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silencemayday

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Geda173 wrote...

I got the one with "Never forget" although I thought about getting the one that says "Maurauder Shields", but I guess Never Forget is a better story to tell. It just worked, got the shirt in red. Sucks that Germany is on the list of delayed shippings, but whatever. I got my hero to wear :D


that is so cool :D - und tut mir leid das deutschland da irgendwie nachteile hat :( wusste ich nicht wie ich die seite gewählt habe ^^' aber vielen dank für deine unterstützung. :3 fühle mich indirekt sehr stolz und bla :D 
so; you're awesome and don't forget about telling your friends and other souls :3

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Stygian1 wrote...

XenoAlbedo wrote...

Shepard must build that house for Tali!


This is true. 


Maybe if the mass relays didn't bite the dust. *sniff*

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DJBare wrote...

I made this point before and I'll make it again, imagine or remember that project you worked on and all the effort you put into it, you step back and look at the project in pride, then one person says that does not work, it does not look right, now imagine 100 thousand people telling you the same thing, that is what the folk at bioware are experiencing right now.


Now imagine they gave you the puzzle piece to fix it, and said "We still love you Bioware!  Even if your corporate overlords don't!"... but alas, they debated on whether to put that piece in there, or whether they could just go "meh, we had a good run" and leave it.

And thus the voice of the internet was heard.. and it was displeased...

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Reporting in!
I've so lost interest in the multiplayer. whats the point if when I play Shepard it's all just moot? I think lately there's alot of smoke and "SQUIRREL!" tactics going on. here's hoping the Bioware/EA PRs are getting the fact that they can't divert us from the main focus of the situation.

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Hydralysk wrote...

Death of Seph wrote...

Alamandorious wrote...

Hey guys, I just had a thought;
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Agreed.  The guys and gals of Bioware have provided me with countless hours of entertainment and an epic universe which was a joy to get lost in.  It is just the feeling at the end ruining the memory.  Like getting off an awesome rollercoster ride only to be slapped in the face on the way out...Image IPB

I'd compare it more to the rollercoaster stopping by way of smashing into a wall.


And then you have an out-of-body experience where you see everyone die. And then you wake up in line for the roller coaster again.

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MaRsHy93

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XenoAlbedo wrote...

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Stygian1 wrote...

MaRsHy93 wrote...

My stints on the line have been brief so far, apologies, i'll be racking up the hours as of tomorrow, just about to begin a new search for updates in the past 12-15 hours, any news? last i heard was the little fb stunt with Jess responding that there will be a statement on Wednesday.


Check Yahoo. What you find shan't be pretty. 


A small, vocal percentage? Oh dear me, they then provide stats that demonstate its large backing (childs play, fb groups, petitions etc)

I think most of us would agree that going to the feds is a very bad move though, this kinda publicity is really harming the movement. I said the other day how a group can very easily be stereotyped because of individual actions, i hope this doesn't happen here

Though I agree that going to the feds is extreme, it is true that Bioware false advertised.


They did, yes. But what will going to the feds achieve? its just counter productive in almost every way thinkable. Plus the fact its fairly obvious they wont take action ..... Unless they're all ME fanatics too ;)

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DJBare

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Neroteyen wrote...

Think we'll cap 2000 tonight?

Maybe, the united states west coast should just be piling in.

Hold the line.

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G Kevin wrote...
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Maybe that rock counts? Ya know, a piece of the homeworld atleast. Oh, but wait, unless you play MP Shep dies in the end. *sadface*

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DJBare wrote...

I made this point before and I'll make it again, imagine or remember that project you worked on and all the effort you put into it, you step back and look at the project in pride, then one person says that does not work, it does not look right, now imagine 100 thousand people telling you the same thing, that is what the folk at bioware are experiencing right now.


Very true. It's however not only that endings are with any logic, it's the statements made pre-release. A lot of their players are annoyed, and rightfully so, that they didn't get what was promised. As much as I wouldn't want it to be true, but that is the harsh reality. The backlash was inevitable.

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Spartas Husky

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DJBare wrote...

I made this point before and I'll make it again, imagine or remember that project you worked on and all the effort you put into it, you step back and look at the project in pride, then one person says that does not work, it does not look right, now imagine 100 thousand people telling you the same thing, that is what the folk at bioware are experiencing right now.


I am sorry but that is called Proffesional Critique. I can excel, I can work nights, I can break my brain and back making the best at what I do. But I am not stupid enough to fool myself into thinking that I alone am the sole ... "avatar" of the ending product. As a writter, producer, designer, advertiser w/e I know that no matter how much I try my work is linked to that of others. I know that we must all endure and work together, but i also know that like in everything else, the group is only as strong as its weakest link.

heh, like Samara puts it, they are a tragic figure, but not a sympathetic one. To each their own praise, in the end, the product is what will be remembered. I work in adverstiment and it is the same. Most dont care what work you put into, most dont care what you did, how many nights you've spent. The ending product, a sum of all its pieces is what matters. You product could be great, but if it has no hook you wont get the audience. Your book could be great, but if the last 5% is horrible you will loose w/e audience.

