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Goodwood

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Gotta give props to whoever came up with r3stats.net.

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Alamandorious

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And I return to the line.

How goes peeps? We still holding strong? Any news?

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i just wanted to make a joke Image IPB

Modifié par Kenkimaru, 18 mars 2012 - 07:55 .


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Bubi7 wrote...
If you don't like peanut butter, don't eat it.


Oh my dear sweet Jesus who doesn't like peanut butter?!

Besides all those poor unfortunate souls that have an allergy. :crying:

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stucksuburbanite

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Hydralysk wrote...

chujwamdotego wrote...

Blackgate456 wrote...

Is there anything new that can give us hope? Most of the posts I read today only say that Bioware and EA are laying low and hope that all will be over soon. No tweet, no hopes for a dlc to fix this....is their anything what give you guys hope right now? Maybe it could bring back mine.... :-(



Maybe this will help
Michael Gamble[/b]

@GambleMike on his twiiter


Hardest. Day. Ever. Seriously, if you
people knew all the stuff we are planning...you'd, we'll - hold onto
your copy of me3 forever.


Bah! Twitter is just more PR running around, that can easily be taken as a reference to MP DLC or the rumored "Take back Omega" DLC.


I actually cannot find that tweet anymore.  Has anyone else seen it in awhile?

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Just wanted to add my name to the disappointed players list.

I have put in over 300 hours over the 3 games, and I can say with all honesty they have been some of the most enjoyable I have spent in front of my screen. That was up until the last few moments of ME3.

I can live with the starchild AI, and the A,B,C choice even if I don't feel it was the best way to end the game. I can even live with the relays being destroyed in the process, and the fleet having to use the FTL drives to get around the galaxy. However I just couldn't suspend my belief when I see the Normandy, in mid relay flight, crashing on some unknown world and then joker and 2 squadmates jump out, including Tali my Shepards LI and final assault squadmate. I mean WTF! i was just left scratching my head wondering how did she get aboard and why was the Normandy in mid jump?

Iv seen the Indoctrination theory's and while I would like it to be true, I think thats just hope on our part and the disappointment I feel is just down to poor writing which was probably rushed to meet the release deadline.

Right now all we can do is hope Bioware do care about its loyal customers, and will listen to us and make the changes we are asking for. Just like Shepard, right now, all we have is hope.

Hold the line.

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chujwamdotego wrote...

Michael Gamble[/b]

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Hardest. Day. Ever. Seriously, if you
people knew all the stuff we are planning...you'd, we'll - hold onto
your copy of me3 forever.


I want to believe that sooo much! Lol

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Estonian fleet loging of for the night.

Cya all and keep fighting the good fight!

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Alamandorious wrote...

And I return to the line.

How goes peeps? We still holding strong? Any news?


Still going it appears. How are plans for the statement of interests going?

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chujwamdotego wrote...

Blackgate456 wrote...

Is there anything new that can give us hope? Most of the posts I read today only say that Bioware and EA are laying low and hope that all will be over soon. No tweet, no hopes for a dlc to fix this....is their anything what give you guys hope right now? Maybe it could bring back mine.... :-(



Maybe this will help
Michael Gamble[/b]

@GambleMike on his twiiter


Hardest. Day. Ever. Seriously, if you
people knew all the stuff we are planning...you'd, we'll - hold onto
your copy of me3 forever.


I can't seem to find this one on his twitter? Or is it a fake?

#44261
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Computim wrote...

I always wondered when Shepard found the time to put those together... He/She was supposed to be fighting a war


Answer; Space Magic! :wizard:

It had to be said ;)


I always assumed that he bought them for the space hamster to put together.....

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 Hi there...I'm..well I'm putting my mail to BioWare out here,  in case some of you might want to read it. It is quite personal, but I hope that you will approve of what I wrote.


