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Lord Costantino

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 The picture in the link is me and I am sure most of the people when we saw that Bioware is still using the line "We have people who like it...". NO Bioware...NO....YOUR community and the Majority hate the ending!!!!

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Cybermortis wrote...

Fuzrum77 wrote...

 EA's stockholders will not just stand by and watch in horror as their money dwindles away.


The EA share price took a nose dive in Febuary (if I'm reading Yahoo finance correctly), but has remained roughly stable between $16-17 since then. 

Of course what investors will do if ME3 is allowed to fall into the toilet is another question....


Investors are quickly getting more and more wary after the SWTOR issues that dropped their price almost $10.. I think one of the reasons they aren't fixing this is becuase they think admitting they messed up will hurt their stocks even more. I honselty beleive they underestimate the movement, and will be in for a rude awakening when this information gets on mainstream news, and the investors start panicking.

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WvStolzing wrote...

Experimentel wrote...

Cybermortis wrote...

I wonder if BW are/were waiting for the second week sales figures to be made public before commenting or making a decision?


Could be. But I heard somewhere ME3 on amazon went from 60 dollars to 40 (or was it twenty?) pretty darn quickly.


Yes, finally amazon's own price fell to $42.00
Marketplace sellers have been selling at ~$45 for a while though.

I don't know whether that's normal though.

wow thats a huge drop in two weeks must have really bad sales fro that

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Phaedros wrote...

I did MP (which I hate .. frenetic with no talking to squad mates) to get my effective score to 4000+ & STILL didn't see my femshep breath in the rubble.

Pi**ed off doesn't begin to describe it!


The same thing happened to me. I did every sidequest I came across and I stopped by the Citadel constantly to pick up new quests, and ended up with about 3,500 EMS. I played enough multiplayer to get it to 5,000 plus and still didn't get the breath. Though honestly my reaction to not seeing it was, "eh, whatever." Probably wouldn't have made me feel better about it anyway.

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Misterdde45000 wrote...

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I left a reply as well, so should anyone here who has a twitter account


Me too. I suggest them to go on with a FB poll in order to see who is the minority and who is the m ajority as well as gaining feedback. No responses so far >.>


Excellent.  Ten bucks says they would never make that poll in a millions years.  =P 

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Cybermortis wrote...

I *think* you can if you have an imported character who followed the paragon path in the first two games, and who had an excess of resorces at the end of ME2. I know I got extra EMS points for resorces plus some assets from Ilos that were related to decisions made in ME1.


Nope. I imported a Shep through the whole trilogy. Took the paragon choice for every major decision. Had over 200,000 excess of every resource. Still only ended up with 3700 EMS.

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WvStolzing wrote...

Deschi wrote...

btw if any developer/publisher (not only Bioware or EA) would be REALLY interested in feedback, they would do this: ask the customer after finishign the game to fill in a questionnaire about the played game and suggestions to improve... one questionnaire per registered game... not that hard to do.


It's still not too late for BW to go on a referandum, actually.

I support this idea wholeheartedly.

They could just send us the questionnaire over Origin.


They won't do that because they haven't admitted there is a problem yet.

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DuncanId wrote...

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Pandoravv3 wrote...

MEs latest twitter stated that while they are considering changing the endings, they are getting alot of people suggesting that they don't change the endings. I really hate when people do that. It doesn't matter how many people are on the opposing side, the few that say what you want to hear are worth more.


Easy answer to that one. Make the new endings an optional download.

There... drama solved.


For pities sake, just compare the godd**n facebook pages, as well as every poll on the internet. The majority hate the ending.

It's like they're saying, to keep those 1000 fans that like the ending we're more than willing to lose 50,000. What kind of logic is this?


Catalyst logic.


I like my logic.. My logic dictates that if they persue this logic they are holding too, and not make the effort to correct the endings, my support for BW and my money are gone..

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FYI you need at least 4000 readiness rateing and must "save" Anderson or at least 5000 readiness rateing and choose to destroy in order to get the Sheapard taking a breath scene. And that is according to the stratigy guide.

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Oh man i love this Mass Effect Twitter Account. It was a really great idea of them to actually let People (yeah i dont think that this is just one person responding there, or is it ? Oo) respond nonstop to the Fans.

If you take a look on the Mass Effect Twitter Account everything just seems Lovely and Great and Positive. Everyone is so nice and if i take a quick look then there are all the time more responses to the Postive Messages regarding Mass Effect then Negative. Great Public Relations i must give them my Respect. Naturally they need to say that there are so many People (Many = can start at 2 People) who like the Ending, how would it look if they say since Day One of the Mass Effect 3 Release "Yeah you know, we know it sucks but yeah", "Thats it, sry Guys :(", "Oh please guys, just take your Money back, the End isnt good".


They need to stay Positiv and have a Positive look to the Outside, i understand and Respect that, just hope that they dont forget us. Im waiting till PAX for and official Statement (but nontheless hope they do one before) and "Hold the Line" =)

Edit: Oh yes, i know there a actually many people who like the Ending. Thats Great, im happy for them  ! So i wish they let me my Moment to be Happy too !

Modifié par CheekyWeazel, 20 mars 2012 - 08:56 .


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Experimentel wrote...

I think it's strange they're calling it 'an affront'. We loved the game, we invested so much emotion and time into all three games. It's not like we hate what they do for us - it's exactly the opposite. We loved the series so much we're concerned about what happened.


Yeah, Bioware would never dare say that out of their owns mouths. That's why they invent fake people who gave them fake feedback. Or look for the crazy cat lady of the internet and sequester her opinion.

Modifié par Mavaras, 20 mars 2012 - 08:54 .


