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[KLGChaos]

It's amazing how much people have come together over this. I'm sure all of us have differing views on what endings we'd like, but we're all agreed that what we got isn't it. All united in a common goal and that goal is simple-- CHOICE. We want to choose our endings, just like we always have.

Never give up, never surrender!

[Tall]

Going to get some sleep....

California logging off for the night... /salute

-Holding the line-

[Bob3terd]

galaxidj wrote...


More than smoking, probably drop some hairs aswell and turn the rest gray

I think its fair to say after the facebook debacle bioware know they are treading on egg shells atm, as long as we hold the line we will get a statement eventually

[galaxidj]

this picture is by far my favorite fan art of ME.

Bioware!!! Give me that moment of femshep + liara where i can go "OMFG its so beautiful! *cries*"

[MischaMika]

Support from germany has arrived.
Good Morning everyone.
It's ten o'clock in Emsland, the sun shines, the birds are singing and i'm ready to hold the line!

/salute

[donmaciu]

 
One criticism of the movement that I often find is based on misunderstanding that we're just whining about there not being any happy ending in the game.This is not true. I think most of us suspected a bittersweet ending, because of the scale of this war. We were ready for Shepard dying in batlle with Reapers (possibly Harbringer). We somehow knew that death of our commander was inevidable. I even started writing fanfic about post war times where Shepard was a remembered war hero that died saving the Galaxy from the Reapers thread.

What we got was beyond dissapointing. A Starchild with logic problems. What else can we say about an entity using circular logic ("We created synthetics so they would kill you before you create synthetics that will kill you"), which also was disproved thoughout the game by my Shepard ( truce between Quarians and Geths, Joker Love Inerest ;D ).The choices weren't that logical eighter. Three colored options that are like from a different fairy tale.

Modifié par donmaciu, 20 mars 2012 - 09:02 .

[Ksandor]

I will not give up and I fully agree with you, except, I would like to have the possibility for a happy end (event if it is the only one among twenty).

Agreed but they try to give the impression that Happy Endings are always sunshine endings. They are not. We are not naive. Actually Bioware's endings are stupid and as professionals they should be ashamed of their blunder, overlooking the obvious relevant endings... They should correct the endings.

And Bioware ME3 team is not my enemy. The rest of the game is quite good actually. They have put a lot of work in it. I appreciate their hard work. I want them to make better games next time. Bad endigns are related to executive decisions. The matter is a corporate problem now and EA PR guys handle it. EA execs should understand that they made a mistake. They should correct it. If don't as a customer I am telling you EA I won't buy any of your games in future just to protest you.

Modifié par Ksandor, 20 mars 2012 - 09:03 .

[ReaverT]

What the...? O_O

People check this out!!! I don't know what to think but, seems it's going pretty rough

http://gamingsquid.c...aign=WordSocial

... I know we should be holding the line but... I'm starting to think we should focuss on the main problem. I know the ending sucks and that denies most of our actiones and choices in the entire trilogy... but the game itself its incredible despite the ending. As I said I don't know, does the game deserves this?

[PBerg]

Happy or unhappy lack any meaning for me. The only thing I want, no need, is for the myriad of choices I made during the game to actually matter in the end.

[Benirus]

ReaverT wrote...

What the...? O_O

People check this out!!! I don't know what to think but, seems it's going pretty rough

http://gamingsquid.c...aign=WordSocial

... I know we should be holding the line but... I'm starting to think we should focuss on the main problem. I know the ending sucks and that denies most of our actiones and choices in the entire trilogy... but the game itself its incredible despite the ending. As I said I don't know, does the game deserves this?

In some way yes. But on the other hand it's really sad

[KLGChaos]

ReaverT wrote...

What the...? O_O

People check this out!!! I don't know what to think but, seems it's going pretty rough

http://gamingsquid.c...aign=WordSocial

... I know we should be holding the line but... I'm starting to think we should focuss on the main problem. I know the ending sucks and that denies most of our actiones and choices in the entire trilogy... but the game itself its incredible despite the ending. As I said I don't know, does the game deserves this?

Trust me, I've been getting the word out that 99% of the game is amazing. However, when dealing with large companies like EA, the only way to get them to listen is to hit their pockets. As much as it pains me, as I've been a Bioware fan since the beginning, things like this help our cause.

[Alikan]

donmaciu wrote...

 
One criticism of the movement that I often find is based on misunderstanding that we're just whining about there not being any happy ending in the game.This is not true. I think most of us suspected a bittersweet ending, becouse of the scale of this war. We were ready for Shepard dying in batlle with Reapers (possibly Harbringer). We somehow knew that death of our commander was inevidable. I even started writing fanfic about after war where Shepard was a remembered war hero that died saving the Galaxy from the Reapers thread.

