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#47451
Alamandorious

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Hydralysk wrote...

Alamandorious wrote...

Alright ladies and gents, I've posted a video to youtube...although  I haven't made it public yet...about various things to do with the Movement and the situation in general.

I'd like some opnions before I make it available for public.  Go to the link and leave me your opinions :)



Personally, I think it needs to be a bit more concise, it sounded to me like you knew the points you wanted to make by heart, but not the best words to describe them. Since this is a video with no facetime, I'd write it out first and then read from it when everything sounds perfect and to the point.

I still loved it though and it's great to see people doing something.


I had about 3 scripts written, but when I read them it sounds canned...was going for more genuine :)

But thanks, I agree I stumbled a bit.

#47452
Ghost Rider LSOV

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Elanor1 wrote...

The Fazzle wrote...

infinitekilan 

No. A Tali-lovers thread hit 5005 pages in a month before it was locked.


I feel bad for so many Talimancers, her face reveal was a pretty big slap to face withe sheer epic laziness that it was. It makes me a little angry just thinking about it =/


I'm not Talimancer and I'm still disappointed. Just think how they must feel...


I really like Tali and well, although the stock photo is quite lazy (would've liked a 3d model), I don't mind it anymore.
Not to mention lots of people make new fanarts with the photo's details as a guideline. Image IPB

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Matt_gekko88

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Erm...guys? What happened to Retake ME on childsplay chippin?
Is it down?

http://retakemasseff...ect-childs-play

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Neezoy wrote...

Elanor1 wrote...

I'm not Talimancer and I'm still disappointed. Just think how they must feel...


It would have been better if they hadn't shown it at all IMO. That was just... cheap.


I agree with both of these statements. I've seen some amazing fan art of Tali and it's just sad to think BioWare cares less about the game than many fans.
It's sadly amusing how almost all of the little complaints (Tali's face, auto-dialogue, lack of exploration, etc) have been completely drowned out by the endings.

Don't get me wrong, I love the rest of ME3. It's just interesting that the endings eclipse almost any other flaw ME3 may or may not have.

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Matt_gekko88

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Geinen wrote...

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

I am...

:crying:


I just...can't get over this picture when I think of Tali revealing her face lol:

http://i230.photobuc...ardWrexTali.png


....
you're so mean :crying:

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The Fazzle

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It would have been better if they hadn't shown it at all IMO. That was just... cheap.

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Agreed, I would have been fine whether they showed her face or not, but if they're going to show it, at least put some effort into it. I mean seriously, it's a main character with a HUGE fan base and they chose to use a half assed photo shop, yet they put effort into characters like Allers. Sorry for the derail, but next to the endings this really makes me rage. 

#47457
DJBare

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MeldarthX wrote...I've been saying for while after another suggested this - if you want to play MP go for it; but change your character names to our Slogans - ;)
We've payed for MP; might as well use it as a tool too......
Something like Hold the Line - Retake ME3's Ending......
stuff like that

Agreed, but what we are attempting is to get the EA server statistics down so that it becomes noticeable, as I said earlier, we are only requesting this, I can certainly understand those who want to continue playing, just as there are people still playing the SP despite the fact they do not like the ending, basically we are giving something the game ending did not, "choice"

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silencemayday wrote...

B33ker wrote...

I keep watching this video about the endings over and over.

#1 - He's got a good "radio" voice.

#2 - He's got the right idea all the way pretty much about how we feel and what BW should have done.



It's long at about 30 minutes, but I think it's worth it, so reposting for those who may have missed.


yeees, i was watching this last night. nearly made me cry.. his ideas are brilliant. 
bioware should hire him. 


Kinda surreal that he needed only 1 day to come up with a much more interesting Plot twist than what Bioware delivered as a Twist

#47459
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Elanor1 wrote...

The Fazzle wrote...

infinitekilan
No. A Tali-lovers thread hit 5005 pages in a month before it was locked.

I feel bad for so many Talimancers, her face reveal was a pretty big slap to face withe sheer epic laziness that it was. It makes me a little angry just thinking about it =/

I'm not Talimancer and I'm still disappointed. Just think how they must feel...


