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[Hydralysk]

I'm sorry but I'm gonna post this again because it just fits WAY too well with our current situation and makes me laugh.

www.youtube.com/watch

Modifié par Hydralysk, 18 mars 2012 - 11:21 .

[Conspicuous Cake]

I'll be off for a bit while I have dinner.

Keep on being civil!
No bashing!
And hold the line!

[Bionic Weapon]

DJBare wrote...

Relshar wrote...

So Earth and the planet Joke landed on was destroyed by the explosion as I understand it. So what happens when you see Shepard take that final breath ? Shouldn't he/she be dead as well in the explosion ?

Your theory does not make sense in accordance to how the Mass Relays worked.

What he is saying, is that's where just one of the gaping plot holes lie.

Exactly it's that no one should be alive and yet when the relays blew up there was still an earth and other systems left. They would of been obliterated. I think that is what was meant.

Me personally would of done this: when that signal/ beam went out through all the relays I would of had it drain all the element zero from each relay, so that way they still are preserved but out of commission until more can be found.

Hope that makes sense. 

Modifié par Bionic Weapon, 18 mars 2012 - 11:23 .

[MeldarthX]

CitadelSurfer wrote...

 I have just completed this. And I knew there was this argument on the forums about how poor the ending was and I was just thinking it's a bunch of whiny ****s. After seeing how bad the ending was and now looking at the amount of threads regarding this I now realise bioware should really do something about this. It was absolutely shocking. It has really started to make me think about some of these reviews are getting paid for these high scores. Especially IGN. Given the guy who did the review did the mass effect wiki on IGN he should know full well how **** the ending was. 

BIOWARE SORT IT OUT! I'm so pissed off tha Shepard dies and have little knowledge of who in my crew survived etc etc. Also where the **** did my squadmates go? They were running with me Liara and garrus into the teleporter thing on Earth and then suddenly they are nowhere to be seen. Then miraculously they are back on the normandy and on a distant synthetic planet? So retarded.

*hands you a rifle* welcome Soldier.........bar and food is other there.......together ....

WE HOLD THE LINE

[Prince Lex]

ATTENTION PEOPLE!

Can everyone PLEASE vote in this poll? Recognition by IGN in a positive form would vastly increase our armada . They can't bash us if we appear as the majority on their poll.

https://www.facebook...50639359051633/

[Cro730]

nearly 40k "likes" on facebook and 65k on donations for child's play.
Keep it up guys we are still growing!

[SpuDSheraM]

MeldarthX wrote...

Guys I just posted this in the BW/EA in full PR Damage Control......

Baineblade wrote...

Carnage752 wrote...

Baineblade wrote...

I have to be honest with you all. I can't hold the line anymore. I want to advance, and I want to keep advancing. I take a lot of my philosophy from many people throughout history, and one of those people was the man who made the following quote:

"Now there's another thing I want you to remember. I don't want to get any messages saying that "we are holding our position." We're not holding anything. Let the Hun do that. We are advancing constantly and we're not interested in holding onto anything except the enemy. We're going to hold onto him by the nose and we're going to kick him in the ass. We're going to kick the hell out of him all the time and we're going to go through him like crap through a goose!" -General George S. Patton, Commanding Officer, Third Army Group, United States Armed Forces Europe.

In many ways sitting on the defensive is all well and good, you always have the advantage against the attack, but you apply constant and unrelenting pressure upon your enemy, their defenses will become moot, begin to crumble, and soon they'll either be in full retreat, or will surrender. At this point, we can no longer just "hold the line". We MUST as a matter of survival and to bring about an eventual end to this internet conflict, advance, and keep building the pressure, keep forcing the issue into the light, at no point should we, as Patton himself stated, report in that we're holding our position. Let EA and Bioware do that.



The statement is just a symbol. We have been on the offensive for quite awhile.



"On the offensive" to a limited point, so far the BSN forums have been flooded, the story is only now getting headline news coverage, and people are only just beginning to build the momentum up more and more. The pressure in truth needs to be increased near ten fold. Mailing campaigns, word of mouth, all the recent suggestions of getting the word out, need to be increased ten fold. Email every tech gaming website out there, show them what's going on, how large the community actually is, get the message out there, and more will come.
Yet, be reasonable, dont make assumptions that just because people are starting to come round that we're winning. This battle is FAR from finished and it's barely begun, start cranking out flyers and going to your local game stores, ask the manager to read it over and if you can post it in their window or at their front desk. If they don't want you to do such, then thank them for their time and look elsewhere to get the message out. Facebook and Child's play have been good starts, but the message hasn't gone out as far as most would hope.



