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[DJBare]

Bradagan wrote...

 This'll fix it!

Booyah! *snip*

Please see my sig.

[WvStolzing]

Alamandorious wrote...

I heard it was related to the Monty Python rabbit.

Oh yes, the pieces really have started falling together.

TIM the wizard
the rodent
the 'what is your favorite color' bridgekeeper

Coincidence?

[Ossborn76]

I know, this here was already posted in this thread:
http://pastebin.com/ivPggzTF

But I just finished reading this "much better" end... and something happened with me... Before, I thought, I would never be able to play any of the Mass Effect games ever again (at least, untill BW gives us a "Better ending"- DLC)... but i think, now I can play them again, and everytime, when I reach the beam, I stop playing the game and start reading this text...

But I am not lost to our cause,
I still hold the line! 

(but not longer for today, time for bed)

Modifié par Ossborn76, 19 mars 2012 - 12:58 .

[silencemayday]

austrian infiltrators out for tonight. the walking dead is starting and maybe i'll get to bed bevor 5am.
someone else hold my part of the line for tonight?

[Nharia1]

Alamandorious wrote...

Xellith wrote...

Stygian1 wrote...

You know, I bet if Sheppard had just looked long enough he could have found some wires to pull and turned off the star child/reapers. Anticlimactic, but better than space magic.


Hold the line

Just drop the space hamster down and let it save the day.  Little bites here and there is all it would take.

I heard it was related to the Monty Python rabbit.

I wouldn't be surprised. I mean it survived in the cargo hold without any actual food for six months so who's to say that it isn't some mini immortal relation of the Killer Rabbit.

[Doppelgaenger]

I finally finished this article: http://www.themetaga...oblem-with.html
MUST READ
Simply brilliant and it kinda makes me worry about the people that liked the ending tbh.

[Dj14365]

Any new news on the line?

[Alamandorious]

Ossborn76 wrote...

I know, this here was already posted in this thread:
http://pastebin.com/ivPggzTF

But I just finished reading this "much better" end... and something happened with me... Before, I thought, I would never be able to play any of the Mass Effect games ever again (at least, untill BW gives us a "Better ending"- DLC... but i think, now I can play them again, and everytime, when I reach the beam, I stop playing the game and start reading this text...

But I am not lost to our cause,
I still hold the line! 

(but not longer for today, time for bed)

Errr....one thing.  We don't want to give the impression we're with Anonymous...they're a bit more contraversial than we are  

[KaiserinKai]

Jason76 wrote...

Computim wrote...

Who is the reaper twitter dude hahahaha.. I'm seriously laughing harder than listening to Chris Rock here hahahaha.

Harby rocks. rofl. Laughing tears here. And when playing ME2 I now always have to think of this and can't take Harbinger serious anymore 

Due to this and a fan fic I read where Shepard has gotten so used to Harby ASUMING DIRECT CONTROL she says. "Hey Harbinger, that you up there?" I've haven't been able to take Harby seriously for a long time now...

[Xyalon]

revaew wrote...

Xyalon wrote...


Well, that depends on how long it took for them to decelerate. The reason FTL is possible is that the ships mass is reduced to such an extent that the thrust provided by the engines can accelerate the ship to FTL velocities. However, the inertia and momentum will stay the same, so if the ship suddenly gains mass, conservation of momentum implies that it must slow down because otherwise you are creating energy from nothing, which is impossible.

So, we know that the ship is moving at conventional speeds, probably quite slowly in fact, so effective re-entry would be achieveable, and the heat caused by re-entry would not be an issue for ship ablative plating which is designed to withstand laser damage from fighters. There SHOULD be a skid mark ploughed into the jungle behind them but...well...maybe Joker is better than we give him credit for. Or they have retro thrusters.

well if the normandy suddenly dropped from FTL, it would suddenly gain all of its mass back. this would result in a negative jerk, which we know from physics that jerks are very very bad. it would be like hitting a brick wall at mach 27. the normandy would suddenly and rapidly accelerate so negatively that people inside would be very very unfortunate...

Actually not true. Because FTL is achieved by lowering the mass of the ship to allow for faster velocities, intertial momentum is kept at a minimum. The crew are also inside the mass effect field and as such also have their mass lowered by the same extent. When everyone gains mass, along with the ship, conservation of momentum requires that they will slow down at exactly the same rate. There will be no jerk at all in fact because the momentum change is effectively zero.

If this were not the case then every ship which went through a mass relay would end up with paté instead of a crew before they reached the other side.

The person who spent a long time a while back explaining why dropping out of FTL neglected to take into account that the crew were also effectively massless while travelling at FTL as well as the ship. The mass effect field functions as an intertial damper (which is what they have in Star Trek to combat the same issues with Warp Technology).

