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#47051
spacefiddle

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Bionic Weapon wrote...

Atrocity wrote...

Bionic Weapon wrote...

laughing sherpa girl wrote...
it appears G4 is deleting the responses of anyone who is not supporting the smear campaign. We REALLY need to get over there and do something En-mass.


Sorry having a dumb moment right now. This is a campaign against us?

Apparently they are trying to make people associate us with that one guy who went to FTC thus painting us in... less than flattering light. Apparently they also have removed any comments trying to state otherwise and/or comments about the crappiness of the endings.





SMH. It's always something it seems. Well to only way to counter that is to keep up what we are doing here. We still respect Bioware but know they are better than this and want nothing more than for them to prove it.  
Come on all  they have to do is look at DA:O  Heck they can look at the first two Mass Effect games for clues and insight.
I do hope this FTC burns out though. I understand that person is frustrated, we all are but we are proving our point in the most respectful, decent , calm, way as fans of the game possible.
That's bad line holding. We should have a time out line.

I hope you all take something away from this.

If nothing else, it shows paid-for industry mouthpieces like G4 and IGN for what they are.  If you have a strong position, you really don't need to censor opposing viewpoints... and if you're telling the truth, you don't need to delete proof to the contrary.

As gamers, these sites depend on us giving them hits, giving them viewers, giving them credibility.  They've come right out and made it plain: they have none, and they don't care.  Don't forget this, whatever happens with ME3.  And take any information coming from them in the future, about anything, with a bucket of salt.

#47052
Darkspazztic

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VonVerrikan wrote...

A boycott of the multiplayer really saddens me, though. I always wanted to play as a Turian, and I love the multiplayer for finally giving me that chance. It's the only positive feeling I can get from this whole game, you know? And now that this movement has turned into boycotting multiplayer..

Just makes me even more sad, since I feel I should do the same now as well..


Yeah, but once we win this thing it'll make the MP all the sweeter.

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Another scetch by Monty Python that saved me from writing long and boring post about growing frustration
youtube.com/watch?v=npjOSLCR2hE

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TamiBx

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 Not sure if anyone has posted this here, but...

http://gamerant.com/...tc-benk-138911/

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ArmyKnifeX wrote...

Remember what Stanley Woo said, guys. Posts consisting of only "Hold the line" are going to get threads locked down. Please don't say anything unless you have something to say. Vote in the polls if you want to show your support!


This needs to be put in the OP.

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The Fazzle

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Xena_Shepard wrote...

vitaro86 wrote...

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 Still looking for more MP gamers to join us and boycott MP.


Count me in! I'm holding the line!


Anybody who will boycott the MPhas clearly not played the MP because the MP is amazing. Not to say that a game should use MP to support itself, but it's still fun as hell.


I agree that MP is pretty fun, but I'm bitter enough to quit playing it for a while. So sign me up for no MP. I know lots of people won't want to give it up, but understand that's another good way to show BW that we mean business. 

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VonVerrikan wrote...

A boycott of the multiplayer really saddens me, though. I always wanted to play as a Turian, and I love the multiplayer for finally giving me that chance. It's the only positive feeling I can get from this whole game, you know? And now that this movement has turned into boycotting multiplayer..

Just makes me even more sad, since I feel I should do the same now as well..


Alternatively, if you really can't stay away from the MP, you could add something to your gamertag that reflects the movement.
Something like _ReME3_.

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VyseN1

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I expected a little more of John Sheridan from Caommander Shepard. www.youtube.com/watch

Shepard should have pushed back against the starchild like Sheridan did against the Vorlons and Shadows. Just imo.

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The last screen I saw from Mass Effect 3 was the pop-up text box that told me 'something something ... Ovaltine.'

Haven't touched it since. So you can include me in your boycott.

