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[BellPeppers&Beef023]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

ithurtz wrote...

albertalad wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

It's kinda weird that they went with a mage/templar thing. Synthetics vs Organics.Seriously Bioware. Come on now. It's getting silly.

Dead on with your analysis - this ending would be downright silly at best and sadastic at worst. I was replaying ME2 to get at best a near perfect ending with pits but now I've lost interest - totally. That's the real issue BW has on its hands. I'll remember YOU BW - never good or nostalgic just bitter at your claim BW to let me have choices. YOU (BW) failed me when it really counted most. And my wallet will NEVER open for you again. That you can take to the bank!.

I just bought ME1 on steam last week in anticipation of my CE order next tuesday. And to think i was all "Wow! A space epic trilogy 5 years in the making!"

Right now, i dun even know what to do with my ME 1 anymore...

Play it and love it, then buy ME2 and do the same.

Regardless of what happens, those two were amazing games.

Believe it or not, even at this point, I still think that ME3 would be a blast to play thru. But once the ending starts rolling....bah:pinched:

[Big I]

Patriota125 wrote...
What an brilliant ending. What did you expect if you were fighting against some ancient menace that has been around for more than 37 millions of years and erradicate the entire galatic civilization or rather, reunite civilization to make them into reapers?

You mean like how Shepard stopped Sovereign and a geth invasion? Or how Shepard took on Harbinger and the Collectors?

[Rdubs]

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

In Dragon Age's case it was four months after sales dropped that an EA rep came out and said, "We dun goofed." in PR speak.

Melfina I assume you're talking about DA2?

The first indication we will have that sales aren't meeting their hopes, which is a pattern I noticed on DA2, is how rapidly they start offering extra paid-for content for free.  First they'll throw in From Ashes, then when that doesn't work some extra DLC crap, then what that doesn't work they'll throw in other games (maybe ME, ME2, or even DA/DA2 LOL), then when that doesn't work they'll be forced to cut the price.  The thing to watch is how fast the feebee's start coming.  No doubt with this amount of hubris they'll wait a few months before admitting that something isn't going according to projections so don't expect it right away, but when it happens it's not going to be pretty.

They were bragging a lot about how pre-orders are ahead of ME2 pre-orders, but pre-orders are just pent up demand from loyal fans.  You know what other product had a huge amount of pre-orders the manufacturer confused with a steady sales demand?  The Smart car; once the pre-orders had all been shipped the sales dried up.  Yes I know a game isn't a car but the point is pre-orders aren't always reflective of how the majority of your sales will do.

[MelfinaofOutlawStar]

txgoldrush wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

jreezy wrote...

GodWood wrote...

There are multiple endings are many, many variables that determine how successful the galaxy is against the Reapers. That, is, choice. Just because Shepard can't live "happily ever after" that doesn't mean the series is now void of choice.

He's not a ****ing god.

This.

There are several variables yes. Do you want a blue, red, or green ending?

How about try rushing the finale and getting the crap kicked out of you where not only you die, but SO DOES YOUR CREW.

Nevermind the fact that choices efffect the endgame was well.

Look at TW2's ending...your choices affect the ENDGAME more than the ENDING. There is also an ENGAME in ME3.

Even having consquences shown from your actions make this game have FAR better choice and consquence than any Bioware game, even DAO, who uses lazy ending cards.

Bioware is far from the WRPG Gods of chocie and consquence.

TW2? As in Two Worlds? Heck, I didn't even get that far. Lost interest half-way through the first one. Mayhaps I try it again.

[GodWood]

yoshibb wrote...
Seems more to me that Bioware has been giving us the cake and letting us eat for years and now they are suddenly pulling it away. Kind of gonna ****** people off.

That's why I think the whole thing is hilarious.

If I'd known this is what Bioware was going for I'd have cared a hell of a lot less about those P/R debates.

[Johnnycide]

ithurtz wrote...

albertalad wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

It's kinda weird that they went with a mage/templar thing. Synthetics vs Organics.Seriously Bioware. Come on now. It's getting silly.

