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[Trojan_33]

Neezoy wrote...

www.youtube.com/watch


What this guy says is pretty much all I ever wanted from the ending. Not too complicated (as plots go), but epic none the less since it makes the galactic unity created by Shepard really matter. I never liked the Crucible thing to begin with (if felt so sudden and random), so to have that construct be virtually meaningless, and have that be the actual twist of the game sounds to me like a great idea.


(Thanks to whoever linked that first, I couldn't find the post again so I couldn't quote.)

I saw that vid last night. Bioware gave up on the dark energy plot they had for star-child? I have no idea wtf they were thinking.

Modifié par Trojan_33, 18 mars 2012 - 02:58 .

[Ohpus]

Valk72 wrote...

Mr Chr15topher wrote...

I actually started a 2nd playthrough of ME3 yesterday, but I couldn't force myself past palaven. I honestly can't face collecting those assets again, just to choose my favourite colour at the end.

Just stop before the Cerberus Base, that's what i'm doing...


Hold The Line.

Ditto.

Hacking my ME3 save with Gibbed now. You know the 3 conversation modes they had in the demo that are missing from the full release. The options are there in the save game file.

Yeah someone rushed this out the door. Probably the same people that rushed DA II.

[Mandemon]

Iucounou wrote...

Just a reminder from my Brain of Certainty...

Bioware has already done the endings we want. They just planned to withold them until April to get us to pay for them AFTER we had bought the game thinking the endings would be in that.

Cynical marketing tactics that have backfired so spectacularly that they have no way out.

Any proof if this? Because "truth" DLC was a hoax.

[Twilight_Princess]

Mr Chr15topher wrote...

wicked_being wrote...

Has anyone tried emailing our side to non-gaming publications? Maybe they'd find it advantageous as they won't have to quote any other publication (just a thought). We have an official Retake movement twitter account so maybe contact those writers via twitter?

Someone got The Sun in the UK to do a piece on it apparently.

Is it in today's paper?

[Xyalon]

Elanor1 wrote...

OhManTFE wrote...

This sort of outrage is exactly the same that would have occurred if JK Rowling decided to kill Harry Potter and let Voldemort win in book 7. -.-

That wouldn't be so bad if she would explain that, and Harry wouldn't die for nothing.

If Harry had died and taken Voldemort with him, then people would have been sad but acceptant, but this is because she would have written an epilogue about Hermione and Ron and the other people from the series. 

It's a simple rule:

You can have a "happy" ending where most people live and leave the future open to interpretation; closure is welcome but not vital, but the concept of ongoing hope is everpresent. (Example: ME1)

You can have a "tragic" ending where the protagonist(s) dies and provide closure on those who lived to provide closure. Not much room for interpretation but closure is just as good - the sweetness to offset the bitterness. Again, hope is present. (Example: DA:O if you don't go through the Ritual)

You can have a "darker tragic" ending which has closure but it is not positive. Again no interpretation but you know that regardless of the outcome the protagonist went down fighting. These endings exist and are becoming more popular, where the protagonist or group of such, end up dead or dying with nothing really achieved. They are dark but they have one thing in common which is that they leave you with no possible misinterpretation with what happened. (Example, the ending of ME2 if you are diligent enough to get everyone in your squad killed including Shepard, but knowledge that the fight continues without you but there's not much hope)

And finally you can have an "Artistic" ending (not my choice of adjective but I'm not going to be more overtly critical than I already am) where the protagonist(s) die (possibly) and may (or may not have) solved the struggle against which they fought and some of them may (or may not) have survived. Giving no details apart from flimsy hints at possible outcomes for the future. Lots of room for (mis)interpretation, no closure, and a distinct lack of satisfaction. It's closer to cliffhanger than anything else. (Example...well do I really need to give one?)

[TheBull]

Trojan_33 wrote...

Neezoy wrote...

www.youtube.com/watch


What this guy says is pretty much all I ever wanted from the ending. Not too complicated (as plots go), but epic none the less since it makes the galactic unity created by Shepard really matter. I never liked the Crucible thing to begin with (if felt so sudden and random), so to have that construct be virtually meaningless, and have that be the actual twist of the game sounds to me like a great idea.


