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[ld1449]

See, I wouldn't completely mind if your ONLY choice was to die (fine it does take away the choices and consecuences that was the ME3 selling point.) But the fact is that the sacrifice in this ending is just so goddamn pointless. Look at Halo Reach, claimed as one of the best endings for a Videogame even though your char. Always dies no matter what. But its accepted and aclaimed because your character died and it ultimately meant something. That's bitter-sweet.

The ending here is "Die Die Die with a side order of destroy galactic civilization as you know it"

So it is a pointless sacrifice

Modifié par ld1449, 20 mars 2012 - 01:40 .

[firstarioch]

Now with bbc behind me I can hit the times, evening standard. And daily telegraph.
Tonite more chats with Vin diesel publicist .need to pull that one.
Lets see....

[BCMakoto]

Iucounou wrote...

I liked how they did the balanced reporting thing and mentioned the "Keep ME3" facebook group, which now has 211 members....

Yes, balanced reporting is nice. If you have one group, you are more then allowed to also show the contrary group. But judging by our grow rate and the overall experience of sides...they will not even come close to our numbers. Currently it is 211 for them, 46.000 for us on facebook. I guess we are not the "Minority" here. I appreciate their opinion, it just seems that 91% of the community can not get anything positive about the ending.

What I think is really interesting is this:
Today, when we had some time between electric lessons I came to talk to my electric teacher. He is 33 and he played ME3. He also agrees on me that the Mass Effect endings were horribly. His reasons were mostly the same as we have, for example that the plot-holes are simply not even worth the time, that just one different recolored endings, no happy or decent endings.

"Finished second playthrough. Things were pleasantly different :)"I accept his overall opinion that the ending was nice, but to actually label "Change of color" as "pleasantly different" although we were promised 16 different endings...well...everyone his opinion I guess.

"If you don't like, okay, but don't go sending complaints off to the FTC because of it."Which actually tells me that this person has in no way informed himself about the RetakeMassEffect movement. It was 1(!) fan who did this, and the whole movement has nearly instantly spoken out against it. Do I take it that he actually blames all of us for doing this?

Thus said:
Of course we have to be so fair as to mention them so people who have a different point of view can join them. But then, please, be so polite and don't mention the FTC thing. It was one person...seriously...It is like saying "One electrician was cra**y, the others are the same.". This is what bugs me the most. Is it to much to ask to finally drop this FTC?

[LTBK]

Good, good. It seems that the word keeps spreading. Marauder Shields might be smiling right now.

[VivaLaWhatsername]

More words from my best friend (non gamer) she sounds like us:

"I'm not even a gamer, but I think in a way that if I were a gamer how would I feel I guess. I mean reading that it seems that the games were all about making the choices would give you a certain ending, and they've marketed the game using that and then people are getting mad that that's not the case with the last one, that what was the point in it. They should have had an ending where you made a certain choice that yes your character would end up sacraficing himself but with other choices there should have been other ways to end it."

[wicked_being]

Press incoming! Here's the BBC article:

http://www.bbc.co.uk...nology-17444719

I like it. It's very unbiased as it presented all the different sides to the story.

HOLD THE LINE!

[rethas]

I've been a loyal Bioware customer since they were founded.

The debacle with the ending just reeks of someone trying to be too clever, either that or pure laziness and negligence.

After seeing the Facebook comment that was recanted it really seems this was their plan all along.

In their office there must have been people climbing the walls to try and get this ending changed.. as there have to be people that love the product, universe and series as much as the fans do.

I will now seriously have to consider all purchases created by Bioware, especially at full price, or at all. I highly doubt EA had much to do with this, this is how the writer wanted "his artistic vision" to play out.

The above is not a hollow statement as I am sure it is not for many others that have posted similar messages.

Bioware you've lost a fan.

/end protest from me.

Modifié par rethas, 20 mars 2012 - 01:43 .

[ElMuchu]

chujwamdotego wrote...

Denethar wrote...

BBC, not bad at all.

So....who wish they could hear what is said in the Bioware office today?

I get the feeling there is a dead silence...

On my side, I think that there is a lot of discussion between employees on the decision that should be taken by their management...

[Jack Shephardi]

Got to give my support for this cause too. Damn, I consider myself more of a casual gamer than "hardcore" and almost never use games forum but this ending was too much for even me. And that certainly shows when you look amount of posts and views of this matter.

Bioware has one hell of a problem on their hands.

So hold the line fans casual or hc! I know I do.

[DJBare]

firstarioch wrote...
Now with bbc behind me I can hit the times, evening standard. And daily telegraph.
Tonite more chats with Vin diesel publicist .need to pull that one.
Lets see....

