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Mr Chr15topher wrote...

I would like a happy ending option, but I don't want only happy endings. I'm fine with shep sacrificing himself/herself if their war assets or readiness aren't high enough or thats how they choose to go if their LI has been killed etc.


Precisely, though.  Had the game delievered what was advertised...there'd be many many endings to playthrough. 

But the largest issue, I think, is lack of follow through on all the promises made. 

If in the end they decide not to rectify this, I think I've learned a valuable lesson in buying games on release day. 

#43652
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Mr Chr15topher wrote...

Geinen wrote...

Nilofeliu wrote...




Honestly, every time I see someone saying we want "happier endings" I get mad...

We don't want happier endings, we want an ending...


/Salute



Exactly what I was thinking.  I'd hate a sappy happy ending.  I just want one that accounts for it's lose ends....

I think thats just misinformation on the behalf of writers who can't be bothered to spend more than five minutes reading up on the topic before they write their piece.


I would like a happy ending option, but I don't want only happy endings. I'm fine with shep sacrificing himself/herself if their war assets or readiness aren't high enough or thats how they choose to go if their LI has been killed etc.


I agree with 
Mr Chr15topher. There is nothing wrong with there being a happy ending if the player has gathered enough war assets and made the right choices I think, as long as there are other endings as well. I know I would want an ending where Shep and LI can be together after the war for my main Shep.

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TamiBx wrote...

firstarioch wrote...


Cd project is fast becoming and im sure it wants to be next Bioware.
Their pedegree in RPGs now is very good. 
But since they didnt have big money they couldnt make games on Consoles.
Now that their game sold 1.5 mln copies plus another 4.5 mln pirated ...that shows that they are popualr and good.



Ooh, now I remember why I never got the Witcher: I can't play on computers XD
The beauty of having a mac...

Plus I'm not really a fan of playing on the computer. I like to see everything ina very big flatscreen tv with a vibrating controller 
Space Magic looks better when it's big! :wizard:


...not reall. 

Hehe not even a big screen can help save that ending. But the witcher 2 does come on x box in april. I think its a good thing for Bioware to get some competition.

#43654
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I was hoping with some closure regarding the squadmates. That message "Shepard has become a legend defeating the Reapers. Continue to play through DLC." was tantamount to:

CONGRATURLATION !!!

YOU HAVE COMPLETED
A GREAT GAME .

AND PROOVED THE JUSTICE
OF OUR CULTURE .

NOW GO AND REST OUR
HEROES !

Life goes on. Thank you, Bioware, for many hours of enjoyment. That's what videogames are for.

#43655
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Xyalon wrote...

I think I might have gone back to ME1 to create even more new shepard characters to take through the awesome journey in order to reach what surely should have resulted in epic ending awesomeness. Instead....well, this is more fulfilling.


I might actually go play through ME1 again. Atleast I know it ends on an epic note.

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I've never ever felt the absolute need and desire to ever come on BSN till i had a Cherry Flavored explosion shoved down my throat. This girley is... welll...
Ouch.

After signing up yesterday i took my time reading through a few hundered pages as my 24 hour wait slowly started to decline went to bed woke up today and now im here to help! --holy shizzle you guys know how to keep it going, Kirrahi would be proud--
Adding my voice to many here! I am nothing but an echo among these wonderful and poliet fans about the Reasons, not excuses, why the ending was a load of horribly, and unvaried, candy flavors.

--Get ready for a hopefully small wall of text. Nothing you guys can't vault over or assassinate a cerberus agent. :3 --

