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xtorma wrote...

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This ending just reminds me too much of Halo 3.


Never played Halo 3 but I know about it and how it disappointed many.  Still, the series came out with ODST which I heard some good about and Halo: Reach which I played (my first Halo game since Halo 2) and very much enjoyed (and it had a "bittersweet" ending given that Reach is lost and you know it's going to happen)  and now Halo 4 is in the works so who knows...

There's a lot Mass Effect can come out with.    A First Contact War game.  A MMO.  A post- Shepard game.... lots of possibilities.  BW/EA have a hit/money maker with Mass Effect.  They're not done with it yet, bank on it.


I don't think they're going to end either.  Someone said that if there is another game, it will be set in the past.  I highly doubt that.  Fans will want to move forward.  We'll want to know what happened after.  I just don't believe we have all the context to what actually has happened. I don't care what people say.


they have already proven that what the "fans" want is no where near important to them.


It's disheartening because after playing DA2 it was clear statistics and sales were making their games. I still maintained hope, albiet a bit apprehensive because although made by the same company, Mass Effect was a different team.

Then the story was leaked, and the new characters were announced. And damn if it didn't feel like DA2 all over again.

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The Free Jaffa wrote...

xtorma wrote...

The Free Jaffa wrote...

Yakko77 wrote...

The Free Jaffa wrote...

This ending just reminds me too much of Halo 3.


Never played Halo 3 but I know about it and how it disappointed many.  Still, the series came out with ODST which I heard some good about and Halo: Reach which I played (my first Halo game since Halo 2) and very much enjoyed (and it had a "bittersweet" ending given that Reach is lost and you know it's going to happen)  and now Halo 4 is in the works so who knows...

There's a lot Mass Effect can come out with.    A First Contact War game.  A MMO.  A post- Shepard game.... lots of possibilities.  BW/EA have a hit/money maker with Mass Effect.  They're not done with it yet, bank on it.


I don't think they're going to end either.  Someone said that if there is another game, it will be set in the past.  I highly doubt that.  Fans will want to move forward.  We'll want to know what happened after.  I just don't believe we have all the context to what actually has happened. I don't care what people say.


they have already proven that what the "fans" want is no where near important to them.


Yeah, until I play the game myself and have full and complete context, not silent videos, nothing is proven.  There are too many inconsistencies here.  I'm not in denial, I'm just not jumping to frelling conclusions because of some silent videos online.


To go with those silent videos..

http://social.biowar...scussion/19729/

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204 pages without Bioware giving a decent reason for misleading the public in these interviews regarding endings.

Amazingly disappointing. :(

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one person in the spoiler group said it best:


It's the last game in the series, so they don't feel any need to keep their fans pleased anymore.
 
So the happy ending for you is:
- the galactic civilization is destroyed,
- your friends dies of thirst and hunger (like many other colonies in the galaxy),
- Shepard cries a river separated from his/her LI,
- the space hamster got skinned alive,
 
Congratulations, you won!
~ Game Over ~

I loled.

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MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

The Free Jaffa wrote...

xtorma wrote...

The Free Jaffa wrote...

Yakko77 wrote...

The Free Jaffa wrote...

This ending just reminds me too much of Halo 3.


Never played Halo 3 but I know about it and how it disappointed many.  Still, the series came out with ODST which I heard some good about and Halo: Reach which I played (my first Halo game since Halo 2) and very much enjoyed (and it had a "bittersweet" ending given that Reach is lost and you know it's going to happen)  and now Halo 4 is in the works so who knows...

There's a lot Mass Effect can come out with.    A First Contact War game.  A MMO.  A post- Shepard game.... lots of possibilities.  BW/EA have a hit/money maker with Mass Effect.  They're not done with it yet, bank on it.


I don't think they're going to end either.  Someone said that if there is another game, it will be set in the past.  I highly doubt that.  Fans will want to move forward.  We'll want to know what happened after.  I just don't believe we have all the context to what actually has happened. I don't care what people say.


they have already proven that what the "fans" want is no where near important to them.


Yeah, until I play the game myself and have full and complete context, not silent videos, nothing is proven.  There are too many inconsistencies here.  I'm not in denial, I'm just not jumping to frelling conclusions because of some silent videos online.


