Then a little gleaming open ended hope along the lines of:

"And what about the Normandy? The team?"

"They're out there somewhere, Garrus. All we have to do is find them. And I will."

That alone would make me happy.


Post game DLC!

Yes, this would be enough, as long as there was actually closure eventually.

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MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

Yeah, I'm leaning towards Bethesda more and more. Their games may be buggy as hell but Yorda the Nord with misgivings about Ulfric's ideals, has had a far more interesting adventure. She may not have a voice, but I gave her personality.

And in New Vegas Boone is my partner in crime. We travel across the desert, trying to out-snipe one another by day. By night we curl up by the campfire and eat stewed molerat.


Ah, see me and Cass spend our days wandering the wasteland hunting A-holes before drinking the night away in whiskey fueled binges.

On a more serious note, the characters in NV are so awesome and well written because Bethesda had nothing to do with that game aside from publishing it.  It was written by the Obsidian team.  Bethesda still sucks at making convincing characters.  NV though has fantastic characters.  Cass may be my all time favorite video game character.  All the companions in that game were great.

Modifié par Capeo, 01 mars 2012 - 03:53 .


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Johnnycide

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Mass Effect 3 should have been on Steam, that way people could make their own endings on Garry's Mod at least, I'd rather watch a cheesy Youtube submitted ending than have to buy into crap writing.

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my me3 ending is way better
everyone is dead in the end the scene cuts to shepard waking up in the original normandy with Doctor Chakwas saying "welcome back"

whatatwist.gif

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Sowtaaw wrote...

my me3 ending is way better
everyone is dead in the end the scene cuts to shepard waking up in the original normandy with Doctor Chakwas saying "welcome back"

whatatwist.gif


Is this followed by a, "how long was I out, doc?"

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Johnnycide wrote...
"Quick guys, the peasants are revolting, write up something similar to Fallout 3's Broken Steel DLC."


I prefer to call that DLC "Fallout 3: Common Sense". 

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Cor7ana wrote...

Sowtaaw wrote...

my me3 ending is way better
everyone is dead in the end the scene cuts to shepard waking up in the original normandy with Doctor Chakwas saying "welcome back"

whatatwist.gif


Is this followed by a, "how long was I out, doc?"


Followed by the title screen of Lost.

Modifié par Johnnycide, 01 mars 2012 - 03:48 .


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Maybe the 'good ending' has no bink video, it's all in-game, and the people who have been playing so far failed to unlock it?

(yes, yes, I know; I've been to all the spoiler forums)

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Capeo wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

Yeah, I'm leaning towards Bethesda more and more. Their games may be buggy as hell but Yorda the Nord with misgivings about Ulfric's ideals, has had a far more interesting adventure. She may not have a voice, but I gave her personality.

And in New Vegas Boone is my partner in crime. We travel across the desert, trying to out-snipe one another by day. By night we curl up by the campfire and eat stewed molerat.


Ah, see me Cass spend our days wandering the wasteland hunting A-holes before drinking the night away in whiskey fueled binges.

On a more serious note, the characters in NV are so awesome and well written because Bethesda had nothing to do with that game aside from publishing it.  It was written by the Obsidian team.  Bethesda still sucks at making convincing characters.  NV though has fantastic characters.  Cass may be my all time favorite video game character.  All the companions in that game were great.


Yeah, I travelled with Cass for a while too. And what was the girl's name...that power-fisted everything. I want to say...Victoria but I could be totally wrong. It's been a while.

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WvStolzing wrote...

Maybe the 'good ending' has no bink video, it's all in-game, and the people who have been playing so far failed to unlock it?

(yes, yes, I know; I've been to all the spoiler forums)


Haha... if only.

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Why is this condemning species to death? We don't have eezo and space travel, and we're doing ok.


No, we don't, but we also haven't spent centuries in a socioeconomic infastructure that relies heavily on those two things.

We're doing OK now, but send today's human society back to the (literal) stone age and we probably wouldn't be doing so hot.

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Lanius993 wrote...

Johnnycide wrote...

Lanius993 wrote...

kingsims wrote...

Chris: "We forgot to finish the 4th ending on the disc, stay tuned we have something planned :devil:"



Please tell me thats real and not a joke :mellow:


"Quick guys, the peasants are revolting, write up something similar to Fallout 3's Broken Steel DLC."



I'd pay 20 bucks for one ending where the normandy isn't stranded, seriously, F&*$ Galactic Civilization. I want my crew :(


No, no you wouldn't. Stop encouraging developers to release a finished product in parts. Games are already expensive.

