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#44201
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Matt_gekko88

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Giubba1985 wrote...

1.Who are you (majority) to deprive the minority of their enjoyment ?
So ****** off the minority because they are fewer or not so vocal (or both) until the majority can (maybe) reach their goal?

2.I'm not trying to do nothing, that's the point. I've not organized a counter mass riot for all this mess are you making, i don't have even the intention of losing time after something trivial like this matter but i found the arrogance that lay at the base of yours request quite insulting .



Here we go again. "Arrogance" because we dare to complain over broken promises made by BioWare.
Again, in a market a customer has the right to demand later improvement if the product didn't fulfill what it should.
And again, BioWare always argued to listen to fan-feedback, to be a community-oriented developer. So, if we have the chance and possiblity to speak, why shouldn't we?

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Reporting in!

Anything particular new in the last 24 hours?

#44204
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Benirus wrote...

 Bioware, Mass Effect 1, Mass Effect 2, 95%
of Mass Effect 3, Shepard, the lies we where told, our love of the
series, our wallet and dignity to name a few.

Got any more questions?


Arrogance at his best.

Thore2k10 wrote...

we
dont want the old endings to vanish completely, just that new endings
are added. we want our choices throughout the games considered in the
ending not thrown out of the window by little deus ex machina of tall
deus ex machina!


Darkspazztic wrote...

See, we're not talking about getting rid of the ending and replacing it with something else, we're just asking to add on to it.

The
ME3 ending may have been amazing for you.  In that case,
congratulations.  I wish I could be as satisfied by it as you.  All
we're asking for is additions like closure, a potentially happy ending
where Shep doesn't die, and to see how our choices affected the universe
afterwards, which Bioware claimed they were going to do, yet didn't.

You can have your ending, and I'm glad that you liked it.

We just want *our* ending(s).

Thanks for your input!


I'm confused. So what i have to expect a rewrite of the ending already in place or addings other ending ot those that are already inside the game?

You are part of the same group and you gave me two complitly different answer on how handle this thing of yours.
You want a rewrite?An add? Or everybody in this "hold the line" joke have his opinon on how integrate this change in the existing content?

#44205
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TamiBx wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

 Guys, just don't answer people who come here to just go against the movement/troll.

Just simply say "thank you for your feedback" and ignore it. Seriously. It isn't worth it :P


You sound like Bioware.


But that's my intention.
They just want to bash, troll and annoy everyone here. So just ignore it. No matter what we say, they will always think we are after Bioware and that we are being ridiculous, so I decided to thank them for their opinion and stick to mine. 


I know I know, I just raged a bit there. I respectfully withdraw from combat for now, And I will stop firing on the geth dreadnaught while you're still on it.

#44206
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im following every threat that gives me hope for a better ending...i've read 100s of pages and u guys write faster than i can read btw... now everything got me thinking...
ok...now... im just thinking out loud (and writing it down, in not even my native language...)
oh, and if this got mentioned before somewhere just point me in that direction...
IF in fact the console version of the game is larger then the pc version that could mean that there is something on the disc that we dont know about...
when u look at your galaxy map, before you start the last mission, there are 4 reapers somewhere in some systems, but you cant go there...
If they release dlc only before the end actually happens...
could all that mean that after we play all their dlc we somehow unlock the real ending?

#44207
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ajunta_ wrote...

Mr Chr15topher wrote...

Cybermortis wrote...

Foxhound2121 wrote...

Where are our far eastern fleets? We got nothing but a western, sausage fest in here, or did the Aussies ban another game again.


The Asian players don't, for the most part, speak English - and therefore are not posting here. However they are saying exactly what everyone on here has said about the ending - In Japan the game is being called 'Rent Effect' apparently.

We do have Australians, New Zealanders and at least one person from India who have been posting. As well as Brazil, Russia and...well if ME3 was released in a country there are complains and people posting somewhere about them.

There was also a Ukranian on earlier today

Yeah, I'm still here. Been here for a week I think, holding the line for the 2nd largest European country alone :)


We're all here - from all over the world :D

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There's a chatroom up. http://tinychat.com/retakemasseffect

Also: http://r3stats.net

#44209
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Computim wrote...

WarBaby2 wrote...