I know people are trying to get of the Daily show and Colbert Report - in the UK several are writing the newspapers along with BBC - ITV - we have another that knows Johnathon Ross - TV presenter and big ME fan - along with Vin Diseal*sp* they are getting ahold of them to get their take and present our case.

We're now hitting main stream news - not just as a side note but full on stories. Fox, CNN, MSNBC - Forbes keeps writing articles in our favor.

We keep things civil; respectable - I've played every single BW game out there - there is some DLC I don't own; but will gladly buy if they fix this. I'm subbed to TOR - which I will end unless this is resolved with a expanded ending.

I am very much invested; repeat customer of BW and EA - I want to get Kindoms of An*sp* I'm hearing great things about it.......along with Synidicate - I loved the original. I can't though and won't. BW won't get anymore nor will EA - I have a lot of friends who are just about to beat this game and they are going what did I just see? What ending was that?? That makes no sense......

I WILL HOLD THE LINE - as the IDEA for multiplayer - I will create a character or a few that say - Expand the Ending - HOLD THE LINE - spread the word that way - We are here for the long term. Lots are saying well people will get bored and move on. I don't think so this time - there is too much love for this universe - too much time - we've invested ourselves into these stories and helped create them.

BW has show they will listen - allowing Garrus and Tali to be romancable from ME2 - they have changed and fixed cannon in their book - Despection. I have hope - I know at times when working on a project as a writer it can be hard to take hard criticism - but to be a good/great writer you need to know when to listen. Then go you know - you're right lets do this.

Some of the most famous authors have rewritten their works or changed them - Shakespear was known for it - took fans 10 years; but they got Sherlock back.......

We're not the first to be here; nor will we be the last - but we're are changing the rules and writing what will happen. Continue the push; Continue to HOLD THE LINE.

Most of all; be excellent to each other -

I do very much agree with all of this, very well said!
But most of all we need to keep things civil and respectable
spread the word as much as can be done and of course.. HOLD THE LINE 

[Auralius Carolus]

Alright, what are all you delinquents doing? I leave you guys alone just long enough to grab some hours at work, and what happens? My chicken wings disappear!

[PurpleWhisper]

Iucounou wrote...

PurpleWhisper wrote...

Still holding the line. Still depressed. I loved playing Mass Effect, it was literally my favourite series but now after the ending I really don't feel like I can ever play it again. If I played ME3 now it would just feel like one long death-march to the end. Would it have killed them to create just *one* happy ending where Shep lives and is reunited with LI? Just one bioware...

No, it wouldn't and they could still have made it bittersweet by having Shepard and his LI the only survivors if they really wanted to do that.

Choice, or lack thereof, is at the heart of this whole fiasco. They promised it to us, and then took it away at the end. All of which, as you say, makes the entire series meaningless and empty.

Thanks, this is why i'm glad I found this thread, to know im not alone in my frustrations. In dragon age we had the option to die a hero or to live and run off with the LI and there were many others endings to. To know how easily they could have catered for everyone and just chose not to makes it all the more disappointing. After 3 games I think Shep deserves a chance at a happier ending.

Modifié par PurpleWhisper, 18 mars 2012 - 11:25 .

[Computim]

Auralius Carolus wrote...

Alright, what are all you delinquents doing? I leave you guys alone just long enough to grab some hours at work, and what happens? My chicken wings disappear!

*looks around with a half eaten chicken bone sticking out of mouth*, "mmffh I haf no idea mffh what you're talking about mffhr"

[Gardner295]

Italian Fleet Member #2 is signing off.
I'll report later, when consensus will be achieved.
Bye everyone and Hold the Line

[SpuDSheraM]

https://www.facebook...50639359051633/

[TheBull]

Angry Joe just posted his New Video

10 REASONS WHY WE HATE THE MASS EFFECT 3 ENDINGS

http://angryjoeshow....fect-3s-ending/

[SpuDSheraM]

this thread is growing at a tremendous rate, every time I try to read a page i get behind by five!
Keep it up everybody!

[Sacred Of the Grey Wardens]

Computim wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

Alright, what are all you delinquents doing? I leave you guys alone just long enough to grab some hours at work, and what happens? My chicken wings disappear!

*looks around with a half eaten chicken bone sticking out of mouth*, "mmffh I haf no idea mffh what you're talking about mffhr"

*hides other chicken wing behind her* Yeah, no idea....

[Doppelgaenger]

Debi-Tage wrote...

Please take this new poll!