You are definitely nominated for a medal even if you don't pull off the rest of your plan, you are quite possibly one of our biggest assets at this point, thank you.

[DifferentD17]

So happy about the BBC, Keep it up guys another step in the right direction!

[xAmilli0n]

I'm impressed the BBC picked this up. Definitely a good sign.

Also, this has to officially be the longest thread ever on BSN. Page 2000, is right around the corner!

[Bizantura]

firstarioch, thanks.
Still holding the line.

[DJBare]

xAmilli0n wrote...

I'm impressed the BBC picked this up. Definitely a good sign.

Also, this has to officially be the longest thread ever on BSN. Page 2000, is right around the corner!

A long way to go to beat the record, 5005 for a Tali thread, but 2000 is still a damn good number.

[Xyalon]

Iucounou wrote...

Some information and humour to help people cope. If you can think of more, post them and I'll include them
in this list and re-post every once in a while.

*snip *

Can you put the following up there please


Japanese Anime version ending.

[Aeyl]

rethas wrote...

I've been a loyal Bioware customer since they were founded.

The debacle with the ending just reeks of someone trying to be too clever, either that or pure laziness and negligence.

After seeing the Facebook comment that was recanted it really seems this was their plan all along.

In their office there must have been people climbing the walls to try and get this ending changed.. as there have to be people that love the product, universe and series as much as the fans do.

I will now seriously have to consider all purchases created by Bioware, especially at full price, or at all. I highly doubt EA had much to do with this, this is how the writer wanted "his artistic vision" to play out.

The above is not a hollow statement as I am sure it is not for many others that have posted similar messages.

Bioware you've lost a fan.

/end protest from me.

A Facebook comment? Huh?

Erm, could anyone tell me what I missed in this regard?

And yes, I still find it hard to believe that anyone in Bioware seriously thought the ending was a good thing to just leave as is.

[TobiTobsen]

Good afternoon!

No news I suppose?

[Welsh Inferno]

halloween20 wrote...

Lexica wrote...

Im glad to see the bbc pick up this story.

and they report it on a neutral base.
it counts our work .

Wait what? Is there a link to this?

[DJBare]

Find below some important links you may want to follow.

BBC news technology section
Retake Mass Effect - Child's Play ***Please Donate***
Mass Effect 3 debacle - Pre-release developer quotes
Poll About The Ending
'Official' Poll For Mass Effect 3 Ending DLC
[POLL] What exactly would you change with the ending?
EA/Bioware in Full PR Damage Control Mode ***Regularly UPDATED***
Retake Mass Effect Banner Templates
Mission Statement Thread
Retake Mass Effect Group on BSN ***Please Join***
Mass Effect 3 Resource Site with collection of statements and reports
Retake Mass Effect 3 Statistics
Retake Mass Effect on Facebook
Retake Mass Effect on Youtube
Retake Mass Effect 3 Endings - Extranet Site - Resource Collector


Retake Mass Effect on Twitter
@RetakeME3

Keep it civil... and hold the line!

Modifié par DJBare, 20 mars 2012 - 01:49 .

[Phoenix NL]

I would love to be a fly on the wall at the Bioware offices. I swear that while they realized that not everyone would like the ending I don't think anyone was ever expecting this! We will prevail folks!

[Gi-Joe-Ge]

Hello Everyone, reporting in.

Good to see that DJBare had been circulating the link list for newcomers during my absence.

Also good to see the BBC has picked-up our cause. Brilliant

[chujwamdotego]

rethas wrote...

/end protest from me.

Hope not.

It may look like apathy or abandonment, but even if not on this forum keep up the protest. It's imoprtant.

[Goikiu]

TobiTobsen wrote...

Good afternoon!

No news I suppose?

Only the BBC Article: http://www.bbc.co.uk...nology-17444719

[Iucounou]

ld1449 wrote...

See, I wouldn't completely mind if your ONLY choice was to die (fine it does take away the choices and consecuences that was the ME3 selling point.) But the fact is that the sacrifice in this ending is just so goddamn pointless. Look at Halo Reach, claimed as one of the best endings for a Videogame even though your char. Always dies no matter what. But its accepted and aclaimed because your character died and it ultimately meant something. That's bitter-sweet.

The ending here is "Die Die Die with a side order of destroy galactic civilization as you know it"

So it is a pointless sacrifice

You missed out the "Listen to annoying brat spout atrocious circular logic" part.

The gaming equivalent of "Which came first, the chicken or the egg?"

[Nilofeliu]

From BBC

""If this was a Hollywood film, and they had a test audience, they would have never released the ending like that. It would have just not happened"

So true. I wonder how the critics would react if this was the ending of a movie. I will bet not many people would watch in the big screen, or at all..


/Salute