[Prince Lex]

Welsh Inferno wrote...

Did IGN take down their poll on Facebook? Cant see it....

Lols.

Nope, the poll can still be found here! - www.facebook.com/questions/10150639359051633

I'll be back to remind everyone to vote again in an hour .

Modifié par Prince Lex, 19 mars 2012 - 01:03 .

[Goodwood]

Ossborn76 wrote...

I know, this here was already posted in this thread:
http://pastebin.com/ivPggzTF

But I just finished reading this "much better" end... and something happened with me... Before, I thought, I would never be able to play any of the Mass Effect games ever again (at least, untill BW gives us a "Better ending"- DLC)... but i think, now I can play them again, and everytime, when I reach the beam, I stop playing the game and start reading this text...

But I am not lost to our cause,
I still hold the line! 

(but not longer for today, time for bed)

The same thing happened to me. Now I can play—I just choose not to for the moment.

[TerrifiedKiz]

http://www.theparanoidgamer.com did a podcast 1-2 days ago, i believe it deserves to be reposted. They also get it.

theparanoidgamer.com/theparanoidgamer-podcast-episode-1-lions-tigers-and-bioware-oh-my/

Hold the line!

[CitizenSnips28]

Actually even if Shep lives (ill point out that he can now, though you have to play multilayer for it.) its still a wickedly bittersweet ending. Anderson dies. Several of your closest.friends die. How many hundreds of BILLIONS had to die to achieve victory. Nah to just have Shep die while bringing the galaxy into a new Dark Age isn't really bittersweet, its just bitter. The whole game is just so damn dark. You genuinely see the war having a toll on Shep. You lose friends and you experience failure (Thessia). I loved it, but I anticipated a hopeful payoff in the end. Its good storytelling. Cliche maybe but not much more than hero sacrifice. Ultimately I keep coming back to Dragon Age Origins. Hero sacrifice means so much more when you have to CHOOSE to do it. If you're forced into it it takes away the heroic aspect if it. A DAO style ending would have allowed most anyone.to.get.the ending.that they wanted, be it noble sacrifice.or triumphant hero. That's what I would have loved to see.

Modifié par CitizenSnips28, 19 mars 2012 - 01:04 .

[Alamandorious]

Prince Lex wrote...

Welsh Inferno wrote...

Did IGN take down their poll on Facebook? Cant see it....

Lols.

Nope, the poll https://www.facebook...359051633/ ]can still be found here![/url]

I'll be back to remind everyone to vote again in an hour .

Hmmm...odd, it came up as social.bioware.com in your actual post

[baronkohinar]

Welsh Inferno wrote...

Did IGN take down their poll on Facebook? Cant see it....

Lols.

Doesn't look like it. I can still get there:
www.facebook.com/questions/10150639359051633/

[Zhijn]

/edit Holy hell this quoteing went abewire. Ignore this. xD

Modifié par Zhijn, 19 mars 2012 - 01:03 .

[Ossborn76]

Alamandorious wrote...
Errr....one thing.  We don't want to give the impression we're with Anonymous...they're a bit more contraversial than we are  

I just thought, that Anonymous quote was perfect for Legion, so I made this motivational yesterday

Now... really... bed... good night!

zzzZZZzzz

[Nightfire78]

Auralius Carolus wrote...

beetlebailey123 wrote...

DJBare wrote...

It crossed my mind that Synthesis is a deception, everyone is now a reaper.

That's what I was thinking.
Destroy- Paragon
Control- Inbetweeny
Synthesis-Renegade.

The impression I got:

Control- Paragon (You sacrifice yourself to save the galaxy, synth or bio)
Destroy- Renegade (You destroy the Reapers and all tech based on them; Geth die, quarians suits power down, people suffocate in space)
Synthasis- Utopian Bullcrap (Space Magic Harmony. No more disease, no more hurtful desire; simply understanding and peace. I'm pretty sure I say a unicorn. Then I shot it.)

The impression I got:

Control: You blow up all the star systems with a mass relay or, assuming a "benign" explosion, strand the galactic forces around Earth without any viable means to resupply or get home before they all die (except the geth for whom food isn't really an issue and travel time isn't that big a deal either). Meanwhile your crew lands on a planet on which either quarians and turians will starve or humans and asari will starve. And you become the equivalent of a Reaper overlord.

Destroy: You blow up all the star systems with a mass relay or, assuming a
"benign" explosion, strand the galactic forces around Earth without any
viable means to resupply or get home before they all die (except the geth who you killed outright). Meanwhile your crew lands on a planet on which either quarians and turians will starve or humans and asari will starve. And you may or may not be dead in some unidentifiable place.