Dead on with your analysis - this ending would be downright silly at best and sadastic at worst. I was replaying ME2 to get at best a near perfect ending with pits but now I've lost interest - totally. That's the real issue BW has on its hands. I'll remember YOU BW - never good or nostalgic just bitter at your claim BW to let me have choices. YOU (BW) failed me when it really counted most. And my wallet will NEVER open for you again. That you can take to the bank!.

I just bought ME1 on steam last week in anticipation of my CE order next tuesday. And to think i was all "Wow! A space epic trilogy 5 years in the making!"

Right now, i dun even know what to do with my ME 1 anymore...

Play 1 and 2, when 3 rolls around, do the same thing everyone else did with the bastard child that Star Wars Episode 1 was.

[Kileyan]

xtorma wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

ithurtz wrote...

albertalad wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

It's kinda weird that they went with a mage/templar thing. Synthetics vs Organics.Seriously Bioware. Come on now. It's getting silly.

Dead on with your analysis - this ending would be downright silly at best and sadastic at worst. I was replaying ME2 to get at best a near perfect ending with pits but now I've lost interest - totally. That's the real issue BW has on its hands. I'll remember YOU BW - never good or nostalgic just bitter at your claim BW to let me have choices. YOU (BW) failed me when it really counted most. And my wallet will NEVER open for you again. That you can take to the bank!.

I just bought ME1 on steam last week in anticipation of my CE order next tuesday. And to think i was all "Wow! A space epic trilogy 5 years in the making!"

Right now, i dun even know what to do with my ME 1 anymore...

Play it and love it, then buy ME2 and do the same.

Regardless of what happens, those two were amazing games.

me2 was not amazing...it was.....ok

Oh c'mon the human reaper slurpy terminator looking marrionette was awesome!

Ok nevermind, the whole game was loyalty missions.

[xtorma]

GodWood wrote...

Tietj wrote...

GodWood wrote...

recentio wrote...
We're saying it becasue that's the only choice many of us actually care about -- Shepard & crew alive together in just one ending. JUST ONE!

Well I guess it's canon that Shepard isn't so selfish that he'd put his needs above the rest of of the galaxy's.

Personally I'd accept such an ending (Shepard lives with crew) if it meant screwing over the galaxy and letting trillions die. Keeps with the theme Bioware apparently wants to have.

Really, buddy, you can't think of ONE scenario in which Shepard getting stranded WITH his crew--which is all a lot of people are asking for--isn't a selfish act?

Well that's not what I said.

I can think of billions of silly scenarios. Some of which would probably cater to you. The thing is based on the context of "the final choice" they all require self sacrifice from Shepard. The only way to avoid that is to be selfish.

Clearly Bioware is [suddenly] trying to tell you you can't always play hero and you can't have you're cake and eat it too.

you can think of billions of scenarios? you must have a brain the size of argentina

[Juniper Mucius]

DragonRageGT wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

albertalad wrote...

Lopez23 wrote...

albertalad wrote...

Yeah, some one played the game somewhere and some "claim" they saw the vids. BS! If you actually saw the vids YOU would have had them posted on Utube. No vids YOU are full of crap! And don't give me some one - yet no one posting here - somehow has all the answers - BS! Next, leaked script - yeah right - BW lost this scrip and followed it to the letter knowing full well it was on the internet. Yeah, right - have I got one for YOU. BS!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1vlwTC3lDM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbKgQvx05ag
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NbQJ230syQ&feature=channel

Come on man, I've seen aliens of every sort on uTube claimed as real. Images of Jesus on everything from toast to clouds on UTube. And everything else in between - I don't use UTube as anything but humorous.

Hahahahaha....

Seriously, do you know how you sound to others? Denying ridiculous amounts of video evidence?

What, someone threw this together in an afternoon?

UA, I agree that Youtube can also be used for serious videos. Look at all the massacre vids by tirany around the planet. Sometimes YT is the only way to let the truth out there.

But you've been in this thread for the whole day. I ate, I slept, I showered, I went out, I came back... and you're still with the same broken record about these videos being "evidence"? The only evidence they show is that the game has binks on it.

When I say upload a video or it didn't happen, I mean full captured playthrough games:

Like this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqNkp83eI3c

or this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IyUKR2au84

or this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8i4wSIooFiM

Uploading extracted bink videos really proves nothing. It is no evidence. And reloading before the end and changing only the final decision is like playing TW2 only on Roche's path and saying that all endings lead to Iorveth dismissal.