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/552764

Next time there needs to be the iclusion of "none/don't know/something different/no answer" as a possible answer. Because I distinctly want not to buy ANYTHING in the future as long as this is not fixed.

[DJBare]

MeldarthX wrote...

I have to be honest with you all. I can't hold the line anymore. I want to advance, and I want to keep advancing. I take a lot of my philosophy from many people throughout history, and one of those people was the man who made the following quote:

"Now there's another thing I want you to remember. I don't want to get any messages saying that "we are holding our position." We're not holding anything. Let the Hun do that. We are advancing constantly and we're not interested in holding onto anything except the enemy. We're going to hold onto him by the nose and we're going to kick him in the ass. We're going to kick the hell out of him all the time and we're going to go through him like crap through a goose!" -General George S. Patton, Commanding Officer, Third Army Group, United States Armed Forces Europe.

We use the phrase "hold the line" and we speak in military terms, that does not mean however we are at war with Bioware, a war with Bioware would only go badly for us, you know yourself if people get wrapped up in their passions this will turn into a sh*tstorm, many sites are still calling us whiners and entitled brats, if we go on the offensive and people start to become abusive towards Bioware, then we've already lost.

[Cro730]

Prince Lex wrote...

ATTENTION PEOPLE!

Can everyone PLEASE vote in this poll? Recognition by IGN in a positive form would vastly increase our armada . They can't bash us if we appear as the majority on their poll.

https://www.facebook...50639359051633/

This should be posted every hour or so, for people checking in as well as forum lurkers.
This needs to be made known.

[Kenkimaru]

Debi-Tage wrote...

Please take this new poll!

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/552764

Thanks!

Hold the Line

[Generic Name]

SpuDSheraM wrote...

this thread is growing at a tremendous rate, every time I try to read a page i get behind by five!
Keep it up everybody!

It must really suck to always be in a state of catching up. I couldn't even get through the 40 pages that happened over night. I had to read them in two seperate sittings <_<.

[Alamandorious]

Alright ladies and gents, fellow gamers and lovers of the Mass Effect franchise (because, let's face it; if we didn't love it, we wouldn't be this upset over the endings and broken promises).

I'm pleased to say that we continue to hold the line, that more and more media assets and war assets are coming on line in our support...that we vastly outnumber our detractors, and that we have continued to be a paragon of civil gamer protest the likes of which the internet has never seen.

One way or the other, we are making history here folks; never before has there been this much media attention focused on something which is, quite honestly, a historic moment for video games in general.

In ages past, we've been forced to endure things like what happened here...only before, there were no specific promises made. Before, the endings were generally static, and the stories that we played and fought through generally worked with them.

Sometimes, that wasn't the case....sometimes, game developers harkened back to the old NES days where you got a brief 'game over' blurb, along with perhaps a short ending clip to go along with it.

All this time, we've stayed silent because, well...it was just a game. It wasn't a product we purchased, it wasn't something material...it was just a game.

And for years and years, we've had the same thing rehashed at us over and over again...the same basic concepts, only with different characters, different models...and at first, that was enough. When that was no longer enough, when the stories were truly predictable, they used creative script writing to mask the same contents all over again...and again, we were satisfied with this for a time.

The few that were upset with the games were generally few, rude, and better off ignored because their complaints were minor...at the least, they seemed that way because of the manner of their presentation; 'you suxors' or 'I h4t3 u' style that showed incredibly immaturity.

Then DLC appeared....swathes of new game content that, once upon a time, would have been packaged together on an expansion CD that was sold for about $20 dollars total, or included as part of the game initially...or even patched in for free. Now, it was being sold for $10 dollars a pop, and only contained parts of what would have once been included. Of course, this wasn't entirely bad; sometimes this let us miss things that weren't any good, so we tolerated it.

Then came the Mass Effect series. A game which, because of the way our choices influenced and changed events both minor and major in very personalized ways (within the limits of current technology), was extremely cutting-edge. Other games have come close to the level of choice that Mass Effect has in determining how we impact the story, but none can truly match it.

We played it, we loved it, we replayed it again and again to see how different decisions would influence the game world...how each choice in Mass Effect 1 would influence Mass Effect 2, how both games would influence Mass Effect 3 when it came out...

And then, after much hype and promises from the Devs, the Mass Effect 3 release day came at last...and it was -glorious- (sorry, this just fits, I know it sounds preachy lol).

It seemed that Bioware was prepared to be a shining paragon for video gaming not seen since the early days, when there was much innovation...everything about the game clicked, everything seemed to work flawlessly (well, as flawlessly as a day-1 release ever is these days)...it seemed that they had been true to their word, and we were -ecstatic-.

