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[Geinen]

wicked_being wrote...

Hey guys check out this thread:
http://social.biowar...ndex/10290354/1

Apparently IGN will be having a livestream discussing the ending with viewers on Friday. In my opinion, I don't think any of us should go and participate (but hey it's your choice if you want to). This reeks of dirty PR tactic.

It does have a bad vibe to it.  I imagine it would be easy for it to spiral out of control.  The very control we are working to maintain here.

[MeldarthX]

RDSFirebane wrote...

Welsh Inferno wrote...

If you are going to respond to Chris be respectful and civil. As he said himself: Respect goes both ways.

Oh I am - I even said thank you........we disagree on the ending but agree on ME - right now they are feeling big time heat - specially with Best Buy refunding and now Amazon refunding opened games......

Really both of them are refunding now?

People are reporting returning to Best Buy - was asked; didn't work; or protesting........guy answered.......and worker from Best Buy said......Hold the Line -

When they are authorising refunds for opened games........its major cause they don't do it; even if its broken; usually just give store credit.

[MordicaiBlack]

Bruinbear wrote...

Niniva wrote...

www.youtube.com/watch

Apologies if this is a repost.

Still a better ending than what we got in ME3.

In really did lol!  Then I cried a little because it really was better than the offical endings...

me and my brother watched this....and both lost the plot, dam funny and the music is perfect

[Kuranai3]

Sleep time. Good night and keep holding the line everyone o/

[Razith]

KroganBillie wrote...



EA's future...Looks none too bright atm

The scariest thing about this entire thing was the single player content locked out....Not a fan of not being able access LOTSB, Kasumi, and Overlord a few years from now if I decide to go back and play it down the road again, or if someone else wants to play it that I introduced to the game.

I hope they make a workaround for this issue in ME and Dragon Age Origin's case.

[KLGChaos]

TamiBx wrote...

1945: the war comes to an end!

Now let's hope our war comes to an end soon as well...

Actually, the war didn't truly end until 1952.... Well, at least according to Hellboy. >.>

[Auralius Carolus]

TamiBx wrote...

1945: the war comes to an end!

Now let's hope our war comes to an end soon as well...

Yeah. Unless you're that guy with the Czech fleet. Then you end up behind Iron Curtain for the next half-century!

[MordicaiBlack]

Geinen wrote...

wicked_being wrote...

Hey guys check out this thread:
http://social.biowar...ndex/10290354/1

Apparently IGN will be having a livestream discussing the ending with viewers on Friday. In my opinion, I don't think any of us should go and participate (but hey it's your choice if you want to). This reeks of dirty PR tactic.

It does have a bad vibe to it.  I imagine it would be easy for it to spiral out of control.  The very control we are working to maintain here.

it's a trap....

[Razith]

KroganBillie wrote...



EA's future...Looks none too bright atm

The scariest thing about this entire thing was the single player content locked out....Not a fan of not being able access LOTSB, Kasumi, and Overlord a few years from now if I decide to go back and play it down the road again, or if someone else wants to play it that I introduced to the game.

I hope they make a workaround for this issue in ME and Dragon Age Origin's case.

[Edbi]

TamiBx wrote...

1945: the war comes to an end!

Now let's hope our war comes to an end soon as well...

nope "indoctrination" begins in 1968 - 1989 in "Czech fleet"

[MisterP146]

TSC_1 wrote...

Dang it, Bioware - say something! This isn't going to just fade away, no matter how hard you hope.

No, no it's not

[MeldarthX]

wicked_being wrote...

Hey guys check out this thread:
http://social.biowar...ndex/10290354/1

Apparently IGN will be having a livestream discussing the ending with viewers on Friday. In my opinion, I don't think any of us should go and participate (but hey it's your choice if you want to). This reeks of dirty PR tactic.

Of course its a trap - but we can easier turn it on them - with intelligent answers - making your enemies look stupid; will make them angry........and when they are angry they will make a mistake.  That is when you go in for the kill...

[ashley_actually]

infinitekilan wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

ashley_actually wrote...

I almost spotted a magical unicorn.
My twitter friend just beat the game and doesn't hate the ending. He is indifferent. Described the ending as unclear but doesn't care if there is a new one or not.
Still haven't found anyone I know who actively likes/loves the ending tho. Meh whatever is the best I could find. Magical unicorn achievement still locked.

If it makes you feel any better, everyone I know hates it. 

I just spoke to a friend of mine who finally beat the game, and to be perfectly honest, I thought he'd like it since he's a deeply philosophical person.