Wait...you can solo MP?

[BellPeppers&Beef023]

Johnnycide wrote...

ithurtz wrote...

albertalad wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

It's kinda weird that they went with a mage/templar thing. Synthetics vs Organics.Seriously Bioware. Come on now. It's getting silly.

Dead on with your analysis - this ending would be downright silly at best and sadastic at worst. I was replaying ME2 to get at best a near perfect ending with pits but now I've lost interest - totally. That's the real issue BW has on its hands. I'll remember YOU BW - never good or nostalgic just bitter at your claim BW to let me have choices. YOU (BW) failed me when it really counted most. And my wallet will NEVER open for you again. That you can take to the bank!.

I just bought ME1 on steam last week in anticipation of my CE order next tuesday. And to think i was all "Wow! A space epic trilogy 5 years in the making!"

Right now, i dun even know what to do with my ME 1 anymore...

Play 1 and 2, when 3 rolls around, do the same thing everyone else did with the bastard child that Star Wars Episode 1 was.

Jar Jar Binks cameo?

[Tietj]

GodWood wrote...

yoshibb wrote...
Seems more to me that Bioware has been giving us the cake and letting us eat for years and now they are suddenly pulling it away. Kind of gonna ****** people off.

That's why I think the whole thing is hilarious.

If I'd known this is what Bioware was going for I'd have cared a hell of a lot less about those P/R debates.

Yeah, it's always hilarious when people are disappointed.  Especially when you're better than those people.

[albertalad]

ithurtz wrote...

albertalad wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

It's kinda weird that they went with a mage/templar thing. Synthetics vs Organics.Seriously Bioware. Come on now. It's getting silly.

Dead on with your analysis - this ending would be downright silly at best and sadastic at worst. I was replaying ME2 to get at best a near perfect ending with pits but now I've lost interest - totally. That's the real issue BW has on its hands. I'll remember YOU BW - never good or nostalgic just bitter at your claim BW to let me have choices. YOU (BW) failed me when it really counted most. And my wallet will NEVER open for you again. That you can take to the bank!.

I just bought ME1 on steam last week in anticipation of my CE order next tuesday. And to think i was all "Wow! A space epic trilogy 5 years in the making!"

Right now, i dun even know what to do with my ME 1 anymore...

I really understand your issue - that is the real cost that BW will pay for this idiocy. Huge drop off in new buyers and none from those of us who have been used and thrown away like used toilet paper!

[Rdubs]

xtorma wrote...

Rdubs wrote...

What really sucks for me is my wife bought me the CE as a Christmas present. Once I found out about all this, and the "issue" with the Prothean DLC, it made me so turned off that I wanted to cancel my CE pre-order and just pick up a normal copy whereby I would just watch the Prothean DLC material on Youtube. Just to increase the data count of people canceling pre-orders by 1. But if I did that my wife would take it as me returning her gift to me which she thought I'd love, which would kill her.

The only thing I can do is keep it and hold out hope that the guy who said there is a happy ending, no one has just gotten it yet (from a few pages back), is right.

Thanks great people who made all this happen.

same thing here , i told her to cancel it and spend the money on a new outfit. she wasn't dissapointed at all

THAT IS A BRILLIANT IDEA.  THANK YOU XTORMA.  I mean that seriously, I'm going to go pitch it to her.

[Yakko77]

Johnnycide wrote...

Rdubs wrote...

What really sucks for me is my wife bought me the CE as a Christmas present. Once I found out about all this, and the "issue" with the Prothean DLC, it made me so turned off that I wanted to cancel my CE pre-order and just pick up a normal copy whereby I would just watch the Prothean DLC material on Youtube. Just to increase the data count of people canceling pre-orders by 1. But if I did that my wife would take it as me returning her gift to me which she thought I'd love, which would kill her.

The only thing I can do is keep it and hold out hope that the guy who said there is a happy ending, no one has just gotten it yet (from a few pages back), is right.

Thanks great people who made all this happen.

There'll be a happy ending, a couple months from now, in the form of a DLC.

People are already mad enough at the endings now but if we have to pay more for a better ending still is just....

