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[Sebby]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Yuqi wrote...

The Achivments list a cerberus ending don't they?

Nope.

TIM is always indoctrinated and he always tries to kill you, though you can charm him to realize he's indoctrinated and he pulls off a Saren. You can't support Cerberus throughout the entire game and everybody calls you an idiot for working with them in ME2, more so if you were Renegade.

ME3 doesn't allow you to be pro-human.

Seems to be a logical progression from ME2 where in that game they just about completely erased Renegade Shepard's humancentric beliefs/dialogue options and made him into a generic space hero with a bad attitude.

[yoshibb]

Dave of Canada wrote...

GodWood wrote...

Well I'm of the perspective that if they were looking for galaxy ripe for sequel cash ins they'd have just had endings that maintained keeping the status quo and appeasing the fanbase.

Less thought, less effort and less world building. What they've done atm is a terrible move if they're hoping for spinoffs. I guess there is prequels but from a marketing POV I don't think they'd think anyone would not want to be a human.

I'm thinking more along the lines of "We're sick of this ****, let's screw over everything we've done and start new." or maybe they'll just pass off the ME universe to another studio. A know a lot of companies tend to do this with movies / games when they want to do nothing more, they just make sure nothing more can be done with it and somebody else has to start fresh.

In that case, why don't they just kill everybody? What's up with this marooning bull****?

[dw99027]

I would prefer to go crazy then be thrown under a bus

You and me both. I'm 32 and I grew up on text adventures. But I'm also 32 and run a business of my own, so I know what the 'other side' feels like. It's not just a race for cash grabbing, it's also a race for 'product viability' or, on the non-exec level, 'just keeping your damn job'.

[G3rman]

Sia_Sinblade wrote...

GodWood wrote...

Sia_Sinblade wrote...
It deserves a bugged out game that has tons of potential but never quite reaches it because of bad implementation? o.O

I've still yet to encounter a bug in an Obsidian game.

To be fair though my exposure is pretty limited.

You must not have played Alpha Protocol.  

But even without bugs...every Obsidian Game suffers from a ton of possibility with only mediocre implementation. Still good games though. For the most part. 

Alpha Protocol had so much potential too.

Still, it had its decent points.

[shimpt]

dw99027 wrote...

I would prefer to go crazy then be thrown under a bus

You and me both. I'm 32 and I grew up on text adventures. But I'm also 32 and run a business of my own, so I know what the 'other side' feels like. It's not just a race for cash grabbing, it's also a race for 'product viability' or, on the non-exec level, 'just keeping your damn job'.

I see both sides but assuming that we aren't just the vocal minority and assuming that these indeed are the actual  endings back to back f*** ups refering to (DA2) this doesn't seem like keeping our job it seems like career suicide

[Sia_Sinblade]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Sia_Sinblade wrote...

You must not have played Alpha Protocol.  

But even without bugs...every Obsidian Game suffers from a ton of possibility with only mediocre implementation. Still good games though. For the most part. 

I HAVE played it, quite extensively, and I've encountered no bugs.

Lucky you. Most reports at launch indicated otherwise. So did my own few playthroughs.  

[Avoozl-]

So I take it that this game will do a kotOR 2 in the sense of there being only one ending?

Modifié par DoomsFolly, 01 mars 2012 - 08:15 .

[Yakko77]

ithurtz wrote...

Oh man, would the epic poopoo storm come next wednesday be epic.

Well, this gamer enjoyed playing DA2 so who knows, I'll probably end up liking the game despite all the concerns.  LOL!

[Juniper Mucius]

xtorma wrote...

The Free Jaffa wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

The Free Jaffa wrote...

I still feel people are vastly overreacting. Yes, it's a bunch of dren we have limited options here. But there's nothing that says this dooms everything. We don't have all of the frelling context, and we're going totally off the words of others. I'm not doubting all the endings happen like this, but we don't have game-rendered footage to show us everything else. So far, everyone's doing a lot of illogical whining.

I posted the context earlier. You're given three choices(with slight alterations). The videos have context now.

With all game-rendered dialogue?  So there's nothing explaining how everyone will survive?  Because in my game, I will have rachni, humans, krogan, geth, quarians, volus, elcor, asari, salarians, and turians (as well as maybe more) all in Sol during the main battle.  All of these species will be suck there?  End of story, nothing else said about how they will survive?  Nothing at all?

if they are all sucking there , who cares....multi cultural space orgy wooohooooo

They wouldn't have enough resources to sustain all of those people.  As well, quarians and turians need a specific diet that can't be duplicated (apparently).  This also dooms many other planets that rely on trade to function.  This dooms ships that are in FTL currently.  Everyone on the Citadel would eventually starve to death, if it isn't destroyed outright anyway.  The quarians that went to Earth to fight won't get to see their homeworld again, the one that they JUST got back.

It doesn't add up.  We're missing something.

Modifié par The Free Jaffa, 01 mars 2012 - 08:16 .

[GSS115]

Bioware is fully aware of how just those endings will upset people. 

