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[Geinen]

TobiTobsen wrote...

Well... I don't think that the normandy has enough crewmembers to ensure enough genetic diversity. Unpleasant implications! Space Magic them away!

Five years after the crash landing, the Normandy picks up a track on the long range sensor radar.  The crowd collects around the monitor, wondering not for the first time, if today is the day they will get rescued.

A shuttle drops from the clouds and makes its way towards the Normandy.  The hatch of the shuttle opens, and Shepard steps out.

"Wtf...."  He says, as he takes in the sight of a thousand Kaidans gathering around him.

Cloning. 

[laughing sherpa girl]

dfdsgrgre wrote...

I belive the fact that humanity always ends stories with pain says alot about us - In a fictonal universe we can create anything yet enevitably we create pain and misery. I belive the fact that people seem to want pain and suffering to be proof of a fundimental flaw in our existants

PS It was a good game untill it took an ending in the knee

Its because people love to **** moan and complain. Psychologists know this, shrinks know it, marketing execs know it, and salesmen know it. If we had a happy little world no one would have anything to complain about.  its not bad enough that 275 counties in the US alone live at a sub-poverty level, that individuals needing health care cant get it because its become a luxury for those able to afford insurance, and the majority of inner city kids have got to hang with gangs just in order to feel they have some importance on this planet..  No, the world market now needs to make certain that the one thing many of us get joy from, also ends depressingly and in gloom. Why more people dont off themselves i dont know.. Guess it just shows how much we love to **** moan and complain..

PS.. Central Oregon  back on post..
hold the line.

Modifié par laughing sherpa girl, 18 mars 2012 - 05:08 .

[Elanor]

TheSteelArcher wrote...

I found this video on YouTube and decided it was absolutely worth posting. I didn't make it nor do I take any credit for it.



It's called Hold The Line - Retake Mass Effect 3

Epic.

[tompuddefoot]

Anything new to report on this plesent (but rainy) Sunday afternoon?

[beyondsolo]

I was just thinking back at the expectations I had before I finished the game.

When Cerberus got the Prothean data on the Catalyst, I was expecting that I'd have to make a call between allying with TIM again or at least following his conditions (which would cost me other allies) and sending him to hell, keeping my allies, but being forced to go on without any information on the Catalyst. None of that came to pass, however, and the attack went on to Earth.

Somehow I always felt Shepard was not going to survive the game. There were signs even midway through, situations where everyone could see how worn down and tired Shepard was. I thought that in the end I'd have to make a final decision, something along the lines of sacrifice Shepard for the best possible outcome for everyone else, don't sacrifice Shep and rely only on your fleet (which would make the outcome depend on EMS alone), or fail entirely in some way.

And then starchild happened and everything just got torn out of my hands. No matter which option I'd pick, there would be no outcome I could find myself agreeing with. So I chose, and then I realized that I would never learn the consequences of my final choice.

Did I want a happy ending? Not necessarily. I wanted an ending that wouldn't be so empty, that wouldn't defy and negate pretty much everything a saw in Mass Effect. I could have perfectly lived with Shepard ending up as the tragic hero, I would have even accepted the deaths of every single of my squad mates, though it probably would have made me very sad. I would have saluted every single one of them, as I did Thane, Mordin, and Legion. I would have saluted Shepard in the end.

I wanted to see what all those sacrifices were for. I wanted to know what the galaxy was going to be like after that devastating war. I wanted to see krogan children play on Tuchanka, quarians without suits on Rannoch, aided by the geth, I wanted to see that Salarians suffer the consequences for not supporting me in the final battle. And I wanted to know what happened to my crew and my LI (assuming they were still alive). I wanted to see Anderson embrace Kahlee, I wanted to know what would become of Garrus and Tali.

Instead there was nothing. There was no sense of accomplishment or noble sacrifice, only confusion and frustration. Mass Effect deserves to be better than this. BioWare can make Mass Effect better than this. That's why we must hold the line.