I'm already paying for a CE so I hope this "better ending DLC" is freakin' free...

Otherwise, as Sten would say,

No.



I'll watch the "better" ending for free on YT.

[MelfinaofOutlawStar]

Rdubs wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

In Dragon Age's case it was four months after sales dropped that an EA rep came out and said, "We dun goofed." in PR speak.

Melfina I assume you're talking about DA2?

The first indication we will have that sales aren't meeting their hopes, which is a pattern I noticed on DA2, is how rapidly they start offering extra paid-for content for free.  First they'll throw in From Ashes, then when that doesn't work some extra DLC crap, then what that doesn't work they'll throw in other games (maybe ME, ME2, or even DA/DA2 LOL), then when that doesn't work they'll be forced to cut the price.  The thing to watch is how fast the feebee's start coming.  No doubt with this amount of hubris they'll wait a few months before admitting that something isn't going according to projections so don't expect it right away, but when it happens it's not going to be pretty.

They were bragging a lot about how pre-orders are ahead of ME2 pre-orders, but pre-orders are just pent up demand from loyal fans.  You know what other product had a huge amount of pre-orders the manufacturer confused with a steady sales demand?  The Smart car; once the pre-orders had all been shipped the sales dried up.  Yes I know a game isn't a car but the point is pre-orders aren't always reflective of how the majority of your sales will do.

Yeah, I mean, hell they sold pre-orders but that was based partially on the success of Origins. When sales dropped off faster than a heard of lemmings over a cliff following the actual release of the game they realized not all ways well with their creative decisions. Now they have to work that much harder for DA3. They have to win back those they lost, they cannot depend on pre-orders anymore. By attempting to broaden their fanbase they alienated a lot of what they had already built. It's fine, as someone said, to want to encourage everyone to enjoy gaming and to involve them in it. Thing is you don't want to do it with one game. In the end you try too much to be a Jack of All Trades, master of none.

[MelfinaofOutlawStar]

Yakko77 wrote...

Johnnycide wrote...

Rdubs wrote...

What really sucks for me is my wife bought me the CE as a Christmas present. Once I found out about all this, and the "issue" with the Prothean DLC, it made me so turned off that I wanted to cancel my CE pre-order and just pick up a normal copy whereby I would just watch the Prothean DLC material on Youtube. Just to increase the data count of people canceling pre-orders by 1. But if I did that my wife would take it as me returning her gift to me which she thought I'd love, which would kill her.

The only thing I can do is keep it and hold out hope that the guy who said there is a happy ending, no one has just gotten it yet (from a few pages back), is right.

Thanks great people who made all this happen.

There'll be a happy ending, a couple months from now, in the form of a DLC.

People are already mad enough at the endings now but if we have to pay more for a better ending still is just....

I'm already paying for a CE so I hope this "better ending DLC" is freakin' free...

Otherwise, as Sten would say,

No.



I'll watch the "better" ending for free on YT.

This. No way I would pay for something that should already be included in a $60 game.

[recentio]

albertalad wrote...

ithurtz wrote...

albertalad wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

It's kinda weird that they went with a mage/templar thing. Synthetics vs Organics.Seriously Bioware. Come on now. It's getting silly.

Dead on with your analysis - this ending would be downright silly at best and sadastic at worst. I was replaying ME2 to get at best a near perfect ending with pits but now I've lost interest - totally. That's the real issue BW has on its hands. I'll remember YOU BW - never good or nostalgic just bitter at your claim BW to let me have choices. YOU (BW) failed me when it really counted most. And my wallet will NEVER open for you again. That you can take to the bank!.

I just bought ME1 on steam last week in anticipation of my CE order next tuesday. And to think i was all "Wow! A space epic trilogy 5 years in the making!"

Right now, i dun even know what to do with my ME 1 anymore...

I really understand your issue - that is the real cost that BW will pay for this idiocy. Huge drop off in new buyers and none from those of us who have been used and thrown away like used toilet paper!

I had two close gamer friends that I was going to push to pick up the game so we could all enjoy it together and team up in MP. Now I will warn them off instead. I was forever grateful to the guy who warned me about DA2...my chance to return the favor.