TamiBx wrote...
Just simply say "thank you for your feedback" and ignore it. Seriously. It isn't worth it :P


Hu? Are we PrWare now?^^


Tami speaks wise words here, if you don't have a REALLY thick skin I would suggest not answering back.. you WILL get offended and take things personally and, since this movement has become our work, it will be REALLY hard to stay objective on it.  Rather then engage in a flame war it's best to just let the comments fade into obscurity if you're going to reply with anything besides polite responses, that's not PR, that's just courtesy to the person who took the time to comment, and courtesy to your fellow liners by not getting us all locked :)


Probably safest to assume that any Trolls are posting to try and get a raise out of us, so that someone can try and paint us as angry children.

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Giubba1985 wrote...

1.Who are you (majority) to deprive the minority of their enjoyment ?
So ****** off the minority because they are fewer or not so vocal (or both) until the majority can (maybe) reach their goal?

2.I'm not trying to do nothing, that's the point. I've not organized a counter mass riot for all this mess are you making, i don't have even the intention of losing time after something trivial like this matter but i found the arrogance that lay at the base of yours request quite insulting .


1. The minority always get p***ed on by the majority, that's just how the world works. We, however, are trying to find a way to get our enjoyment (which mostly means getting BioWare to fulfill it's pre-release promises) in a manner that doesn't detract from the minority's enjoyment.

Pre-release promises archived here: http://social.biowar...ndex/10056886/1

2. You are here spending time arguing with us, telling us that it is pointless to try to get the product we were promised. That seems pretty arrogant to me (not to mention time-consuming). Who are you to tell us that we should accept BioWare lying to us to sell us a product? Who are you to tell us that we shouldn't voice displeasure over getting a (in our eyes) broken product?

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Matt_gekko88 wrote...

Giubba1985 wrote...

1.Who are you (majority) to deprive the minority of their enjoyment ?
So ****** off the minority because they are fewer or not so vocal (or both) until the majority can (maybe) reach their goal?

2.I'm not trying to do nothing, that's the point. I've not organized a counter mass riot for all this mess are you making, i don't have even the intention of losing time after something trivial like this matter but i found the arrogance that lay at the base of yours request quite insulting .



Here we go again. "Arrogance" because we dare to complain over broken promises made by BioWare.
Again, in a market a customer has the right to demand later improvement if the product didn't fulfill what it should.
And again, BioWare always argued to listen to fan-feedback, to be a community-oriented developer. So, if we have the chance and possiblity to speak, why shouldn't we?


Not arrogance because you complain, but arrogance because you didn't halted for a split of second to think to what those who liked the ending will be influenced by this holy march of yours

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Giubba1985 wrote...

Arrogance at his best.

I'm confused. So what i have to expect a rewrite of the ending already in place or addings other ending ot those that are already inside the game?

You are part of the same group and you gave me two complitly different answer on how handle this thing of yours.
You want a rewrite?An add? Or everybody in this "hold the line" joke have his opinon on how integrate this change in the existing content?


We're sorry you're confused. We'll pass your message on to the founders. What did you like about the movement?

#44213
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Blackgate456 wrote...

Is there anything new that can give us hope? Most of the posts I read today only say that Bioware and EA are laying low and hope that all will be over soon. No tweet, no hopes for a dlc to fix this....is their anything what give you guys hope right now? Maybe it could bring back mine.... :-(



Maybe this will help
Michael Gamble[/b]

@GambleMike on his twiiter


Hardest. Day. Ever. Seriously, if you
people knew all the stuff we are planning...you'd, we'll - hold onto
your copy of me3 forever.

#44214
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Computim wrote...

WarBaby2 wrote...

TamiBx wrote...
Just simply say "thank you for your feedback" and ignore it. Seriously. It isn't worth it :P


Hu? Are we PrWare now?^^


Tami speaks wise words here, if you don't have a REALLY thick skin I would suggest not answering back.. you WILL get offended and take things personally and, since this movement has become our work, it will be REALLY hard to stay objective on it.  Rather then engage in a flame war it's best to just let the comments fade into obscurity if you're going to reply with anything besides polite responses, that's not PR, that's just courtesy to the person who took the time to comment, and courtesy to your fellow liners by not getting us all locked :)


Now this is good advice.

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Giubba1985 wrote...

Benirus wrote...

 Bioware, Mass Effect 1, Mass Effect 2, 95%
of Mass Effect 3, Shepard, the lies we where told, our love of the
series, our wallet and dignity to name a few.