Regardless, if the people at Bioware are as smart as I think they are, then they will take no offense in people lashing out, because they know the ending sucks. They know their work is praised, but no matter what the ending was horrible. Learn from it, and realize associating with EA is a deal with the devil, it can pay huge, or make you loose huge.

In this case, all they can do is learn from it. The Journy is just as important as the destination they aren't mutually exclusive.

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Stygian1 wrote...

XenoAlbedo wrote...

Shepard must build that house for Tali!


This is true. 


And the foundation is already there. The Stone he gave her!

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firstarioch wrote...

Spoke to Vin Diesel publicist.. Interesting chat...send him email which he requested...lets see.
was very keen ...I dont want to jump for joy here as nothing is set in stone but ...
lets see..We just need one voice ...one bloody powerful voice which can cut the mustard here and give us game ,set and match. At the moment we are 2 sets to love and break p in 3rd .But the match is still going on and anything can happen...
This is what I wrote him :

That's awesome, but i;m a bit skeptical on this one. 

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silencemayday wrote...

Geda173 wrote...

I got the one with "Never forget" although I thought about getting the one that says "Maurauder Shields", but I guess Never Forget is a better story to tell. It just worked, got the shirt in red. Sucks that Germany is on the list of delayed shippings, but whatever. I got my hero to wear :D


that is so cool :D - und tut mir leid das deutschland da irgendwie nachteile hat :( wusste ich nicht wie ich die seite gewählt habe ^^' aber vielen dank für deine unterstützung. :3 fühle mich indirekt sehr stolz und bla :D 
so; you're awesome and don't forget about telling your friends and other souls :3


Not your fault. The reviews about the page are downright good. I have no problem with waiting for my shirt, it's already paid for and the money will hopefully reach Child's play in a few days.

Gab es schon viele die das Shirt gekauft haben? War nur kurz auf deinem Blog und da hab ich wenn mich nicht alles täuscht bereits 2 verkaufte Shirts gesehen. Oder so :)

Modifié par Geda173, 20 mars 2012 - 01:23 .


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Ticonderoga117 wrote...

G Kevin wrote...
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Maybe that rock counts? Ya know, a piece of the homeworld atleast. Oh, but wait, unless you play MP Shep dies in the end. *sadface*


and regardless on whether you play MP or not, Tali is stuck on planet stupid with Mr. Irunawayz Joker. 

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Esoretal wrote...

And then you have an out-of-body experience where you see everyone die. And then you wake up in line for the roller coaster again.


As it stands on my end I managed to get back on, lose hope half way through and promptly jumped out.  Will remain a broken heap on the floor, holding the line, until improvements are made or some kind soul takes pity and sweeps whats left of me under the rug.

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DJBare

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Keep it civil... and hold the line!


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Looks like the charity is back online. About 68k!

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Alamandorious

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Charity page is back up, folks!

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Alamandorious wrote...

Charity page is back up, folks!


Yay \\o/

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Stygian1 wrote...

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

G Kevin wrote...
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Maybe that rock counts? Ya know, a piece of the homeworld atleast. Oh, but wait, unless you play MP Shep dies in the end. *sadface*


and regardless on whether you play MP or not, Tali is stuck on planet stupid with Mr. Irunawayz Joker. 


And in the best Green ending, Mr. Runs-Like-Chicken has babies with Mrs. Sexbot. I guess that's haptic interfacing for you.

I think of Mordin at times like this. "Implications *Inhale* unpleasant."

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Hold the line.

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DJBare wrote...

I made this point before and I'll make it again, imagine or remember that project you worked on and all the effort you put into it, you step back and look at the project in pride, then one person says that does not work, it does not look right, now imagine 100 thousand people telling you the same thing, that is what the folk at bioware are experiencing right now.


It may hurt, but anyone worth their salt would at least listen to the voices of those who were disagreeing with you. They may change it, they may not, but they would listen and if they had any respect for the people they made it for they would at least engage in open debate to defend their decisions.

BioWare haven't done this yet, and I'm not saying that they won't. What I am saying is that if 100k people think so highly of your work and take issue with something they feel is beneath you, something which you made for them, if you have any pride as a craftsman then you will see that beneath the criticism is love and behind that love is support and something that could drive you to greatness.

If a kid hands in sub-par work at school, any half-decent teacher would ask why, give feedback and maybe try to help get them back on track. They wouldn't just shrug it off and say nothing for fear of hurting their feelings.

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Hey, hey! Good to see the donation page is back up there.

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MaRsHy93

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firstarioch wrote...

Spoke to Vin Diesel publicist.. Interesting chat...send him email which he requested...lets see.
was very keen ...I dont want to jump for joy here as nothing is set in stone but ...
lets see..We just need one voice ...one bloody powerful voice which can cut the mustard here and give us game ,set and match. At the moment we are 2 sets to love and break p in 3rd .But the match is still going on and anything can happen...
This is what I wrote him :


Amazing work, out of interest how did the BBC interview go? As a Briton, i know the influence they carry over the country and this certainly would be a big big step in the right direction to have their awknowledgment, let alone support

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@Spartas Husky

You're exactly right. Currently, one person is getting a lesson in what sells, couple others are getting a lesson in what are the basic mistakes you can do in storytelling. Those lessons will carry a pretty hefty price tag. Hopefully the message sinks in.