[dw99027]

While the endings will effect people differently (I personally like that ME1's portrayal of the Reapers as a nigh unbeatable force is prove accurate ), one has to consider that the writers have to perfectly balance the ending to accommodate both closure for Shepard and the starting ground for a new story set in the future. This cannot possibly happen with extremely varying finales. Quoting myself from another thread:

The relays being gone sets an interesting ground for a game/trilogy set far into the future, where civilisations establish new ways to travel vast distances in space. At this point Shepard is a mythical figure or simply forgotten, the existence of past relays and/or alien species is also a myth, and the different races will have to re-aqcuaint themselves. This will also allow the developers to use imported saved data from ME3 but nothing too major so as to hold their creativity back.

Humans meet Turians for seemingly the first time? Races creating independent AIs? Salvaging buried Reaper tech to incorporate? A species trying to upload the whole of itself into an immortal machine? You as the player know how these things ended in the past, yet in-game characters can only speculate, much like we do in real life today. This is great setting for the future of the IP, but it requires a very specific ME ending so that the universe can be re-invented.

[DCYNIGR8]

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

DCYNIGR8 wrote...

Is it clear where the whole "stranded Normandy" situation takes place? Is it before Shepard returns to Earth for the final battle?

As explained by a player who has beaten it... MASSIVE SPOILERS

*snip*

Hrm, skimmed parts of the Prima guide for the game today and whilst they don't go into anything post "The Decision", they do point out the required 'readiness' points for each choice.

As much as I'd like to believe there is at least one ending where Shepard and the crew/squad can stay together, as I saw nothing about repercussions for the epilogue in the guide, I'm inclined to believe that the Normandy ends up stranded regardless..

Modifié par DCYNIGR8, 01 mars 2012 - 07:24 .

[albertalad]

Heck the easiest hard choice is blowing the earth relay like ME2 killing Reapers and earth. Or using a massive meteor of the size that wiped out the dinosaurs. That way the rest of the relays are all intact and the humans and aliens can live a normal life with human eventually repopulating earth in the future. Simple. And very effective! No idiotic contrived ending like BW forced on us all.

[Nyaore]

Yakko77 wrote...

Johnnycide wrote...

Rdubs wrote...

What really sucks for me is my wife bought me the CE as a Christmas present. Once I found out about all this, and the "issue" with the Prothean DLC, it made me so turned off that I wanted to cancel my CE pre-order and just pick up a normal copy whereby I would just watch the Prothean DLC material on Youtube. Just to increase the data count of people canceling pre-orders by 1. But if I did that my wife would take it as me returning her gift to me which she thought I'd love, which would kill her.

The only thing I can do is keep it and hold out hope that the guy who said there is a happy ending, no one has just gotten it yet (from a few pages back), is right.

Thanks great people who made all this happen.

There'll be a happy ending, a couple months from now, in the form of a DLC.

People are already mad enough at the endings now but if we have to pay more for a better ending still is just....

I'm already paying for a CE so I hope this "better ending DLC" is freakin' free...

Otherwise, as Sten would say,

No.



I'll watch the "better" ending for free on YT.

Agreed, so hard. If they ever do come out with a 'better' ending it had better be free for everyone, otherwise I'm just going to do the same as you and watch it for free and form my own headcanon surrounding it. I can also guarantee that if the vast majority of the people who play the game get this pissed about the endings, assuming we aren't just the vocal minority, trying to make people PAY for a good ending would only further the rift they've created.

[xtorma]

Rdubs wrote...

xtorma wrote...

Rdubs wrote...

What really sucks for me is my wife bought me the CE as a Christmas present. Once I found out about all this, and the "issue" with the Prothean DLC, it made me so turned off that I wanted to cancel my CE pre-order and just pick up a normal copy whereby I would just watch the Prothean DLC material on Youtube. Just to increase the data count of people canceling pre-orders by 1. But if I did that my wife would take it as me returning her gift to me which she thought I'd love, which would kill her.

The only thing I can do is keep it and hold out hope that the guy who said there is a happy ending, no one has just gotten it yet (from a few pages back), is right.

