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#47851
Squadrito

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18 Brains wrote...

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Holy 1912 Pages Batman!

Anyways, I just hope BW comes out with SOMETHING to fix/correct/explain these endings.

/sadface


They put themselves between a rock and a hard place on this one.  If they come right out and say, "You're right, the ending isn't what we intended/was rushed etc., then the fans will have definitive proof as consumers that they gave us an incomplete product (the Prothean also comes to mind), the result of which would almost certainly lower EA's stock and the market value of ME3, but might also galvanize them to create a new DLC ending to save themselves from losing further customers.

The other side of the coin is that they could continue to be mum over the possibilities of an DLC Ending, and hope that this all blows over so they continue in whatever new direction they are going.  If this is the case, then not only do I want no part in buying their planned DLC (that don't affect the ending, i.e. multiplayer charactersImage IPB) but also will not buy future titles.  Their alienation of the consumers also will result in a loss of value, and even of introducing new customers due to word of mouth and gamer reviews that ultimately show dissatisfaction with the companies.

The only upside to the acknowledgement and response to the fans' feedback is that it can restore the faith of the consumers in the companies, and may aide them in escaping this debacle with less damage to their image.  That they went through with the endings at all, however, ensure that they won't make it out unscathed.

To the possibility of a (free) DLC ending with the choice that we were promised, and to send off a great trilogy in the way that it deserves,  I will hold the line.



Again, ^dis.Totally agree. I mean I'll probably be a DLC wh*** and purchase the dlc if it comes out because I seriously dont want to end this trilogy on that kind of note. 

#47852
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Marauder Shields: Shepard's Last Foe
EPISODE 7: The Cost of Survival

In this episode a steep price must be paid for the galaxy's survival. I suggest you play the "I'm Proud of You" track from ME3's soundtrack while reading this - just to get yourself into the mood. This is a direct continuation of episode 6, so read that one first if you haven't already.

Open the full version here: http://i.imgur.com/W2hfn.jpg

If you have any problems viewing the full version, find it at my DA profile, here: http://koobismo.deviantart.com (be sure to comment or say "hi" :)).

Previous episodes:
Episode 1: http://i40.tinypic.com/34eouuu.jpg
Episode 2: http://i.imgur.com/SU6Lq.jpg
Episode 3: http://i.imgur.com/eBrxF.jpg
Episode 4: http://i.imgur.com/59whH.jpg
Episode 5: http://i.imgur.com/6zyaQ.jpg
Episode 6: http://i.imgur.com/kw8MV.jpg
Also available on: http://koobismo.deviantart.com

HOLD THE LINE! 

#47853
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Em23 wrote...

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I find this interesting in that it's a shift in argument. Erik Norris on CraveOnline is now concerned that, if BioWare "caves" as he puts it, it will supposedly set the dangerous precedent that, if we want alternate endings in the future, they will always be provided as DLC and we will be charged for them.

I know.


I'd quite happliy pay for alternate happy ending dlc

Yeah, if there's a real slippery slope there, I'm not seein' it.

#47854
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Hmm, any news in the past 24 hours?

Also, it turns out a guy in my guild on SW:TOR actually likes the endings, but when I asked him why he was unable to explain.

Hmm, that DA3 announcement, unless it's vastly more like DA:O than DA2 I wont be touching it with a barge pole although before this ME3 debacle I'd have bought it out of loyalty BioWare have lost that privalege and they're gonna have to work to get it back.

#47855
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I can not see any precedence set by this as having an overly huge effect on the community as a whole....I mean how many games are not only this badly managed in the end but are clearly purposely misrepresented by the devs to us in the news. Actually I am pretty sure false advertising is illegal... while I can accept some parts are open to discussion the fact is we were told we would have choice and that choice would matter are blatantly the opposite of what we received.

Hey those ciggeretts are special and actually cure not give cancer, these cookies will make you fly, this car can go 2000 mph, this computer does this .... Things like these would be pounced on in a second but no one wants to enter the arena for the gamers i see... I admit the lie didn't have an overly big affect but the bottom line is a product was purposely misrepresented in order to get our money..... I should like to point out to politicians that while we only represent 1-2%(estimated ME3 sales figures) of the population of the US 2010 had a 37% turnout and we have proven we act towards issues we support

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#47856
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Alamandorious wrote...

Hm. Looking at the drill sergeant thing, I'd counter with this; if they fix the ending, every person that has been part of this movement buy 1 share in Bioware each ^^

Just a thought, don't take it too seriously ;)


Haha nice idea.  But to me that's just rewarding them for doing what they should have done all along.

#47857
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DJBare wrote...

Find below some important links you may want to follow.

Retake Mass Effect - Child's Play ***Please Donate***

Mass Effect 3 debacle - Pre-release developer quotes

Poll About The Ending

'Official' Poll For Mass Effect 3 Ending DLC

[POLL] What exactly would you change with the ending?

EA/Bioware in Full PR Damage Control Mode ***Regularly UPDATED***

Retake Mass Effect Banner Templates

Mission Statement Thread

Retake Mass Effect Group on BSN ***Please Join***

Mass Effect 3 Resource Site with collection of statements and reports

Retake Mass Effect 3 Statistics

Retake Mass Effect on Facebook

Retake Mass Effect on Youtube

Retake Mass Effect on Twitter
@RetakeME3

Keep it civil... and hold the line!


v1.13


Thanks for sum them up Image IPB

Hold The Line

#47858
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M2S SOLID JOSH wrote...

Ive had this account since 2007 and never used it. i will finally use it to hold the line


Welcome to the Ranks.
There are links in a few posts up you can click on to help support us.
Check out DjBare's posts he has all of the major ones.

