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[phosphene]

Bigdoser wrote...

yoshibb wrote...

As I said before, it is not that hard to fix this like it would be to fix a giant mess like DA2. It's a simple ending. One more cutscene. Modders with the tools could do it easily.

There is a modding group up already thats planning to change the ending. 

Thank you baby raptor jesus! link source? 

[albertalad]

The Free Jaffa wrote...

I still feel people are vastly overreacting. Yes, it's a bunch of dren we have limited options here. But there's nothing that says this dooms everything. We don't have all of the frelling context, and we're going totally off the words of others. I'm not doubting all the endings happen like this, but we don't have game-rendered footage to show us everything else. So far, everyone's doing a lot of illogical whining.

Then BW can easily step in just say the so called leaks have nothing to do with ME3. That's all it take no giving away the end - that alone would fire up everyone top play ME3! That's in their own best interest!

[MelfinaofOutlawStar]

The Free Jaffa wrote...

I still feel people are vastly overreacting. Yes, it's a bunch of dren we have limited options here. But there's nothing that says this dooms everything. We don't have all of the frelling context, and we're going totally off the words of others. I'm not doubting all the endings happen like this, but we don't have game-rendered footage to show us everything else. So far, everyone's doing a lot of illogical whining.

I posted the context earlier. You're given three choices(with slight alterations). The videos have context now.

[Not the Droid]

Heh Godwood I fail to see why your even in this thread??? When you would be better served in a thank you for giving me what I want thread?? Cause well your just adding to how big the thread actually looks and you have stated your fine with the end (with perhaps the same hang up as me).

I could almost thats almost be convinced ta join ya there in one (cept all the relays nixes thing really burns me heheh)

[DifferentD17]

If only we knew the endings months ago when the script was leaked. Then they might of been able to change it. If we got this mad about it...

[xtorma]

GodWood wrote...

xtorma wrote...

GodWood wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...
200 pages bioware has to listen now.. right? ....right? D:

A measily 200 page thread on their foums complaining about the ending before it's released but after it has gone gold is not going to change a thing.

200 pages in 1 day , now extrapolate to the release date

Paragon Vs Renegade threads could get to 200+ pages in a day, as could "Armour for females" threads.

Those were around when Bioware could change the direction of the franchise to accomodate these concerns and yet they still didn't.

Trust me, atm, this is nothing.

We are absolutly sure it is nothing , or that bioware thinks it is nothing. like i posted , as long as they are making the money , what we think is waaaaay back burner.

It's ok with me. I wont buy another bioware game , and i have cancelled my sub to swtor , but in all honesty it means nothing to them. I am just 100 bucks. a drop in the ocean to them. Most folks will buy the game and play it, regardless of how they feel about the ending.

[Kileyan]

DifferentD17 wrote...

shimpt wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

200 pages bioware has to listen now.. right? ....right? D:

BW listens to there fans... sometimes but this is driven by EA and all EA gives a s*** about is Money

I guess we all have to realize Bioware is Ea and EA is Bioware. They took the merge ending appearently.

Yeh I wish people would quit pushing the blame on EA. Bioware wasn't a tiny company swallowed up by EA because they needed funds and were going bankrupt. Bioware was successful on thier own and sold to EA for lots of cash because they were a good company in a good position with a good fan base.

Bioware and EA are pretty much the same people. The founders of Bioware are on the EA board as part of the deal, they are the same company.

[Bigdoser]

phosphene wrote...

Bigdoser wrote...

yoshibb wrote...

As I said before, it is not that hard to fix this like it would be to fix a giant mess like DA2. It's a simple ending. One more cutscene. Modders with the tools could do it easily.

There is a modding group up already thats planning to change the ending. 

Thank you baby raptor jesus! link source? 

here is the link to the group. 
social.bioware.com/group/6999/

[GodWood]

Dave of Canada wrote...
They're doing the endings in order to possibly cut off from rehashing the same **** over and over, they've essentially doomed the current plot threads completely and dismissed everything relevent. Council politics, Cerberus, Humans achieving too much power too fast, Humanity's place in the galaxy, ect. All of that is irrelevent now.

EA wanting more would force prequels or sequels set in a completely different time.

Well I'm of the perspective that if they were looking for galaxy ripe for sequel cash ins they'd have just had endings that maintained keeping the status quo and appeasing the fanbase.

Less thought, less effort and less world building. What they've done atm is a terrible move if they're hoping for spinoffs. I guess there is prequels but from a marketing POV I don't think they'd think anyone would not want to be a human.