What we got was beyond dissapointing. A Starchild with logic problems. What else can we say about an entity using circular logic ("We created synthetics so they would kill you before you create synthetics that will kill you"), which also was disproved thoughout the game by my Shepard ( truce between Quarians and Geths, Joker Love Inerest ;D ).The choices weren't that logical eighter. Three colored options that are like from a different fairy tale.

Yup, always about the happy ending thing. To be honest though, why not? Dark, bleak, depressing endings are just as much cliche' as happy endings. And i say this even though i do not like so called disney endings.

My problem is not and have never been that there is no happy ending. Its a total 180 shift right at the end. Introducing a rather standard Deus Ex Machina ending thats more or less copied straight of  some other games and movies. The resulting huge plotholes that appear in even the previous two games.

And lets not even go into all they said right up to launch about wildly varied endings, not being just A,B;C choices etc.

[Ksandor]

ReaverT wrote...

What the...? O_O

People check this out!!! I don't know what to think but, seems it's going pretty rough

http://gamingsquid.c...aign=WordSocial

... I know we should be holding the line but... I'm starting to think we should focuss on the main problem. I know the ending sucks and that denies most of our actiones and choices in the entire trilogy... but the game itself its incredible despite the ending. As I said I don't know, does the game deserves this?

We as customers bought this game. The beginning is good, the ending is bad. I refuse to swallow the crap that says we should shut up because the rest of the game is good. This is a PR tactic. The endings decide the final rating of the game. If endings are bad the game is bad.

Consider this example: Hey guys our cars axels are faulty, we know this but they look cool on the road. If your family dies in an accident because of this production error don't be sorry. The car looks great.

Hold the line!

[redfield2]

ReaverT wrote...

What the...? O_O

People check this out!!! I don't know what to think but, seems it's going pretty rough

http://gamingsquid.c...aign=WordSocial

... I know we should be holding the line but... I'm starting to think we should focuss on the main problem. I know the ending sucks and that denies most of our actiones and choices in the entire trilogy... but the game itself its incredible despite the ending. As I said I don't know, does the game deserves this?

I think it's a pretty rough way to make them listen. 

[KLGChaos]

Ksandor wrote...

I will not give up and I fully agree with you, except, I would like to have the possibility for a happy end (event if it is the only one among twenty).

Agreed but they try to give the impression that Happy Endings are always sunshine endings. They are not. We are not naive. Actually Bioware's endings are stupid and as professionals they should be ashamed of their blunder, overlooking the obvious relevant endings... They should correct the endings.

And Bioware ME3 team is not my enemy. The rest of the game is quite good actually. They have put a lot of work in it. I appreciate their hard work. I want them to make better games next time. Bad endigns are related to executive decisions. The matter is a corporate problem now and EA PR guys handle it. EA execs should understand that they made a mistake. They should correct it. If don't as a customer I am telling you EA I won't buy any of your games in future just to protest you.

I agree. We lost a LOT in ME3. Friends died, the galaxy was devastated. Shepard surviving with his love interest isn't a sunshine ending. It's a hopeful one where they have a chance at a bright future. Nothing they can do will suddenly make everything that happened vanish. It won't bring the dead back or restore the broken planets. Nothing will be the same again. That part will remain. I just want to have Shep and his kids around to help fix things. At least for my main Paragon character... my Renegade Shep may have something different happen.

Modifié par KLGChaos, 20 mars 2012 - 09:14 .

[galaxidj]

donmaciu wrote...

 
One criticism of the movement that I often find is based on misunderstanding that we're just whining about there not being any happy ending in the game.This is not true. I think most of us suspected a bittersweet ending, becouse of the scale of this war. We were ready for Shepard dying in batlle with Reapers (possibly Harbringer). We somehow knew that death of our commander was inevidable. I even started writing fanfic about after war where Shepard was a remembered war hero that died saving the Galaxy from the Reapers thread.

What we got was beyond dissapointing. A Starchild with logic problems. What else can we say about an entity using circular logic ("We created synthetics so they would kill you before you create synthetics that will kill you"), which also was disproved thoughout the game by my Shepard ( truce between Quarians and Geths, Joker Love Inerest ;D ).The choices weren't that logical eighter. Three colored options that are like from a different fairy tale.

