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[Teredan]

Also note that the endings don't reflect choice in a interesting manner.
Why not have endings where shepard and crew is happy but the galaxy is somewhat more screwed than in and ending where the whole crew make some kind of ultimate sacrifice and leave the galaxy in a way better shape.

[Xayoz]

RiouHotaru wrote...


BW told us, the endings won't make everybody happy.
Truth is: the endings will make everybody sad.

Thats the intent. The endings are supposed to be sad.

Gotta give some props to Bioware for daring to bend the glorious US archetype of 'good guys always win'.

[Big I]

balancer wrote...

DiegoProgMetal wrote...

****SPOILER***** ALERT ***** SPOILER *****


But let's think for a moment: IF we save earth, and destroy the reapers. The citadel is moved to Earth during the game, and the final choice will happen there. Which means Shepard is in Earth after the destruction, so are all the civilizations, ships, troops, from every species Shepard gathered to help retake Earth. The protheans reverse engineered the mass relays. So, with the help of Turians, Salarians, Asari, Krogan (maybe even the Prothean himself), which will want to get back to their homeworlds, wouldn't it be a logic outcome that everybody would try to build mass relays ASAP, and eventually finding the Normandy crew wherever they are?


As we say in Brazil, "Hope is the last one to die!".

Interesting, the fleets will be stuck at the local cluster when the relays die down, and because of mars humans discovered the mass relay by pluto, so maybe the key lies on mars. still sad for shepard and his crew tho.
their is always hope:P

Hope those quarians brought some liveships or they and the turians are going to starve if the Citadel is destroyed.


Furthermore, how much does it suck for the quarians stuck in the Sol system? Sorry guys, looks like we're back to being space vagrants again, guess we should have stayed on Rannoch.


Also, I know I'm in the minority here but I'd be willing to sacrifice Shepard, the Normandy and everyone on it to save the relays. Destroying the relays ruins it for me.

Modifié par LookingGlass93, 28 février 2012 - 05:17 .

[CerberusSoldier]

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Has any Bioware developer commented on this? If not, then it's probably legit.

  


No they locked one thread down so its real

[Alex06]

NovemEnuma wrote...

SonofOrion wrote...

NovemEnuma wrote...

Mims wrote...

There is no surprise ending, the files have been mined. Unless it is well hidden, or a troll by bioware, the endings above are the only endings.

There's a surprise ending if you complete a New Game+. The official N7 strategy guide makes mention of it, alongside the other 6 endings.

The guide lies. The files have been mined. There's no secret ending.

Apparently you "lie", the guy above you said so; the files said so. There's 6 default ones 1 surprise one for New Game+, but, the surprise one more than likely is revealed now because of file mining.

There are 7 endings we know of. 6 of them are:
2 endings for Control
4 endings for Destroy
Each of these range from "Earth is screwed" to "Earth is ok". This has been confirmed by several people who played the game early.

There's also another one, a 7th ending, which is stated to be an ending we can achieve if we "get a perfect game", and that is the Synergy, or "Merge" ending. (They are one and the same) I'm guessing the NG+ ending is this one.

I believe the relays are destroyed in all the endings. Perhaps there is a control ending in which this does not happen, but otherwise, all of the endings cause the relays to blow up, stranding billions and ending galactic civilization as we know it.

Modifié par Alex06, 28 février 2012 - 05:18 .

[ratzerman]

Eclipse_9990 wrote...
Well.. Considering that the fans are the ones buying their games it would behoove them to atleast think about how we feel. Especially if we've invested so much of our time(and money) in the previous parts of the series. 

But we're all going to buy the game anyway. ME3 has already passed ME2 in pre-order sales. Even if every person in this thread refuses to buy the game, it would still be a drop in the bucket.

[magnuskn]

Smecky Kitteh wrote...

MJF JD wrote...

i dont even mind if shepard dies, i am willing to make that sacrifice, but i dont see why my crew has to get stranded on some random paradise planet that is apparently never found.

Wowers them. Shepard only dies in most of the a good portion of the supposed endings. 

Let's not forget that Garrus and Tali face slow starvation on said "paradise planet", unless its fauna is dextro-aminous, then it's the rest of the crew who are screwed.

[Arch1eviathan]

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Modifié par Smecky Kitteh, 28 février 2012 - 05:18 .

[Nathan Redgrave]

Xayoz wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...


BW told us, the endings won't make everybody happy.
Truth is: the endings will make everybody sad.

Thats the intent. The endings are supposed to be sad.

Gotta give some props to Bioware for daring to bend the glorious US archetype of 'good guys always win'.

Not that they're the first to do so, or have done so as well as they could have.