Don't get me wrong though, I'm not so positive to think that this is Bioware being artsy... Frankly I don't know what it is. Bi-polar Bioware not thinking things through again?

Either way I'm enjoying it for what it is. A poorly handled shred of decency in a plot full of crap.

[dw99027]

So they throw the whole trilogy under the bus for the sake of the next game in the franchise, and that's supposed to be okay?

That's oversimplfying it. They are not 100% percent fanservice, they have to balance that with a viable business model. Closure of ME while leaving the window open for a future blank canvas for them to work on is the best of both worlds. The price we players pay for graphics and voiced dialogue is limited allowance for extreme variation. If it were text-only they could go crazy with the possibilities.

And as I said earlier, they can easily remedy this by picking one ending and making it their personal canon or setting the future titles in the series so far ahead in time that the specifics of the war with the Reapers has long since fallen into myth and they can satisfy all outcomes with events occuring in the inbetween years.

An official canon would result in even more rage, rightfully so. THAT would be invalidating player choice. And no matter how long into the future the next game takes place, huge variations such as Galaxy status-quo intact versus everything having to start from scratch would still hugely affect the setting.

[Tietj]

GodWood wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...
They're doing the endings in order to possibly cut off from rehashing the same **** over and over, they've essentially doomed the current plot threads completely and dismissed everything relevent. Council politics, Cerberus, Humans achieving too much power too fast, Humanity's place in the galaxy, ect. All of that is irrelevent now.

EA wanting more would force prequels or sequels set in a completely different time.

Well I'm of the perspective that if they were looking for galaxy ripe for sequel cash ins they'd have just had endings that maintained keeping the status quo and appeasing the fanbase.

Less thought, less effort and less world building. What they've done atm is a terrible move if they're hoping for spinoffs. I guess there is prequels but from a marketing POV I don't think they'd think anyone would not want to be a human.

Don't get me wrong though, I'm not so positive to think that this is Bioware being artsy... Frankly I don't know what it is. Bi-polar Bioware not thinking things through again?

Either way I'm enjoying it for what it is. A poorly handled shred of decency in a plot full of crap.

I'm sure Bioware appreciates your ringing endorsement.  But I have to wonder what you're doing on a Mass Effect forum in the first place

[albertalad]

This sounds like BW the Russian version where everything Russian is tragic.

[DifferentD17]

Kileyan wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

shimpt wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

200 pages bioware has to listen now.. right? ....right? D:

BW listens to there fans... sometimes but this is driven by EA and all EA gives a s*** about is Money

I guess we all have to realize Bioware is Ea and EA is Bioware. They took the merge ending appearently.

Yeh I wish people would quit pushing the blame on EA. Bioware wasn't a tiny company swallowed up by EA because they needed funds and were going bankrupt. Bioware was successful on thier own and sold to EA for lots of cash because they were a good company in a good position with a good fan base.

Bioware and EA are pretty much the same people. The founders of Bioware are on the EA board as part of the deal, they are the same company.

Lol kiss that fan base good bye.

[GodWood]

Tietj wrote...
I'm sure Bioware appreciates your ringing endorsement.  But I have to wonder what you're doing on a Mass Effect forum in the first place

Discussing the series content, lore and the upcoming final installment of course.

I could ask you the same question but I'm not the type to condemn those who don't wholeheartedly support everything about the franchise.

[Dave of Canada]

GodWood wrote...

Well I'm of the perspective that if they were looking for galaxy ripe for sequel cash ins they'd have just had endings that maintained keeping the status quo and appeasing the fanbase.

Less thought, less effort and less world building. What they've done atm is a terrible move if they're hoping for spinoffs. I guess there is prequels but from a marketing POV I don't think they'd think anyone would not want to be a human.

I'm thinking more along the lines of "We're sick of this ****, let's screw over everything we've done and start new." or maybe they'll just pass off the ME universe to another studio. A know a lot of companies tend to do this with movies / games when they want to do nothing more, they just make sure nothing more can be done with it and somebody else has to start fresh.

[shimpt]

dw99027 wrote...

So they throw the whole trilogy under the bus for the sake of the next game in the franchise, and that's supposed to be okay?

That's oversimplfying it. They are not 100% percent fanservice, they have to balance that with a viable business model. Closure of ME while leaving the window open for a future blank canvas for them to work on is the best of both worlds. The price we players pay for graphics and voiced dialogue is limited allowance for extreme variation. If it were text-only they could go crazy with the possibilities.