To go with those silent videos..

http://social.biowar...scussion/19729/



I'm not being given every single bit of dialogue.  Please, send me to a link that shows me every bit of dialogue before, after, and during these cutscenes.  These means nothing to me.

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ZDPhoenix wrote...

204 pages without Bioware giving a decent reason for misleading the public in these interviews regarding endings.

Amazingly disappointing. :(


They're smart to keep quiet. There really is nothing they can say that will sound good at this point.

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The Free Jaffa wrote...

xtorma wrote...

The Free Jaffa wrote...

Yakko77 wrote...

The Free Jaffa wrote...

This ending just reminds me too much of Halo 3.


Never played Halo 3 but I know about it and how it disappointed many.  Still, the series came out with ODST which I heard some good about and Halo: Reach which I played (my first Halo game since Halo 2) and very much enjoyed (and it had a "bittersweet" ending given that Reach is lost and you know it's going to happen)  and now Halo 4 is in the works so who knows...

There's a lot Mass Effect can come out with.    A First Contact War game.  A MMO.  A post- Shepard game.... lots of possibilities.  BW/EA have a hit/money maker with Mass Effect.  They're not done with it yet, bank on it.


I don't think they're going to end either.  Someone said that if there is another game, it will be set in the past.  I highly doubt that.  Fans will want to move forward.  We'll want to know what happened after.  I just don't believe we have all the context to what actually has happened. I don't care what people say.


they have already proven that what the "fans" want is no where near important to them.


Yeah, until I play the game myself and have full and complete context, not silent videos, nothing is proven.  There are too many inconsistencies here.  I'm not in denial, I'm just not jumping to frelling conclusions because of some silent videos online.


lemming

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The Free Jaffa wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

The Free Jaffa wrote...

xtorma wrote...

The Free Jaffa wrote...

Yakko77 wrote...

The Free Jaffa wrote...

This ending just reminds me too much of Halo 3.


Never played Halo 3 but I know about it and how it disappointed many.  Still, the series came out with ODST which I heard some good about and Halo: Reach which I played (my first Halo game since Halo 2) and very much enjoyed (and it had a "bittersweet" ending given that Reach is lost and you know it's going to happen)  and now Halo 4 is in the works so who knows...

There's a lot Mass Effect can come out with.    A First Contact War game.  A MMO.  A post- Shepard game.... lots of possibilities.  BW/EA have a hit/money maker with Mass Effect.  They're not done with it yet, bank on it.


I don't think they're going to end either.  Someone said that if there is another game, it will be set in the past.  I highly doubt that.  Fans will want to move forward.  We'll want to know what happened after.  I just don't believe we have all the context to what actually has happened. I don't care what people say.


they have already proven that what the "fans" want is no where near important to them.


Yeah, until I play the game myself and have full and complete context, not silent videos, nothing is proven.  There are too many inconsistencies here.  I'm not in denial, I'm just not jumping to frelling conclusions because of some silent videos online.


To go with those silent videos..

http://social.biowar...scussion/19729/



I'm not being given every single bit of dialogue.  Please, send me to a link that shows me every bit of dialogue before, after, and during these cutscenes.  These means nothing to me.


They're the endings. Why do you need dialog? Shepard could say, "See you in hell Reapers!" or "My only regret is that I didn't sleep with Garrus, twice." and the endings would still be that same.

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I love that endings are not allways happy and cheery... Because THATS LIFE!!! I killed of Jacob and green guy... The Assasin thingy in ME2 not only because they were borring but because if they all survived it would be to damn many smiles in a Sci-Fi story that would supposed to be dark!!!

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Wow over 200 pages of people freaking out about an ending which they have very little context. Sorry even a poster describing a ending without the context of the full game is simply not enough context....never mind the TONE the ending actually takes.

The only thing you can do to fairly judge is PLAY THE GAME.

Really the posters in this thread mostly deserve to be trolled. If you are going to be illogical about something, prejudging without seeing the full picture, I am going to call a spade a spade and drop a bomb on you.