[CerberusSoldier]

Xayoz wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...


BW told us, the endings won't make everybody happy.
Truth is: the endings will make everybody sad.

Thats the intent. The endings are supposed to be sad.

Gotta give some props to Bioware for daring to bend the glorious US archetype of 'good guys always win'.

   


Now they can burn in their BS . This is not a war its a pathetic piece of crap of a story with Shepard dieing for no meaning at all

[Teredan]

Xayoz wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...


BW told us, the endings won't make everybody happy.
Truth is: the endings will make everybody sad.

Thats the intent. The endings are supposed to be sad.

Gotta give some props to Bioware for daring to bend the glorious US archetype of 'good guys always win'.

That is bs. Letting bad guys win/leaving good guys in awfull shape is really nothing new. And forcing players in a game like ME into those endings is just poor taste.

I don't get the notion how sad endings are supposedly better than good ones.
It all depends on execution.

Again I also don't get the notion why people feel the need to deny other endings that people want.

Anyone that thinks differently has a big lack of fiction experience.

Modifié par Teredan, 28 février 2012 - 05:19 .

[Heather Cline]

ratzerman wrote...

Eclipse_9990 wrote...
Well.. Considering that the fans are the ones buying their games it would behoove them to atleast think about how we feel. Especially if we've invested so much of our time(and money) in the previous parts of the series. 

But we're all going to buy the game anyway. ME3 has already passed ME2 in pre-order sales. Even if every person in this thread refuses to buy the game, it would still be a drop in the bucket.

I think that eclipse meant future games. If you tick off the fan base now, there is no reason for them to buy future games and as such it will cause bioware to fail and thus eventually die off becaue the fans who are the ones who buy the games won't want to play them because of the endings that suck.

[Arthas9]

No offence but why so many people are obsessed with all this LI thingy and an optional ending with the LI? Like the whole trilogy and story would be about nothing but our "dashing commander" getting layed. ... I mean, come on! I like the idea of the love interests (and I find Tali's character and her story and culture very amusing), but it's not a romantic tale, but a huge apocalyptic sci-fi, with some bad ass "boys will be boys" attitude in it (no offence to the lady fans and femshep players).

Modifié par Arthas9, 28 février 2012 - 05:30 .

[Alex06]

Nathan Redgrave wrote...

Xayoz wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...


BW told us, the endings won't make everybody happy.
Truth is: the endings will make everybody sad.

Thats the intent. The endings are supposed to be sad.

Gotta give some props to Bioware for daring to bend the glorious US archetype of 'good guys always win'.

Not that they're the first to do so, or have done so as well as they could have.

Again, this would be fine if the game was linear, but since we are given choice and made to think it matters and can change the outcome...Well, it would be at least nice and respectful to the players who have been lead in this direction to get their happy ending. If this was another Call of Duty type of game with a fixed ending, fine, give us a sad ending, but with player choice, it only feels bitter to always get the same ending no matter what.

[scotkrow]

Luc0s wrote...

scotkrow wrote...

Luc0s wrote...

scotkrow wrote...

Has anyone thought that this is bioware's game and story, we are only the fans,

We are not "only" their fans, we are the most important thing to BioWare, EVER.

A video-game or company without a fanbase won't survive for long. BioWare needs us and they know it.

Yeah read the rest of what I said, also on the previous page read what I said, and then sit and think for an hour or two until it all sinks into your thick head, and come up with a responce.

I've read your posts (even before I wrote my first reply). I was not impressed. 

My point still stands.

I'm awaiting your reponse to my point, a proper reponse this time hopefully and not some angry fanboy screaming like the reponse above.

HAHA!  I love how you're calling me a fanboy but spouting about "only" being their fans.  I'll just say this, I'm simply going to play the game, because I enjoy Mass Effect, I'm going to see with my own eyes, hear with my own ears and feel with my own emotions when I finish the game, and not believe the "leaks" until I confirm them with my own experience.  If it turns out there is no "happy ending" I will probably find it refreshing because happy endings are everwhere, and therefore boring.  I will cheer for the originality, and should the Mass Effect franchise continue minus Shepard, I will continue to play it until such a point as I am dissatisfied by the gameplay I expeirence, not the rumors going around before a games release.

[cerberus1701]

DiegoProgMetal wrote...

****SPOILER***** ALERT ***** SPOILER *****


But let's think for a moment: IF we save earth, and destroy the reapers. The citadel is moved to Earth during the game, and the final choice will happen there. Which means Shepard is in Earth after the destruction, so are all the civilizations, ships, troops, from every species Shepard gathered to help retake Earth. The protheans reverse engineered the mass relays. So, with the help of Turians, Salarians, Asari, Krogan (maybe even the Prothean himself) *, which will want to get back to their homeworlds, wouldn't it be a logic outcome that everybody would try to build mass relays ASAP, and eventually finding the Normandy crew wherever they are?


