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#45026
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Well, I'm off to sleep!

I've got classes tomorrow, so I won't be around during the morning.
But expect to see me here during the rest of the day!

Hold the line for me while I'm away, ok?

Remember to stay civil.
To not bash.
To post links to images instead of the actual images.
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Thank you for remaining strong!
Cake out!

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leonardo87

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GHNR wrote...

OK, I am most terribly sorry for my derpiness, but could someone please explain WTF happened in "Synthesis" ending? What happens to the Citadel, where did the Reapers go? Is Earth all right? Did everyone on the Normandy besides Joker and EDI make it out OK? What happened to all your goddamn previous squadmates still on Earth? Did all the species go extinct when the Catalyst was fired, and if not, do the species have any contact with one another?

Sorry for asking these questions, but I just feel I really need some closure from this goddamn ending that doesn't tell you anything!


Welcome to the club! We don't have a clue either!

#45028
DJBare

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It crossed my mind that Synthesis is a deception, everyone is now a reaper.

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Iucounou

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GHNR wrote...

Mighty_BOB_cnc wrote...

GHNR wrote...

OK, I am most terribly sorry for my derpiness, but could someone please explain WTF happened in "Synthesis" ending? What happens to the Citadel, where did the Reapers go? Is Earth all right? Did everyone on the Normandy besides Joker and EDI make it out OK? What happened to all your goddamn previous squadmates still on Earth? Did all the species go extinct when the Catalyst was fired, and if not, do the species have any contact with one another?

Sorry for asking these questions, but I just feel I really need some closure from this goddamn ending that doesn't tell you anything!


Space magic.  And there was much speculation held by all.

That explains the time travel back to Priority: Cerberus Headquarters....


I could be cruel and suggest you pick a different colour next time, but the truth of it is this:

As Newt said to Ripley in Aliens "It won't make any difference..."

#45030
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For anyone just signing - IGN ME3 Ending Poll / Facebook.

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DoubleDHZ wrote...

I don't get it. So does everyone want a stupid hollywood-esque happy ending?

Personally I like the ending. And I wouldn't want to have it changed.

Open endings are way better, because there is room of speculation & interpretation instead of some forced plot...

We are not looking to get the ending changed, we are looking for additional endings and path's so that everyone gets what they want.

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DoubleDHZ wrote...

I don't get it. So does everyone want a stupid hollywood-esque happy ending?

Personally I like the ending. And I wouldn't want to have it changed.

Open endings are way better, because there is room of speculation & interpretation instead of some forced plot...


Please cite me who doesn't like the ending only because it isn't happy. Why don't you read some posts before attacking others.

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DJBare wrote...

It crossed my mind that Synthesis is a deception, everyone is now a reaper.

That's what I was thinking.
Destroy- Paragon
Control- Inbetweeny
Synthesis-Renegade.

#45034
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Currently, I have plenty of time, so I'd play ME again, but can't, for obvious reasons...
So after learning PHP, I decided to get myself into C++.
I found a book which could be good enough for a newbie like I am in C++. The author offers a a 35 page preview of it, so I decided to begin reading.

Let’s get ready to program! Programming, like other art forms, allows you to create—but in
programming, your power is multiplied by the speed and capabilities of the computer. You can create
engaging games like World of Warcraft, Bioshock, Gears of War and Mass Effect.

So while beginning to learn a new programming language, I learned, that ME already made an huge impact, and me getting sad again. Even though I managed to calm myself and keep a minimum level of happiness the last few days, now I failed (got an additional personal problem this sat, so it sums up, hooray)

Also watching GI Joe, and there is some kind of crazy doc, whose name is "Rex". The name itself reminded me at Wrex.

Damnit, no matter if I want to program, or watch TV, Mass Effect stalks me. It begins to get scary. I hope, I really hope we get some kind of informative response soon. A simple "we got something in the make, folks" would be quite cool.

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DJBare wrote...
We are not looking to get the ending changed, we are looking for additional endings and path's so that everyone gets what they want.


It's best to ignore these people, not quote them further.

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Mighty_BOB_cnc wrote...

GHNR wrote...

OK, I am most terribly sorry for my derpiness, but could someone please explain WTF happened in "Synthesis" ending? What happens to the Citadel, where did the Reapers go? Is Earth all right? Did everyone on the Normandy besides Joker and EDI make it out OK? What happened to all your goddamn previous squadmates still on Earth? Did all the species go extinct when the Catalyst was fired, and if not, do the species have any contact with one another?

Sorry for asking these questions, but I just feel I really need some closure from this goddamn ending that doesn't tell you anything!


Space magic.  And there was much speculation held by all.