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Just checking in.  Still can't get over how amazing it is the game could give me most of what I hoped for re: romancing with Ashley, and many other things, and then turn around and just totally drop the ball at the 1 yard line.  It's like they gave up trying to write good endings, so they said let's make it a dark ending to increase the chances of it being dramatic.  It's like they totall missed two important concepts in storytelling:
1) Not all dark endings equate to dramatic and memorable.  You can still have a sh*tty dark ending.
2) Not all endings need to be dark to be memorable.  Only people who can't think up good endings believe so.
Angry Joe has some pretty entertaining materials up.
http://angryjoeshow....angry-review-2/
http://angryjoeshow....fect-3s-ending/

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Xena_Shepard wrote...

VonVerrikan wrote...

A boycott of the multiplayer really saddens me, though. I always wanted to play as a Turian, and I love the multiplayer for finally giving me that chance. It's the only positive feeling I can get from this whole game, you know? And now that this movement has turned into boycotting multiplayer..

Just makes me even more sad, since I feel I should do the same now as well..


You shouldn't feel bad. Boycotts only matter if they were prior customers, and as I already stated, anybody who would boycott the MP clearly hasn't played it yet. It's like my "boycott" of Apple. Apple doesn't care, because I was never an Apple customer (and never will be).


I enjoy MP. I'm good at MP. And still I'm boycotting MP. And no, it's not a thing for whole Retake-movement, only those who wish to do so, it's in no way compulsory, just an idea what people can do other than Hold the Line here and take the polls, or write emails and letters, or contact press etc  ;)

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Xena_Shepard wrote...

Anybody who will boycott the MPhas clearly not played the MP because the MP is amazing. Not to say that a game should use MP to support itself, but it's still fun as hell.

It has nothing to do with how good MP is, I've no doubt MP is fantastic for a lot of players given the positive feedback I've seen, all we are asking is for them to boycott it temporarily to show their support, they don't have to join us, but it's in their's and our best interest if they also want a better ending to SP.

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CheekyWeazel

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This helped a lot to lift my mood. I just love this Video *g*



And im still not giving up !

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Conspicuous Cake

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Hey!

Let's try to edit our quotes so we don't end up with big quote pyramids.
We can avoid having our thread getting closed if we do this.


And hold the line!

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vitaro86 wrote...

DJBare wrote...

 Still looking for more MP gamers to join us and boycott MP.


Count me in! I'm holding the line!


This is useful, but I think it's a tough sell for a lot of people. A more productive argument might be to suggest players simply boycott microtransactions using bioware points. So don't allow them to use the MP game as a revenue stream until they fix the SP game.

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Hydralysk

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Btw for any new entries or people that can't see access the link for one reason for another we are trying to get #RetakeME3 trending on twitter. Every voice counts, so if you can sign up to post this great (you can also check out HarbyTheReaper :P). Keep it civil, and if you don't want to spend time making your own here's a template.

@masseffect ME3 was outstanding, but the ending is unacceptable. When will new content be made available to address this? #RetakeME3

http://pay.reddit.com/r/masseffect/comments/r20p0/lets_get_retakeme3_trending_on_twitter_monday/

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I'll be boycotting the whole game.

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One of the reasons why ME3's ending did not work for me is that it broke the ebb and flow I felt the ME games had.

In ME1, the game starts at a low-point: Jenkins dies, Nihlus dies, Shepard gets knocked out by the beacon, the council does not believe anything you say.

But then you get the evidence, become the first human Spectre and start travelling the galaxy finding new clues. Everything is looking up.

Until you get to Virmire. One of your squadmates dies and the Normandy gets grounded. A new low-point has been reached.

But then you go after Saren, track him down, and win the battle with him and sovereign. And just as you reach this high-point, a piece of Sovereign crashes into the council chamber. When your squadmates are rescued and asked about Shepard, they only sadly shake their heads, creating some more tension before Shepard finally shows up again and that tension is lifted.

In ME2, Shepard pretty much dies in the beginning. Doesn't get any lower then that.