[Ossborn76]

Welsh Inferno wrote...
Sigh.. does anyone else actually like the music that plays in that scene? Too bad I can only associate it with pain..

Before I finished the game, I had the digital soundtrack on my Iphone and did listen to it all the time in my car...
since monday last week, I can´t listen to the soundtrack anymore 

Hold the line!

Modifié par Ossborn76, 18 mars 2012 - 05:09 .

[SiriusXI]

firas333 wrote...

SiriusXI wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

Hey guys checking in.
Been thinking about ME3 in general all night and how we were suppose to have "more intimate moments" with your squad since they cut it down. Casey even said they really couldn't do banter with 12 characters. But with 7 squadmates I thought they would do more banter.... Nope not really.

HOLD THE LINE.

That was actually the first thing that pissed me off about ME3 when I was like 8 hours in. I was thinking... WHERE the hell has all the dialogue gone? In ME2 you could talk constantly to your team. Now everyone just goes Zaheed/Kasumi on me...

Joker: Commander. Commander. Commander. Commander.
Liara: Good to see you. Good to see you. Good to see you. Good to see you.
Vega: Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey.
Tali: Maybe later. Maybe later. Maybe later. Maybe later.
Garrus: Not Now. Not Now.Not Now.Not Now. Not Now

WHY NOT NOW!? Sorry... still pisses me off, but in the light of the endings it becomes a minor complaint. Still the promises of MORE and DEEPER conversations with your team was a lie. I like that the people walk the ship more, e.g. Garrus and Joker telleng jokes, and I like the conversations via communicators. This added to the game. But There definitely is NOT more dialogue with the team in ME3 than there was in ME2.

So sad... This should be our next project once the endings are fixed... ok... one problem at a time.


HOLD THE LINE!

The thing is you need to talk to them after every single mission as ME2 did, so go up to every single char and spam E till they say a repeated line and move to next char until everyone repeats. Only then should you do the next mission if you want loads of dialogue, but the good thing is that they converse with eachother in different settings instead of the "shephard therapy session thing" as in previous ones.

Yes, I know. There are obviously improvements over the ME2 system. They interact more with each other and the Normandy feels more alive. But I hate that there are no dialogue options given. The comments after every mssion are fine, but most of the time they seem disconnected. So you click space on Garrus and he tells you something about the last mission. You hit space again and he makes a comment about Liara, and so on. This just doesn't feel like real dialogue, even if Shep responds to these comments sometimes.

In ME2 I would go to each and every char, after each and every mission, and most of the times, most people had something new to say. I liked that way more.

What also annoys me, is that the ship's crew (non squad) face each other and "talk", but you don't hear them... they make gestures and move their lips, but there is no sound... Same goes for some people on the Citadell.

[monima]

TheSteelArcher wrote...

I found this video on YouTube and decided it was absolutely worth posting. I didn't make it nor do I take any credit for it.



It's called Hold The Line - Retake Mass Effect 3

That was good:) thanks for posting it

[TobiTobsen]

Welsh Inferno wrote...

TheSteelArcher wrote...

I found this video on YouTube and decided it was absolutely worth posting. I didn't make it nor do I take any credit for it.



It's called Hold The Line - Retake Mass Effect 3

This is our themesong/video/whatever!

Yes sir! We need that video as our themevideo!

[LTBK]

IxSITHxI wrote...

The song in ME 3 is called Credits

It's "Das Malefitz"

[Aeyl]

Hey guys, have homework to do so I won't be very active. Just checking in to show support.

[Cybermortis]

DJBare wrote...

Xyalon wrote...
In all fairness, how much would it cost to produce 15-30 minutes more of gameplay? I'm asking honestly because I don't know.

Given that the foundation is there already, there'd probably little or no combat, and they are gfoing to be producing additional DLC anyway so they aren't firing up anything which they have shut down...

I just can't see it costing much.

A lot when you consider they have to bring the team back and pay them, 15-30 minutes of extra game could take more than a week, then there is the cost of bringing back the voice actors, and lets be honest here, I doubt the likes of Sheen come cheap.