Holy balbalsdfasfh;sdfhsa i finished the game Monday and i have to say, i really wish Marauder Shields killed me enough times that i would have rage quited. Sadly, i took him out first time around never considering his valient cause! But i want to talk about how amazing the game was till it was ripped up by a baby krogan.
Okay i romanced Kaiden in ME1 cause i don't really have a thing for... blue. xD Kidding Liara was a good friend of my through out the series. ME2 comes around and that sexy turian is Archangle - his head butting skills are divine BTW- xD I love that turian. Replayed that game like millions of times because of Choice Oriented it was. Though i could never bring my self to ever romance anyone but Garrus. Though i wish i could have stuck up the middle finger a few times toward Kaiden. Hes suchhhhh a girrrlllll >.> Anyway that is just my love of the game talking.
Here comes ME3, the MOTHER OF ALL GAMES i told my self when i first clicked started. AMAZING Romance!!! AMAZING story!! Pitch perfect deaths of my two most beloved characters. I knew Thane was destined and he died perfectly. Made me cry.
Mordin... oh my lurr Mordin. He was my Fav in ME2 -aside from Garrus of course- and i did everything in my power to make sure that the Genophage was going to be ended in the next. Glad to see THAT choice carried over quite nicely. Gosh there were no measurement of tears when he sacrificed himself... AH but heart broke! But, Some One Else Could Have Gotten It Wrong.
Going into the goodbyes with every one of your crew members Garrus' and EDI's tore my heart strings a new one. I was so glad that EDI could stand for some thing against the Reapers. Proof!!! That they are just as Orgainic as we are. Able to love and develope friendships. Why couldn't i shove EDI right up that Satan's childs.... --sorry this need calabrated again--
Anywayy got to the end and then spent no tears. I was more like WTFF for like two hours. Then spent the last week trying to figure out what i did wrong. I was thinking to myself "maybe i did some thing wrong and these are my only choices! Musstt Goo Backkk!" So i did, replayed ME2 and ME3 only to get this distasteful amount of well.... Nothing.

So i found myself coming on to the Forums, some thing i havent done since likee DA:O but i still didn't post till today. I was hoping BioWare and EAs joining would never result in a fan coming to their Forum and saying some thing Other then it was fantastic. Don't get me wrong it WAS till it that ending Ripped out any love i had for the game. Even the MP was addicting with friends.

AND THE CHARITY By the spririts i almost forgot!! I can't believe that charity has made over 50K i would donate but being in college i gotta eat! It ends at like April 11th right? Maybe me and my friends can raise some thing for them.
Im so glad that even if we dont get our Closure, those kids will.
--hopefully that is not too much. :3 Gotta stop before the writer in me explodes--

Holding the line till the end of time!!

Modifié par -GravityOfLove-, 18 mars 2012 - 04:30 .


#43657
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Geinen wrote...

Nilofeliu wrote...




Honestly, every time I see someone saying we want "happier endings" I get mad...

We don't want happier endings, we want an ending...


/Salute



Exactly what I was thinking.  I'd hate a sappy happy ending.  I just want one that accounts for it's lose ends....

I think thats just misinformation on the behalf of writers who can't be bothered to spend more than five minutes reading up on the topic before they write their piece.



cant we have both? if you work hard enough you get the sappy rainbows and unicorns ending or if you want you can completely fail and have everyone die just like how they did with ME2...I know thats what I was expecting going in before space magic happened :wizard:

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infinitekilan wrote...

Don't get me wrong, I understand that a true unicorn and rainbows ending isn't realistic, or possible given the scope of the war. But I at least want my Shep to live and be able to retire on Rannoch with Tali or have his blue babies with Liara or have a future with Ashley.

If squadmates have to die, I say let it be Vega and Javik.

Earth is all but a wasteland at this point, Thessia has fallen, and all kinds of deaths have already occurred. Millions died when the Citadel was taken over, never mind what happened with the rest of the galaxy.

Not that it should be an easy-to-attain ending, but it should at least be possible. Shepard dying makes the relationships I've built seem pointless.


Exactly.

#43659
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What we need is Chuck Norris and his support :) But seriously, 6th day on the line, still pissed, still depressed but also full of hope. We can do this people.

Keep holding the line!

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Elanor1 wrote...

wickermoon wrote...

btw. is there some kind of Retake Mass Effect badge for facebook or twitter, or something?


Yes it is: www.facebook.com/DemandABetterEndingToMassEffect3
 On twitter is RetakeME3 or something... I don't have an account there.


Thanks, I already liked this page, but I meant something that will show on my fb-site, not matter what. Like a profile image, or a theme or a little icon on the top left / right corner, showing my affiliation. You know, like those stickers on deviantart.com? I want every single person to see that I am fighting for our (mass effect) universe and that I will stand up for this and hold the line until the very end. I want to show the whole galaxy that I am not alone and that WE will not give up and stand OUR ground to fight those that want to destroy our universe! That WE, as a unity, will fight! They may try to break our spirit, they may try to indoctrinate us. But THEY will see that WE will not give up like those before us! And that WE. WILL. WIN!

Okay...got taken away a little bit, but you get my point ;)



Oh and one last thing:

"Never before have so many before come together from all quarters of the earth. But never before have we faced an enemy such as this. The PR will show us no mercy. We must give THEM no quarter. THEY will try to break our resolve. We must stand fast in the face of that terror. They will try to push us until our last hope dies, but we will not fall. We. will. prevail. Each of us will be defined by our actions in this struggle. Stand fast. Stand strong. Stand together.

