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galaxidj

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naes1984 wrote...

Can you imagine what a disaster this game would have been if they hadn't delayed it and released it in December?


Wel i think we'd only got the "red" ending then.

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VivaLaWhatsername

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Still watching Buffy, and it was the musical episode "Once More With Feeling" and the demon guy changes his suit colour from red to blue and I turned round and went "Now all he has to do is change it to green and that will be the perfect ending to ME3 according to Bioware" it seems accurate lol


I see that I'm not the only one watching Buffy trying to overcome this hollowness that ME3 left :D

I watched Chosen (to remind me what it feels to have closure) and Once More with Feeling (it cheers me up even with all the dark themes).


Wow I am not the only one cheered up by Buffy?, that makes me happy :)

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DJBare wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...
I'm on my 4th playthrough.... <_< Sad I know, but its like the only game I can play... even though it brings me to tears everytime I do.... Everytime I try and play another game... I get even more depressed than when I'm actually playing ME3... o.O

I am unable to play since I took Origin offline and closed it, I'm not adding to EA statistics for this game.


Likewise, I don't know if it helps at all, but frankly I don't have that much love to Origin to begin with, so nothing lost here.

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MaRsHy93

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Sorry this has been bugging me for a while but who/what is marauder shields?

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DJBare

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We are still looking for "volunteers" from multiplayer to boycott it and join us here, I know it's a lot to ask, but we need to cover every theater of war, if you are a MP player and want a better ending to the SP, then join us now.

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Atrocity wrote...

DJBare wrote...

 Bioware admits Mass Effect 3's ending might have needed 'more closure'

We've had some incredibly positive reactions to Mass Effect 3, from the New York Times declaring it “a gripping, coherent triumph”, to Penny Arcade calling it “an amazing accomplishment”, to emails and tweets from players who have given us the most profound words of appreciation we've ever received.  


But we also recognize that some of our most passionate fans needed more closure, more answers, and more time to say goodbye to their stories—and these comments are equally valid. Player feedback such as this has always been an essential ingredient in the development of the series.


Not sure how to take this, the hopefull little gamer inside me thinks it's good they at least begin to aknowledge us, BUT the university student studying linguistics in me says that preterite form can be used to signal improbability of an event.

It also pretty skillfully uses loaded terms -- words and phrases whose semantic content includes quite negative connotations:

"Passionate," for example, is often a Human Resources euphemism for "difficult" or "argumentative" that's used as a code word in official employee reviews. As a manager, I've been instructed to use it on many occasions.

Also, note that the outcry about the ending is presented as a list of emotional responses that "fans needed" as opposed to being objective feedback from dissatisfied consumers. This strongly communicates immaturity, neediness and entitlement. If you think that's a stretch, look back a couple of sentences and note that those who gave positive, glowing feedback are referred to not as "fans" but as "players" who provided "profound words of appreciation."

Finally, they close by saying that comments from these needy, passionate fans "are equally valid," which creates a "we're so magnanimous that we even care for the emotionally needy" subtext intended to increase the reader's sympathy towards the company and underline the already negative portrait of unhappy customers.

Let's be civil but never forget the nature of the conflict or the weapons in BioWare's arsenal.

Modifié par SkaldFish, 19 mars 2012 - 10:58 .


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galaxidj wrote...

naes1984 wrote...

Can you imagine what a disaster this game would have been if they hadn't delayed it and released it in December?


Wel i think we'd only got the "red" ending then.


You know maybe they should've released it in December.  Christmas might have made a lot of fans more forgiving...holiday spirit you know. And plus Christmas lights...red...blue..green...oooh pretty colors....:wizard:

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VivaLaWhatsername

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MaRsHy93 wrote...

Sorry this has been bugging me for a while but who/what is marauder shields?


He was the Marauder you shoot just before going into the big light tower, he was protecting us from the ending and he is our hero :P

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Nharia1 wrote...

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Just got done with my NG+ and I have to say....It still makes me angry! What a surprise. At least this time I got the 5 second breath scene but I still do not like it. Heres to hoping the ending changes.


I'm on my 4th playthrough.... <_< Sad I know, but its like the only game I can play... even though it brings me to tears everytime I do.... Everytime I try and play another game... I get even more depressed than when I'm actually playing ME3... o.O


Wow fourth? I'm sorry you have to go through that four times, no human should be forced to endure it that many times. I get teary eyes everytime Garrus speaks to me at the end but I am still holding out hope that it will become better eventually.


I just want to be able to get with Liara... >.<
BUT NO BIOWARE HAD TO GO AND RUIN MY CHANCE OF EVER EVEN SEEING YOU
AGIN! INSTEAD YOU'RE STRANDED ON SOME ALIEN PLANET, WITH JOKER AND
EITHER JAVICK OR GARRUS!! Damn you you BW , why! WHY CAN'T I GET MY
SAPPY ENDING WHERE I SETTLE DOWN WITH LIARA AND HAVE AN EXSTENSIVE
FAMILY, MOST OF THE CHILDREN BEING ADOPTED WAR TIME ORPHANS OF EVERY
SPEICES! Image IPB Having
a family Vacation to see Aunt Tali, and Uncle Garrus, and of course
Uncle Wrex, Aunt Baraka, and little cousin Mordin! Damn't I want my gawd
damn sappy ending! I DON'T CARE IF I GET CALLED A HOPELESS ROMANTIC! I
AM ONE IN REAL LIFE! AND THATS HOW I FEEL MY SHEPARD WOULD BE AS WELL!
Despite all of the war that she's been through she would still be just a
hopeless romantic with a giant family, all of those little kids, yeah
guess what, they don't exsist because of what you've done BW, I hope
you're happy with yoursleves, you've ruined the best Space family ever,
just by giving me a lousy ending!