Too bad in reality that was also by far the WORST ending in the game. Yea our individualism is what makes the galaxy awesome. Javik comments being one group is why they failed. Forcing everyone to become one thing goes against everything Shepard stands for and just curbstomps the ideals of the other two games and the first 98% of ME3

#45037
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Who is the reaper twitter dude hahahaha.. I'm seriously laughing harder than listening to Chris Rock here hahahaha.

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DoubleDHZ wrote...

I don't get it. So does everyone want a stupid hollywood-esque happy ending?

Personally I like the ending. And I wouldn't want to have it changed.

Open endings are way better, because there is room of speculation & interpretation instead of some forced plot...


Because there wasn't supposed to be that much openness. There's a quote around here saying as much. Plus we get railoroaded into three similiar endings, again going against what was promised.

Plus, while a happy ending isn't needed, the option for it would be VERY nice. Oh, and an ending that makes sense with not that many plotholes too.

Modifié par Ticonderoga117, 19 mars 2012 - 12:33 .


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DoubleDHZ wrote...

I don't get it. So does everyone want a stupid hollywood-esque happy ending?

Personally I like the ending. And I wouldn't want to have it changed.

Open endings are way better, because there is room of speculation & interpretation instead of some forced plot...


We want additional endings that give our Shepard's closure. And how was the ending of ME3 open? You got forced along one of three paths when we were promised that this would most definitely not be the ase - and what we did along the way would change the ending.

We don't want a happy-go-lucky ending, we want an actual end to Shepard's story that fits our Shepard's character.

#45040
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VyseN1 wrote...

Shepard should have said something similar to Sheridan's speech at the resolution of The Shadow War. www.youtube.com/watch


Its incredibly cheesy ( I love B5 by the way), but it would still have been better than what we ended up with in my opinion.Image IPB

#45041
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beetlebailey123 wrote...

Computim wrote...

Xyalon wrote...

Spanking Machine wrote...

When that shockwave caught up with the Normandy it was damaging enought to knock it out of the sky, so no matter what color of space magic it was it was obviously destructive.


Ahh, yes but at that time the Normandy, too, was travelling at conventional FTL (as depicted by doppler shift surrounding it). Now if we assume that anything travelling at FTL is, to all intents and purposes, more like a wave form than conventional matter, when another wave form travelling at a slightly higher frequency catches up to it there will be wave interaction and interference. This is most likey going to happen where the two meet (at the rear of the ship) which is where the engines are kept. As such, the engines would have been damaged, the Normandy would have dropped out of FTL, intertial dampers would have kicked in and, miraculously stranded in a system with an M-class planet with a nitrogen/oxygen atmosphere devoid of microscopic, anaphalactic shock inducing algae, woiuld have been able to secure an emergency re-entry and landing with the use of conventional thrusters.


I love your subtle use of space magic there haha.  I'm going to go way out of my norm and actually allow your technobabble (excellent use of it by the way, you sound like a fellow trekkie rofl).
Having no engines would make landing safely difficult no?  I would imagine being kicked out of FTL would probably not help the matter.

Guess it just reinforces our collective belieft that when you have to make more assumptions than a string theory hypothesis it probably means your ending doesn't really pass the smell test haha.

Shouldn't the Normandy have exploded on the planet? I mean not only does the Normandy still monumental amounts of momentum, but Re-entry into a planets atmosphere, assuming it's atmosphere matches Earth Burn up. Or in the very least leave a giant crater where the Normandy landed? I mean the Normandy was still intact, and it looked like it had a pretty soft landing compared to what physics says.


Well, that depends on how long it took for them to decelerate. The reason FTL is possible is that the ships mass is reduced to such an extent that the thrust provided by the engines can accelerate the ship to FTL velocities. However, the inertia and momentum will stay the same, so if the ship suddenly gains mass, conservation of momentum implies that it must slow down because otherwise you are creating energy from nothing, which is impossible.

So, we know that the ship is moving at conventional speeds, probably quite slowly in fact, so effective re-entry would be achieveable, and the heat caused by re-entry would not be an issue for ship ablative plating which is designed to withstand laser damage from fighters. There SHOULD be a skid mark ploughed into the jungle behind them but...well...maybe Joker is better than we give him credit for. Or they have retro thrusters.

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DoubleDHZ wrote...

I don't get it. So does everyone want a stupid hollywood-esque happy ending?

Personally I like the ending. And I wouldn't want to have it changed.

Open endings are way better, because there is room of speculation & interpretation instead of some forced plot...


Actually yes I do want t a 'hollywood-esque' happy ending. I especially like one's that do not contain deus ex machina star baby jesus right at the last 10 mins. Deus ex machina = hack rush job, just like it does in every other storytelling medium.

You realize scholars who analyze video games as art in the future will be chuckling at this ending right?

#45043
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DJBare wrote...

