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[yoshibb]

As I said before, it is not that hard to fix this like it would be to fix a giant mess like DA2. It's a simple ending. One more cutscene. Modders with the tools could do it easily.

[xtorma]

GodWood wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...
200 pages bioware has to listen now.. right? ....right? D:

A measily 200 page thread on their foums complaining about the ending before it's released but after it has gone gold is not going to change a thing.

200 pages in 1 day , now extrapolate to the release date

[Tietj]

GodWood wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...
200 pages bioware has to listen now.. right? ....right? D:

A measily 200 page thread on their foums complaining about the ending before it's released but after it has gone gold is not going to change a thing.

This is true, except for the misspelling of "measly."  Actually, as much as I'm disappointed in the fate of the Normandy, the rest of the ending actually sounds to me like it could be pretty good.  I'll just have to manipulate things so that my favorite characters (who thankfully don't include Liara or Vega) aren't stranded with the rest of the crew. 

[MelfinaofOutlawStar]

shimpt wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

200 pages bioware has to listen now.. right? ....right? D:

BW listens to there fans... sometimes but this is driven by EA and all EA gives a s*** about is Money

My only hope for games as a creative medium are Live/PSN/Steam and their love affair with indie titles.

[DifferentD17]

shimpt wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

200 pages bioware has to listen now.. right? ....right? D:

BW listens to there fans... sometimes but this is driven by EA and all EA gives a s*** about is Money

I guess we all have to realize Bioware is Ea and EA is Bioware. They took the merge ending appearently.

[Bigdoser]

yoshibb wrote...

As I said before, it is not that hard to fix this like it would be to fix a giant mess like DA2. It's a simple ending. One more cutscene. Modders with the tools could do it easily.

There is a modding group up already thats planning to change the ending. 

[kingsims]

There are a lot of talented artists who will probably not like the ending and ending splicing up their own epilogue.

Here is an awesome Flux video created with Adobe after effects, Few mods etc
www.youtube.com/watch

[BellPeppers&Beef023]

Johnnycide wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Nyaore wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

200 pages bioware has to listen now.. right? ....right? D:

Took them several months, dramatic loss of sales, and a virtual firestorm of topics before they admitted they might have made mistakes with DA2. Just one topic, however prolific, isn't going to change much at the moment. Besides, even if they are listening, it's a little too late for them to come up with a good ending in less than six days.

I'm sure it took them less than 6 to come up with the current ones.

I'd say 6 minutes.
>Open Deus Ex Script
>Copy
>Paste
>add in stranded Normandy on barren wasteland for sh**s and giggles

There u go.

[albertalad]

Here in Alberta, Canada, the collector's edition cost me $89 and change. Now add to that amount of the paying add ons BW wants me to buy just to finish in the exact same manner? Not in this lifetime. $89 dollars and our dollar is one dollar better that the US dollar and we still have to pay this amount - for what BW? I can use my $89 bucks on my Harley and get real satisfaction instead! BTW, you don't get 199 pages if fans are happy! You think BW gives a crap about us? Think again folks! There IS a lot of truth in the leaks and they add up quickly. Has BW said anything? NO! It really, really simple to say THE leaks are false! They don't have to give anything more. That alone would make my day! And I'd even pay the game with energy - now I'll play just to get to that ugly end and that's the end of BW for me!

[GodWood]

xtorma wrote...

GodWood wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...
200 pages bioware has to listen now.. right? ....right? D:

A measily 200 page thread on their foums complaining about the ending before it's released but after it has gone gold is not going to change a thing.

200 pages in 1 day , now extrapolate to the release date

Paragon Vs Renegade threads could get to 200+ pages in a day, as could "Armour for females" threads.

Those were around when Bioware could change the direction of the franchise to accomodate these concerns and yet they still didn't.

Trust me, atm, this is nothing.

[DifferentD17]

Johnnycide wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Nyaore wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

200 pages bioware has to listen now.. right? ....right? D:

Took them several months, dramatic loss of sales, and a virtual firestorm of topics before they admitted they might have made mistakes with DA2. Just one topic, however prolific, isn't going to change much at the moment. Besides, even if they are listening, it's a little too late for them to come up with a good ending in less than six days.

I'm sure it took them less than 6 to come up with the current ones.

I'd say 6 minutes.
>Open Deus Ex Script
>Copy
>Paste

LOL simple!

[BigGuy28]

As I said I'm going to give it a chance but if these endings really are all we get I just may have to reinstall Icewind Dale 2 and Baldurs Gate 2 to remember the Bioware I loved that sadly died a horrible death sometime after Mass Effect 2 was released.

[yoshibb]

Bigdoser wrote...

yoshibb wrote...

As I said before, it is not that hard to fix this like it would be to fix a giant mess like DA2. It's a simple ending. One more cutscene. Modders with the tools could do it easily.

There is a modding group up already thats planning to change the ending. 

Thank God, I will be first in line for that. I'll figure out someway to mod it into my XBox.

[Johnnycide]

BigGuy28 wrote...