Thanks great people who made all this happen.

same thing here , i told her to cancel it and spend the money on a new outfit. she wasn't dissapointed at all

THAT IS A BRILLIANT IDEA.  THANK YOU XTORMA.  I mean that seriously, I'm going to go pitch it to her.

there was a downside though....she got a new outfit, but she had to have shoes and a bag to match , it ended up costing me more....but i love her , so it's all good.

[Crovax_PSO]

dw99027 wrote...

While the endings will effect people differently (I personally like that ME1's portrayal of the Reapers as a nigh unbeatable force is prove accurate ), one has to consider that the writers have to perfectly balance the ending to accommodate both closure for Shepard and the starting ground for a new story set in the future. This cannot possibly happen with extremely varying finales. Quoting myself from another thread:

The relays being gone sets an interesting ground for a game/trilogy set far into the future, where civilisations establish new ways to travel vast distances in space. At this point Shepard is a mythical figure or simply forgotten, the existence of past relays and/or alien species is also a myth, and the different races will have to re-aqcuaint themselves. This will also allow the developers to use imported saved data from ME3 but nothing too major so as to hold their creativity back.

Humans meet Turians for seemingly the first time? Races creating independent AIs? Salvaging buried Reaper tech to incorporate? A species trying to upload the whole of itself into an immortal machine? You as the player know how these things ended in the past, yet in-game characters can only speculate, much like we do in real life today. This is great setting for the future of the IP, but it requires a very specific ME ending so that the universe can be re-invented.

So they throw the whole trilogy under the bus for the sake of the next game in the franchise, and that's supposed to be okay?

[Johnnycide]

Nyaore wrote...

Yakko77 wrote...

Johnnycide wrote...

Rdubs wrote...

What really sucks for me is my wife bought me the CE as a Christmas present. Once I found out about all this, and the "issue" with the Prothean DLC, it made me so turned off that I wanted to cancel my CE pre-order and just pick up a normal copy whereby I would just watch the Prothean DLC material on Youtube. Just to increase the data count of people canceling pre-orders by 1. But if I did that my wife would take it as me returning her gift to me which she thought I'd love, which would kill her.

The only thing I can do is keep it and hold out hope that the guy who said there is a happy ending, no one has just gotten it yet (from a few pages back), is right.

Thanks great people who made all this happen.

There'll be a happy ending, a couple months from now, in the form of a DLC.

People are already mad enough at the endings now but if we have to pay more for a better ending still is just....

I'm already paying for a CE so I hope this "better ending DLC" is freakin' free...

Otherwise, as Sten would say,

No.



I'll watch the "better" ending for free on YT.

Agreed, so hard. If they ever do come out with a 'better' ending it had better be free for everyone, otherwise I'm just going to do the same as you and watch it for free and form my own headcanon surrounding it. I can also guarantee that if the vast majority of the people who play the game get this pissed about the endings, assuming we aren't just the vocal minority, trying to make people PAY for a good ending would only further the rift they've created.

But, but, guys it was developed independently of the original game!

[shimpt]

Crovax_PSO wrote...

dw99027 wrote...

While the endings will effect people differently (I personally like that ME1's portrayal of the Reapers as a nigh unbeatable force is prove accurate ), one has to consider that the writers have to perfectly balance the ending to accommodate both closure for Shepard and the starting ground for a new story set in the future. This cannot possibly happen with extremely varying finales. Quoting myself from another thread:

The relays being gone sets an interesting ground for a game/trilogy set far into the future, where civilisations establish new ways to travel vast distances in space. At this point Shepard is a mythical figure or simply forgotten, the existence of past relays and/or alien species is also a myth, and the different races will have to re-aqcuaint themselves. This will also allow the developers to use imported saved data from ME3 but nothing too major so as to hold their creativity back.

Humans meet Turians for seemingly the first time? Races creating independent AIs? Salvaging buried Reaper tech to incorporate? A species trying to upload the whole of itself into an immortal machine? You as the player know how these things ended in the past, yet in-game characters can only speculate, much like we do in real life today. This is great setting for the future of the IP, but it requires a very specific ME ending so that the universe can be re-invented.

So they throw the whole trilogy under the bus for the sake of the next game in the franchise, and that's supposed to be okay?

GOD I LOVE CASH GRABS

Modifié par shimpt, 01 mars 2012 - 07:26 .