The vids that have leaked have no context other than the obvious relay explosions (and the normandy blowing up in only one of the vids ).  

It's too early for me to render the judgment with only this much intel.  I'm holding out till the 6th.
Then I'll decide.  If these are the only endings than I'll forgo purchase.  If not, and there is a not so dark ending, I'll purchase.

Check the poll.  If they did half *** it these numbers should have been perdicted by BW/EA.
http://social.biowar...59/polls/28861/

I hoping that this is just a case of pre-war nerves.
If not I'll rage later.
*crawls into corner*
It's gonna be ok.  It's gonna be ok.  It's gonna be ok.  It's gonna be ok.  It's gonna be ok.  It's gonna be ok.   

[MelfinaofOutlawStar]

I never beat Alpha Protocol.

Couldn't get past the first mission. Got a weird..I guess it was a bug. Was seen, killed, had to start over. Since you start in a standing position behind a barrier the guard was timed so he always would see me as the level started before I had a chance to duck. So the cycle continued until I gave up.XD

[Yakko77]

Sia_Sinblade wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Sia_Sinblade wrote...

You must not have played Alpha Protocol.  

But even without bugs...every Obsidian Game suffers from a ton of possibility with only mediocre implementation. Still good games though. For the most part. 

I HAVE played it, quite extensively, and I've encountered no bugs.

Lucky you. Most reports at launch indicated otherwise. So did my own few playthroughs.  

Obsidian?  Don't even get me started on Fallout New Vegas!  LOL!  The game was tons of fun but based on the Bethesda engine from Fallout 3, it had a few... issues!  LOL!!!

[TheBlackBaron]

GodWood wrote...

Sia_Sinblade wrote...
It deserves a bugged out game that has tons of potential but never quite reaches it because of bad implementation? o.O

I've still yet to encounter a bug in an Obsidian game.

To be fair though my exposure is pretty limited.

Obsidian is more well-known for being rushed to release by publishers, which causes cut content. That's pretty much been their albatross since KotOR II - NWN2's OC was arguably even worse, with a literal Rocks Fall Everyone Dies ending. 

All of my F:NV games have been blissfully free of bugs and beset only by minor glitches. Never noticed anything with Alpha Protocol either. 

Modifié par TheBlackBaron, 01 mars 2012 - 08:19 .

[Rdubs]

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

In an interview with Computer and Videogames, BioWare marketing director David Silverman went so far as to call Mass Effect 3 the "best game we've ever made".

I'm just going to put this here....

Im thinking about starting a thread which collects all PR statements made by Bioware regarding all their promises and statements and then contrast them with how things really turned out.  Kind of serve as a quick reference guide for examining the credibility of future PR statements and interviews.  

[Pr3ying M4nt15 360]

I was just thinking, important advice regarding views on determining your own technology path (one that very much promotes the destroy ending to me) is given to you in ME2 by Legion. Ironic then that such a decision results in the death of the Geth.

[MelfinaofOutlawStar]

GSS115 wrote...

Bioware is fully aware of how just those endings will upset people. 

The vids that have leaked have no context other than the obvious relay explosions (and the normandy blowing up in only one of the vids ).  

It's too early for me to render the judgment with only this much intel.  I'm holding out till the 6th.
Then I'll decide.  If these are the only endings than I'll forgo purchase.  If not, and there is a not so dark ending, I'll purchase.

Check the poll.  If they did half *** it these numbers should have been perdicted by BW/EA.
http://social.biowar...59/polls/28861/

I hoping that this is just a case of pre-war nerves.
If not I'll rage later.
*crawls into corner*
It's gonna be ok.  It's gonna be ok.  It's gonna be ok.  It's gonna be ok.  It's gonna be ok.  It's gonna be ok.   

I posted the endings earlier. Each one Shepard tells the Normandy crew to leave. Regardless of your choice to destroy synthetics(reapers, EDI, Geth), assuming control(being absorbed as an AI), or merging synthetics and organics, the relays are destroyed. The Normandy is caught in the subsequent explosion(what is shown in the videos) trying to escape and they are stranded. In controlling or merging Shepard is destroyed. When destroying the synthetics you have a chance to live. These are your three endings(two of which have small variations). That's it.

[Yakko77]

Pr3ying M4nt15 360 wrote...

I was just thinking, important advice regarding views on determining your own technology path (one that very much promotes the destroy ending to me) is given to you in ME2 by Legion. Ironic then that such a decision results in the death of the Geth.

Meh, it's not like they're alive or  anything.

[xtorma]

Rdubs wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

In an interview with Computer and Videogames, BioWare marketing director David Silverman went so far as to call Mass Effect 3 the "best game we've ever made".

I'm just going to put this here....

Im thinking about starting a thread which collects all PR statements made by Bioware regarding all their promises and statements and then contrast them with how things really turned out.  Kind of serve as a quick reference guide for examining the credibility of future PR statements and interviews.  

Do it it will be....interesting

[Nathan Redgrave]

xtorma wrote...