Then, we got to the end...and as each new wave of gamers has finished, their cries have joined our own in a massive world-wide cry of 'WTF!?'

If this works, even partially, it's setting an example that game companies will now have to follow; listening to their customers when enough of them are angry. Bioware, if they listen to us, will likely become an industry leader...not just because of its talented creative staff...not -just- because of the high quality games it has, and will produce...

But because it will be the first to have created this level of passion for its products, and the first to respond to that passion.

Bethesda added to Fallout 3 to appease fans who wanted to keep playing after the end...and wanted a better ending...

Bioware will be the first to actually alter a game ending because its fans and customers declare that what they have done has hurt something so valuable, because the fans and customers say it wasn't good enough, because the fans and customers say

'Bioware, you must do better! You have DONE better, do not stumble now! We believe in you'.

And so WE, as gamers, must keep doing better ourselves...we must learn, as we have been in the days since this all began, to keep a mature and level head when expressing our dislike for something...

Retake Mass Effect, we are laying the framework for the future. Here. Now.

Hold the line.

[Prince Lex]

Cro730 wrote...

Prince Lex wrote...

ATTENTION PEOPLE!

Can everyone PLEASE vote in this poll? Recognition by IGN in a positive form would vastly increase our armada . They can't bash us if we appear as the majority on their poll.

https://www.facebook...50639359051633/

This should be posted every hour or so, for people checking in as well as forum lurkers.
This needs to be made known.

I'll repost it every half hour if it hasn't been mentioned, I spend my life F5'ing this thread these days

[DifferentD17]

Almost 1800, another 200 and we're at 2000. Just this morning the thread was at 1700 I think...Good job guys HOLD THE LINE!

[Xyalon]

Relshar wrote...

LadyMarisa wrote...

Relshar wrote...

The sacrifice that was spoken was the destruction of all the races mass relays which means people are going to be stranded galaxy wide.

Nah, almost no one is stranded. Bioware already made it clear in The Arrival (ME2 DLC) that destroying mass relays destroys most if not all of the star system. With the size of the explosions at the ending of 3 and the fact that you can *see* these explosions from a *galaxy map* type of view, means you've destroyed more than the Reapers ever would have.

So Earth and the planet Joke landed on was destroyed by the explosion as I understand it. So what happens when you see Shepard take that final breath ? Shouldn't he/she be dead as well in the explosion ?

Your theory does not make sense in accordance to how the Mass Relays worked.

I for one do not actually have a problem with the mass relay destruction theory. Yes, The Arrival DLC showed that if you crashed a giant asteroid into a hitherto believed indestructable Mass Relay then the resulting explosion would wipe out the system the relay was placed in.

If we accept Starchild's story for a second that a) he exists and he is the citadel then he is Reaper Tech, just as the Citadel is and the Mass Relays are. As such, it would be possible for whatever flavour beam they send out to merely cause the mass effect field in the mass relay to destabalize and shut down. The Mass Relay would be destroyed in the resulting explosing due to the immense heat release from the reaction, but the explosions would be localised.  If they were actually huge explosions you would see a marked change in the composition of the galaxy as it would cause billions of supernovae to happen all at once, and once you had unwelded the eyeballs from the back of your skull, most of the milkyway would be cosmic dust and no stars. The Arrival deals purely with the premature cessation of a Mass Relay using the power of inertia, rather than a self destruct cycle. Like the difference between using a wrecking ball to take apart an ikea table and an screwdriver.

The expanding spheres of coloured sparkly whizz are not, as a result, the fiery progress of an explosions, but rather a shockwave of space magic which, depending on your flavour, is either:

R) the mother of all EMPs wiping out all synthetic life (and consequently all VIs and electronics aboard all spacefaring vessels and pretty much anything else in the galaxy which uses anything more advanced than clockwork),

a carrier signal which changes the control orders in giant robots we were previously led to believe as sentient, but are obviously nothing more than VIs or remote control space squid.

or 

G) has the amazing capability to transform organic material (such as, say, hydrocarbons) into part synthetic material, not by altering their molecular composition but by merely re-writing DNA. It can do this to the DNA of synthetics too in order to...no, wait....


So, yeah, Mass Relays don't go boom. Doesn't get you out of the sparkly whizz space magic problems though BioWare, sorry, I'm stumped on that one.

Modifié par Xyalon, 18 mars 2012 - 11:33 .

[IxSITHxI]

Debi-Tage wrote...

Please take this new poll!

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/552764

Very good poll. Keep this circulating around the forum. It only has about 40 people filling it out