Hold the line, all of you. Mass Effect 3 might be Shepard's last fight. But THIS is our final battle. This is where we stand and fight.

Hackett wiki out."

#43661
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infinitekilan wrote...

Don't get me wrong, I understand that a true unicorn and rainbows ending isn't realistic, or possible given the scope of the war. But I at least want my Shep to live and be able to retire on Rannoch with Tali or have his blue babies with Liara or have a future with Ashley.

If squadmates have to die, I say let it be Vega and Javik.

Earth is all but a wasteland at this point, Thessia has fallen, and all kinds of deaths have already occurred. Millions died when the Citadel was taken over, never mind what happened with the rest of the galaxy.

Not that it should be an easy-to-attain ending, but it should at least be possible. Shepard dying makes the relationships I've built seem pointless.


I agree with this. If I spend ages gathering assets etc, there should atleast be one option where Shepard gets some happiness. Instead in the only option he/she lives the crew and LI is stranded on another planet. Seem they added extra effort to make it as miserable as possible, and that is a cliche as rainbows and unicorns if you ask me.

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I've been playing ME3 trying to get best ending that would have required I get 5000 real readiness point. Now, readiness point, or total war assets have to reach 10,000 for any of us to even get 5000 real readiness points. That is because of the 50% on our war screen that never changes unless you play multiplayer. I tried that - multiplayer cost tons of money just to equip your guy and you start of as a ONE individual and get killed very quickly. This is even worst that I even imagined - I paid $50.00 of REAL MONEY to equip myself and still ending up as a level one. Thanks to other guys there they kept me alive - it was a horrible experience. Now to top it all off - those few hard earned point I got compliments of the other three on my team - are dropping back down like a rock. You loose points every few hours. I'm back exactly where I started now. What a waste of time and money. Multiplayer OWNS fully 50% of this game and none of us can get the best ending of 5000 real readiness points without MP points. Or Iphone app that is really, really terrible to play. I am so discouraged. Apparently it's built into this game you are forced into multi-player that doesn't even last beyond a few hours. The equipping you do FOR your level opne character is only good for ONE mission alone and then you're back to level one with no equipment. This is the most messed up game I've even seen under the sun.

Worse there isn't 10,000 points any of us can get for single player allowing that is then divided by that 50% giving us the 5000 we need for the very best ending we can get. That's not even possible in single player - even BW admitted as much.

#43663
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Holy crap, ME3 is taking a hit on amazon.ca, it's already down to 40$. This makes me happy because the only real thing that I think will make these guys listen to us is the hit their wallets will be taking. We're doing it guys. Keep holding the line.

#43664
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Witcher 1 and 2 as good but they are not Mass Effect .With all due respect in my humble opinion.
Played both . Wanted to play witcher 2 more as it was on my mates PC had money for new rig but donated it now to charity for mass effect 3.
But Im happy as cause is good and end result will glorious.:wizard:

Modifié par firstarioch, 18 mars 2012 - 04:28 .


#43665
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Tyranniac wrote...

I agree with 
Mr Chr15topher. There is nothing wrong with there being a happy ending if the player has gathered enough war assets and made the right choices I think, as long as there are other endings as well. I know I would want an ending where Shep and LI can be together after the war for my main Shep.


Maybe I should clarify.  When I say I would hate a happy ending it was under the implication that it was also the *only* ending we get. 

The news article stated we wished for a happier ending as our goal here.  Which is untrue.  I think many people would still feel ripped off if the *only* ending we got was garrus playing footsies on the beach.

What we want is to have variation.  To have the distinction that was promised to us made possible through our choices reflected in the endings.

Modifié par Geinen, 18 mars 2012 - 04:29 .


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Ukjack44 wrote...

Unlimited69x wrote...

If Casey Hudson wanted ME3's ending to be memorable. It won't be a positive memory. Unless they change it.


Hitler is memorable. Therefore someone should tell Mr Hudson that memorable is not always a good thing when it is quite bad.


The only differnce there is Hitler hates the ending too.

www.youtube.com/watch

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I just wonder...

what if guys at Bioware are having a bud, shouting "wassssuup" and asking themselves "do our fans really think we would serve them a s**t like this after almost 20 years of developing games? Let's see how the fanbase reacts to our Truth DLC annoucement on monday" :)

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Mr Chr15topher wrote...

I would like a happy ending option, but I don't want only happy endings. I'm fine with shep sacrificing himself/herself if their war assets or readiness aren't high enough or thats how they choose to go if their LI has been killed etc.


