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Pandoravv3 wrote...

MEs latest twitter stated that while they are considering changing the endings, they are getting alot of people suggesting that they don't change the endings. I really hate when people do that. It doesn't matter how many people are on the opposing side, the few that say what you want to hear are worth more.


Especially when they keep calling us the "vocal minority" <_<

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Doppelgaenger wrote...

silencemayday wrote...

and as for our daily morale booster, folks. 

ahh, sometimes i question my life and my choices. 


When we are done with this I want a poster of this.:wub:


t-shirt here :D

#50403
WvStolzing

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Some really good comments on this page: http://www.bbb.org/blog/?p=5307
(I'm talking about other people's responses, not mine!!!)

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Pandoravv3 wrote...

Benirus wrote...

DuncanId wrote...

Just realized that Catherine has more and better endings.

A game about a guy in underwear climbing a tower in dreams while hanging in a bar with his friends and trying to decide if he should cheat on his girlfriend because he's afraid of marrying her has more and better endings.

I don't even know how to feel about that.

Catherine's "bad guy" ending is boss :lol: If you haven't seen it, check it up on youtube.


Are you referring to the chaos ending, or the actually bad versions of order, or chaos?

The true cheater ending it's called i think.

#50405
TamiBx

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TSC_1 wrote...

Pandoravv3 wrote...

MEs latest twitter stated that while they are considering changing the endings, they are getting alot of people suggesting that they don't change the endings. I really hate when people do that. It doesn't matter how many people are on the opposing side, the few that say what you want to hear are worth more.


Link to that Twitter post?


 https://twitter.com/...188923588579329

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DJBare wrote...

Pandoravv3 wrote...

MEs latest twitter stated that while they are considering changing the endings, they are getting alot of people suggesting that they don't change the endings. I really hate when people do that. It doesn't matter how many people are on the opposing side, the few that say what you want to hear are worth more.

I cannot get on twitter, but they are mistaken, this movement is not looking to change the current endings, it's looking for additional endings, that way everyone gets what they want.


True but it seems that the Anti-Retake movement and so-called normal people on Twitter cannot read .... :mellow: (we can gift them a lot of eyeglasses), if they read here they can know that we're asking for more endings, but not to Delete these one. After all some people (10%) have liked it. :mellow:

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WvStolzing wrote...

Some really good comments on this page: http://www.bbb.org/blog/?p=5307
(I'm talking about other people's responses, not mine!!!)

it great to see a really good news site especailly the bbc do a peice on the movement, very good read

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TamiBx

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I've heard this line so many times by now... https://twitter.com/...188174733348864 

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TamiBx wrote...

TSC_1 wrote...

Pandoravv3 wrote...

MEs latest twitter stated that while they are considering changing the endings, they are getting alot of people suggesting that they don't change the endings. I really hate when people do that. It doesn't matter how many people are on the opposing side, the few that say what you want to hear are worth more.


Link to that Twitter post?


 https://twitter.com/...188923588579329


Thanks. I replied to it. Twice. Can we jump all over that post, guys? Make it clear that there are more of us, and that there are ways to give us our endings without taking away the current ones.

#50410
Doppelgaenger

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Sevantha wrote...

Doppelgaenger wrote...

silencemayday wrote...

and as for our daily morale booster, folks. 

ahh, sometimes i question my life and my choices. 


When we are done with this I want a poster of this.:wub:


t-shirt here :D


http://www.redbubble...ant-do-it-alone

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Mr Chr15topher

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Mythandariel wrote...

Pandoravv3 wrote...

MEs latest twitter stated that while they are considering changing the endings, they are getting alot of people suggesting that they don't change the endings. I really hate when people do that. It doesn't matter how many people are on the opposing side, the few that say what you want to hear are worth more.


Easy answer to that one. Make the new endings an optional download.

There... drama solved.

If only they saw it that way...

#50412
StarGateGod

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TamiBx wrote...

TSC_1 wrote...

Pandoravv3 wrote...

MEs latest twitter stated that while they are considering changing the endings, they are getting alot of people suggesting that they don't change the endings. I really hate when people do that. It doesn't matter how many people are on the opposing side, the few that say what you want to hear are worth more.


Link to that Twitter post?


 https://twitter.com/...188923588579329

interesting i dont like the word at the end affront sound sliek they think changing it would be bad

Modifié par StarGateGod, 20 mars 2012 - 08:17 .


#50413
Xyalon

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beyondsolo wrote...

Another popular tactic of pro-ending activists (I don't mind people who liked the ending, I'm happy for them, really; that's why this specific term to define the group) is to open a thread or start a discussion, stating their reasons why they liked the ending. Then someone from the Retake Movement responds, deconstructing everything they said politely but firmly, and then offers our reasons why we don't like the ending.

What follows is that the pro-ending activist will end up ignoring most of the points and just start attacking what he or she perceives as the weakest spot, not offering any counter-argumentation whatsoever to 95% of the response. This may work in a hit-and-run war, but not in a civilized discussion.


I don't mind them either, if they are civil and willing to enter into reasonable discussion over the endings or lack thereof, but sadly those seem few and far between. Most people have it in them to be reasonable. We have the ability to communicate. Why we can't use it in a positive manner I will never know.

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Mythandariel wrote...

Pandoravv3 wrote...

MEs latest twitter stated that while they are considering changing the endings, they are getting alot of people suggesting that they don't change the endings. I really hate when people do that. It doesn't matter how many people are on the opposing side, the few that say what you want to hear are worth more.


Easy answer to that one. Make the new endings an optional download.

There... drama solved.


For pities sake, just compare the godd**n facebook pages, as well as every poll on the internet. The majority hate the ending.

It's like they're saying, to keep those 1000 fans that like the ending we're more than willing to lose 50,000. What kind of logic is this?