Canceling a preorder and not buying the game because of a leak you have not seen the full picture of is idiotic and illogical. Simply put.

And facts are facts, ME3 will have more ending variations than any Bioware game ever. Lets see, BG games can have up to three, KOTOR has two, JE has two true and one false ending, ME1 has 2 variations of two endings, DAO has 4 with sloppy ending cards, ME2 has 3 endings varying body count, and DA2 has two.

ME3 has 7

And did your choices really matter in old Bioware games? Except for maybe a choice or two at the ned. No. Hell, DA2 has the old games beat on choice and consquence from the Deep Roads decision alone, nevermind the fact that it affects DLC as well. Still TW2 crushes it. Facts are facts, ME3 has beter choice and consquence than all other Bioware games.

Fans make out older Bioware games as better than they are, they were great for their time, but their writing flaws and the lack of choice shows bigtime now.

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Don't mind bittersweet endings... I acturally expected it in the ME trilogy!!

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DaneWolf wrote...

I love that endings are not allways happy and cheery... Because THATS LIFE!!! I killed of Jacob and green guy... The Assasin thingy in ME2 not only because they were borring but because if they all survived it would be to damn many smiles in a Sci-Fi story that would supposed to be dark!!!


And that, is an opinion. All my crew survived because I'm just that good of a leader.

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I think I stick to the multiplayer and leave the single player alone.

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txgoldrush wrote...

Wow over 200 pages of people freaking out about an ending which they have very little context. Sorry even a poster describing a ending without the context of the full game is simply not enough context....never mind the TONE the ending actually takes.

The only thing you can do to fairly judge is PLAY THE GAME.

Really the posters in this thread mostly deserve to be trolled. If you are going to be illogical about something, prejudging without seeing the full picture, I am going to call a spade a spade and drop a bomb on you.

Canceling a preorder and not buying the game because of a leak you have not seen the full picture of is idiotic and illogical. Simply put.

And facts are facts, ME3 will have more ending variations than any Bioware game ever. Lets see, BG games can have up to three, KOTOR has two, JE has two true and one false ending, ME1 has 2 variations of two endings, DAO has 4 with sloppy ending cards, ME2 has 3 endings varying body count, and DA2 has two.

ME3 has 7

And did your choices really matter in old Bioware games? Except for maybe a choice or two at the ned. No. Hell, DA2 has the old games beat on choice and consquence from the Deep Roads decision alone, nevermind the fact that it affects DLC as well. Still TW2 crushes it. Facts are facts, ME3 has beter choice and consquence than all other Bioware games.

Fans make out older Bioware games as better than they are, they were great for their time, but their writing flaws and the lack of choice shows bigtime now.


Why pay for it if this is possibly true. why not wait until we know for sure. we can save money.

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xtorma wrote...

The Free Jaffa wrote...

xtorma wrote...

The Free Jaffa wrote...

Yakko77 wrote...

The Free Jaffa wrote...

This ending just reminds me too much of Halo 3.


Never played Halo 3 but I know about it and how it disappointed many.  Still, the series came out with ODST which I heard some good about and Halo: Reach which I played (my first Halo game since Halo 2) and very much enjoyed (and it had a "bittersweet" ending given that Reach is lost and you know it's going to happen)  and now Halo 4 is in the works so who knows...

There's a lot Mass Effect can come out with.    A First Contact War game.  A MMO.  A post- Shepard game.... lots of possibilities.  BW/EA have a hit/money maker with Mass Effect.  They're not done with it yet, bank on it.


I don't think they're going to end either.  Someone said that if there is another game, it will be set in the past.  I highly doubt that.  Fans will want to move forward.  We'll want to know what happened after.  I just don't believe we have all the context to what actually has happened. I don't care what people say.


they have already proven that what the "fans" want is no where near important to them.


Yeah, until I play the game myself and have full and complete context, not silent videos, nothing is proven.  There are too many inconsistencies here.  I'm not in denial, I'm just not jumping to frelling conclusions because of some silent videos online.


lemming


You really want to flame me for saying we need more context?  Child.

Modifié par The Free Jaffa, 01 mars 2012 - 09:06 .


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ZDPhoenix wrote...