They would need a script, then a story board, then they would have to make the scenes (it was technical difficulties that caused them some problems with the ending we already have). Then add any voice acting and re-score the music.

They could probably cut a few corners here. They might have an alternate script they could use - or of course use ideas that have been posted on these boards - which would reduce writing time. They might also be able to re-use parts of diolog from earier games, since all the primary characters are voiced by the same actors.

Much would depend on what they opted to do. Replacing the current ending's 'Star Child' might only require new diolog from three actors (Shepard and whomever they are meant to be talking too). I don't know why but I have a feeling that the actors who voiced Shepard would be more than happy to drop in, redoing their lines probably wouldn't take more than an hour or two. Giving an overview as to where everyone is and what they are doing after the ending might not require any new diolog at all - there are ways to do this with stirring music that don't require vocals, just look at the end of ME2 for an example. If they did opt for a narration at the end they could simply look through their books to see which of the voice actors Bioware uses would be available - it wouldn't even have to be one of the main cast for this.

Most of the money and time would be tied up in the technical side, in getting cutscenes to work (which as I said seems to have been one of the problems they had first time around). There is no realistic way we could figure out how much this would cost or how long it would take. If they do produce an ending DLC they would (or at least should) make damned sure it is good quality.

[Therefore_I_Am]

DJBare wrote...

Xyalon wrote...
In all fairness, how much would it cost to produce 15-30 minutes more of gameplay? I'm asking honestly because I don't know.

Given that the foundation is there already, there'd probably little or no combat, and they are gfoing to be producing additional DLC anyway so they aren't firing up anything which they have shut down...

I just can't see it costing much.

A lot when you consider they have to bring the team back and pay them, 15-30 minutes of extra game could take more than a week, then there is the cost of bringing back the voice actors, and lets be honest here, I doubt the likes of Sheen come cheap.

But the part with sheen can be left in if possible... The only thing that REALLY irks the majority is the Star Kid, lack of dialogue options with said Star Kid, and the choices at the end... you'd need, what, a one or two voices for the epilogue plus voice of the Star Kid, or whatever subtitute can take it's place?

[IxSITHxI]

LTBK wrote...

IxSITHxI wrote...

The song in ME 3 is called Credits

It's "Das Malefitz"

Ah very good. I like that much more than what my OST says, which is just credits lol

[Kenkimaru]

i really hope that once in a while we all will look back to ME3 and then it will be like: "Hey you remember that horrible me3 endings? wow that was like... the community and the fans where all like "hold the line" and all *laugh*" "Yeah i remember that. But it was so great when bioware gave us that DLC" ... I HOPE !!

Hold The Line.

[N085]

Not sure if this has been posted before but here goes. http://uk.pc.gamespy.../1221051p1.html

Modifié par N085, 18 mars 2012 - 05:15 .

[DJBare]

TheSteelArcher wrote...

I found this video on YouTube and decided it was absolutely worth posting. I didn't make it nor do I take any credit for it.



It's called Hold The Line - Retake Mass Effect 3

That gave me infinitely more feeling than the end of ME3, I just got something in my eye, it's nothing really.

Modifié par DJBare, 18 mars 2012 - 05:16 .

[johnnybravo2]

use the webpage to vote on new mass effect ending:

http://social.biowar...8017/1#10184305

hold the line

[tompuddefoot]

beyondsolo wrote...

I was just thinking back at the expectations I had before I finished the game.

When Cerberus got the Prothean data on the Catalyst, I was expecting that I'd have to make a call between allying with TIM again or at least following his conditions (which would cost me other allies) and sending him to hell, keeping my allies, but being forced to go on without any information on the Catalyst. None of that came to pass, however, and the attack went on to Earth.

Somehow I always felt Shepard was not going to survive the game. There were signs even midway through, situations where everyone could see how worn down and tired Shepard was. I thought that in the end I'd have to make a final decision, something along the lines of sacrifice Shepard for the best possible outcome for everyone else, don't sacrifice Shep and rely only on your fleet (which would make the outcome depend on EMS alone), or fail entirely in some way.