You start recruiting people, one of them Garrus, and things are starting to look good again. But then you get to Horizon, where you meet the Virmire survivor, but that meeting is anything but happy. Not really a setback, but still a bad moment for Shepard.

You keep recruiting, you keep loyalizin', everything is peachy. And just when you think you are ready, you receive another low-blow: the collectors abduct your entire crew.

You fight your way through the suicide mission, watch the credits roll not knowing how many people survived holding the line. The tension is very high, but then you take control of Shepard again, check your terminal and see that everyone survived. Tension released, satisfaction acquired.

Next up, ME3. Starts at another low point with Shepard having to flee Earth. You reunite with Liara and Garrus, help out the turians and krogans, and just as you think that all is going well, the Citadel is attacked. Bam, another low-point.

But you keep going, solve the quarian/geth situation and feel awesome. You learn about the artifact on Thessia, so you go there all "hell yeah, let's do this", but it ends in disaster, once again casting Shepard (and Liara) down.

But you get back on your feet, kick Cerberus' ass and start the final assault on the reapers on earth. You fight and fight and everything is looking good...until you're blasted by the beam, leaving Shepard bloody, bruised and hardly able to move. A final low-point has been reached.

Unfortunately, unlike in the first two games, ME3 does not manage to leave that low-point again; it's stuck there and does not provide the release of tension that everyone expected. Of course, this might very well be what Bioware intended for the game, but when you are promised "a conclusion to Shepard's story", translucent space kids and explosions in three different colors are not what you expect.

And hell, the first two games ended on positive notes. Not being able to get that positive note at all is really frustrating. I'm not saying that all ME3 has is a happy rainbows and stuff ending, but please, give us the ability to choose that if we want to. ME has always been about choice, so why not let people choose whether they want a bad end, a heroic sacrifice by Shepard, or retirement, old age and a lot of blue kids?

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Removed, due to wildly suggestive nature of the website I posted...

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Modifié par infinitekilan, 19 mars 2012 - 06:44 .


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captainbob8383 wrote...

I think some have already seen this video, but for the others it is definitively worth it. It's a bit long (30min), but it's really interesting, the guy explains what the ME3 story was originally planned to be (dark energy and human reaper), and how he would fix the ending.
His vid really deserves more views, so if you have 30 min to spend, go check it.



I liked this guys ideas.  I think i would have been epic to have the last boss fight be the harbinger at the Citidel beam with squad controls controling Fighter Wings, Other Complete Squads, etc (as opposed to your squad members) where you control their attacks of the right and left flanks until defeated.

I'm also curious to learn more about this Dark Energy ending that Drew K. supposidly wrote.  It would explain the Sun Dark Energy problem at Tali's home world we learned about in ME2 and why the Reapers where building a Human reaper at the collectors base.  Both of these where never answered.

This is another example of how fans are comming up with way better endings than what bioware produced.  Don't figure !.

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Darth Garrus

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Back on the line. Hi, everyone!!

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I think that if they ever closed this thread, the outrage would just exponentially increase...

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Darkspazztic wrote...

Morning all, anything since last night?


'fraid not. No statement yet.

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http://www.wired.com...ffect-3-ending/

sent them emails in the morning as well and petitioned them... They posted this...
Well .... At least every day there are articles on the web....
This is not going to go away ....

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DJBare wrote...

Xena_Shepard wrote...

Anybody who will boycott the MPhas clearly not played the MP because the MP is amazing. Not to say that a game should use MP to support itself, but it's still fun as hell.

It has nothing to do with how good MP is, I've no doubt MP is fantastic for a lot of players given the positive feedback I've seen, all we are asking is for them to boycott it temporarily to show their support, they don't have to join us, but it's in their's and our best interest if they also want a better ending to SP.


you are hereby decleared the official " voice of wisdom " my friend :)

This would also could have been awsome for the final rush >.> ( especially if you noticed their isn't a beam or a starchild that could pop out of nowhere ^^ ) Still a good picture tho

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