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[spacefiddle]

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

me don't like

http://www.gaminguni...fect--7983.html

I'm going to defend the ending and shake my cane at these hippy entitled kids who want flowers and sunshine when back in my day we had the Bible and a nice apple and you don't need an ending and actually there's no resolution but there is but not so much but that's ok but I'd like to know what happened after but I'm ok that I don't...

This is a rambly, incoherent mess, that repeats all the same tired "entitled fanboy" crap other paid-for gamer sites have been parroting.  Let's see....

The tagline of the article is "you can't expect everything to be resolved."  Brilliant.  He hasn't done his homework one bit, or he'd know that's *exactly* what we were told to expect by Bioware.  So fail.

While gamingunion.net has strong industry ties and substantial back-end investment, this seems more like sloppy journalism and a desire to leap on the apologist bandwagon without adding any real opinion to it - repeated, tired old memes and illogical, Ouroborous statements.  Maybe someone there said "zomg, we haven't chimed in and advertisers are complaining," and they slapped this together, who knows.

[Sevantha]

Pilzz wrote...

www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/116427-BioShock-Creator-Sad-Over-ME3s-Ending-Scandal
What are your thoughts on this?

some that would include the usage of alot of stars (*)
I did leave a reply to the first comment though. Its ridiculous what these people are thinking.
It should make him sad how crappy these endings are and not that people complain about it. And whats with the comparing to certain books. Books dont tell you "hey your choices will matter." Books tell their story from A to B and that's it. You dont have any influence on the outcome and they never tell yout that you will.
Bioware told us we would have influence and that our choices would matter and we would get 16 different endings and none of that was really true.
Also i bet you anything, if Rohling had decided to kill of Harry Potter at the end of the last book, made voldemort win and put some other weird plotholes in it, her fans would have gone crazy about it too and demand a different ending

[Pandoravv3]

Cybermortis wrote...

WvStolzing wrote...

ArmyKnifeX wrote...
BW is unable to release a statement about when they can release a statement. They won't even tell us when they can talk about the ending. It had better be by PAX East.

Is that PAX thing going to take place before amazon's return period ends?

PAX is on the 6th April. Bioware will be there and it is well known that they were intending to make some statement about ME3 there. This is from before the call for a new ending started btw.

Watch it be MP DLC, or an equipment pack.

[TamiBx]

Teleraine wrote...

I would pay for any ending DLC that let me choose whether I got a sad or happy or bitter-sweet ending just so long as it isn't a soul crushingly depressing one.

...But just them blue babies...Cant't say why but I really really want them.

If they are going to give us new endings, they might as well make happy ones too. Seriously. We just want the choice, not something dictated by Bioware. 
Shenko babies...

[Computim]

Pandoravv3  wrote...

Honestly, I thought the CNN segment was a little insulting. Not only did they say that BW was changing the ending, and the controversy was wrapped up, the newswoman seemed to be quite snarky about it. It felt like she was looking down her nose at us "entitled kids"

Nah.. she just didn't have a clue about it lol.. if you listened she also thought Mario Party 9 was the most important and popular game of the bunch haha.

Modifié par Computim, 20 mars 2012 - 10:00 .

[ld1449]

Puppet_Guy wrote...

"Entitled whiners".  A label created by opposers to give voice to those who break their logic.  In the end, it does not matter.
We are Leigon.  And long after they peter out and give up trying to dissuade us, we will endure.

Hold the line.

This right here should be our damn logo

[Geinen]

Pandoravv3 wrote...

Watch it be MP DLC, or an equipment pack.

Watch it be an amazing mini game with Joker collecting firewood

[spacefiddle]

ArmyKnifeX wrote...

You know guys I'm honestly a little worried that some of the flamier posts on Twitter and these boards as well as others are the result of EA going behind BioWare's back and hiring out people to be inflammatory.

Remember that this is the same company whose marketing division hired FAKE PROTESTORS to pretend to be religious and pissed off about the game Dante's Inferno.

....

I have no words.

http://www.joystiq.c...est-was-staged/

Really, EA?  Really?

[dnalevel3]

Wraith 02 wrote...

Pilzz wrote...

www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/116427-BioShock-Creator-Sad-Over-ME3s-Ending-Scandal
What are your thoughts on this?

People really need to stop saying that video games are art. They are entertainment
     Feel free to express your art in free games but as soon as you start charging people money then you lose all artistic freedom and finished product should be what the customer wanted and not what you want to create.
     For example, If i payed someone to paint me a dog I would be slightly pissed off if they instead painted me a shoe claiming that they think the shoe is artistically better and then still charged me for it.
     You might claim its an artistic masterpiece but it's not what i ****ing asked for! XD

Expanding on that: It's also important to point out that the game itself IS NOT ART but rather it is A STORY. Is there art in this story? Why yes there is and it's fantastic(even with google images). ART doesn't have to make sense but STORIES absolutly do and the Mass Effect 3 ending absolutly DOES NOT. So that guy is 100% wrong.