Rdubs wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

In an interview with Computer and Videogames, BioWare marketing director David Silverman went so far as to call Mass Effect 3 the "best game we've ever made".

I'm just going to put this here....

Im thinking about starting a thread which collects all PR statements made by Bioware regarding all their promises and statements and then contrast them with how things really turned out.  Kind of serve as a quick reference guide for examining the credibility of future PR statements and interviews.  

Do it it will be....interesting

Everything is the "best" when it comes to marketing. Why? Because "best" is a bloody opinion, so they can't technically lie about it.

[MelfinaofOutlawStar]

Rdubs wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

In an interview with Computer and Videogames, BioWare marketing director David Silverman went so far as to call Mass Effect 3 the "best game we've ever made".

I'm just going to put this here....

Im thinking about starting a thread which collects all PR statements made by Bioware regarding all their promises and statements and then contrast them with how things really turned out.  Kind of serve as a quick reference guide for examining the credibility of future PR statements and interviews.  

What's really entertaining is the Awesome Button video on Youtube had to be reposted because it was taken down on grounds on copyright infringment.

[xtorma]

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

GSS115 wrote...

Bioware is fully aware of how just those endings will upset people. 

The vids that have leaked have no context other than the obvious relay explosions (and the normandy blowing up in only one of the vids ).  

It's too early for me to render the judgment with only this much intel.  I'm holding out till the 6th.
Then I'll decide.  If these are the only endings than I'll forgo purchase.  If not, and there is a not so dark ending, I'll purchase.

Check the poll.  If they did half *** it these numbers should have been perdicted by BW/EA.
http://social.biowar...59/polls/28861/

I hoping that this is just a case of pre-war nerves.
If not I'll rage later.
*crawls into corner*
It's gonna be ok.  It's gonna be ok.  It's gonna be ok.  It's gonna be ok.  It's gonna be ok.  It's gonna be ok.   

I posted the endings earlier. Each one Shepard tells the Normandy crew to leave. Regardless of your choice to destroy synthetics(reapers, EDI, Geth), assuming control(being absorbed as an AI), or merging synthetics and organics, the relays are destroyed. The Normandy is caught in the subsequent explosion(what is shown in the videos) trying to escape and they are stranded. In controlling or merging Shepard is destroyed. When destroying the synthetics you have a chance to live. These are your three endings(two of which have small variations). That's it.

i was hoping you would have the choice to sit down with the reaper boss and smoke a doob, drink some glen levit , and talk about the evolution of music on earth in the 21st century. I mean how could they want to destry us when they can get stoned and listen to bob marley.

unrealisic bull****.

[dw99027]

I see both sides but assuming that we aren't just the vocal minority and assuming that these indeed are the actual  endings back to back f*** ups refering to (DA2) this doesn't seem like keeping our job it seems like career suicide

There are millions of copies of ME3 sold globally. There is only a tiny portion of that number representing posters in ME-related forums, and an equally small fraction of them being vocal about it. So yes, you/we/they are the vocal minority. About the career thing, that's way to big of a conversation to have, and entirely off-topic.

[GSS115]

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

GSS115 wrote...

Bioware is fully aware of how just those endings will upset people. 

The vids that have leaked have no context other than the obvious relay explosions (and the normandy blowing up in only one of the vids ).  

It's too early for me to render the judgment with only this much intel.  I'm holding out till the 6th.
Then I'll decide.  If these are the only endings than I'll forgo purchase.  If not, and there is a not so dark ending, I'll purchase.

Check the poll.  If they did half *** it these numbers should have been perdicted by BW/EA.
http://social.biowar...59/polls/28861/

I hoping that this is just a case of pre-war nerves.
If not I'll rage later.
*crawls into corner*
It's gonna be ok.  It's gonna be ok.  It's gonna be ok.  It's gonna be ok.  It's gonna be ok.  It's gonna be ok.   

I posted the endings earlier. Each one Shepard tells the Normandy crew to leave. Regardless of your choice to destroy synthetics(reapers, EDI, Geth), assuming control(being absorbed as an AI), or merging synthetics and organics, the relays are destroyed. The Normandy is caught in the subsequent explosion(what is shown in the videos) trying to escape and they are stranded. In controlling or merging Shepard is destroyed. When destroying the synthetics you have a chance to live. These are your three endings(two of which have small variations). That's it.

No offense, but I'm going to lie to myself and state: You sir, are a liar. 

[albertalad]

Rdubs wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

In an interview with Computer and Videogames, BioWare marketing director David Silverman went so far as to call Mass Effect 3 the "best game we've ever made".

I'm just going to put this here....

Im thinking about starting a thread which collects all PR statements made by Bioware regarding all their promises and statements and then contrast them with how things really turned out.  Kind of serve as a quick reference guide for examining the credibility of future PR statements and interviews.  

I wish you would. According to the law YOUR product must meet your advertizing standard. In the real world business get splashed for selling products that don't live up to their claim. Whic is why we need BW's claims published!