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[VivaLaWhatsername]

Benirus wrote...

Apfelweinbrauer wrote...

I have no intention to leave either, though I may not be the most contributive member of this forum, due to my bad English...

Every voice counts, the fact that multiple nationalities are in this is a good thing, even though some of us got broken english.

Hold the line!

Hey who cares how good or bad your english is? we all know the words Hold the line 

[GizmoKodiak]

firstarioch wrote...

BBC just called me again! !!
Had 2nd long interview! !!!
The love our passion! !!
they will do story today! !!
Keep fingers crossed. And keep checking tech section of bbc website.
He also promised to email joanthan Ross for me and contact bioware for statement.

Well done!

You have inspired me to contact news outlets here in Australia as well. We need to spread the word! 

Holding the line. 

[beyondsolo]

Apfelweinbrauer wrote...
Just because this may be a common strategy to protect their sales does not mean I won't be offended by that kind of behaviour.

That is true. And I'm not trying to deny you your right to be outraged. I'm just trying to make sense of what is going on right now. Personally, I hate BioWare's PR policy. I can't stand how they hype things (DLC, announcements, community events) that turn out to be horrible. And I hate their policy of strict silence. But I do have to admire them for sticking to it so adamantly; at least in that regard they're being professional.

Apfelweinbrauer wrote...
I have no intention to leave either, though I may not be the most contributive member of this forum, due to my bad English...

Don't worry about your English. It's fine. Your opinion is what matters, and your voice. Hold the line.

[Goikiu]

Apfelweinbrauer wrote...
I have no intention to leave either, though I may not be the most contributive member of this forum, due to my bad English...

Your english sure it's better than mine  (and i write a lot here)

[Durham Dave]

Here's hoping the BBC lives up to its reputation. Normally quite good, but they can misunderstand some things from time to time. If the article goes up, they can have a comments section at the bottom some times, but not always. Keep an eye out for it.

[Darth Taurus]

Prudii Aden wrote...

firstarioch wrote...

BBC just called me again! !!
Had 2nd long interview! !!!
The love our passion! !!
they will do story today! !!
Keep fingers crossed. And keep checking tech section of bbc website.
He also promised to email joanthan Ross for me and contact bioware for statement.

It could be good news, I'm just wondering what slant they're going to put on it. I've always been a little cautious when it comes to the media - where do you think the stereotype of the gamer came from and was publicised?

Amazing! Excellent work 

[Benirus]

The GameStation Podcast is talking about the Mass Effect 3 ending

www.youtube.com/watch

Starts at about: 2:32:05

Thanks btw Jesse for forcing TB to talk about it

[Nharia1]

I like the idea of getting BBC on our side, or at least having them run an article on the whole situation, if it does go out, that would be a major victory for us, since a lot of people read BBC's articles. Oh I can't wait for later today!

[wicked_being]

Apfelweinbrauer wrote...
I have no intention to leave either, though I may not be the most contributive member of this forum, due to my bad English...

That's good to hear. A couple of days ago you were like "the line is broken! I'm done with this!" over that FTC guy. Stuff like that don't help our cause but so is negatively reacting to it. But welcome back I guess.

[Goikiu]

For those who've reported in now.

Bad News/Good News for the movement :

http://www.analoghyp...-mass-effect-3/
http://www.psu.com/A...-a014727-p0.php
http://gamingsquid.c...happy-me-3-fans

We're waiting for a BBC Tech Section Article (link to their tech section here) ->http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology/


Post it from time to time if news needed, keep the news flowing in soldiers.

[Apfelweinbrauer]

beyondsolo wrote...

That is true. And I'm not trying to deny you your right to be outraged. I'm just trying to make sense of what is going on right now. Personally, I hate BioWare's PR policy. I can't stand how they hype things (DLC, announcements, community events) that turn out to be horrible. And I hate their policy of strict silence. But I do have to admire them for sticking to it so adamantly; at least in that regard they're being professional.

Uhmm well...

Calling BioWare's PR professional? Hmm, that's a possibility to explain their behaviour, but in my book, what they have done so far is easily the most terrible piece of communication I had the displeasure to see in years.
Instead of helpful or at least understanding, they just make a stubborn, uncaring and arrogant impression. (At least that's the way I perceive them...)

So far, their PR work successfully managed to turn a solvable problem into Apocalypse Now...

P.S.

Thanks to all the guys who encouraged me to keep writing and holding the line, very kind of you!

[Deventh]

Just got up.Any news in the last 12 hours?

[Sevantha]

Goikiu wrote...

Sure, the movement itself will support the BBC article based on what they says.
We've gained something and lost something with Amazon/Origin ME3 refunding choise.
We need to hope for the BBC article for now, we'll see it soon enough.

We haven't lost anything, I don't get why anyone would think its bad news for us that Amazon grands a full refund for the game. It's quite the oposite in my opinion. Up until now bioware had most likely sold enough games to make more than up for the proctuction costs of the game. I bet they are very much in the plus here. So changing or adding to the ending for them is a question of how much more money can they gain and will they lose anything by not doing anything and just releasing DLC stuff that adds to the game BEFORE the mission to the cerberus base.

If players have now the chance to give the game they bought back and get a full refund this means the numbers will drop, less sold games means less money. It also means bad press if say 500000 (thats just a made up number ofc) games were given back.
What does that mean for bioware and EA? simple they are starting to lose some of the money they have already gotten (if the refund is from origin) or they won't be getting any more money of "new" sold games from amazon because they will have a stock of returned games.
No company likes to lose money they have already planned with, so this puts presure on them to fix the ending and make the fans happy so that those who already returned it will rebuy it again. I've spoke to players who have returned the game even writing in the letter/email they will rebuy the game as soon as bioware fixes the end.

