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[Dean_the_Young]

turian councilor Knockout wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

turian councilor Knockout wrote...

Oh but they made one just for you isn't that generous you should thank them or should i file a complaint to bioware ?

Who said they made one just for me?

 none but you're one of them apparently, congrats:huh:

The answer to the first is 'you', the answer to the second point is 'wrong.'

[MJF JD]

i dont even mind if shepard dies, i am willing to make that sacrifice, but i dont see why my crew has to get stranded on some random paradise planet that is apparently never found.

[Mims]

DiegoProgMetal wrote...

The epilogue pretty much invalidates this. :[ Honestly, the epilogue is what screws things up.

[Teredan]

Nathan Redgrave wrote...

I'm not actually trying to contest the point made by this particular post, but questions were asked that I felt inclined to answer anyway...

Teredan wrote...

How is the ME2 everyone survived not happy?

You thwarted a Reaper plot that had already reduced tens of thousands of people to genetic paste, and you still have the prospect of a full-on Reaper invasion in the not-too-distant future. "Happy" that is not, nor an ending. I would call it more of a best-case scenario than a happy ending, where you know things couldn't have been better under the circumstances and could have in fact gone a lot worse.

How is the DA ending (which had varying degrees of "good") not happy?

Because regardless of happiness levels, Grey Wardens go insane within three decades and are expected to commit ritual suicide by throwing themselves into a hopeless battle at that time.

So no matter what happens, your character is fudged. Except it doesn't come out as fudge, now, does it?

Ok and why is giving players an ending where shepard is reunited with his LI and has some closure with his crew with the mass relays still destroyed leaving the galaxy in a infrastructural mess in a time where so many planets have been wrecked by the reapers any less "happy"? It certainly would appease a lot more people than the endings do now.

[Ghost Rider LSOV]

scotkrow wrote...

Has anyone thought that this is bioware's game and story, we are only the fans, they can do what they want with their story.

But Han shot first!

Oh wait...

[scotkrow]

Luc0s wrote...

scotkrow wrote...

Has anyone thought that this is bioware's game and story, we are only the fans,

We are not "only" their fans, we are the most important thing to BioWare, EVER.

A video-game or company without a fanbase won't survive for long. BioWare needs us and they know it.

Yeah read the rest of what I said, also on the previous page read what I said, and then sit and think for an hour or two until it all sinks into your thick head, and come up with a responce.

[Arch1eviathan]

turian councilor Knockout wrote...

Smecky Kitteh wrote...

turian councilor Knockout wrote...

Smecky Kitteh wrote...

turian councilor Knockout wrote...

Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

turian councilor Knockout wrote...
not everything is sunshine and happiness, DEAL WITH IT

Yup, but I play video games to forget how crappy real life can be at times.

And now all hope is out and the only cure is ....... yes that's right 

Romance novels?

no something even more romantic called suicide with your LI in ME 3. 

Great! so do I remove Tali's mask before or after the stories climax?

After ofc what's the point of doing it in life aside from seeing that your lovely LI is actually uglier than a hagraven with tummy ache  from skyrim 

And here I was expecting her to be a high elf.Oh the deception it hurts!

[turian councilor Knockout]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

turian councilor Knockout wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

turian councilor Knockout wrote...

Oh but they made one just for you isn't that generous you should thank them or should i file a complaint to bioware ?

Who said they made one just for me?

 none but you're one of them apparently, congrats:huh:

The answer to the first is 'you', the answer to the second point is 'wrong.'

Only problem is that i'm no one just a imagination and the second ah well we can't always be right.

[Dean_the_Young]

magnuskn wrote...

That was pretty weak-sauce. "So, yeah, those endings were perfectly happy... but focus on what happens afterwards, when we cannot see it anymore!" And Arrival was a DLC, which entered the picture long after the game came out.

A game which ends before the enemy even arrives, and then the extension in which mass murder is required for salvation, is not an optimistic ending.

DA:O had a perfectly happy ending, with the slight ominous undertone of Morrigan disappearing with her demon child.

And those other pesky bitter pills to swallow.

If you didn't care, you didn't care. But that doesn't mean they weren't there.

[Eclipse_9990]

scotkrow wrote...

Has anyone thought that this is bioware's game and story, we are only the fans, they can do what they want with their story. We can only make requests and hope they are heard, but sometimes you get what you didn't want, and later you come to appreciate it for it's originality.

Well.. Considering that the fans are the ones buying their games it would behoove them to atleast think about how we feel. Especially if we've invested so much of our time(and money) in the previous parts of the series. 

[Dean_the_Young]

turian councilor Knockout wrote...

Only problem is that i'm no one just a imagination and the second ah well we can't always be right.

So both could be summed up by 'incompetence' on your part?

[turian councilor Knockout]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

turian councilor Knockout wrote...

Only problem is that i'm no one just a imagination and the second ah well we can't always be right.

So both could be summed up by 'incompetence' on your part?

if you want to see it that way sure

[Balancer]

DiegoProgMetal wrote...

****SPOILER***** ALERT ***** SPOILER *****


But let's think for a moment: IF we save earth, and destroy the reapers. The citadel is moved to Earth during the game, and the final choice will happen there. Which means Shepard is in Earth after the destruction, so are all the civilizations, ships, troops, from every species Shepard gathered to help retake Earth. The protheans reverse engineered the mass relays. So, with the help of Turians, Salarians, Asari, Krogan (maybe even the Prothean himself), which will want to get back to their homeworlds, wouldn't it be a logic outcome that everybody would try to build mass relays ASAP, and eventually finding the Normandy crew wherever they are?


As we say in Brazil, "Hope is the last one to die!".