He hated it, and is upset, but "ces't la vie."

It's good for him if he can deal with the ending. Not hating it is the most positive response I've personally come across lol. I have another friend who hates it as much as me. We've been talking about it nonstop for a week. He's my sponsor away from this support group lol. 

[IndustrializedTaco]

MeldarthX wrote...

wicked_being wrote...

Hey guys check out this thread:
http://social.biowar...ndex/10290354/1

Apparently IGN will be having a livestream discussing the ending with viewers on Friday. In my opinion, I don't think any of us should go and participate (but hey it's your choice if you want to). This reeks of dirty PR tactic.

Of course its a trap - but we can easier turn it on them - with intelligent answers - making your enemies look stupid; will make them angry........and when they are angry they will make a mistake.  That is when you go in for the kill...

I hope Colin is there. I seriously think he needs an educating after that whole "Opinion," bull****.

[Nephilim5]

TamiBx wrote...

1945: the war comes to an end!

Now let's hope our war comes to an end soon as well...

As long as it doesn't end up like the "war" in Afghanistan: neverending and frelling stupid..

[Fox544]

Computim wrote...

Fox544 wrote...

I may get yelled at for this but is anyone else kinda curious to see what would happen if the FTC decides to get involved? I mean it could change the entire entertainment industry forever in ways never imagined.

FTC'll take a look at it, it's not precedent setting or anything, companies have had to issue refunds and junk in the past.. I remember I got like $5.27 cents from something years ago as part of a 'class action settlement'.. just because I had registered the game on the company's site... I think it was back in the Sierra days.... it was kinda funny because I had never realized the game had advertised something completely different.

Personally I think we can resolve this with Bioware.. I think, in the future, the Marketing guys may want to tone things down, but I don't think anything good would come from complaints/lawsuits..it's not like Bioware would fix it.. they'd just give you your $60 and say "Bye bye" lol

lol nice. Then again getting money in the mail would be a nice change from losing it in the mail. :-P

I don't know though. What if this whole thing spun out of control and ended with new regulations that companies had to stay true to the original ideas and concepts or else spin off into new titles as to not potentially lead customers on?

What if Farcry 2 has to be renamed Africa: The Experience because it has nothing to do with FarCry?

What if we recieved no more movies like Halloween 3?

No more bait and switch stories like ME3?

[RussianOrc]

MeldarthX wrote...

wicked_being wrote...

Hey guys check out this thread:
http://social.biowar...ndex/10290354/1

Apparently IGN will be having a livestream discussing the ending with viewers on Friday. In my opinion, I don't think any of us should go and participate (but hey it's your choice if you want to). This reeks of dirty PR tactic.

Of course its a trap - but we can easier turn it on them - with intelligent answers - making your enemies look stupid; will make them angry........and when they are angry they will make a mistake.  That is when you go in for the kill...

This guy for president!!!

Modifié par RussianOrc, 20 mars 2012 - 04:30 .

[shephard987]

Geinen wrote...

wicked_being wrote...

Hey guys check out this thread:
http://social.biowar...ndex/10290354/1

Apparently IGN will be having a livestream discussing the ending with viewers on Friday. In my opinion, I don't think any of us should go and participate (but hey it's your choice if you want to). This reeks of dirty PR tactic.

It does have a bad vibe to it.  I imagine it would be easy for it to spiral out of control.  The very control we are working to maintain here.

I say we get this guy to participate, yeah? 


It's a joke, but hey, you never know right? 

Hold the Line

[TamiBx]

Edbi wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

1945: the war comes to an end!

Now let's hope our war comes to an end soon as well...

nope "indoctrination" begins in 1968 - 1989 in "Czech fleet"

Sorry, but you're still indoctrinated...Cold War, here we come! 

[DJBare]

MordicaiBlack wrote...

Geinen wrote...

it's a trap....

If you know it's a trap, then it's failed in it's function, I'd say this to people, join in the interview, just remember to take along the movement and it's ideals, maintain civility, be respectful and hold the line, if you feel you cannot handle being baited by the interview, then remain away from it.

[TamiBx]

Nephilim5 wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

1945: the war comes to an end!

Now let's hope our war comes to an end soon as well...

As long as it doesn't end up like the "war" in Afghanistan: neverending and frelling stupid..

No, I mean WWII. It does lead to Cold War...actually, we(fans vs Bioware) might be in more of a cold war state right now. Not attacking each other directly, but clearly not being friends either...

