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IxSITHxI wrote...
Ukjack44 wrote...
Unlimited69x wrote...
If Casey Hudson wanted ME3's ending to be memorable. It won't be a positive memory. Unless they change it.
Hitler is memorable. Therefore someone should tell Mr Hudson that memorable is not always a good thing when it is quite bad.
The only differnce there is Hitler hates the ending too.
www.youtube.com/watch
T-Raks wrote...
Besides Marauder Shields the reaction vids on youtube are also priceless. My favorite: Bruce willis.
On that point, I have no doubt that everybody agrees: this is one of the best game I have played, except the ending!Cybermortis wrote...
DJBare wrote...
The people in control are for the most part not in touch with gamers, they are purely business for the most part, they will be weighing up the "cost" of doing the right thing against the risk of doing nothing.AshleyMadelineWilliams wrote...
To make up for there failed promises... i would have thought it was.
I was thinking on this last night, and it dawned on me that BW is in something of a pickle.
If they do nothing then it seems clear that the game just isn't going to sell, and with the SWMMO having put a large hole in their bank balance and before that DA2 not doing well they can't really afford for ME3 to be a flop.
If they do produce and release an ending DLC it would cost money, but if the 'new' ending is good enough to win over the existing players there is a fair chance that our word could convince others to buy the game.
The problem here is that the second option is a gamble, a gamble that word of mouth will increase sales of the game and therefore offset what-ever it cost to produce the DLC. Very risky, even more risky if they manage to make a mess of the DLC.
Now on the face of it the way to reduce that risk would be to charge for the DLC...but there is a rather major problem with this - and one that no-one seems to have considered. The whole reason for producing a DLC would be to get more sales, but if new players are basically being told that they have to buy the game and THEN spend more money to get a good ending. Well, legal issues aside I can't see many people being willing to basically pay for the game twice. Charging existing players for a DLC, and then making it free to new customers...well that is just going to result in accusations of money-grabbing by the existing crowd who will probably never again look at a Bioware game.
Basically Bioware only has two options, do nothing and loose a LOT of money due to the game simply not selling. Or they would have to produce and release a free DLC for everyone in the hopes that sales will improve. Both are risky moves, more so for the latter depending on how long it would take and how much it would cost.
What it will come down to I think is how willing the people with the money are to take a chance, and how much affect they think we are having - basically if they think that a good ending DLC would result in us being able to convince people to go buy the game afterwards.
If Bioware is in this position, and reading, I'd point out that the same percentage of people who want a new ending ALSO agree that the rest of the game is brilliant...and we are far from afraid to say that.
Geinen wrote...
Maybe I should clarify. When I say I would hate a happy ending it was under the implication that it was also the *only* ending we get.
The news article stated we wished for a happier ending as our goal here. Which is untrue. I think many people would still feel ripped off if the *only* ending we got was garrus playing footsies on the beach.
What we want is to have variation. To have the distinction that was promised to us made possible through our choices reflected in the endings.
Geinen wrote...
T-Raks wrote...
Besides Marauder Shields the reaction vids on youtube are also priceless. My favorite: Bruce willis.
LOL You just made my day!!
Modifié par Xyalon, 18 mars 2012 - 04:44 .
Xyalon wrote...
TamiBx wrote...
Totally random, but...
People who play ME on console: did you think that the controller vibrated way less in ME3 than in ME2? I remember in ME2 whatever impact scene we had, it would vibrate like crazy and in ME3, even when Shepard was falling, it wouldn't vibrate at all
I had to ask that.
Yep, totally noticed that. And sometimes it would also vibrate for apparently no reason at all.
They have all been fantastic, a credit to the entire fleet, being somewhat familiar wi BSN I expected this thread to spiral out of control, I'm truly glad I've been proven wrong so far.-GravityOfLove- wrote...
Thankies. Glad to be joing the fight.
Everything seems to be properly calibrated, but maybe i need to check again. Making sure nothing is "cherry" flavored. :3
Im so amazed at how poliet every one is. Makes me feel a little better. xD
Modifié par DJBare, 18 mars 2012 - 04:43 .
You take the words out of my lips!Nex_Legis wrote...
Geinen wrote...
Maybe I should clarify. When I say I would hate a happy ending it was under the implication that it was also the *only* ending we get.
The news article stated we wished for a happier ending as our goal here. Which is untrue. I think many people would still feel ripped off if the *only* ending we got was garrus playing footsies on the beach.
What we want is to have variation. To have the distinction that was promised to us made possible through our choices reflected in the endings.
That's exactly what I mean. I personally would love to get the chance to achieve a happy ending, but I'd never want that to be the only possible outcome.