I would prefer to go crazy then be thrown under a bus

Just my opinion tho

[Yuqi]

The Achivments list a cerberus ending don't they?

[GodWood]

Dave of Canada wrote...
I'm thinking more along the lines of "We're sick of this ****, let's screw over everything we've done and start new." or maybe they'll just pass off the ME universe to another studio. A know a lot of companies tend to do this with movies / games when they want to do nothing more, they just make sure nothing more can be done with it and somebody else has to start fresh.

If that's the case then I hope it's Obsidian.

They'd give the setting the treatment it deserves.

[Juniper Mucius]

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

The Free Jaffa wrote...

I still feel people are vastly overreacting. Yes, it's a bunch of dren we have limited options here. But there's nothing that says this dooms everything. We don't have all of the frelling context, and we're going totally off the words of others. I'm not doubting all the endings happen like this, but we don't have game-rendered footage to show us everything else. So far, everyone's doing a lot of illogical whining.

I posted the context earlier. You're given three choices(with slight alterations). The videos have context now.

With all game-rendered dialogue?  So there's nothing explaining how everyone will survive?  Because in my game, I will have rachni, humans, krogan, geth, quarians, volus, elcor, asari, salarians, and turians (as well as maybe more) all in Sol during the main battle.  All of these species will be suck there?  End of story, nothing else said about how they will survive?  Nothing at all?

[Sia_Sinblade]

GodWood wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...
I'm thinking more along the lines of "We're sick of this ****, let's screw over everything we've done and start new." or maybe they'll just pass off the ME universe to another studio. A know a lot of companies tend to do this with movies / games when they want to do nothing more, they just make sure nothing more can be done with it and somebody else has to start fresh.

If that's the case then I hope it's Obsidian.

They'd give the setting the treatment it deserves.

It deserves a bugged out game that has tons of potential but never quite reaches it because of bad implementation? o.O

[xtorma]

The Free Jaffa wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

The Free Jaffa wrote...

I still feel people are vastly overreacting. Yes, it's a bunch of dren we have limited options here. But there's nothing that says this dooms everything. We don't have all of the frelling context, and we're going totally off the words of others. I'm not doubting all the endings happen like this, but we don't have game-rendered footage to show us everything else. So far, everyone's doing a lot of illogical whining.

I posted the context earlier. You're given three choices(with slight alterations). The videos have context now.

With all game-rendered dialogue?  So there's nothing explaining how everyone will survive?  Because in my game, I will have rachni, humans, krogan, geth, quarians, volus, elcor, asari, salarians, and turians (as well as maybe more) all in Sol during the main battle.  All of these species will be suck there?  End of story, nothing else said about how they will survive?  Nothing at all?

if they are all sucking there , who cares....multi cultural space orgy wooohooooo

[Johnnycide]

GodWood wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...
I'm thinking more along the lines of "We're sick of this ****, let's screw over everything we've done and start new." or maybe they'll just pass off the ME universe to another studio. A know a lot of companies tend to do this with movies / games when they want to do nothing more, they just make sure nothing more can be done with it and somebody else has to start fresh.

If that's the case then I hope it's Obsidian.

They'd give the setting the treatment it deserves.

I vote Rockstar. I can picture jumping out the airlock to hijack another ship.

[Dave of Canada]

Yuqi wrote...

The Achivments list a cerberus ending don't they?

Nope.

TIM is always indoctrinated and he always tries to kill you, though you can charm him to realize he's indoctrinated and he pulls off a Saren. You can't support Cerberus throughout the entire game and everybody calls you an idiot for working with them in ME2, more so if you were Renegade.

ME3 doesn't allow you to be pro-human.

[GodWood]

Sia_Sinblade wrote...
It deserves a bugged out game that has tons of potential but never quite reaches it because of bad implementation? o.O

I've still yet to encounter a bug in an Obsidian game.

To be fair though my exposure is pretty limited.

[Sia_Sinblade]

GodWood wrote...

Sia_Sinblade wrote...
It deserves a bugged out game that has tons of potential but never quite reaches it because of bad implementation? o.O

I've still yet to encounter a bug in an Obsidian game.

To be fair though my exposure is pretty limited.

You must not have played Alpha Protocol.  

But even without bugs...every Obsidian Game suffers from a ton of possibility with only mediocre implementation. Still good games though. For the most part.