[Auralius Carolus]

Edbi wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

1945: the war comes to an end!

Now let's hope our war comes to an end soon as well...

nope "indoctrination" begins in 1968 - 1989 in "Czech fleet"

True enough, but you Czech guys have always had a good habit of doing things your own way. And Czeska Zbrojovka makes some fine peices...

[Computim]

wicked_being wrote...

Hey guys check out this thread:
http://social.biowar...ndex/10290354/1

Apparently IGN will be having a livestream discussing the ending with viewers on Friday. In my opinion, I don't think any of us should go and participate (but hey it's your choice if you want to). This reeks of dirty PR tactic.

Maybe someone saw our earlier comments about going to their publication's sponsors to complain about them haha.

Be careful who you step on when you climb the ladder of life, when you mistep, they may not be there to catch you and you will fall.

I suspect it'll be a heavily moderated campaign with 13 year olds spouting "YOU SUCK Buttware..etc".. speaking for our side... but hey, I may be wrong, I can always hope.

Modifié par Computim, 20 mars 2012 - 04:30 .

[Geinen]

Computim wrote...

wicked_being wrote...

Hey guys check out this thread:
http://social.biowar...ndex/10290354/1

Apparently IGN will be having a livestream discussing the ending with viewers on Friday. In my opinion, I don't think any of us should go and participate (but hey it's your choice if you want to). This reeks of dirty PR tactic.

Maybe someone saw our earlier comments about going to their publication's sponsors to complain about them haha.

Be careful who you step on when you climb the ladder of life, when you mistep, they may not be there to catch you and you will fall.

I suspect it'll be a heavily moderated campaign with 13 year olds spouting "YOU SUCK Buttware..etc".. speaking for our side... but hey, I may be wrong, I can always hope.

Thats exactly what im afraid of.   But I guess...thats why we need to be there even more.  To keep our side clean.

[MeldarthX]

MeldarthX wrote...

DivergentZen wrote...

I hate posting anything in a forum, but I thought this was worth bringing up.

We've gone through this "cycle" at least once before. The Neverwinter Nights 2 community went through nearly the exact same situation with Bioware. NWN2, a relativeily buggy game (ME3 has its fair share of bugs that reviewers have too easily excused) was delivered with an ending that made almost everything you did meaningless (Look it up). Fans complained and threatened various actions and such, but not much came of it, except some patches to fix bugs. The problem with the ending was not "fixed" until the Mask of the Betrayer expansion came out and extended the story, while explaining what exactly happened to your party members in the OC. Someone could probably dredged some of those old posts up, but Bioware has been down this road before, just never with social media as it is today.

Anyway, I hope they fix it. I suspect they intended some special expansion as DLC or whatever from the beginning. I believe they knew what they were doing with the ending and left the narrative open so they could extend it (not change it), or else they wouldn't have provided the "Breath" ending. But I also think they never expected the outcry over the ending(s) to be so loud. But then again, the ending(s) were terrible, objectively terrible. It's not a matter of taste or preference; there are things technically wrong with the endings as they are now. And it's my opinion that the ending to a work of fiction is at least as important as its beginning, as if the beginning of the Mass Effect saga was as "polarizing" as its current ending, the series would have never seen a sequel.

Hold the line for those who came before and those who will undoubtedly come after.

BW didn't make NWN2 - that was company that grew out of the ashes that was black isle - Obsidain......sadly they do good games but also known for them being buggy as hell.........they are under the claw of Atari

Yea yea I'm bumping this - and just was really thinking about this - DA2 - BW took some heat - took a bit of heat actually - but during it - a lot was deflected also onto EA - EA is used to heat - they have cleaned up their act a bit compaired to what they were during mid 2000s.  I actually like them again kinda.......

But for BW - this is the very first time they've truely been hammered by their fans.  I honestly think - they are stunned and trying to figure out what to do - I think for the first time - Their pride was saying - this can't be happening; its not that bad. 

Week 2 - and its only continued - they are listening to EA - they are seeing what they can do - and they know after testing the waters - we're not going to back down.  Cracks are there in the walls; they are getting bigger - keep up the mortoring their bases.........as I said - they can't keep this up for 24/7 - we can.  We have the numbers -

Contact everyone - newspapers - local TV - as someone said - Lets get a list of companies that advertise on the gaming sites that slandering us - write them and let know........

I can promise you; they are going to fight dirty - they will try and push our buttons; to hit for emotional outbursts.  We keep it respectful; civil - but we use everything we have........

HOLD THE LINE