And then starchild happened and everything just got torn out of my hands. No matter which option I'd pick, there would be no outcome I could find myself agreeing with. So I chose, and then I realized that I would never learn the consequences of my final choice.

Did I want a happy ending? Not necessarily. I wanted an ending that wouldn't be so empty, that wouldn't defy and negate pretty much everything a saw in Mass Effect. I could have perfectly lived with Shepard ending up as the tragic hero, I would have even accepted the deaths of every single of my squad mates, though it probably would have made me very sad. I would have saluted every single one of them, as I did Thane, Mordin, and Legion. I would have saluted Shepard in the end.

I wanted to see what all those sacrifices were for. I wanted to know what the galaxy was going to be like after that devastating war. I wanted to see krogan children play on Tuchanka, quarians without suits on Rannoch, aided by the geth, I wanted to see that Salarians suffer the consequences for not supporting me in the final battle. And I wanted to know what happened to my crew and my LI (assuming they were still alive). I wanted to see Anderson embrace Kahlee, I wanted to know what would become of Garrus and Tali.

Instead there was nothing. There was no sense of accomplishment or noble sacrifice, only confusion and frustration. Mass Effect deserves to be better than this. BioWare can make Mass Effect better than this. That's why we must hold the line.

I know how you feel. I did think the game glossed over the fact that EVERYONE on the citedal was dead. Baily, the council, all the refugees, infact how did the crewmen from ME2 like Zaaid (cant remember the right spelling) get off and fight in the last battle? Didnt a large part of C-Sec fight with me as well?
Yet more things left unanswered!!!!

[yahtzo]

SSV Idaho reporting in. Holding the line!

[-GravityOfLove-]

Kenkimaru wrote...

i really hope that once in a while we all will look back to ME3 and then it will be like: "Hey you remember that horrible me3 endings? wow that was like... the community and the fans where all like "hold the line" and all *laugh*" "Yeah i remember that. But it was so great when bioware gave us that DLC" ... I HOPE !!

Hold The Line.

They will.
Cause Shepard Demands, and when Shepard is crossed.... he/she unites the galaxy under a common banner and says some thing encouraging.

Like..

Hold The Line.

[Tamcia]

Until some time ago I thought it was planned by BW - the fake ending, the subtle hint into something odd, the massive plotholes. Now I think BW just got lazy and squeezed a terribad ending, worthy of EPIC FAIL.

I don't know if they give a proper ending, but I lost faith in them. Been playing their games since Baldurs gate. Recently they changed (I mean last several years). Loved ME1 and 2, DA:O, but DA2 and ME3 ending - such a letdown, that they are <-> this close to getting on the same page as Infinityward, codemasters, obsidian etc. - companies I'll never buy from again.

[illutian]

Shepard here, still waiting to take on The Illusive Man; want better ending OPTION before I do.

[silencemayday]

DJBare wrote...

TheSteelArcher wrote...

I found this video on YouTube and decided it was absolutely worth posting. I didn't make it nor do I take any credit for it.



It's called Hold The Line - Retake Mass Effect 3

That gave me infinitely more feeling than the end of ME3, I just got something in my eye, it's nothing really.

maybe a twig? or a branch even? 
pretty much the same over here. the video's been playing on repeat since i found it today..

[Elanor]

-GravityOfLove- wrote...

Kenkimaru wrote...

i really hope that once in a while we all will look back to ME3 and then it will be like: "Hey you remember that horrible me3 endings? wow that was like... the community and the fans where all like "hold the line" and all *laugh*" "Yeah i remember that. But it was so great when bioware gave us that DLC" ... I HOPE !!

Hold The Line.

They will.
Cause Shepard Demands, and when Shepard is crossed.... he/she unites the galaxy under a common banner and says some thing encouraging.

Like..

Hold The Line.

Heh, I hope our movement will be remember. I'm glad to be part of it.

Hold the line!