Look at Zelda Wind Waker - People were all upset because of cartoonish graphics; that is an ART choice. The game and STORY were so good that it ended up not mattering what people thought of the ART. In Mass Effect 3 it's just the opposite, the ART is fantastic but the STORY is terrible (a bad ending will ruin a story completely).

[K-J4y]

Benirus wrote...

K-J4y wrote...

I admit, I thought about the endings a lot.
It isn't that bad in my opinion. What if the endings are actually perfect made? I mean, when the endings reflect all the experience, gathered in the whole series. With every choise possible in mind.
It was stated that when you take your experience of the game into the final scenes, that this becomes your very own conclusion.
This is maybe possible, I mean if you know every single aspect of your game, every outcome of choise you are possible to make, no matter what attitude you might have. Even then it's way too comprehensive for my little mind.
So to get to the point, the way how possible endings would look like is immense and perhaps too much work to finish in time.

I thought.... of, well actually this keeps me busy for a long time, maybe Shepard has to die. Well, I'm okay with that, and even if BioWare had only one possible end, that would also be okay. But what if the players would be forced to let Shepard die? Like: you got the choise to save your live and fight another day and everything you love will be destroyed or sacrifice yourself in order to save the people you love.
That could touch people emotional. Making difficult decisions is always epic. I think of the event on Virmire, to chose who has to die and who can live on.

I'd rather cry my last tear in the end than asking myself questions again and again, on what the endings basically mean.
Anyways, the tale is written and my mind is just to simple to comprehend. Sadly. 

You're mind isn't to simple to comprehend, it's the damn ending that simply cannot be comprehended.

Doesn't matter if it's from a business standpoint, art standpoint, logical standpoint or desperate standpoint.

That sounds kinda rough.
I mean there should be some idea behind the scen shouldn't it?
Even EA wouldn't publish an unfinished game... or maybe yes... what do I know?!

Modifié par K-J4y, 20 mars 2012 - 10:01 .

[shrimprahmen]

was worse than bittersweet......was fully expecting i might have to sacrafice myself at the end.....but for that pile of garbage..... 

[Bubi7]

Cybermortis wrote...
Lets keep things civil, both here and on twitter.
Bare in mind that the peeps on Twitter probably have less idea of what is going on at BW than we do. They have been thrown to the front lines, coming under heavy and sustained fire with little or no support from 'high command'.
Hardly surprising if they make typo's from time to time.
Let's not hassle the twitter feed unless there is a specific point that needs to be clarified or addressed. Apart from anything else they would just block up, and could get you banned from twitter entirely.

I agree with you. My concern is, that now even after a bunch of days there are no clear statements or answers from "high command" as you call it. It's basically a yes or no, either:
YES we will release a DLC which offers closure to the endings and changes them in a closure-offering way.
or
NO, there will be no DLC in that regard. However, there will be a few DLCs, whose timeline will be before the final reapers assault on earth.
Dang, it can't be so hard! In programming it is called either TRUE or FALSE, 1 or 0. That's one single bit.
This message I just posted is 9448 bits long...

[Auralius Carolus]

ArmyKnifeX wrote...

ld1449 wrote...

ArmyKnifeX wrote...

You know guys I'm honestly a little worried that some of the flamier posts on Twitter and these boards as well as others are the result of EA going behind BioWare's back and hiring out people to be inflammatory.

Remember that this is the same company whose marketing division hired FAKE PROTESTORS to pretend to be religious and pissed off about the game Dante's Inferno.

If this is true then we're in some serious trouble, and everyone here needs to get on the ball with this and tell them that these people are not us. Go further even and tell the reviewers that are being antagonistic to "calm down" and expressly state that you're in the ME3 movement and that you do not support his/her way of carrying the message

This is why I've been so vehemently against people expressing their outrage outragously. We NEED to be civil and calm. It makes identifying anybody who could be fake from those of us who aren't. And when we talk to these people to try to calm them down we need to remain civil ourselves.

Yep. It's very very easy for a grassroots movement to be tainted by a relative handful of infiltrators waving signs that don't represent, at all, the views of the others. I'm not about to presume that they are hostile agents, as I have no prove whatsoever, but it's still worth noting.

[Matt_gekko88]

shrimprahmen wrote...

was worse than bittersweet......was fully expecting i might have to sacrafice myself at the end.....but for that pile of garbage..... 

Welcome friend. Take a seat, grab a cookie and let us hold the line.