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You know how this all could've been settled?

You could've had a real choice too. You either attempt to have the epic battle and fail (or perhaps win if you set it up perfectly through the series), or go with the Crucible plan that mucks up galactic civilization.

Or you go the third route; real self-sacrifice, and probably a harder decision than the Crucible plan. You decide to pull another Relay destruction. Destroying a Relay like in Arrival sets off a super-nova like explosion, which even the Reapers would be hard pressed to survive. Sol is destroyed, Shepard and his friends dead, and humanity is gone. But with the price of their blood, they buy the galaxy a real future.

Still a downer ending. You're dead, humanity is basically dead, and the galaxy is still devastated. But the galaxy has a future, and has hope.



Except we don't get that. We get the options of "Bad, Worse, Slightly Less Worse".

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If there's an option for Shepard to tell the crew to stay on Earth, instead of race to the Charon relay, maybe?

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MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

Capeo wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

Yeah, I'm leaning towards Bethesda more and more. Their games may be buggy as hell but Yorda the Nord with misgivings about Ulfric's ideals, has had a far more interesting adventure. She may not have a voice, but I gave her personality.

And in New Vegas Boone is my partner in crime. We travel across the desert, trying to out-snipe one another by day. By night we curl up by the campfire and eat stewed molerat.


Ah, see me Cass spend our days wandering the wasteland hunting A-holes before drinking the night away in whiskey fueled binges.

On a more serious note, the characters in NV are so awesome and well written because Bethesda had nothing to do with that game aside from publishing it.  It was written by the Obsidian team.  Bethesda still sucks at making convincing characters.  NV though has fantastic characters.  Cass may be my all time favorite video game character.  All the companions in that game were great.


Yeah, I travelled with Cass for a while too. And what was the girl's name...that power-fisted everything. I want to say...Victoria but I could be totally wrong. It's been a while.


I think it may of been Veronica, could be wrong.

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MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

Capeo wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

Yeah, I'm leaning towards Bethesda more and more. Their games may be buggy as hell but Yorda the Nord with misgivings about Ulfric's ideals, has had a far more interesting adventure. She may not have a voice, but I gave her personality.

And in New Vegas Boone is my partner in crime. We travel across the desert, trying to out-snipe one another by day. By night we curl up by the campfire and eat stewed molerat.


Ah, see me Cass spend our days wandering the wasteland hunting A-holes before drinking the night away in whiskey fueled binges.

On a more serious note, the characters in NV are so awesome and well written because Bethesda had nothing to do with that game aside from publishing it.  It was written by the Obsidian team.  Bethesda still sucks at making convincing characters.  NV though has fantastic characters.  Cass may be my all time favorite video game character.  All the companions in that game were great.


Yeah, I travelled with Cass for a while too. And what was the girl's name...that power-fisted everything. I want to say...Victoria but I could be totally wrong. It's been a while.

Veronica, destroyer of all. :devil:

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Lanius993 wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

Capeo wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

Yeah, I'm leaning towards Bethesda more and more. Their games may be buggy as hell but Yorda the Nord with misgivings about Ulfric's ideals, has had a far more interesting adventure. She may not have a voice, but I gave her personality.

And in New Vegas Boone is my partner in crime. We travel across the desert, trying to out-snipe one another by day. By night we curl up by the campfire and eat stewed molerat.


Ah, see me Cass spend our days wandering the wasteland hunting A-holes before drinking the night away in whiskey fueled binges.

On a more serious note, the characters in NV are so awesome and well written because Bethesda had nothing to do with that game aside from publishing it.  It was written by the Obsidian team.  Bethesda still sucks at making convincing characters.  NV though has fantastic characters.  Cass may be my all time favorite video game character.  All the companions in that game were great.


Yeah, I travelled with Cass for a while too. And what was the girl's name...that power-fisted everything. I want to say...Victoria but I could be totally wrong. It's been a while.


I think it may of been Veronica, could be wrong.


That's it.

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ToastPants wrote...

webhead921 wrote...

Why is this condemning species to death? We don't have eezo and space travel, and we're doing ok.


No, we don't, but we also haven't spent centuries in a socioeconomic infastructure that relies heavily on those two things.

We're doing OK now, but send today's human society back to the (literal) stone age and we probably wouldn't be doing so hot.


I doubt this.  People will find a way to survive.  People will adapt, and life can go on without reper intervention every 50,000 years.