Yeah believe me I know how you feel. I've had to scream to the world to get my anger out and boy did they think I was weird! Just kidding, but I have been ranting to my family and such and this fourm has been loads of help with getting over my grief of losing Garrus and not retiring to a tropical place with him and a couple of orphans and the rest of my crew. Hopefully with this war were in we can achieve our goals and Bioware will listen to their loveing customers. I know I wont be leaving the line anytime soon till they do!

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galaxidj wrote...

naes1984 wrote...

Can you imagine what a disaster this game would have been if they hadn't delayed it and released it in December?


Wel i think we'd only got the "red" ending then.


Doubtful. The game would end after being blasted by Harbinger.

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MaRsHy93 wrote...

Sorry this has been bugging me for a while but who/what is marauder shields?

The last turien husk you see before entering the beam, he tried to prevent you from seeing the end, he is a hero to us all!

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MP player, here. Gave up to join you guys in the bunker. \\

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xHezz90 wrote...

milena87 wrote...

xHezz90 wrote...

Still watching Buffy, and it was the musical episode "Once More With Feeling" and the demon guy changes his suit colour from red to blue and I turned round and went "Now all he has to do is change it to green and that will be the perfect ending to ME3 according to Bioware" it seems accurate lol


I see that I'm not the only one watching Buffy trying to overcome this hollowness that ME3 left :D

I watched Chosen (to remind me what it feels to have closure) and Once More with Feeling (it cheers me up even with all the dark themes).


Wow I am not the only one cheered up by Buffy?, that makes me happy :)


Yep, it helped me in much darker times :)

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MstrJedi Kyle

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MCP20012 wrote...

MP player, here. Gave up to join you guys in the bunker.


Pull up a chair and get comfortable. We may be here a while.

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MCP20012 wrote...

MP player, here. Gave up to join you guys in the bunker.

Welcome!, pass the message to your MP friends, it's a big sacrifice and will be noted, we thank you for joining us!

Modifié par DJBare, 19 mars 2012 - 10:53 .


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VivaLaWhatsername

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milena87 wrote...

Yep, it helped me in much darker times :)


Yeah same here actually, I mean one thing I love about it is that no matter how hard or dark it gets Buffy always wins in the end.

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DarthKilby wrote...

galaxidj wrote...

naes1984 wrote...

Can you imagine what a disaster this game would have been if they hadn't delayed it and released it in December?


Wel i think we'd only got the "red" ending then.


Doubtful. The game would end after being blasted by Harbinger.


That would have actually been a better ending to be fair.

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xHezz90 wrote...

He was the Marauder you shoot just before going into the big light tower, he was protecting us from the ending and he is our hero :P


OOOH I need a NZ fleet sig. They must be rare around here!

Do you hold the line @ gpforums as well?

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Nharia1 wrote...

Oh my gosh this is so cute~!!!!!! *swoons*

http://browse.devian... Liara#/d4sssyj

 

The power of the blue babies is compelling...

because dear lord that is too adorable not to like, so much  D'awwwww. 


Good Morning everyone... sorry I had little shake in the resolve, just need some sleep  and I'm back  ready for action. 

Modifié par nitefyre410, 19 mars 2012 - 10:57 .


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Morning troops!

I'm back to hold the line for today.

I've just caught up on the last few pages.

As far as the FTC thing goes, don't worry about that. Like most, I think it's too early for such actions, but it is done now. Let's just wait and see what comes of it and continue on as we are.

I see there has been no news from Bioware - not that I expected any, of course. I continue to live in hope that "No news is good news" but I think that BW/EA is just waiting for us all to get bored and go away.

I think they seriously underestimate our resolve on this matter.

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MaRsHy93

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I see, thanks Bare and Hezz

Another quick question, if and indeed when (touch wood) we get the ending we so badly crave, will this be the first time in gaming history when the fans have influenced such a big change in a game after release?

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VivaLaWhatsername

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JK FALCO wrote...

xHezz90 wrote...

He was the Marauder you shoot just before going into the big light tower, he was protecting us from the ending and he is our hero :P


OOOH I need a NZ fleet sig. They must be rare around here!

Do you hold the line @ gpforums as well?


Pinch mine, and no I only come on here. Forums are rarely my thing.

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DJBare

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MaRsHy93 wrote...

I see, thanks Bare and Hezz

Another quick question, if and indeed when (touch wood) we get the ending we so badly crave, will this be the first time in gaming history when the fans have influenced such a big change in a game after release?

Not precisely, Bethesda changed the ending to Fallout 3 with a DLC.

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xHezz90 wrote...

JK FALCO wrote...

xHezz90 wrote...

He was the Marauder you shoot just before going into the big light tower, he was protecting us from the ending and he is our hero :P


OOOH I need a NZ fleet sig. They must be rare around here!

Do you hold the line @ gpforums as well?


Pinch mine, and no I only come on here. Forums are rarely my thing.


I'll add N.Z. Banner at next update of my resource site (Image zone). :wizard:

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EA should learn something from CDProjekt Red. They have Witcher 2 Enhanced Edition xbox premiere next month. With longer third act, with more stories, characters and other stuff. And for everyone, who purchased the game on PC, this DLC is for free, so they can have exactly the same game like those who will purchase it soon.

Hello there, I'm joining to hold the line. Any petitions that should I send?