(Thanks to whoever linked that first, I couldn't find the post again so I couldn't quote.)

I saw that vid last night. Bioware gave up on the dark energy plot they had for star-child? I have no idea wtf they were thinking.

They saw Matrix reloaded and Revolutions and thought "....that is clever we should do that"

[Conspicuous Cake]

 Just a reminder, guys!

ArmyKnifeX wrote...

We hold grievances with the current ending and EA/BioWare because:

• The game's ending fails to meet what we were promised as consumers.

• The game's ending fails to meet our expectations as fans.

• The response from BioWare needs to change.

• We have jobs, families, responsibilities. We dedicate our time to this cause because we genuinely care about Mass Effect and its story.

• We want to see a product that we, as human beings, as consumers, as fans, and as players can be proud of.
• We wish to see a conclusion to the game that does the rest of the series justice - in terms of concluding the story and providing the players with both choices and consequences to prior choices.

[Tychondrus5]

Rubmifer wrote...

Goikiu wrote...

silencemayday wrote...

johnnybravo2 wrote...

how can i get the canadian fleet banner?

http://lugoentertain....com/me3ending/ 

under fan art

or here -> 
http://onima.org/ME3/index.php?zone=3  

Still no belgian fleet banner

You can ask Sl4sh3r to make you one he made all of them. he originally put them here: http://s748.photobuc...mview=slideshow 

[firstarioch]

I think that truth dlc even if it is not true although I think it is we made sure it will be true.
As this campaign is just too big of a beast now.

[Xyalon]

firstarioch wrote...

I have contacted sun and daily mail.got an email back that they will pass it on their game dept and will try to help.but its not good enough now.weekend is over as everyone knows in uk during the weekend everything shuts.tomorrow im on the one to all publications. I tweeted

No news in the Sunday Times, though I didn't get all of it due to an accident on the A51.

Regarding the Sun and Daily Mail....I have said it before and will do so again: choose your allies carefully. Both of those Tabloids are just as likely to side with the "entitled gamer" argument as they are with us. They certainly would have no concern over stabbing us in the back if it suited their ideals.

[lodgik]

WOW..... people i don't know if somebody posted this here but you got to read this. It's awesome

[link]http://www.themetagames.com/2012/03/why-you-enjoy-art-and-one-problem-with.html[/link]

Modifié par lodgik, 18 mars 2012 - 03:08 .

[Conspicuous Cake]

Xyalon wrote...

firstarioch wrote...

I have contacted sun and daily mail.got an email back that they will pass it on their game dept and will try to help.but its not good enough now.weekend is over as everyone knows in uk during the weekend everything shuts.tomorrow im on the one to all publications. I tweeted

No news in the Sunday Times, though I didn't get all of it due to an accident on the A51.

Regarding the Sun and Daily Mail....I have said it before and will do so again: choose your allies carefully. Both of those Tabloids are just as likely to side with the "entitled gamer" argument as they are with us. They certainly would have no concern over stabbing us in the back if it suited their ideals.

Hm, yeah.
We should be wary of that.

[Mundas]

The ending is too much, it is completely out of place with the rest of ME Universe, i mean "space magic" seriously? ME1, 2 and 3 are a lesson in how to tell an incredible story, but the last 5 mins completely undo it with an unnessesary plot twist. It just feels so lazy and convoluted.

A "Star Child" with the ability to fuse all synthetic and organic life in the known galaxy, um ok. But why should i believe or trust in what you say random VI i just met?

I understand this is the end of Sheperds story, but it doesn't have to be the end of him, or the Mass Effect universe as we known it. Like the rest of the game/s we should get to decide how things turn out, not be dictated to. I want MY choices to matter.

[firstarioch]

I know but I have send the letter to all newspapers in uk. Observer, guardian mirror etc.I was thinking exposure. Tomorrow I will start calling personally. Ans now with CNN we have more leverage.

[KaiserinKai]

TSC_1 wrote...

The Big Palooka wrote...

Guys, I have an idea that I feel has some merit.  If you agree, could you spread it around a bit?

With the letter-writing campaign winding down, and the charity drive moving along actively, I feel like we've done a lot to get our views out there, but we can't afford to stop now.  I'd like to run an idea by you all. 