I didn't mind it all THAT much myself. Granted that was before I knew the STUNNING amount of work into creating it, but still, don't mind all that much. There are worse things that happened in the game to focus on: 1)Some bad quest journal stuff 2) No option to punch TIM in the face repeatedly or at all and.... wait, I had a third one... hold on.... ummmm.... oh, right.... THE ENDING! *fume*

I'm good now.
Hold the line!

#47460
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Matt_gekko88 wrote...

Erm...guys? What happened to Retake ME on childsplay chippin?
Is it down?

http://retakemasseff...ect-childs-play


It seems to be, but I don't know why.
I hope it's nothing bad.

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Matt_gekko88 wrote...

....
you're so mean :crying:



!! I'm sorry!! lol *hugs*

#47462
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Anything new as we march into the 1900s?

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The Big Palooka wrote...

Wasserfrau wrote...

Could someone please make an ending video with the Trololo song in the background?


You mean, like this?

www.youtube.com/watch


Yes, I meant it just like this, thank you. Trololo~ :D

#47464
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The community response has been amazing. I have read some very eloquent posts on both sides of the issue. Mine is likely to be very disjointed since I'm still trying to grok everything. I finished up ME3 last night and thought that I would add my voice to the argument. I was firmly in the 'how bad can it be?' camp right up until the last ten minutes. I wasn't angry and I wasn't sad. I was a little disappointed, but the biggest emotion that I felt was apathy. I had expected an epic and thrilling conclusion to the saga, but instead I got...that. I can understand Mr. Hudson's desire to craft an ending that's memorable, but for me it was anything but.

I'm a fan of dark endings (Red Dead Redemption has one of my favorite endings ever) and badly framed design choices aside - why would you introduce a canon shattering plot device in the last ten minutes of the game - ME3s ending wasn't what I would have liked. Shepard's death felt like generic sacrifice plot #21335. It felt empty. This is largely due to the fact that I didn't get to see the consequences of my decisions beyond, 'Hey, the reapers are dead/gone/bros now! Hurray!' which even on its own is overshadowed by the rest of the head scratching wtfness present in the rest of the ending cinematic. That's not to say that Shepard should live, but I would definitely have liked some context. As it stands, Shepard's story was closed out in an unsatisfying way, and the series lacks any meaningful conclusion. That may have been the intention given the possibility for DLC or future titles. If that is the case then bravo for alienating the fans.

Watching the PR game related to this issue has been mildly disturbing. I understand that this is Bioware's tale to tell. Brouhaha regarding the ending was circulating through the internet even before the game was released. I knew that there was the risk of disappointment, and even with the ending I am still glad that I bought the game. That being said, I have been invested in this series since ME's launch in 2007. Call it entitlement if you want, but I felt that I was owed an ending that was consistent with the quality of Bioware's other games, or even the other 98% of ME3. 

If ending DLC does become a thing, I don't know if i'll partake of it. I seriously doubt that any addendum will be released free of charge, and that possibility paints my relationship with Bioware in an uncertain light. I'm not going to beat my chest and swear off Bioware games forever, but I will approach any future endeavors with a greater degree of caution. If these endings and the resulting PR platitudes (Defending your endings by implying that some people are overly invested is certainly a novel approach) represent the quality of what I can expect going forward, then it's time to start voting with my wallet. I just don't know if I can trust Bioware to lovingly craft a complete story anymore.

Regardless of my feelings of the subject, I support what you guys are doing here.

Hold the line. 

#47465
Hydralysk

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Conspicuous Cake wrote...

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

Erm...guys? What happened to Retake ME on childsplay chippin?
Is it down?

http://retakemasseff...ect-childs-play


It seems to be, but I don't know why.
I hope it's nothing bad.

Stealthy bioware ninja toook down our donation page!!!!!:ph34r:

EDIT: Oh and 1900 apparently,:lol:

Modifié par Hydralysk, 19 mars 2012 - 08:54 .


#47466
Doppelgaenger

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DJBare wrote...

B33ker wrote...


