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Computim wrote...

wicked_being wrote...

Hey guys check out this thread:
http://social.biowar...ndex/10290354/1

Apparently IGN will be having a livestream discussing the ending with viewers on Friday. In my opinion, I don't think any of us should go and participate (but hey it's your choice if you want to). This reeks of dirty PR tactic.


Maybe someone saw our earlier comments about going to their publication's sponsors to complain about them haha.

Be careful who you step on when you climb the ladder of life, when you mistep, they may not be there to catch you and you will fall.

I suspect it'll be a heavily moderated campaign with 13 year olds spouting "YOU SUCK Buttware..etc".. speaking for our side... but hey, I may be wrong, I can always hope.


In the recent weeks I have come to distrust anything IGN says. I wouldn't hold that against them to be honest.

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Alright guys, Arizona has to return sleeping pod for the night.  Please continue line holding.  Image IPBImage IPB

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beetlebailey123 wrote...

MeldarthX wrote...

wicked_being wrote...

Hey guys check out this thread:
http://social.biowar...ndex/10290354/1

Apparently IGN will be having a livestream discussing the ending with viewers on Friday. In my opinion, I don't think any of us should go and participate (but hey it's your choice if you want to). This reeks of dirty PR tactic.


Of course its a trap - but we can easier turn it on them - with intelligent answers - making your enemies look stupid; will make them angry........and when they are angry they will make a mistake.  That is when you go in for the kill...



I hope Colin is there. I seriously think he needs an educating after that whole "Opinion," bull****.


This is obviously a trap. However, it is an opportunity for us as well. As long as everyone involved with the Retake movement is civil, level-headed, and doesn't fall for their baited questions intended to ****** us off, we could actually gain momentum for ourselves.

Granted, they'll probably say "the devs wanted there to be speculation from everyone." However, the important thing is this: a little speculation is ok, even good. A LOT of speculation, is baaaaaaad. And the plot holes in this ending require one hell of a lot of speculation for them to make sense. That and Space Magic :wizard:.

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TamiBx wrote...

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TamiBx wrote...

1945: the war comes to an end!

Now let's hope our war comes to an end soon as well...


nope "indoctrination" begins in 1968 - 1989 in "Czech fleet"


Sorry, but you're still indoctrinated...Cold War, here we come! 



I don't know if you understood

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Geinen wrote...

wicked_being wrote...

Hey guys check out this thread:
http://social.biowar...ndex/10290354/1

Apparently IGN will be having a livestream discussing the ending with viewers on Friday. In my opinion, I don't think any of us should go and participate (but hey it's your choice if you want to). This reeks of dirty PR tactic.



It does have a bad vibe to it.  I imagine it would be easy for it to spiral out of control.  The very control we are working to maintain here.

Since IGN has an employee involved with the game they should just declare that they have a conflict of interest and stay on the sidelines.

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I've read something about BW cancelling a DA dlc to concentrate on "some more important things". Is that true? If so, are they talking about doing something about the ending?

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Computim wrote...

wicked_being wrote...

Hey guys check out this thread:
http://social.biowar...ndex/10290354/1

Apparently IGN will be having a livestream discussing the ending with viewers on Friday. In my opinion, I don't think any of us should go and participate (but hey it's your choice if you want to). This reeks of dirty PR tactic.


Maybe someone saw our earlier comments about going to their publication's sponsors to complain about them haha.

Be careful who you step on when you climb the ladder of life, when you mistep, they may not be there to catch you and you will fall.

I suspect it'll be a heavily moderated campaign with 13 year olds spouting "YOU SUCK Buttware..etc".. speaking for our side... but hey, I may be wrong, I can always hope.


The problem is.
It's hard to prevent someone from speaking on our behalf.

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Okay, I need sleep. 

So, SSV East Coaster is signing off!! 

See you tomorrow, soldiers [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/smile.png[/smilie]
Keep holding the line~

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Just wanted to drop in and say I'm definitely part of this movement. I went out of my way to avoid being spoiled before I played the game, unfortunately. (I bought the Collector's Edition, by the way.) I thought I'd messed up after I chose synthesis, AKA: green laser. So I reloaded the save and played through that half-an-hour again, choosing destroy, AKA: red laser. I was disgusted to see the exact same cut-scene. (I won't belabor the point, but how did Bioware think that lazy, low-quality ending would fly?)

I'd like to mention that I was disappointed back when Arrival DLC came out because Shepard was forced into blowing up Batarian space. I wonder now if that was a sign of what was to come with Shepard being railroaded into specific actions/endings.