Hold The Line.

#47859
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SkaldFish wrote...
Yeah, if there's a real slippery slope there, I'm not seein' it.

Yep, watch out for that sudden stop at the bottom.

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Koobarex wrote...

Marauder Shields: Shepard's Last Foe
EPISODE 7: The Cost of Survival

In this episode a steep price must be paid for the galaxy's survival. I suggest you play the "I'm Proud of You" track from ME3's soundtrack while reading this - just to get yourself into the mood. This is a direct continuation of episode 6, so read that one first if you haven't already.

Open the full version here: http://i.imgur.com/W2hfn.jpg

If you have any problems viewing the full version, find it at my DA profile, here: http://koobismo.deviantart.com (be sure to comment or say "hi" :)).

Previous episodes:
Episode 1: http://i40.tinypic.com/34eouuu.jpg
Episode 2: http://i.imgur.com/SU6Lq.jpg
Episode 3: http://i.imgur.com/eBrxF.jpg
Episode 4: http://i.imgur.com/59whH.jpg
Episode 5: http://i.imgur.com/6zyaQ.jpg
Episode 6: http://i.imgur.com/kw8MV.jpg
Also available on: http://koobismo.deviantart.com

HOLD THE LINE! 



Yay Marauder wins!

#47861
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Jimmie_Rox wrote...
Also, it turns out a guy in my guild on SW:TOR actually likes the endings, but when I asked him why he was unable to explain.


No surprise there. I wouldn't be surprised if the 'explanation' ends up being, "it was emotional/sent shivers down my spine/tickled the back of my ear" or whatever. :whistle:

#47862
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Just wait and see what they say at PAC East. That is going to be extremely interesting.

#47863
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Jimmie_Rox wrote...

Hmm, any news in the past 24 hours?

Also, it turns out a guy in my guild on SW:TOR actually likes the endings, but when I asked him why he was unable to explain.


Well I like capers on my spaghetti and I also am unable to explain why.

#47864
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Logging off for tonight. See you guys tomorrow. Keep holding the line and don't lose hope. We need to stay strong and united

#47865
ashley_actually

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Thanks for all of you who linked this pod cast because it's great. Listening to the guys trying to explain the endings and getting more and more frustrated is funny and cathartic.
http://my.spill.com/...-spoiler-review

#47866
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liggy002 wrote...

Just wait and see what they say at PAC East. That is going to be extremely interesting.


They can't afford to wait that long, frankly.

#47867
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On another note, I got my beginners license today! Yay!

30 years old, and just getting it lol. Never needed to try for a license until recently; everywhere I needed and wanted to go was doable via bus...but the last two major jobs I was on were out of town, so I need it now if I intend to do more travelling...which I do.

So if you're ever on a road in Halifax, and you see a care swerving on and off the sidewalk...please, please hope it isn't me >.<

#47868
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Ossborn76 wrote...


I couldn´t follow the thread for the last 20-30 pages, so I have to ask this again (sorry if somebody answered this already, I didn´t see it then):

I´ve seen a couple of "custom avatars" around here and would like to know, how you got them into your profile (and can I make an avatar out of my "main Shepard")?

Hold the line! 


Quoting myself...

If you are still there, B33ker, thanks for the PM, it worked :wizard:
(and yes, this is my favourite ME-character, Commander Jessica Shepard:wub:)

#47869
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Looks like someone at EA paid Yahoo news a pretty penny:

http://games.yahoo.c...-173411384.html

#47870
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It's not only the ending"s" that I don't get.

I don't get all this hate being directed towards us.
Gaming sites, other gamers.
I was under the impression we wanted to add things to the Mass Effect Universe, not take.
They keep saying that we are a bunch of entitled brats who want to take away what makes videogames art.
Thing is, you don't advertise how art is going to be, and then deliver the exact opposite.
You don't say you're not doing X, only to do X.

Why are people so ready to hate?
Why can't they respect our feelings?
We've been civil, we've been understanding.
Why can't they do the same?

I'm getting a bit tired of this.
But I promise I won't falter.
Sorry for this rant.

#47871
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 When I got my game 13 days ago, I could never imagine I would be in a "war" against Bioware a couple of days later...this is like every gamer's nightmare...:crying:

#47872
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German fleet here.
I see the enemy!
Demanding orders now.

#47873
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flyferrari02 wrote...

To help lift everyones spirits...found this while listening to this review.

Hold the Line!


Brilliant. Especially Tali.

*Tali'Zorah vas Normandy took up researching what happened to Commander Shepard on the Citadel during the Reaper's defeat. With regard to the Alliance report which stated "Shepard turned into energy while the Normandy shot away on a mass relay." she was quoted as saying "What bosh'tet wrote this crap?"*

Genius.

#47874
WvStolzing

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TamiBx wrote...

 When I got my game 13 days ago, I could never imagine I would be in a "war" against Bioware a couple of days later...this is like every gamer's nightmare...:crying:


...and, to think that one of the hottest debates before release was on Anderson's running animation...

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Ossborn76 wrote...

Ossborn76 wrote...


I couldn´t follow the thread for the last 20-30 pages, so I have to ask this again (sorry if somebody answered this already, I didn´t see it then):

I´ve seen a couple of "custom avatars" around here and would like to know, how you got them into your profile (and can I make an avatar out of my "main Shepard")?

Hold the line! 


Quoting myself...

If you are still there, B33ker, thanks for the PM, it worked :wizard:
(and yes, this is my favourite ME-character, Commander Jessica Shepard:wub:)


If you couuld pass that information along to me i would be truely greatful. :3