It worked perfectly well in ME2, with so much variation, ranging from very happy to very dark. Why can't it be just like that in ME3?
BioWare stated that a happy ending wouldn't be appropriate considering what happened during the whole series. It worked for the first two parts of the game though, so why not now?
Geinen wrote...
Maybe I should clarify. When I say I would hate a happy ending it was under the implication that it was also the *only* ending we get.
The news article stated we wished for a happier ending as our goal here. Which is untrue. I think many people would still feel ripped off if the *only* ending we got was garrus playing footsies on the beach.
What we want is to have variation. To have the distinction that was promised to us made possible through our choices reflected in the endings.
Modifié par donmaciu, 18 mars 2012 - 04:46 .
PresidentCowboy wrote...
Ukjack44 wrote...
Unlimited69x wrote...
If Casey Hudson wanted ME3's ending to be memorable. It won't be a positive memory. Unless they change it.
Hitler is memorable. Therefore someone should tell Mr Hudson that memorable is not always a good thing when it is quite bad.
Comparing Bioware to Hitler is disgusting. Shame on you.
Cybermortis wrote...
DJBare wrote...
The people in control are for the most part not in touch with gamers, they are purely business for the most part, they will be weighing up the "cost" of doing the right thing against the risk of doing nothing.AshleyMadelineWilliams wrote...
To make up for there failed promises... i would have thought it was.
I was thinking on this last night, and it dawned on me that BW is in something of a pickle.
If they do nothing then it seems clear that the game just isn't going to sell, and with the SWMMO having put a large hole in their bank balance and before that DA2 not doing well they can't really afford for ME3 to be a flop.
If they do produce and release an ending DLC it would cost money, but if the 'new' ending is good enough to win over the existing players there is a fair chance that our word could convince others to buy the game.
The problem here is that the second option is a gamble, a gamble that word of mouth will increase sales of the game and therefore offset what-ever it cost to produce the DLC. Very risky, even more risky if they manage to make a mess of the DLC.
Now on the face of it the way to reduce that risk would be to charge for the DLC...but there is a rather major problem with this - and one that no-one seems to have considered. The whole reason for producing a DLC would be to get more sales, but if new players are basically being told that they have to buy the game and THEN spend more money to get a good ending. Well, legal issues aside I can't see many people being willing to basically pay for the game twice. Charging existing players for a DLC, and then making it free to new customers...well that is just going to result in accusations of money-grabbing by the existing crowd who will probably never again look at a Bioware game.
Basically Bioware only has two options, do nothing and loose a LOT of money due to the game simply not selling. Or they would have to produce and release a free DLC for everyone in the hopes that sales will improve. Both are risky moves, more so for the latter depending on how long it would take and how much it would cost.
What it will come down to I think is how willing the people with the money are to take a chance, and how much affect they think we are having - basically if they think that a good ending DLC would result in us being able to convince people to go buy the game afterwards.
If Bioware is in this position, and reading, I'd point out that the same percentage of people who want a new ending ALSO agree that the rest of the game is brilliant...and we are far from afraid to say that.
Jorojr wrote...
monimakitten wrote...
Hehe not even a big screen can help save that ending. But the witcher 2 does come on x box in april. I think its a good thing for Bioware to get some competition.
As a PC gamer, I played The Witcher 2 immediately after completing DA2. I was disappointed with DA2 (not to the the astronomical levels of the ME 3 ending), but TW2 more or less made me forget about it.
Nex_Legis wrote...
Geinen wrote...
Maybe I should clarify. When I say I would hate a happy ending it was under the implication that it was also the *only* ending we get.
The news article stated we wished for a happier ending as our goal here. Which is untrue. I think many people would still feel ripped off if the *only* ending we got was garrus playing footsies on the beach.
What we want is to have variation. To have the distinction that was promised to us made possible through our choices reflected in the endings.
That's exactly what I mean. I personally would love to get the chance to achieve a happy ending, but I'd never want that to be the only possible outcome.
It worked perfectly well in ME2, with so much variation, ranging from very happy to very dark. Why can't it be just like that in ME3?
BioWare stated that a happy ending wouldn't be appropriate considering what happened during the whole series. It worked for the first two parts of the game though, so why not now?
LOLUkjack44 wrote...
Unlimited69x wrote...
If Casey Hudson wanted ME3's ending to be memorable. It won't be a positive memory. Unless they change it.
Hitler is memorable. Therefore someone should tell Mr Hudson that memorable is not always a good thing when it is quite bad.
TheBull wrote...
Here is Captain Picard after he completes it.
Thore2k10 wrote...
i think someone just donated 1000$
quite amazing how dedicated some people are!
Modifié par Welsh Inferno, 18 mars 2012 - 04:47 .
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