How would people feel about organizing a low-key video message to Bioware, from us, the Retake movement?  I know a lot of us have made promotional vids or response videos on our own, but I'm talking about a single message, a letter from us, spoken by us, on video - maybe each person presenting one or two lines apiece - as many of us as we can fit into a reasonably concise message.

I feel this would be a good way to send a really positive message.  We love Bioware, we love Mass Effect, and we want to continue doing both of those things, but we're standing firm in our desire for endings that live up to the high standards the series has set up to now.  We feel this way as a unified group, but also as the individual gamers who make up that group.

Thanks for reading.

I like it. Maybe start a new thread for it?

If this happens, I'm in. I have a web cam and would love to throw in a few words~

[Jimmie_Rox]

Mr Chr15topher wrote...

wicked_being wrote...

Has anyone tried emailing our side to non-gaming publications? Maybe they'd find it advantageous as they won't have to quote any other publication (just a thought). We have an official Retake movement twitter account so maybe contact those writers via twitter?

Someone got The Sun in the UK to do a piece on it apparently.

OH GOD NO!

[Atrocity]

Trojan_33 wrote...

Neezoy wrote...

www.youtube.com/watch


What this guy says is pretty much all I ever wanted from the ending. Not too complicated (as plots go), but epic none the less since it makes the galactic unity created by Shepard really matter. I never liked the Crucible thing to begin with (if felt so sudden and random), so to have that construct be virtually meaningless, and have that be the actual twist of the game sounds to me like a great idea.


(Thanks to whoever linked that first, I couldn't find the post again so I couldn't quote.)

I saw that vid last night. Bioware gave up on the dark energy plot they had for star-child? I have no idea wtf they were thinking.

You know, it's kind of sad when gamers are praying the thinking was along the lines "we'll make another DLC to fix it and get more money".

And it's also sad how pissed off I am about this. I just mean, I'm a woman who had no problem with any ME DLC, ever, I didn't have problems with DA: Awakening, bugs, or even DA II and Sebastian DLC, so I'd say I have a pretty good tolerance when it comes to developers making *ahem* questionable choices. Yet I feel so hollow, betrayed and pissed off it's not even funny.  I suppose it's because the ending destroyed the games I already played, instead of just botchering the last installment and only that.

I suppose as an artistic statement, making the last 10 minutes to destroy all the enjoyment and want to ever replay any of the ME games again is quite powerful. Challenging our concept of gaming, such as fan commintment, developer promises, game-lore, whether games are meant to be enjoyed to begin with... [ / sarcasm ]

[Iucounou]

Mandemon wrote...

Iucounou wrote...

Just a reminder from my Brain of Certainty...

Bioware has already done the endings we want. They just planned to withold them until April to get us to pay for them AFTER we had bought the game thinking the endings would be in that.

Cynical marketing tactics that have backfired so spectacularly that they have no way out.

Any proof if this? Because "truth" DLC was a hoax.

No proof Mandemon, just a gut feeling. Because the alternative...that this is the ending they thought would satisfy us...is just too unbelievable to comprehend. It speaks of incompetency beyond my ability to fathom. Therefore, I cannot believe it. Call it denial, or wishful thinking, if you like. But if Starchild was their intended ending all along, then I'll never buy another Bioware product.

[Gardner295]

firstarioch wrote...

Now with CNN and NBC fox and Forbes. We have more power. Will speak directly to everyone. Will do my best.
I'm holding the line.

Whoa, the CNN? You should demand a promotion!

[Ohpus]

Xyalon wrote...

Has anyone downloaded here the Soundtrack from the CE?

[snip]

I find it amusing to look at all the tracks in order, they kind of sum up the game's progress. Especially the last two. It would be nice to think that the last two tracks (CE only) are actually indicative of something - we know that the first one definitely is

I find it irritating that they are all wav files.

Seriously, Bioware?

You know the thing is rushed when they give you the base files and say "here, you convert them into FLAC or MP3 yourself, we can't be bothered."

Also irritating is that some people pay per MB for bandwidth, so yea. Great move.

[wicked_being]

Someone posted this earlier:

http://theparanoidga...d-bioware-oh-my

Good discussion IMO

- they don't like the ending
- they don't like the sites who jumped ship and talk crap about gamers