In all fairness i think what has most people ticked off is that the "final moments" were based on EMS instead of our choices in ME 1, 2 and 3. If it was based on our choices we could have endings like ME 2 where either everyone dies, some die, you die, or everyone lives to see another day.
It should be based on the path we took, not on EMS and defo not on casper with its space magic. lol

If BW changes the ending, no matter what they do it will be bitter sweet.
Allong the way in ME 1, 2 and 3 we already lost many (former)  crew members and in the fight against the reapers we lost alot of the people we worked hard for to unite. So no matter what its never going to be Rainbows and Butterflies (well the rainbows did happen cause of casper but w/e). What i do ask for is something with the crew, or LI. So that it can actualy be called Bitter Sweet.

[toots1221]

ReaverT wrote...

What the...? O_O

People check this out!!! I don't know what to think but, seems it's going pretty rough

http://gamingsquid.c...aign=WordSocial

... I know we should be holding the line but... I'm starting to think we should focuss on the main problem. I know the ending sucks and that denies most of our actiones and choices in the entire trilogy... but the game itself its incredible despite the ending. As I said I don't know, does the game deserves this?

Does the rest of the game deserve this? No I don't think it does, this makes me really sad because 95% of ME3 is incredible. I really hope Bioware decides to fix the endings, I want to be able to play and enjoy the game again.

[Mydknightcloud]

I'm here till the end. Our statement is clear, our cause is just. Hold the line for not just one game, hold the line for the future of gaming. Let them see that we as a consumer are not made of entitled whiny children, but of intelligent and well meaning adults.

We seek the end of an age where corporations can sell us any product no matter how poorly finished and tell us "too bad" because they already have our money. No longer will we spread good word about a product that in the end does not deliver what it promises. No longer will we back down when all the so called "experts" say our concerns are unfounded. We are the public and we set the rules for what is acceptable.

Let our outrage fill these forums. Let these faceless corporations see that rushing writers and developers can only lead to a product that will cause nothing but loss of sales and consumer mistrust. Let them see that the public will NOT tolerate an inferior product, a product that does not produce what has been promised.

Stand fast, stand strong, stand together. HOLD THE LINE!
Mydknight out-

[XJ347]

Well I am hitting the sack. Someone keep my spot in the line warm for me!

[Alikan]

Ok, time for some cheering up!





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzYLTbQQEZQ

[Benirus]

XJ347 wrote...

Well I am hitting the sack. Someone keep my spot in the line warm for me!

Rest up trooper We got you're spot covered

[Bob3terd]

ReaverT wrote...

What the...? O_O

People check this out!!! I don't know what to think but, seems it's going pretty rough

http://gamingsquid.c...aign=WordSocial

... I know we should be holding the line but... I'm starting to think we should focuss on the main problem. I know the ending sucks and that denies most of our actiones and choices in the entire trilogy... but the game itself its incredible despite the ending. As I said I don't know, does the game deserves this?

Hitting their pockets is im afraid the best way to get them to notice our distaste for the endings otherwise like the PR chap said they will ignore us and hope we are fickle. If it affects them finacialy then they will take very serious notice of our concerns.

And remember this is a drop in profitablity, not them losing money. Bioware arnt going bankrupt anytime this century.

[MischaMika]

ReaverT wrote...

What the...? O_O

People check this out!!! I don't know what to think but, seems it's going pretty rough

http://gamingsquid.c...aign=WordSocial

... I know we should be holding the line but... I'm starting to think we should focuss on the main problem. I know the ending sucks and that denies most of our actiones and choices in the entire trilogy... but the game itself its incredible despite the ending. As I said I don't know, does the game deserves this?

Yeahhh.
And if a real ending is out they are going to sell it to a higher price, i believe.

[Mandemon]

chujwamdotego wrote...

xHezz90 wrote...

Benirus wrote...
25 members I kinda feel sorry for the guys, also note that some of the people in the group haven't even played the game. Their just there to defend Biowares "artistic expression"

Don't bother with them, they are making a big enough statement on their own lol!

There are 212 members......

Let it be even 200.000 members.

It doesn't make humble request of 60.000 or more members of ReME3 to ADD new endings any less right, does it?

I find it funny that it's not open group, you need to aplly for membership. What, do the yfear infiltration:O

*STG team ready*

[Benirus]

Bob3terd wrote...

Hitting their pockets is im afraid the best way to get them to notice our distaste for the endings otherwise like the PR chap said they will ignore us and hope we are fickle. If it affects them finacialy then they will take very serious notice of our concerns.

And remember this is a drop in profitablity, not them losing money. Bioware arnt going bankrupt anytime this century.

Also remember that for every copy of ME3 returned, Amazon can sell the game to a customer without giving money to Bioware/rEApers