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Indeed.. time for me to head to bed. Got to fight the reaper code tomorrow. Hold the line everyone, stay civil. BSN Batallion has its honour, professionalism, and integrity to uphold. Do it for everyone, including yourselves, so when this is over with we can look back and be proud of what we accomplished and not regret how we acted during it.

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RussianOrc wrote...

MeldarthX wrote...

wicked_being wrote...

Hey guys check out this thread:
http://social.biowar...ndex/10290354/1

Apparently IGN will be having a livestream discussing the ending with viewers on Friday. In my opinion, I don't think any of us should go and participate (but hey it's your choice if you want to). This reeks of dirty PR tactic.


Of course its a trap - but we can easier turn it on them - with intelligent answers - making your enemies look stupid; will make them angry........and when they are angry they will make a mistake.  That is when you go in for the kill...



This guy for president!!!


Hehe - thanks; but its true - you can easily control these things - control the answers - turn the tables on them - its debating 101. 

There is two ways to win a debate - first way is with facts and logic.  If you can prove your side with that - its usually a slam dung -  Second way......a much more dangerous way  is the emotional win -  This way can even win when faced with facts if you got something that can created that overwhelming emotional response.

Even faced with facts - its hard to defeat that second type without using the second tatic with the first one - if you can do that........then you're unstoppable.

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paxbanana3915 wrote...

Just wanted to drop in and say I'm definitely part of this movement. I went out of my way to avoid being spoiled before I played the game, unfortunately. (I bought the Collector's Edition, by the way.) I thought I'd messed up after I chose synthesis, AKA: green laser. So I reloaded the save and played through that half-an-hour again, choosing destroy, AKA: red laser. I was disgusted to see the exact same cut-scene. (I won't belabor the point, but how did Bioware think that lazy, low-quality ending would fly?)

I'd like to mention that I was disappointed back when Arrival DLC came out because Shepard was forced into blowing up Batarian space. I wonder now if that was a sign of what was to come with Shepard being railroaded into specific actions/endings.


Hi there!  I did exactly the same, choosing the green space magic Image IPB followed by a desperate reload to the red.  Sucks but hopefully you will find hope here with the line as I have.

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Darth Suetam wrote...

I've read something about BW cancelling a DA dlc to concentrate on "some more important things". Is that true? If so, are they talking about doing something about the ending?


Yes, it's true.

www.gamespot.com/news/dragon-age-ii-exalted-march-expansion-canceled-6367086

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infinitekilan wrote...

Darth Suetam wrote...

I've read something about BW cancelling a DA dlc to concentrate on "some more important things". Is that true? If so, are they talking about doing something about the ending?


Yes, it's true.

www.gamespot.com/news/dragon-age-ii-exalted-march-expansion-canceled-6367086


Interesting... Trying not to get my hopes up too much, but... Hmm.

Hold the Line. 

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SavageLycan wrote...

infinitekilan wrote...

Darth Suetam wrote...

I've read something about BW cancelling a DA dlc to concentrate on "some more important things". Is that true? If so, are they talking about doing something about the ending?


Yes, it's true.

www.gamespot.com/news/dragon-age-ii-exalted-march-expansion-canceled-6367086


Interesting... Trying not to get my hopes up too much, but... Hmm.

Hold the Line. 


Says the team was moved to DA3. Probably best you contained yourself lol.

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paxbanana3915 wrote...

Just wanted to drop in and say I'm definitely part of this movement. I went out of my way to avoid being spoiled before I played the game, unfortunately. (I bought the Collector's Edition, by the way.) I thought I'd messed up after I chose synthesis, AKA: green laser. So I reloaded the save and played through that half-an-hour again, choosing destroy, AKA: red laser. I was disgusted to see the exact same cut-scene. (I won't belabor the point, but how did Bioware think that lazy, low-quality ending would fly?)

I'd like to mention that I was disappointed back when Arrival DLC came out because Shepard was forced into blowing up Batarian space. I wonder now if that was a sign of what was to come with Shepard being railroaded into specific actions/endings.


Welcome!

The more I see joining our cause, the happier I feel! Don't give up, folks! This might take weeks, or even a month to get a clear answer. Let's show them we're not going away, no matter how many sites get paid off to try and make us look bad. Hooooolding the line! 

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infinitekilan wrote...

Darth Suetam wrote...

I've read something about BW cancelling a DA dlc to concentrate on "some more important things". Is that true? If so, are they talking about doing something about the ending?