It crossed my mind that Synthesis is a deception, everyone is now a reaper.

 

Its nothing that clever... Synthesis is just   Galactic Reset Button ending and starting from step 1. 

Which is why you get Joker and EDI on the jungle  planet...  being  all  Adam and Eve like   <_<  

I really  hate these endings. 

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DoubleDHZ wrote...

I don't get it. So does everyone want a stupid hollywood-esque happy ending?

Personally I like the ending. And I wouldn't want to have it changed.

Open endings are way better, because there is room of speculation & interpretation instead of some forced plot...

It's the plot holes, there are a lot. Also some of it doesn't even fall into physics. Speculation, and interpretation isn't good for the finale of a trilogy. The ending of the end of the series needs to provide closure. Also reasons as to why the reapers were here. Logical reasons that make sense. There were a lot of problems with the ending. If you enjoyed it however more power to you. I disagree, and so does most of this post.

#45045
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Iucounou wrote...

GHNR wrote...

Mighty_BOB_cnc wrote...

GHNR wrote...

OK, I am most terribly sorry for my derpiness, but could someone please explain WTF happened in "Synthesis" ending? What happens to the Citadel, where did the Reapers go? Is Earth all right? Did everyone on the Normandy besides Joker and EDI make it out OK? What happened to all your goddamn previous squadmates still on Earth? Did all the species go extinct when the Catalyst was fired, and if not, do the species have any contact with one another?

Sorry for asking these questions, but I just feel I really need some closure from this goddamn ending that doesn't tell you anything!


Space magic.  And there was much speculation held by all.

That explains the time travel back to Priority: Cerberus Headquarters....


I could be cruel and suggest you pick a different colour next time, but the truth of it is this:

As Newt said to Ripley in Aliens "It won't make any difference..."



It would make a difference to me! But fine whatever, it's cool! I'm a very controlled, civilized being.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go castrate all the employee's at my local Gamestop who sold me this game.

I don't need luck, I have ammo-Grunt

#45046
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beetlebailey123 wrote...

DJBare wrote...

It crossed my mind that Synthesis is a deception, everyone is now a reaper.

That's what I was thinking.
Destroy- Paragon
Control- Inbetweeny
Synthesis-Renegade.


The impression I got:

Control- Paragon (You sacrifice yourself to save the galaxy, synth or bio)
Destroy- Renegade (You destroy the Reapers and all tech based on them; Geth die, quarians suits power down, people suffocate in space)
Synthasis- Utopian Bullcrap (Space Magic Harmony. No more disease, no more hurtful desire; simply understanding and peace. I'm pretty sure I say a unicorn. Then I shot it.)

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MeldarthX wrote...

RIGHT FOLKS - please do not embed photos; they can look at this and close the forum - Second; be excellent to each other - respectful - civil.......

most of all HOLD THE LINE

While I understand the idea that we might need to be particularly careful not to give BW a reason to lock the thread, I'd like to suggest that we get clarification from a moderator regarding this stance. My understanding of forum rules is that images are considered spam if they are posted as "pic bombs" with no accompanying text that links them to the thread topic or makes clear how they contribute to the topic. (i.e., rule 6, "Using images to support your discussion is fine as long as the images
used conform to the standard forum rules (no adult content, no slander,
no racism, etc).")

For example, the FemShep threads here consist of probably 80% image links, because people are discussng their custom FemSheps. The only time I've ever seen a post deleted there is when someone has posted the BBCode link without any comment at all to explain why they're posting it within the context of the topic. Here, if someone posts an image of a meme about the ME3 ending, for example, and comments on how well it sums up certain sentiments, that seems to me to be well within the forum rules. Has someone seen examples of threads being shut down when image + comment / explanation have been posted?

Again, there's no intent to be argumentative here, and if the consensus is "better safe than sorry," that's fine too. But blanket "no images" warnings that imply doing so would constitute a forum violation? Let's all be clear to each other. I think we're doing a great job of self-policing the thread, so let's agree on what we're really saying in cases like this.

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SSV Glasgow, making a pit stop for supplies. Will be reporting back in around 45 minutes. With a reminder to vote in IGN's poll. Very important.

#45049
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'Synthesis' is BS all the way down.

Doesn't even make sense from a 'pure fantasy' standpoint.

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Psychic_Squirrel wrote...

VyseN1 wrote...

Shepard should have said something similar to Sheridan's speech at the resolution of The Shadow War. www.youtube.com/watch


Its incredibly cheesy ( I love B5 by the way), but it would still have been better than what we ended up with in my opinion.Image IPB


I just couldn't help but think of how my favorite Sci-Fi series of all time resolved the Shadow War. A lot of it's applicable to ME3, Shepard should have said similar stuff to the god child, imo.