"Dear Bioware,


I've been an avid follower of your work for a very long time. In fact, it started with Baldur's Gate, which I came to play solely for the reason of it taking part in the D&D universe. But after only playing some minutes of it, I was drawn in by the game itself. Ever since I've been playing every game of yours and loved doing so (exceptions to this are Jade Empire and SWTOR).Baldur's Gate I and II entangled me with their stories, freedom and the degree of freedom, which for the time was amazingly big. Neverwinter Nights lost many of those - in my opinion - but told an excellent story and gave the community a tool to tell their own stories. Dragon Age: Origins created a universe many people have come to love for the level of detail that was put in the game.


And then there is Mass Effect. I have to admit, at first I wasn't interested in the game, as I've never been much of a fan of science fiction. But as soon as a friend literally shoved that game into my face and I started playing it, I was enthralled. They degree of freedom again and this time on a much larger scale than Baldur's Gate. My choices having an effect - which was one of the things I loved about Fallout 2 - was mind-blowing and the level of orchestration was simply overwhelming. When I heard that I could transfer my character into the next game - just like Baldur's Gate - but this time it would effect the second game - unlike Baldur's Gate - I was genuinely excited! I devoured Mass Effect 2 as I had no other game. And the thought that the third part would be affected by both was just...wow.


I felt in love with the whole series. I became an actual fan and would sink time into studying the Mass Effect univere's history. I connected to my characters like never before.


And then there it was. Mass Effect 3 was about to be released. I literally counted the days to its release. I even took holidays from Friday (which I incorrectly thought was the release date in europe) up to the coming tuesday, so that I would be able to enjoy this game in its entirety, without being interrupted or side-tracked by anything else. I've bought the game on thursday evening - as soon as I found out that it was actually released on thursday - and started playing.I squealed when EDI got her body. I was deeply moved when Mordin Solis sacrificed himself for the Krogans to cure the genophage. I was overjoyed and squealing again as soon as I met Tali and I did everything possible to get EDI and Joker together. I fought viciously for the Geth to survive and bring them together with the Quarians. And I cried when Legion gave his life for the whole of the Geth. This - for me - was the most moving, touching and all-in-all best scene I have seen in any game to date! Hell, I still start to cry when I see that cut-scene on youTube. At this moment, I felt true game-story perfection (btw I got the Quarians and the Geth to cooperate).


And then it came. The thing that I never thought would happen. Something made me despise the whole ME franchise for days. I was lethargic, I was enraged, I was unsatisfied. I searched for others on the forums to see if I might be wrong. If I am just a singular voice with my opinion or that I made something wrong and got the wrong ending. But the more I read, the more I became aware that it was reality. You probably know what I am talking about - probably guessed so right from the beginning. Mass Effect 3's ending. It took a bit of me away. I felt cheated, lied to and betrayed. The one game producer that always excelled at story-telling created an ending that was just not right. There were plot-holes, not a lot diversity, there even seemed to be a lack of interest or effort. Everything I did, everything that happened - saving the Rachni Queen, curing the Genophage, Legion sacrificing himself for the Geth - had absolutely no impact in the Ending. I could've gone full Renegade throughout the series, or picked choices randomly, and I still would've gotten the same Ending that I got. And what hurt most is that I was told - by BioWare officials - that my decisions would matter. That the Endings would be diverse and depend on my decisions.


I spent my precious holidays, my precious time and my even more precious emotions on this game and all the faith I had was shattered in mere 15 minutes. I am sorry to say all this. I don't want to chastise the games company that brought me so many hours of joy. But my personal life has been in turmoil ever since. I hold the line because I don't want to give up on you. I hold the line so I and many many fans - if not most of them - will get the Ending we feel we deserve.


Please don't let Mordin's and Legion's sacrifice be in vain. Please don't disregard our decisions throughout the whole game. Please, don't turn your back on your fanbase that went through thick-and-thin with you, and abandon us now, in our direst hour, where we need YOU more than ever, to give us a ray of hope that what we believed in, and what we cherished, was good and right. Don't be our Illusive Man, but be our Shepard. Let us find closure.


With all respect and a broken heart,yours sincerely..."