This! Reward players if they worked their ass off in Singleplayer and maybe even multiplayer. I for once do not like the trend of "The-hero-has-to-die-to-make-it-epic".

I like brent Knowles' take on this.

"End on a positive note. This is really important for video games... life
in general is full of ****ty stuff happening all the time. When I
invest a hundred hours into a game I need to walk away feeling like a
hero."


At the end of Mass Effect 3 I feel more like an idiot.

#43669
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Crossleft wrote...



Geinen wrote...

Nilofeliu wrote...




Honestly, every time I see someone saying we want "happier endings" I get mad...

We don't want happier endings, we want an ending...


/Salute



Exactly what I was thinking.  I'd hate a sappy happy ending.  I just want one that accounts for it's lose ends....

I think thats just misinformation on the behalf of writers who can't be bothered to spend more than five minutes reading up on the topic before they write their piece.



cant we have both? if you work hard enough you get the sappy rainbows and unicorns ending or if you want you can completely fail and have everyone die just like how they did with ME2...I know thats what I was expecting going in before space magic happened :wizard:

Who needs choices when you have space magic? :wizard: 

But seriously, there should be a wide range of ending form rainbows to failure.

#43670
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TamiBx wrote...

Ukjack44 wrote...

Unlimited69x wrote...

If Casey Hudson wanted ME3's ending to be memorable. It won't be a positive memory. Unless they change it.


Hitler is memorable. Therefore someone should tell Mr Hudson that memorable is not always a good thing when it is quite bad.


^ You made me laugh :lol:



It is nice to see that the Mass Effect ending can bring some joy to us for once as we all make fun of it. I know my 4 year old cousin liked the ending scene because she likes the color green and she likes pretty lights. Therefore it was a win win for her. Bravo Mr Hudson your ending appeals to someone.

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Ukjack44 wrote...

Unlimited69x wrote...

If Casey Hudson wanted ME3's ending to be memorable. It won't be a positive memory. Unless they change it.


Hitler is memorable. Therefore someone should tell Mr Hudson that memorable is not always a good thing when it is quite bad.


Comparing Bioware to Hitler is disgusting. Shame on you.

#43672
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infinitekilan wrote...

Don't get me wrong, I understand that a true unicorn and rainbows ending isn't realistic, or possible given the scope of the war. But I at least want my Shep to live and be able to retire on Rannoch with Tali or have his blue babies with Liara or have a future with Ashley.

If squadmates have to die, I say let it be Vega and Javik.

Earth is all but a wasteland at this point, Thessia has fallen, and all kinds of deaths have already occurred. Millions died when the Citadel was taken over, never mind what happened with the rest of the galaxy.

Not that it should be an easy-to-attain ending, but it should at least be possible. Shepard dying makes the relationships I've built seem pointless.


I would be happy about Shephard's death if I had more about those who lived on after him/her. If I saw Garrus on Palaven shooting bottles shouting "This one's for you"; Kasumi looking fondly at an old and damaged N7 helmet that mysteriously vanished from my cabin; Karin Chakwas toasting to Shepard every year, an undrunk glass of Serrice Brandy next to her; Grunt remembering the time that I headbutted a Krogan for showing him disrespect, and Tali, sitting outside her house on Rannoch, or maybe Earth, or in a Liveship on her long voyage home, looking at a photo of me and sighing, perhaps adopting a war orphan and calling him Shepard. And maybe the whole gang meeting up at some time in the future and remembering the past. Ok, that last bit is cheesy but you get the idea.

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Welsh Inferno wrote...

Xyalon wrote...

I think I might have gone back to ME1 to create even more new shepard characters to take through the awesome journey in order to reach what surely should have resulted in epic ending awesomeness. Instead....well, this is more fulfilling.


I might actually go play through ME1 again. Atleast I know it ends on an epic note.


With a looming Threat that will get explained in a nonsensical way.:alien:

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PresidentCowboy wrote...

Ukjack44 wrote...

Unlimited69x wrote...

If Casey Hudson wanted ME3's ending to be memorable. It won't be a positive memory. Unless they change it.


Hitler is memorable. Therefore someone should tell Mr Hudson that memorable is not always a good thing when it is quite bad.


Comparing Bioware to Hitler is disgusting. Shame on you.


He isn't. He's pointing out that memorable and good are not the same thing. Dismount please.

#43675
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I know that they will change those endings ... I Have a gut feeling .
Its just too big now .Im seething with rage.
I know all of us are.