Synthesis: You wiggle your nose, wave your wand, incant incantations and somehow turn everyone into one big pile of DNA that gets stirred, shaken and spit back out as "we're all exactly the same" semi-synthetic creature-people... and strand them all around Earth where they may or may not starve or live happily ever after. Meanwhile your crew lands on a planet on which either quarians and turians will starve or humans and asari will starve.

Now while I readily admit to enjoying happy endings, I have no real problem dealing with an ending where the hero dies. I have a problem dealing with an ending where the hero dies and everything you strived for is chucked into the trash. I have an issue with an ending where, deep in my heart, I feel that it would have been better if I hadn't bothered trying because what I end up doing is not any better and possibly worse than what the big, bad enemy would have done had I just sat my arse down on a beach somewhere and waited for the end. And I have an issue with being presented with nearly identical endings that pretend to be different, ignore the lore presented within the trilogy (even lore presented in codex within the game itself), doom more people than they save and present more questions than they answer even though they are meant to provide closure for the entire series/universe.... And I don't even have words for the magic DNA blender ending.

*sigh* Now back to your regularly scheduled posting 

[Computim]

[quote]Xyalon wrote...

[quote]revaew wrote...

Actually not true. Because FTL is achieved by lowering the mass of the ship to allow for faster velocities, intertial momentum is kept at a minimum. The crew are also inside the mass effect field and as such also have their mass lowered by the same extent. When everyone gains mass, along with the ship, conservation of momentum requires that they will slow down at exactly the same rate. There will be no jerk at all in fact because the momentum change is effectively zero.

If this were not the case then every ship which went through a mass relay would end up with paté instead of a crew before they reached the other side.

The person who spent a long time a while back explaining why dropping out of FTL neglected to take into account that the crew were also effectively massless while travelling at FTL as well as the ship. The mass effect field functions as an intertial damper (which is what they have in Star Trek to combat the same issues with Warp Technology).[/quote]

However ships crashing into planets generally don't have a good outcome.  Especially without wings/main engines.

[Scottish_highlander]

Checking in, any news since yesterday?

[Xellith]

That video by that Colin Moriarty guy (sp?) at http://m.uk.ign.com/...3-opinion-video was removed or something.

[Bionic Weapon]

Xellith wrote...

Bionic Weapon wrote...

Xellith wrote...

WvStolzing wrote...

'Synthesis' is BS all the way down.

Doesn't even make sense from a 'pure fantasy' standpoint.

They had to add that option to make the rapists happy.  Seriously I see the synthesis option as rape - rape with space magic.

Whoa dude that is kind of dark. What made you think that?

Think about it. You are using your genetic information and disseminating it forcibly to every living and synthetic organism in the galaxy without permission nor have you even asked for it.   You are just literally using space magic to force your genetic material onto others.  It might not be rape in a purely sexual context - but its still pretty fu**** up.

Its about as violating as you can get without actually performing a sexual act.

Oh I agree with you completely. Changing who we are shouldn't be up to one man/ woman. It's our unique makeup that makes each of us who we are. If you forcibly take that away by merging two different DNA ( machine DNA?) then what we were in a way becomes obsolete. Sure half of you remains but the other half whether good or bad isn't you. It goes against everything that made you unique, not to mention everyone in the galaxy now is half the same instead of completely/vastly different. It's not a humans  or any species right to play god in this way.

Which is why I do t care for this ending either. Since as some others have said you are doing the Reapers work for them.  Only in a less horrible sense. Or maybe not. 

Modifié par Bionic Weapon, 19 mars 2012 - 01:12 .

[Tony208]

After seeing the "final hours" and the use of web images for not just Tali but for the Stargazer scene as well, I've come to the conclusion that they put less thought/time in to the ending than we have over these past 2 weeks.

[VonVerrikan]

CitizenSnips28 wrote...

Actually even if Shep lives (ill point out that he can now, though you have to play multilayer for it.) its still a wickedly bittersweet ending. Anderson dies. Several of your closest.friends die. How many hundreds of BILLIONS had to die to achieve victory. Nah to just have Shep die while bringing the galaxy into a new Dark Age isn't really bittersweet, its just bitter. The whole game is just so damn dark. You genuinely see the war having a toll on Shep. You lose friends and you experience failure (Thessia). I loved it, but I anticipated a hopeful payoff in the end. Its good storytelling. Cliche maybe but not much more than hero sacrifice. Ultimately I keep coming back to Dragon Age Origins. Hero sacrifice means so much more when you have to CHOOSE to do it. If you're forced into it it takes away the heroic aspect if it. A DAO style ending would have allowed most anyone.to.get.the ending.that they wanted, be it noble sacrifice.or triumphant hero. That's what I would have loved to see.

Correction. -everyone- dies