Interesting, the fleets will be stuck at the local cluster when the relays die down, and because of mars humans discovered the mass relay by pluto, so maybe the key lies on mars. still sad for shepard and his crew tho.
their is always hope:P

[Dean_the_Young]

You don't exactly make a convincing argument to the contrary, tck.

Modifié par Dean_the_Young, 28 février 2012 - 05:11 .

[Heather Cline]

These endings are like the endings for FF13-2. I've seen them all on youtube. What's the point of playing the game, sticking with a LI or picking a new LI if you are going to get screwed over in the end and never see your LI again?

Seriously the 100% complete ending of FF13-2 with the optional secret ending was just as messed up as these endings here. No one truly wins and in the end everyone gets completely screwed over. Shepard ends up screwed and away from LI, galactic society collapses and so on and so forth.

I suggest people googling the FF13-2 endings and seeing just how bad the final ending is. It sucks, which is why I won't be playing FF13-2 because there is no actual happy ending. I like happy endings, endings where you get completely screwed over isn't the kind of ending I like to see. I'd rather read a book at least in those I'm guaranteed a happy ending.

[Teredan]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Teredan wrote...

How is the ME2 everyone survived not happy?

Because not only is the immediate threat of the Reaper's approach underlined, but Arrival ends with massacring a system.

How is the good ending in KotoR not happy?

Do you remember what KOTOR leads into?

How is the DA ending (which had varying degrees of "good") not happy?

The Dragon Age series in particular specializes in bitter-sweet endings, with either required death or ominous absences in the ending.

Yes they have always provided a limited number of endings but usually ones that cover all major camps.

Not really. Bioware usually provides two major endings, and then tag-along variables.

Ok but really nobody cares that a system is massacred in arrival since that sacrifice is as unpersonal as it can get. Sacrificing the happiness of your crew is a very different matter.
The consensus of people complaining that I get is that they are fine with sacrifices of the galaxy what they aren't fine with is that shepard and co are cheated out of some kind of happiness after all the hardships.

KoToR 2 is an obsidian game nuff said, I was arguing bioware games.

As for your Bioware provides two major endings comment don't get it.
Because these two major endings plus tag along variables usually covered most major camps.
So what's the argument here to be had?

Modifié par Teredan, 28 février 2012 - 05:13 .

[scotkrow]

Eclipse_9990 wrote...

scotkrow wrote...

Has anyone thought that this is bioware's game and story, we are only the fans, they can do what they want with their story. We can only make requests and hope they are heard, but sometimes you get what you didn't want, and later you come to appreciate it for it's originality.

Well.. Considering that the fans are the ones buying their games it would behoove them to atleast think about how we feel. Especially if we've invested so much of our time(and money) in the previous parts of the series. 

Noone read my post on page 16 did they, of course not, if you did you'd also read my opinion on this "leak" and why I think all this ****ing and moaning is pointless, I'll have to say I'm just here to see what other idiotics complaints people come up with.  It's entertaining.

[magnuskn]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

A game which ends before the enemy even arrives, and then the extension in which mass murder is required for salvation, is not an optimistic ending.

Yes, it actually was. You came back from a suicide mission with your whole crew and now you were going to kick the metal tuchas of the Reapers. If you didn't see the optimism there, it's more a problem of your outlook on the world than of the actual ending of the game.

Dean_the_Young wrote...

And those other pesky bitter pills to swallow.

If you didn't care, you didn't care. But that doesn't mean they weren't there.

Nothing was in the game which made this particular ending as bleak like what we are getting here in ME3. Yep, some problems to deal with in the future. Not "protagonist horribly screwed over, no matter what you do!".

Modifié par magnuskn, 28 février 2012 - 05:16 .

[turian councilor Knockout]

MJF JD wrote...

i dont even mind if shepard dies, i am willing to make that sacrifice, but i dont see why my crew has to get stranded on some random paradise planet that is apparently never found.

yeah well when you're in space and after a intergalactic war you can't always choose where to land it seems, so your dear squadmates will be dead and rotten before help arrive obviously. 

[BatmanPWNS]

Has any Bioware developer commented on this? If not, then it's probably legit.

[Nathan Redgrave]

DiegoProgMetal wrote...

wouldn't it be a logic outcome that everybody would try to build mass relays ASAP, and eventually finding the Normandy crew wherever they are?

Except even if they use recovered eezo to make FTL engines, they still have to manually travel to wherever the destination relay is intended to be before they can actually build the relay. It would take multiple lifetimes to re-establish the relay network.

[Arch1eviathan]

MJF JD wrote...

i dont even mind if shepard dies, i am willing to make that sacrifice, but i dont see why my crew has to get stranded on some random paradise planet that is apparently never found.

Wowers them. Shepard only dies in a good portion of the supposed endings. 

Modifié par Smecky Kitteh, 28 février 2012 - 05:19 .

[CerberusSoldier]

scotkrow wrote...

Eclipse_9990 wrote...

scotkrow wrote...

Has anyone thought that this is bioware's game and story, we are only the fans, they can do what they want with their story. We can only make requests and hope they are heard, but sometimes you get what you didn't want, and later you come to appreciate it for it's originality.

Well.. Considering that the fans are the ones buying their games it would behoove them to atleast think about how we feel. Especially if we've invested so much of our time(and money) in the previous parts of the series. 

Noone read my post on page 16 did they, of course not, if you did you'd also read my opinion on this "leak" and why I think all this ****ing and moaning is pointless, I'll have to say I'm just here to see what other idiotics complaints people come up with.  It's entertaining.

   


The endings are the ones you will chose from . but no they will never get a free pass on this