It's long at about 30 minutes, but I think it's worth it, so reposting for those who may have missed.

It's not often I'll watch a 30 minute video of a talking head, but he kept my attention throughout, good ideas and opinions.


I agree completly. Especially the crucible trap is such an interesting idea. Pull through regardless... that would have been nice. AND CLOSURE god this idea for Tali's home. Why could we not get it?
http://i14.photobuck...cs/KirkLine.jpg

#47467
Conspicuous Cake

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Xyalon wrote...

Anything new as we march into the 1900s?


Nothing official, no.
We are trying to get #RetakeME3 and #retakemass effect trending on twitter right now, though.

#47468
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MordiMoro wrote...

Mastermadskills wrote...

Kurt of the 301st Storming Mormons Reporting In.

The planned letter I am sending to 15 physical locations as well as 15+ internet locations is going well. It will be HUGE. Five, possibly even six pages long.  All of it written with the best literary skill, all 142 of my IQ points, and every ounce of persuasion I can muster.  It will be sent to all major leaders at Bioware, and all reviewers of major video games.

As stated earlier, I persuaded the Governor of Utah to allocate funds to the University of Utah through use of a letter where nobody else could.  I have invested more time already into this letter to Bioware asking for better endings than I did with the letter I sent to the Governor.

HOLD THE LINE, PEOPLE, HOLD THE LINE!




6 pages?
But do not read ... too! Image IPB


Not sure what you are trying to say.

It is still in draft form, if that is what you are asking.

#47469
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woah, I did not knew about that FB incident, and their immediate "fix" in the middle of a sunday night. The "PR damage control" thread is quite informative, and I ask everyone who didn't read it yet, or didn't knew about it, to go through it (at least the OP)
It is pretty obvious bioware does everything except ignoring us, but some people still got that feeling. The only thing which does confuse me a bit, is the fact that there's still no definite and clear answer or response. It can't imagine bioware still thinking about if there should be a ending-DLC or not. It's either YES or NO. There is no inbetween.

infinitekilan
No. A Tali-lovers thread hit 5005 pages in a month before it was locked.

wow, are you serious? seeing miranda thread about 1800 pages, Liara thread about 800 pages, I can't imagine a thread going over nine thousaaaaa.. I meant over 5000 pages.

OT: firefox is awesome, after my PC crashed, my whole post was still in that textfield

#47470
Conspicuous Cake

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Hey guys!

We've been holding the line for 1900 pages!
Cheers!

Here's to how many more pages we have to do it.
We are strong enough!

#47471
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Just tweeted my support (whilst giving an exam).

One of my students turned in their exam, saw my totally discrete N7 sticker on my laptop (which I use to, you know, tweet and browse this thread while giving exams) and warned "if you haven't finished the third game yet, don't get your hopes up." Upshot: I pointed him to the #RetakeME tweet onslaught. Downside: at least one student knows that when I type furiously with serious, squinted eyes, I'm probably not doing research. *sigh*

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Katosu wrote...

Green man5490 wrote...

IGN takes another shot at us skip to two minutes


Note that he has the same number of Dislikes as Likes. ;) Shows just that many people don't really care for their ****.


Funny thing tough is that the bashing does not come from the fans (like they sey) but from a game magazine.. thats kinda telling really...

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Geinen wrote...


I just...can't get over this picture when I think of Tali revealing her face lol:

http://i230.photobuc...ardWrexTali.png

This one was one of the most epic:) I also liked one with CSI: Miami's Horatio, can't find it though.

#47474
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Tira_Lu wrote...

I really do not understand twitter... how long till a trend shows up?

Last time I read up on that stuff, Twitter was still being closed-mouthed about the algorithms they use to select trending topics, but it's based on a lot more than just sudden tweet volume increases. Bottom line is that you can never guarantee that you'll be identified as "trending."

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Let's ask BioWare to make perfect ending DLC. A lot of fans are doing good jobs by supporting such DLC with polls and suggestions:

http://social.biowar...ndex/10133310/1
http://social.biowar...ndex/10259442/1

Modifié par Seival, 19 mars 2012 - 08:56 .