Yes, it's true.

www.gamespot.com/news/dragon-age-ii-exalted-march-expansion-canceled-6367086


Thanks a lot.

But it sounded more like they are planning a new version of Baldur's Gate, updated to today's possibilities, than doing something for ME.

I for one would love it. And I don't like the DA series that much. So, it would be a double win.

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VonVerrikan wrote...

paxbanana3915 wrote...

Just wanted to drop in and say I'm definitely part of this movement. I went out of my way to avoid being spoiled before I played the game, unfortunately. (I bought the Collector's Edition, by the way.) I thought I'd messed up after I chose synthesis, AKA: green laser. So I reloaded the save and played through that half-an-hour again, choosing destroy, AKA: red laser. I was disgusted to see the exact same cut-scene. (I won't belabor the point, but how did Bioware think that lazy, low-quality ending would fly?)

I'd like to mention that I was disappointed back when Arrival DLC came out because Shepard was forced into blowing up Batarian space. I wonder now if that was a sign of what was to come with Shepard being railroaded into specific actions/endings.


Welcome!

The more I see joining our cause, the happier I feel! Don't give up, folks! This might take weeks, or even a month to get a clear answer. Let's show them we're not going away, no matter how many sites get paid off to try and make us look bad. Hooooolding the line! 


If this issue is not addressed in a major way either before or during PAX I will be shocked.

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infinitekilan wrote...

Darth Suetam wrote...

I've read something about BW cancelling a DA dlc to concentrate on "some more important things". Is that true? If so, are they talking about doing something about the ending?


Yes, it's true.

www.gamespot.com/news/dragon-age-ii-exalted-march-expansion-canceled-6367086

As joker says:
Yeah, go pout. I win.

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paxbanana3915 wrote...

Just wanted to drop in and say I'm definitely part of this movement. I went out of my way to avoid being spoiled before I played the game, unfortunately. (I bought the Collector's Edition, by the way.) I thought I'd messed up after I chose synthesis, AKA: green laser. So I reloaded the save and played through that half-an-hour again, choosing destroy, AKA: red laser. I was disgusted to see the exact same cut-scene. (I won't belabor the point, but how did Bioware think that lazy, low-quality ending would fly?)

I'd like to mention that I was disappointed back when Arrival DLC came out because Shepard was forced into blowing up Batarian space. I wonder now if that was a sign of what was to come with Shepard being railroaded into specific actions/endings.


Welome aboard!  We all feel your pain here!

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saw this earlier and thought it was worth posting.
If you are going to play Mass Effect 3 single player, play it offline. That way you don't add to data collected by bioware.
If you are going to play multiplayer, go into "extras", "online options" and turn off "data collection".
Anything helps to move our cause forward.

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 Here, a boost for moral, check out these graphs.

Hold the line.

#48648
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Fox544 wrote...
I may get
yelled at for this but is anyone else kinda curious to see what would happen if the FTC decides to get involved? I mean it could change the entire entertainment industry forever in ways never imagined.

Yeah the FTC thing seems rather extreme. But, to be honest, this whole situation makes me a little uncomfortable. I'm definitely standing with you guys, voting in every poll, donating to Child's Play, adding constructive feedback and all that because I feel really strongly about the endings.

But at the same time, BioWare has been my all-time favorite game company for years. I didn't think twice about taking vacation time to play ME3. They were the one game company whose products I would buy based on their name alone, no reviews needed.

I remember after I finished KOTOR2 with its original, abrupt ending, all I could think was.. "WTF?" Swiftly followed by "BioWare would never have done something like that."

And now here I am.

I really hope Bioware/EA can take a step back and understand how much those endings failed to resonate with a significant part of their player base. But at the same time, I hope we aren't encouraging irreparable damage to their reputation, you know?

I mean, if the best case scenario happens, and they deliver DLC that magically meets everyone's hopes and dreams, would there be as many people here passionately writing requests to various press outlets to feature
BioWare in a positive way, as a company who takes fan critiques to heart? Or would everyone just say 'about time!' and fade off, leaving the bad metacritic scores and polls for late comers to find?

Anyway sorry to ramble. Still holding the line! I just hope it is worth it in the end - for both sides. (*edited due to crazy formatting*)

Modifié par Missy_MI, 20 mars 2012 - 04:48 .


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SSV New Orleans reporting in. Holding the Line.

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This thread is going to reach 50,000 posts...

If nothing else, you'll make Bioware pay for extra storage space. Is that some form of payback? :P