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Sevantha wrote...

Doppelgaenger wrote...

silencemayday wrote...

and as for our daily morale booster, folks. 

ahh, sometimes i question my life and my choices. 


When we are done with this I want a poster of this.:wub:


t-shirt here :D


I'll take one for femshep!

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Hydralysk

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TamiBx wrote...

TSC_1 wrote...

Pandoravv3 wrote...

MEs latest twitter stated that while they are considering changing the endings, they are getting alot of people suggesting that they don't change the endings. I really hate when people do that. It doesn't matter how many people are on the opposing side, the few that say what you want to hear are worth more.


Link to that Twitter post?


 https://twitter.com/...188923588579329


"We are getting plenty of feedback from people who love the ending and consider the thought of changing it an affront, as well." that doesn't sound like consider changing the endings.

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Pandoravv3 wrote...

MEs latest twitter stated that while they are considering changing the endings, they are getting alot of people suggesting that they don't change the endings. I really hate when people do that. It doesn't matter how many people are on the opposing side, the few that say what you want to hear are worth more.


That's just another reason everyone should at least make one stop at the ME3 Suggested Changes Thread and tell them what you would like.  There is a link in my signature.

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Pandoravv3

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TSC_1 wrote...

Pandoravv3 wrote...

MEs latest twitter stated that while they are considering changing the endings, they are getting alot of people suggesting that they don't change the endings. I really hate when people do that. It doesn't matter how many people are on the opposing side, the few that say what you want to hear are worth more.


Link to that Twitter post?


http://twitter.com/#...188426664218626

Hope that works, no diea how to use twitter.

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Nharia1 wrote...

Seem to be seeing this little kid... a boy in fact... and I'm running towards him in slow... wait a minute, how the hell did Space boy get in my dreams.... O.O Okay that's it! I'm going to shoot him next time he pops into my dreams... now where is that Black Widow, in my dreams....


Just dream of Isabella from DA II, or Miranda in a her white outfit, or EDI with her emergency injection port showing in the white outfit, or....

I'm sorry, I'm sure I was trying to make a point in there somewhere.

Modifié par Ohpus, 20 mars 2012 - 08:17 .


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TSC_1

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StarGateGod wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

TSC_1 wrote...

Pandoravv3 wrote...

MEs latest twitter stated that while they are considering changing the endings, they are getting alot of people suggesting that they don't change the endings. I really hate when people do that. It doesn't matter how many people are on the opposing side, the few that say what you want to hear are worth more.


Link to that Twitter post?


 https://twitter.com/...188923588579329

not working for me just getting a relink to this site a expedition to the deep roads


Here: https://twitter.com/...188174733348864

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Goikiu wrote...
True but it seems that the Anti-Retake movement and so-called normal people on Twitter cannot read .... :mellow: (we can gift them a lot of eyeglasses), if they read here they can know that we're asking for more endings, but not to Delete these one. After all some people (10%) have liked it. :mellow:


If they do give us more endings, and keep the one we have, it will be forever known as "The Lame Ending."

#50422
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Xyalon wrote...

galaxidj wrote...

As ive mentioned many pages before (lol) the people that "liked" the ending have in no way invested as much time as us.
Though i can not speak for all of you, i do tend to believe that most have spend over 100's of hours per saga.
I myself have 7 playthroughs on ME1 and 11 on ME2, however one on ME3 lol.
People that dont have similair numbers/time on the ME series dont share the connection we have with it, thus making them care less and accept more.
We on the other hand have connected with the series, care for it, and thus find the ending insulting to both Mass Effect and what Bioware stands for.


In my own personal experience, looking at what people have written in both forum and in reviews blogs in favour of the endings, it seems like they actually have very little to say about what they like it.

What I have seen is a lot of people protesting its High Art, or insisting that we just "don't get it" or that we can't understand what makes "good scifi". Apart from finding that somewhat insulting, I would like to point out that "You wouldn't understand" is not a reason; it is deflection.

Not only that, they seem to have resorted to the tactics of the reapers when faced with a question that they don't seem to know the answer to themselves, or are not really interested in discussing in case they actually realised that their logic is painfully flawed. "Purposes that are higher than organic beings can comprehend."

Well then, if this is the case, and all of us are just too damn stupid to understand what is so great about the ending, why are they then not endeavouring to teach us like the responsible intellectual human beings that they are, instead of sitting there, smearing us with labels, flaming and trolling us until they're blue in the face and throwing barely concealed insults?

The reason is this, they cannot. If they would like to prove me wrong then I will happily listen to their arguments. Until that time I shall go with the experience I have so far which is that either they haven't played the game (which some admit to), or they are being contrary for the sake of it.


It seems to me the people that don't agree with us have three choices: (1) Use critical thinking and logic to define why they think the ending was good, (2) Admit their initial argument was wrong and concede our argument has more merit, or (3) Use rhetoric and missleading logic to obscure the reason behind their beliefs and still say we are wrong.

I think we all know where the vast majority of the opposition has taken their stand, *caugh* "entitlement".

#50423
TamiBx

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StarGateGod wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

TSC_1 wrote...

Link to that Twitter post?


 https://twitter.com/...188923588579329

not working for me just getting a relink to this site a expedition to the deep roads


Trying putting www. right before twitter. And copy and past the link rather than cliking on it. 
(it works fine here)

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He just chose the Destroy ending, came in and went "So the problem was...?"

I told him to go back and do the other two endings and talk to me then.  <_<

Modifié par Mara Shep, 20 mars 2012 - 08:18 .


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Benirus wrote...
Catherine's "bad guy" ending is boss :lol: If you haven't seen it, check it up on youtube.

Replayed the game a few times to see all the endings. That one is just epic.