[Tyranniac]

Teleraine wrote...

I would pay for any ending DLC that let me choose whether I got a sad or happy or bitter-sweet ending just so long as it isn't a soul crushingly depressing one.

...But just them blue babies...Cant't say why but I really really want them.

You and me both, you and me both... 

[SiriusXI]

So the https://twitter.com/#!/masseffect does in fact get A LOT of positive feedback on the endings. Are there really so many people who just twitter and do not take part in polls? Man... I feel sick... How can anyone like these things?

[Computim]

spacefiddle wrote...

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

me don't like

http://www.gaminguni...fect--7983.html

I'm going to defend the ending and shake my cane at these hippy entitled kids who want flowers and sunshine when back in my day we had the Bible and a nice apple and you don't need an ending and actually there's no resolution but there is but not so much but that's ok but I'd like to know what happened after but I'm ok that I don't...

This is a rambly, incoherent mess, that repeats all the same tired "entitled fanboy" crap other paid-for gamer sites have been parroting.  Let's see....

The tagline of the article is "you can't expect everything to be resolved."  Brilliant.  He hasn't done his homework one bit, or he'd know that's *exactly* what we were told to expect by Bioware.  So fail.

While gamingunion.net has strong industry ties and substantial back-end investment, this seems more like sloppy journalism and a desire to leap on the apologist bandwagon without adding any real opinion to it - repeated, tired old memes and illogical, Ouroborous statements.  Maybe someone there said "zomg, we haven't chimed in and advertisers are complaining," and they slapped this together, who knows.

Ironically the people of old would complain a lot more quickly.. if you had a problem in the 60s you wrote a letter to the company, if you weren't happy with the response said company provided you sent all of that with a letter to the editor, and then everyone knew, and if it was bad, the company did badly .. or fixed it.

[spacefiddle]

Computim wrote...

Pandoravv3  wrote...

Honestly, I thought the CNN segment was a little insulting. Not only did they say that BW was changing the ending, and the controversy was wrapped up, the newswoman seemed to be quite snarky about it. It felt like she was looking down her nose at us "entitled kids"

Nah.. she just didn't have a clue about it lol.. if you listened she also thought Mario Party 9 was the most important and popular game of the bunch haha.

I'm sure the more technically literate people at CNN are banging their heads into their desks right now.  Still, CNN has never really pretended to be pro-consumer, and they're still thinking this is a Consumer Rights vs. Corporate Rights issue.  They should read Forbes more. 

[monima]

I am just in awe of HarbyTheReaper right now. How does he come up with all of this

[chujwamdotego]

Good night everyone, will hear You tomorrow (at least it will be tomorrow in my time zone )

Before I depart let me just say one thing - ReME3 is to big right now to be easily forgotten.

It is on game-industry media, mainstream media (CNN, BBC, Forbes) and even on some symposiums - this is something I have never seen in my life.

Let's keep it civil, let's not waste time over some "twiity" responses from God-knows-who supposedly in Bioware and let's hold the line. There is really nothing to loose for us and only to gain for OUR Mass Effect.

I really enjoy staying with You.

[Cybermortis]

Pandoravv3 wrote...

Cybermortis wrote...

WvStolzing wrote...

ArmyKnifeX wrote...
BW is unable to release a statement about when they can release a statement. They won't even tell us when they can talk about the ending. It had better be by PAX East.

Is that PAX thing going to take place before amazon's return period ends?

PAX is on the 6th April. Bioware will be there and it is well known that they were intending to make some statement about ME3 there. This is from before the call for a new ending started btw.

Watch it be MP DLC, or an equipment pack.

And then watch as the Bioware team finds itself talking to two security guards, a cardboard cutout of Shepard and the gently swinging door everyone just walked through.

I'd also estimate a 30% probability of the Shepard cutout attempting to run away and a 70% probability of it spontainiously bursting into flame. 

[Deventh]

And i was right...2000 pages and no announcement at all.

[darknessmyown]

http://9gag.com/gag/3412527

[Benirus]

K-J4y wrote...

That sounds kinda rough.
I mean there should be some idea behind the scen shouldn't it?
Even EA wouldn't publish an unfinished game... or maybe yes... what do I know?!

Lot's of speculation from everyone

No, but seriusly the only thing I can accept as a possible solution is that they needed more time, but EA was behind them with a pitchfork.

Damn rEApers...

[Gi-Joe-Ge]

K-J4y wrote...

I admit, I thought about the endings a lot.
It isn't that bad in my opinion. What if the endings are actually perfect made?
(...)

This doesn't explain plot holes or teleporting squad members.

I think the ending that we are seeing is the result of rush, rush development to be ready for March release; unless indoctrination theory turns out to be true.