Holding the line until the very end,

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Modifié par wickermoon, 18 mars 2012 - 08:02 .


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the crazy chikn

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To all those losing hope for the fight to retake ME3, we can't give up!  We need to keep our opinions known and circulating throughout the forums and other social/media sites.  If we give up, then we will see the franchise we know and love fade in to time, and the glory of the series will be forever overshadowed by a series of unfortunate, anti-climactic, and unsatisfying endings. 

The end of ME3 did no justice to the series that should have gone down in history as one of the best sci-fi trilogies in ever, but if we keep up the push, if we keep fighting for the endings we know this series deserves, we may yet see our beloved games adorn the halls of fame!  WE can not give up! 

What would your Shepard do? Would he bow down and accept defeat? Would he let his beliefs be compromised by seemingly undefeatable odds?  Or would he stand up, and fight for what he believes in?  My Shepard would fight until the last breath for his beliefs and I will too.  I refuse to let Shepards story, MY story, end like this! 

If the worldwide outcry of countless  voices fades, then we all will have lost; both EA/BioWare and the unsatisfied consumers.  Please, keep fighting for what you belive in, no matter your position in this struggle, and show EA/BioWare that THEIR loyal fans are fighting for their game and ours.

Show them that it is worth fighting for!

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DJBare wrote...

Okay folks, not everyone is going to agree, that's the reality of life, heck we'd get nothing done without disagreement, life would just become stagnant.

But I would say we are not trying to get the ending rewritten, we want extra endings, other path's.

So suck it up soldiers, holster those weapons and show the opposition that we also stand with them.


Thank you for your opinion! 

LOL Jk. :P

Yeah, I agree with you. I mean, I don't mind if they get rid of the current endings, but I know I won't get mad if they just add new ones.
Plus it will be opitional, so...whoever likes it can just not get it. 

#44265
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Archangel MoX wrote...

Just wanted to add my name to the disappointed players list.

I have put in over 300 hours over the 3 games, and I can say with all honesty they have been some of the most enjoyable I have spent in front of my screen. That was up until the last few moments of ME3.

I can live with the starchild AI, and the A,B,C choice even if I don't feel it was the best way to end the game. I can even live with the relays being destroyed in the process, and the fleet having to use the FTL drives to get around the galaxy. However I just couldn't suspend my belief when I see the Normandy, in mid relay flight, crashing on some unknown world and then joker and 2 squadmates jump out, including Tali my Shepards LI and final assault squadmate. I mean WTF! i was just left scratching my head wondering how did she get aboard and why was the Normandy in mid jump?

Iv seen the Indoctrination theory's and while I would like it to be true, I think thats just hope on our part and the disappointment I feel is just down to poor writing which was probably rushed to meet the release deadline.

Right now all we can do is hope Bioware do care about its loyal customers, and will listen to us and make the changes we are asking for. Just like Shepard, right now, all we have is hope.

Hold the line.


Welcome aboard, Archangel MoX!

We could use someone on the right flank to help bolster the barriers, care to assist?

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Wow.. my dates were completely off.. nevermind.

Modifié par Computim, 18 mars 2012 - 07:58 .


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Aeyl wrote...

Alamandorious wrote...

And I return to the line.

How goes peeps? We still holding strong? Any news?


Still going it appears. How are plans for the statement of interests going?


I'm going to record the mission statement and put it up on youtube; easy enough.

Tomorrow when I can actually speak in a normal voice, and have time to actually try out a few different approaches I'll post the long one up.

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Xyalon

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Rubmifer wrote...

chujwamdotego wrote...

Blackgate456 wrote...

Is there anything new that can give us hope? Most of the posts I read today only say that Bioware and EA are laying low and hope that all will be over soon. No tweet, no hopes for a dlc to fix this....is their anything what give you guys hope right now? Maybe it could bring back mine.... :-(



Maybe this will help
Michael Gamble[/b]

@GambleMike on his twiiter


Hardest. Day. Ever. Seriously, if you
people knew all the stuff we are planning...you'd, we'll - hold onto
your copy of me3 forever.