204 pages without Bioware giving a decent reason for misleading the public in these interviews regarding endings.

Amazingly disappointing. :(


beats the almighty Jesus or the almighty kicker of puppies ending of Bioware past where one choice can undo all the choices you made before. Your choices never mattered in the past anyway except for that one endgame choice.

Hell if it wasn;t for ending cards DAO has four hgappy endings with little variation.....nevermind that game having black and white morality in disguise.

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The Free Jaffa wrote...

xtorma wrote...

The Free Jaffa wrote...

xtorma wrote...

The Free Jaffa wrote...

Yakko77 wrote...

The Free Jaffa wrote...

This ending just reminds me too much of Halo 3.


Never played Halo 3 but I know about it and how it disappointed many.  Still, the series came out with ODST which I heard some good about and Halo: Reach which I played (my first Halo game since Halo 2) and very much enjoyed (and it had a "bittersweet" ending given that Reach is lost and you know it's going to happen)  and now Halo 4 is in the works so who knows...

There's a lot Mass Effect can come out with.    A First Contact War game.  A MMO.  A post- Shepard game.... lots of possibilities.  BW/EA have a hit/money maker with Mass Effect.  They're not done with it yet, bank on it.


I don't think they're going to end either.  Someone said that if there is another game, it will be set in the past.  I highly doubt that.  Fans will want to move forward.  We'll want to know what happened after.  I just don't believe we have all the context to what actually has happened. I don't care what people say.


they have already proven that what the "fans" want is no where near important to them.


Yeah, until I play the game myself and have full and complete context, not silent videos, nothing is proven.  There are too many inconsistencies here.  I'm not in denial, I'm just not jumping to frelling conclusions because of some silent videos online.


lemming


You really want to flame me for saying we need more context?  Child.

i'm 12, not a child

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ZDPhoenix wrote...

204 pages without Bioware giving a decent reason for misleading the public in these interviews regarding endings.

Amazingly disappointing. :(


It's par for the course. Whenever something drastically goes wrong with something, be it SW:TOR, Dragon Age: Origins, or Dragon Age 2 and the proverbial hits the fan, Bioware representatives usually never say anything for quite some time.

I assume they sit back, watch, make an informed assessment of the situation, and then formulate a reply that's designed to placate the majority rather add fuel to the fire. At this point, there's nothing that Bioware can say or do that wouldn't do the latter.

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xtorma wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Wow over 200 pages of people freaking out about an ending which they have very little context. Sorry even a poster describing a ending without the context of the full game is simply not enough context....never mind the TONE the ending actually takes.

The only thing you can do to fairly judge is PLAY THE GAME.

Really the posters in this thread mostly deserve to be trolled. If you are going to be illogical about something, prejudging without seeing the full picture, I am going to call a spade a spade and drop a bomb on you.

Canceling a preorder and not buying the game because of a leak you have not seen the full picture of is idiotic and illogical. Simply put.

And facts are facts, ME3 will have more ending variations than any Bioware game ever. Lets see, BG games can have up to three, KOTOR has two, JE has two true and one false ending, ME1 has 2 variations of two endings, DAO has 4 with sloppy ending cards, ME2 has 3 endings varying body count, and DA2 has two.

ME3 has 7

And did your choices really matter in old Bioware games? Except for maybe a choice or two at the ned. No. Hell, DA2 has the old games beat on choice and consquence from the Deep Roads decision alone, nevermind the fact that it affects DLC as well. Still TW2 crushes it. Facts are facts, ME3 has beter choice and consquence than all other Bioware games.

Fans make out older Bioware games as better than they are, they were great for their time, but their writing flaws and the lack of choice shows bigtime now.


Why pay for it if this is possibly true. why not wait until we know for sure. we can save money.


and why freak out over everything. Hell, I am not going to like EVERYTHING about ME3, but I am still going to get it.

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xtorma wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Wow over 200 pages of people freaking out about an ending which they have very little context. Sorry even a poster describing a ending without the context of the full game is simply not enough context....never mind the TONE the ending actually takes.

The only thing you can do to fairly judge is PLAY THE GAME.