As I said I'm going to give it a chance but if these endings really are all we get I just may have to reinstall Icewind Dale 2 and Baldurs Gate 2 to remember the Bioware I loved that sadly died a horrible death sometime after Mass Effect 2 was released.

Before Mass Effect 2 was released.

[MelfinaofOutlawStar]

In an interview with Computer and Videogames, BioWare marketing director David Silverman went so far as to call Mass Effect 3 the "best game we've ever made".

I'm just going to put this here....

[Pr3ying M4nt15 360]

I may as have well got Shepard killed in ME2 and let the reapers, reap the galaxy.

I have no doubt that this will be one of the greatest Bioware journey's yet with emotionally indepth characters.
Which will make this sloppy and heartless ending all the more difficult to swallow...

Modifié par Pr3ying M4nt15 360, 01 mars 2012 - 07:44 .

[GodWood]

DifferentD17 wrote...

shimpt wrote...
BW listens to there fans... sometimes but this is driven by EA and all EA gives a s*** about is Money

I guess we all have to realize Bioware is Ea and EA is Bioware. They took the merge ending appearently.

If they were purely creating the endings from a "make money" POV they'd just appease the masses and toss out some cookie cutter "lol Shepard saves the day and lives happily ever after with his space waifu/husbando" ending.

[shimpt]

Off topic anyone know which romances are supposedly f***** up

[BigGuy28]

Johnnycide wrote...

BigGuy28 wrote...

As I said I'm going to give it a chance but if these endings really are all we get I just may have to reinstall Icewind Dale 2 and Baldurs Gate 2 to remember the Bioware I loved that sadly died a horrible death sometime after Mass Effect 2 was released.

Before Mass Effect 2 was released.

I loved Mass Effect 2, had very little to complain about it. I consider it their last good game. I really love The Old Republic too but it's hard to decide what to feel about it when it's the middle of the sloppy crap sandwich of Dragon Age 2 and Mass Effect 3.

[GodWood]

Pr3ying M4nt15 360 wrote...
I may as have well got Shepard killed in ME2 and let the reapers, reap the galaxy.

Who cares about the trillions of lives in the galaxy?

If Shepard can't spooge on his LI then just what the **** is the point?

[Johnnycide]

GodWood wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

shimpt wrote...
BW listens to there fans... sometimes but this is driven by EA and all EA gives a s*** about is Money

I guess we all have to realize Bioware is Ea and EA is Bioware. They took the merge ending appearently.

If they were purely creating the endings from a "make money" POV they'd just appease the masses and toss out some cookie cutter "lol Shepard saves the day and lives happily ever after with his space waifu/husbando" ending.

Actually if the game was to be as they claimed, it should've factored in the "1000's of variables" and there wouldn't be set endings and instead an ending generator.

[Juniper Mucius]

I still feel people are vastly overreacting. Yes, it's a bunch of dren we have limited options here. But there's nothing that says this dooms everything. We don't have all of the frelling context, and we're going totally off the words of others. I'm not doubting all the endings happen like this, but we don't have game-rendered footage to show us everything else. So far, everyone's doing a lot of illogical whining.

[crazyrabbits]

kingsims wrote...

There are a lot of talented artists who will probably not like the ending and ending splicing up their own epilogue.

Here is an awesome Flux video created with Adobe after effects, Few mods etc
www.youtube.com/watch

I have only personally seen one game where a group of modders created wholesale cutscenes out of scratch (never mind cutscenes that are pre-rendered). That was the Nameless Mod for the original Deus Ex, which took the better part of a decade to finish (and was in-engine). Reinstating cut content, sure. Never anything on the level of what you're proposing. That Youtube video looks silly as hell.

The leaked endings are all pre-rendered cutscenes. If someone wants to "create their own ending", they not only have to put in significant time and effort creating said cutscenes from scratch, but they would also require access to the game's source code from Bioware - maybe even create new character animations. Do you know how much time and effort something like that would take? Years, conservatively.

Unless BW somehow come up with post-game DLC (a la Fallout 3: Broken Steel) to retcon everything, this is the set of endings we'll get. I'm not too broken up over it.

Modifié par crazyrabbits, 01 mars 2012 - 07:49 .

[Dave of Canada]

GodWood wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

shimpt wrote...
BW listens to there fans... sometimes but this is driven by EA and all EA gives a s*** about is Money

I guess we all have to realize Bioware is Ea and EA is Bioware. They took the merge ending appearently.

If they were purely creating the endings from a "make money" POV they'd just appease the masses and toss out some cookie cutter "lol Shepard saves the day and lives happily ever after with his space waifu/husbando" ending.

They're doing the endings in order to possibly cut off from rehashing the same **** over and over, they've essentially doomed the current plot threads completely and dismissed everything relevent. Council politics, Cerberus, Humans achieving too much power too fast, Humanity's place in the galaxy, ect. All of that is irrelevent now.

EA wanting more would force prequels or sequels set in a completely different time.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 01 mars 2012 - 07:47 .