I can't seem to find this one on his twitter? Or is it a fake?


I misread that as "we'll hold onto your copy of ME3 forever"

#44269
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Noted, Computim.

Then again, to be perfectly honest I don't expect BioWare to commit to anything before the PAX East event.

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 Reviewers play many games, very many... and I totally understand how they get bored with the same approaches with regards to the ending. ME3 must have been a god-send for many of them.

Not to me. 

I play(ed) BioWare games. From BG to ME3, and I have always been satisfied. If not totally won over. *Cough* DA2 *Cough*.


When I first played, and finished ME1, I was on top of the world. Happy, elated, satisfied, the words do not seem to suffice. I played it again, and again. Paragon/Renegade/inbetween. 


When I first played, and finished ME2, I was very satisfied. It was fun, enjoyable, heroic. Could even be tragic, yet accomplished.  All my Shepards followed with.


When I first played, and finished ME3, I was empty. I did not know what I felt. Anger, resentment, disappointment, the words do not seem to suffice. I have not played the game in a week, nor any others for that matter.



Your story was about Shepard. But over 3 games, and many playthroughs, he became me. His actions were mine, his disappointments were mine. His accomplishments were mine. When I arrive at the end, only to see that my entire journey is invalidated no matter what I do, I feel empty.

I know that many agree and disagree with me. That is very fair. But this is how I feel. It simply was not worth it. I would actually prefer not to have played the series at all... how insane is that? 10 minutes completely ruining 150+ hours of fun, laughter, sadness, excitement and enjoyment? It should not be possible! 


But it is





And I wish so dearly that it wasn't :(


Hold the line

Modifié par sveners, 18 mars 2012 - 07:59 .


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Computim wrote...

Just would like to give all the international line holders a heads up. Next weekend is a long weekend in Canada. We have Good Friday (23 March) off as well as a lot of us have Easter Monday (26 March) off. So don't expect much out of Bioware next weekend especially as it's government mandated holidays in a lot of cases.


Wait. I thought Easter was in April this year...or is it different in Canada?
(Like Thanksgiving)


EDIT: oh, you fixed it. Hahah. That's fine 

Modifié par TamiBx, 18 mars 2012 - 07:59 .


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Giubba1985 wrote...

I'm sorry but i have to ask this question to those who support this thing.

Who gave you the right to force bioware to change the ending that i've enjoyed so much?
It would make you feel proud to force something over people that doesn't share your opinion?


You have the right to your
opinion just as we have the right to ours. You have the right to express yours,
as do we. It just seems that there are more of us that dislike what we received
than those that like. /Shrug

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Bruinbear wrote...

chujwamdotego wrote...

Michael Gamble[/b]

@GambleMike on his twiiter


Hardest. Day. Ever. Seriously, if you
people knew all the stuff we are planning...you'd, we'll - hold onto
your copy of me3 forever.


I want to believe that sooo much! Lol


you know what? I BELIEVE!

#44274
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Vox Draco wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

Giubba1985 wrote...
Not arrogance because you complain, but arrogance because you didn't halted for a split of second to think to what those who liked the ending will be influenced by this holy march of yours


You could always just ignore possible ending DLC, it doesn't have to affect you at all.


Arrogance...hmm...I'd rather call it confusion on my behalf: I simple cannot understand how anyone can be satisfied with the current conclusion of this epic trilogy. It doesn't get into my head. It is like watching Star Wars and in the end we just switch over to Matrix meeting 2001. It doesn't fit.

And I doubt that there are more people worldwide liking the Ending than there are pages in this thread. And I am pretty sure that, in contrast to the page-count, this number is rather decreasing instead of growing...Image IPB

But to each his own opinion. But I can't see how a possible Ending-DLC, hopefully with a big battle against the reapers or something...can hurt anyone...


What can i say? I liked the ending, i loved the bittersweetnes of both end i saw.

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Speaking of the mission statement, can someone link me to the thread >.<