Got any more questions?


Arrogance at his best.

Thore2k10 wrote...

we
dont want the old endings to vanish completely, just that new endings
are added. we want our choices throughout the games considered in the
ending not thrown out of the window by little deus ex machina of tall
deus ex machina!


Darkspazztic wrote...

See, we're not talking about getting rid of the ending and replacing it with something else, we're just asking to add on to it.

The
ME3 ending may have been amazing for you.  In that case,
congratulations.  I wish I could be as satisfied by it as you.  All
we're asking for is additions like closure, a potentially happy ending
where Shep doesn't die, and to see how our choices affected the universe
afterwards, which Bioware claimed they were going to do, yet didn't.

You can have your ending, and I'm glad that you liked it.

We just want *our* ending(s).

Thanks for your input!


I'm confused. So what i have to expect a rewrite of the ending already in place or addings other ending ot those that are already inside the game?

You are part of the same group and you gave me two complitly different answer on how handle this thing of yours.
You want a rewrite?An add? Or everybody in this "hold the line" joke have his opinon on how integrate this change in the existing content?


Part of the amazing thing on this movement is that we don't all agree on what we want, but we agree that what we have we don't like.  The consensus from the last 1600 pages is that Bioware needs to extend the ending such that the choices in the citadel kid scene don't become the culmination of the choices we've made in the last 3 games... also that they have more than 3 colours for the final cutscenes being the differences between them.

The way this will happen would most likely be DLC.. so ifyou LIKE the current ending, the way the majority here feel that it would be fixed, you could simply not download it, and you would have the same game you have now, and it would be as valid an ending as any they gave the rest of us :)

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DifferentD17 wrote...

I know I know, I just raged a bit there. I respectfully withdraw from combat for now, And I will stop firing on the geth dreadnaught while you're still on it.


It's ok, it happens to the best of us. 

I'm glad he liked the ending. And good for him that he wants to express his opinion, but I don't feel like explaining why we are here. He can read all the almost 2000 pages and he'll know. He can just read an article that doesn't go against us and he will know.
Plus we won't change his opinion (it didn't sound like he wanted it to be changed), so...

"Thanks for your opinion" :)

And his GW looked cool. Gotta give him that. 

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KuceJb wrote...

I'm commander Shepard and this is my favourite Maradeur Shields on the Citadel.



i think Maradeur Shields was the only Marauder...weel on the Citadel, he was the final BOSSSSSS B)

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chujwamdotego wrote...

Blackgate456 wrote...

Is there anything new that can give us hope? Most of the posts I read today only say that Bioware and EA are laying low and hope that all will be over soon. No tweet, no hopes for a dlc to fix this....is their anything what give you guys hope right now? Maybe it could bring back mine.... :-(



Maybe this will help
Michael Gamble[/b]

@GambleMike on his twiiter


Hardest. Day. Ever. Seriously, if you
people knew all the stuff we are planning...you'd, we'll - hold onto
your copy of me3 forever.


Bah! Twitter is just more PR running around, that can easily be taken as a reference to MP DLC or the rumored "Take back Omega" DLC.

#44219
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Giubba1985 wrote...

*snip*


Thank you for your feedback.

#44220
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Again i can only direct you to this post : http://social.biowar...ndex/10056886/1

I think it sum up pretty well our expectations.

Regards

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Anything new guys?

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Giubba1985 wrote...
Not arrogance because you complain, but arrogance because you didn't halted for a split of second to think to what those who liked the ending will be influenced by this holy march of yours


You could always just ignore possible ending DLC, it doesn't have to affect you at all.

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HITMAN629 wrote...

So whats our EMS score as of now?


Our Galactic Readiness is 110%

And our EMS IS OVER NINETHOUSAND!!

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can someone please relieve me of photoshop and illustrator and point me into the direction of a pasttime or hobby that doesn't involve rage, anger, frustration and files that take 5 minutes to save because i have way too many layers and anchors? i would have played a game for a while- but oh yeah, right.. that's pretty much the same these days.

and news on the front?

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Kenkimaru wrote...

HITMAN629 wrote...

So whats our EMS score as of now?


Our Galactic Readiness is 110%

And our EMS IS OVER NINE THOUSAND!!


What?! Nine thousand? There's no way that can be right!!