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Been out of the loop for a while, playing mass effect 2 (no, that's not a typo).

Somehow, I don't buy that story about a lot of feedback in support of the current ending.
Anyone, who likes the ending "as is" has very low, or no standards at all.
Last time I wrote as much, the reaction was very predictable: "oh very clever, we don't agree with your opinion, so you insult us"

Well, **** junior - that ending is just so universally bad, that anyone who fails to see it should have their heads checked, and it's not a matter of opinion.

In the mass effect 3 ending, BioWare literally "steps in", to take control of cdr. Shepard away from the players, in order to facilitate an ending that BW wants the game to have. That is an abomination. I've been playing pnp rpgs for more than 15 years (GM'ing actually), and if there is one sacred rule you NEVER break, it's that the GM does not play the players' characters. The GM runs the world, but the control over the player's character must never be taken away from the player. This formula allows for some shortcuts (like cutscenes), but what happens in the ending...

well, let's just say that any GM that ever does that is simply an incompetent moron, and simply being BioWare doesn't earn you a reprieve.


AFAIK, those that oppose the ending change (and for the record - I want the endings changed - not just new ones added - the only real way to fix this mess is to retcon the present ending - as there is only one - kudos to whoever tweeted about colour blind settings - out of existance and into damnatio memorae) see us as simply wanting rainbows and unicorns - as illustraded by the penny arcade strip (which appears to have been drawn by someone who's sense of humour and common sense have been surgically removed and replaced with a potato).

That is not the case. But if MY Shepard (because Shepard is MY character, not BioWare's - I, as the player, have put not only the face on Shepard's head, but also the soul in Shepards body by playing through the games. Shepard as created by BW is a blank slate, to be filled in as the player chooses) is going to sacrifice himself for the good of the galaxy, it will be because I choose to, not because the developers tell me to.


That said, ME3 is a very good game, and if some bright spark at BW doesn't go into full panic mode and bans me from the forums, I might pop out a full review later.


As a random note: did you notice, that the prothean Vi on Thessia (if questioned) says that there was a conflict among the Protheans, and that the crucible was not used because a group that wanted control of the reapers (and that later turned out to be indoctrinated) sabotaged their efforts. Doesn't that remind you of someone?

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tenojitsu wrote...

Sunnyhat1 wrote...

Well this is disturbing.

I like how they use the word "plenty." What a vague word.


If they call the "likers" "plenty"...
... what would they call us? Legions?

Did I say Legions? :lol:

#50564
MisterP146

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sadako wrote...

https://twitter.com/...188923588579329
We are getting plenty of feedback from people who love the ending and consider the thought of changing it an affront, as well.

Too bad bioware, I'm gone, that just made sure that I'll not be buying your DA3 and the rest of your products. Goodbye.


Hold on a second guys, after reading this post again it seems I was mistaken into interpreting it as Bioware's stance on the issue.

If anyone else made that mistake it seems as if they are just referring to fans who liked the ending that also though changing the ending was an affront.

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Maike91

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Sunnyhat1 wrote...

Well this is disturbing.


oh boy:unsure:

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bowery tuff

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chosen_trekie wrote...

FYI you need at least 4000 readiness rateing and must "save" Anderson or at least 5000 readiness rateing and choose to destroy in order to get the Sheapard taking a breath scene. And that is according to the stratigy guide.


I chose destroy too. I had everything in line with what the strategy guides called for. Just, no breath. I guess I just did something wrong.

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sadako wrote...

https://twitter.com/...188923588579329
We are getting plenty of feedback from people who love the ending and consider the thought of changing it an affront, as well.


Wow. Just wow 

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Lord Costantino wrote...

Sunnyhat1 wrote...

Well this is disturbing.


I swear...my anger is rising...WHAT is so hard for them to see that the MAJORITY HATE teh ending...What happen to the old Bioware?:mellow:


The EA indoctrination.

#50569
Cybermortis

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One second please. Going to bite the bullet and load up ME3 long enough to see what my rating was at the end of the game.

Requesting a therapist for when I return....

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is there any news for a dlc for the end or any rumors? please contact me because i wil have to sleep now

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MisterP146

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I think that twitter post was just very poorly worded.

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sadako wrote...

https://twitter.com/...188923588579329
We are getting plenty of feedback from people who love the ending and consider the thought of changing it an affront, as well.

Too bad bioware, I'm gone, that just made sure that I'll not be buying your DA3 and the rest of your products. Goodbye.



Relax for a second.  That was a reply to a question and not an official statement.  Plenty is not a strict definition.  Just keep up the fight.

 That being said, bioware can end ALL of this with a simple statement regarding their decision.  They have enough data.  Just the pr machine waiting it out.

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To be fair  a full on press release by someone with a name and not the ME3 twitter account is what im waiting for...though I am low on cash and should really focus on finding work. but sod it lol I want an ending good or bad, (I prefer good ofc) lol

Modifié par Teleraine, 20 mars 2012 - 08:59 .


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I just have to say I am amazed at the continuous involvment in the forums; honestly, by the time i get to the bottom of one page another one has already been created. Also, I mentioned once before how it is funny that in politics, presidential approval ratings etc. are usually based on the opinions of only 1000 or so people, and that is claimed to be the "Majority", whereas with ME3 virtually thousands of people across the globe are in agreement, yet bioware still plays the politics logic, and assume that the lesser number of supporters somehow outnumbers the number of people who dislike the endings.

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Sunnyhat1 wrote...

Well this is disturbing.


Dont know if im reading more into it then what it is.
But when he or she or the bot says "aswell" im thinking he/she the tweeter or bioware themself.

Gah, the silence from em is making me crazy. :o

Modifié par Zhijn, 20 mars 2012 - 09:01 .