Bioware and EA have already "lost" quite some money this year because of swtor. If you have followed that you will know they did not sell as much games as they hoped and they did not get the amount of subscribers they hoped for either.
They will not want to risk to lose even more money with Mass effect, because let's face it, the mass effect fan base is huge and if they wouldn't see the chance of making a lot of money on us, they wouldn't have released so much DLCs in the past.

It's up to them now to respond to this and fast before more and more players will simply return their game and not bother with this anymore.

[Goikiu]

Goikiu wrote...

For those who've reported in now.

Bad News/Good News for the movement :

http://www.analoghyp...-mass-effect-3/
http://www.psu.com/A...-a014727-p0.php
http://gamingsquid.c...happy-me-3-fans

We're waiting for a BBC Tech Section Article (link to their tech section here) ->http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology/


Post it from time to time if news needed, keep the news flowing in soldiers.

This.

[Atherus]

So now I can post in this Forum Great!
Backup from Germany!

Played ME since the beginning an had nightmares since the end of ME 3 T.T. Haven´t really played a Game since then ....

Many here have cancelled their TOR accounts for protest. You are not alone.

We will hold the Line too!

[Apfelweinbrauer]

wicked_being wrote...

That's good to hear. A couple of days ago you were like "the line is broken! I'm done with this!" over that FTC guy. Stuff like that don't help our cause but so is negatively reacting to it. But welcome back I guess.

Well thank you, back then, I honestly thought this FTC thingy would certainly end this movement via bad publicity, I am glad it didn't turn out to be that devastating in the end...

[Lil One]

Not sure if anyone posted this (NZ Herald) and this (iafrica.com).  "Same old story", but it is getting out there.

[Goikiu]

Sevantha wrote...

Goikiu wrote...

Sure, the movement itself will support the BBC article based on what they says.
We've gained something and lost something with Amazon/Origin ME3 refunding choise.
We need to hope for the BBC article for now, we'll see it soon enough.

We haven't lost anything, I don't get why anyone would think its bad news for us that Amazon grands a full refund for the game. It's quite the oposite in my opinion. Up until now bioware had most likely sold enough games to make more than up for the proctuction costs of the game. I bet they are very much in the plus here. So changing or adding to the ending for them is a question of how much more money can they gain and will they lose anything by not doing anything and just releasing DLC stuff that adds to the game BEFORE the mission to the cerberus base.

If players have now the chance to give the game they bought back and get a full refund this means the numbers will drop, less sold games means less money. It also means bad press if say 500000 (thats just a made up number ofc) games were given back.
What does that mean for bioware and EA? simple they are starting to lose some of the money they have already gotten (if the refund is from origin) or they won't be getting any more money of "new" sold games from amazon because they will have a stock of returned games.
No company likes to lose money they have already planned with, so this puts presure on them to fix the ending and make the fans happy so that those who already returned it will rebuy it again. I've spoke to players who have returned the game even writing in the letter/email they will rebuy the game as soon as bioware fixes the end.

Bioware and EA have already "lost" quite some money this year because of swtor. If you have followed that you will know they did not sell as much games as they hoped and they did not get the amount of subscribers they hoped for either.
They will not want to risk to lose even more money with Mass effect, because let's face it, the mass effect fan base is huge and if they wouldn't see the chance of making a lot of money on us, they wouldn't have released so much DLCs in the past.

It's up to them now to respond to this and fast before more and more players will simply return their game and not bother with this anymore.

(My English is so-so but i'll try to explain)
You know, refund something it isn't bad itself. However many can think that they will give you a refund if you haven't liked the end and they choose not to fix/change/add it.

For this it can be seen as a bad thing.

Good thing is that they are "listening" or at least "watching" over us, or they won't have give a full refund for ME3.

[honourshield]

SSV Portsmouth returning for refuelling and supplies.
Any developments in the last 12 hours?

[VyseN1]

I have to admit, I am very tempted to return my copy to Amazon.

[Hendrik.III]

I'm not so sure that refund action is bad press per se for the movement. It's a sign of discontent, and not an angry or uncivil one. That FTC thing doesn't really help how people view us, but that Amazon offer can be a sign of how serious this is.

I think they'll be surprised how few will actually trade it in at this point, because we do love the series - that's why we're doing this, after all.

Modifié par Hendrik.III, 20 mars 2012 - 11:33 .

[BigglesFlysAgain]

Hopefully we can get it into the bbc top ten news headlines thing, thats what most bored people read anyway, so when it comes out share it with friends ect.

[KLGChaos]

This is the year we landed on the moon... too bad we didn't find any Prothean ruins. Guess we'll have to wait until we get to Mars for that.

Modifié par KLGChaos, 20 mars 2012 - 11:31 .

[Sevantha]

Atherus wrote...

So now I can post in this Forum Great!
Backup from Germany!

Played ME since the beginning an had nightmares since the end of ME 3 T.T. Haven´t really played a Game since then ....

Many here have cancelled their TOR accounts for protest. You are not alone.

We will hold the Line too!

welcome to the fleet you need a banner

[Benirus]

Benirus wrote...

The GameStation Podcast is talking about the Mass Effect 3 ending

www.youtube.com/watch

Starts at about: 2:32:05

Thanks btw Jesse for forcing TB to talk about it

Absolutly worth listening too, this is sure to get us alot of reinforcements!