As we say in Brazil, "Hope is the last one to die!".

EDIT: forgot about Quarians and Geth!*

This makes perfect sense.

Add to that the fact that they've already confirmed mission style DLC and the fact that they simple are not going to *end* the universe of a AAA title that has consitently earned more acclaim and more cash for BW/EA I'd say this is likely.

But too many people want their bows tied up all nice and pretty NOW.

[turian councilor Knockout]

Teredan wrote...

Also note that the endings don't reflect choice in a interesting manner.
Why not have endings where shepard and crew is happy but the galaxy is somewhat more screwed than in and ending where the whole crew make some kind of ultimate sacrifice and leave the galaxy in a way better shape.

Because it's not a love story although there's an option like in Arkham City where you screw batman before the final battle where you can tell the universe to f*ck off and fly off with your LI to live happily ever after. 

[Capeo]

Xayoz wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...


BW told us, the endings won't make everybody happy.
Truth is: the endings will make everybody sad.

Thats the intent. The endings are supposed to be sad.

Gotta give some props to Bioware for daring to bend the glorious US archetype of 'good guys always win'.

Actually the "ultimate sacrifice" archetype is the far more prevelant one.

[CerberusSoldier]

Arthas9 wrote...

No offence but why so many people are obsessed with all this LI thingy and an optional ending with the LI? Like the whole trilogy and would be about nothing but our "dashing commander" getting layed. ... I mean, come on! I like the idea of the love interests (and I find Tali's character and her story and culture very amusing), but it's not a romantic tale, but a huge apocalyptic sci-fi, with some bad ass "boys will be boys" attitude in it (no offence to the lady fans and femshep players).

   



well its garbage thats why

[panamakira]

AlphaJarmel wrote...

I would pay for Happy Ending DLC. No joke.

THIS. Might as well. 

[Teredan]

Arthas9 wrote...

No offence but why so many people are obsessed with all this LI thingy and an optional ending with the LI? Like the whole trilogy and would be about nothing but our "dashing commander" getting layed. ... I mean, come on! I like the idea of the love interests (and I find Tali's character and her story and culture very amusing), but it's not a romantic tale, but a huge apocalyptic sci-fi, with some bad ass "boys will be boys" attitude in it (no offence to the lady fans and femshep players).

It's part of their payoff for sticking around for 3 games.
I personally never got into the romance of ME since they always felt really weird which is why my personal master save is a shepard is solo and I also was somewhat ticked off by the lack of friendship dialog with jack and miranda for male shep in 2.
But really there is no good reason to deny other people that one scene if they want it.
It's part of the game and somewhat one of the major subplots.

[magnuskn]

ratzerman wrote...

Eclipse_9990 wrote...
Well.. Considering that the fans are the ones buying their games it would behoove them to atleast think about how we feel. Especially if we've invested so much of our time(and money) in the previous parts of the series. 

But we're all going to buy the game anyway. ME3 has already passed ME2 in pre-order sales. Even if every person in this thread refuses to buy the game, it would still be a drop in the bucket.

The point there to make is an issue of trust. BioWare already squandered a lot the trust they built up with their fanbase with Dragon Age 2. SWTOR also embittered a good number of their fans. And now ME3 is the third game in a row which throws away much of the freedom of decision players had in prior games from BioWare.

Losing the trust of your fans should never be done lightly. Getting it back is hard work and may never be done.

From my vantage point, BioWare has become arrogant. Sure, they will have great sales for this game. But they may have shot themselves in the foot in the long term.

I certainly will never give them my implicit trust again. Why should I after this disaster?

[xtorma]

ratzerman wrote...

Eclipse_9990 wrote...
Well.. Considering that the fans are the ones buying their games it would behoove them to atleast think about how we feel. Especially if we've invested so much of our time(and money) in the previous parts of the series. 

But we're all going to buy the game anyway. ME3 has already passed ME2 in pre-order sales. Even if every person in this thread refuses to buy the game, it would still be a drop in the bucket.

I will wait till it's on sale. you are right though , bioware can write this any way they want, and people have so much time invested in the other two games, that they will buy it full price anyway. they won't lose much.

It's like that steaming pile they call an mmo they produced. People will buy it because bioware is attached to it.

[Demigod]

One thing that doesnt seem to be touched in the spoilers mentioned so far. What is the scene after the credits the first review mentioned?