Really the posters in this thread mostly deserve to be trolled. If you are going to be illogical about something, prejudging without seeing the full picture, I am going to call a spade a spade and drop a bomb on you.

Canceling a preorder and not buying the game because of a leak you have not seen the full picture of is idiotic and illogical. Simply put.

And facts are facts, ME3 will have more ending variations than any Bioware game ever. Lets see, BG games can have up to three, KOTOR has two, JE has two true and one false ending, ME1 has 2 variations of two endings, DAO has 4 with sloppy ending cards, ME2 has 3 endings varying body count, and DA2 has two.

ME3 has 7

And did your choices really matter in old Bioware games? Except for maybe a choice or two at the ned. No. Hell, DA2 has the old games beat on choice and consquence from the Deep Roads decision alone, nevermind the fact that it affects DLC as well. Still TW2 crushes it. Facts are facts, ME3 has beter choice and consquence than all other Bioware games.

Fans make out older Bioware games as better than they are, they were great for their time, but their writing flaws and the lack of choice shows bigtime now.


Why pay for it if this is possibly true. why not wait until we know for sure. we can save money.


This. I learned my lesson with DA2. Wait for a game to come out first before I start shoveling money its way.

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MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

The Free Jaffa wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

The Free Jaffa wrote...

xtorma wrote...

The Free Jaffa wrote...

Yakko77 wrote...

The Free Jaffa wrote...

This ending just reminds me too much of Halo 3.


Never played Halo 3 but I know about it and how it disappointed many.  Still, the series came out with ODST which I heard some good about and Halo: Reach which I played (my first Halo game since Halo 2) and very much enjoyed (and it had a "bittersweet" ending given that Reach is lost and you know it's going to happen)  and now Halo 4 is in the works so who knows...

There's a lot Mass Effect can come out with.    A First Contact War game.  A MMO.  A post- Shepard game.... lots of possibilities.  BW/EA have a hit/money maker with Mass Effect.  They're not done with it yet, bank on it.


I don't think they're going to end either.  Someone said that if there is another game, it will be set in the past.  I highly doubt that.  Fans will want to move forward.  We'll want to know what happened after.  I just don't believe we have all the context to what actually has happened. I don't care what people say.


they have already proven that what the "fans" want is no where near important to them.


Yeah, until I play the game myself and have full and complete context, not silent videos, nothing is proven.  There are too many inconsistencies here.  I'm not in denial, I'm just not jumping to frelling conclusions because of some silent videos online.


To go with those silent videos..

http://social.biowar...scussion/19729/



I'm not being given every single bit of dialogue.  Please, send me to a link that shows me every bit of dialogue before, after, and during these cutscenes.  These means nothing to me.


They're the endings. Why do you need dialog? Shepard could say, "See you in hell Reapers!" or "My only regret is that I didn't sleep with Garrus, twice." and the endings would still be that same.


I'm saying none of it makes any damn sense.  If people are right, that all of these endings destroy eezo technology, the galaxy is in complete shambles.  I'm sorry, but I have more faith in BioWare than that.  Not to mention, Sol will be crazy overpopulated with krogan, geth, quarians, turians and so forth.  None it it adds up.  I need some more context.  Why is that so frelling hard to understand?

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The Free Jaffa wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

The Free Jaffa wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

The Free Jaffa wrote...

xtorma wrote...

The Free Jaffa wrote...

Yakko77 wrote...

The Free Jaffa wrote...

This ending just reminds me too much of Halo 3.


Never played Halo 3 but I know about it and how it disappointed many.  Still, the series came out with ODST which I heard some good about and Halo: Reach which I played (my first Halo game since Halo 2) and very much enjoyed (and it had a "bittersweet" ending given that Reach is lost and you know it's going to happen)  and now Halo 4 is in the works so who knows...

There's a lot Mass Effect can come out with.    A First Contact War game.  A MMO.  A post- Shepard game.... lots of possibilities.  BW/EA have a hit/money maker with Mass Effect.  They're not done with it yet, bank on it.


I don't think they're going to end either.  Someone said that if there is another game, it will be set in the past.  I highly doubt that.  Fans will want to move forward.  We'll want to know what happened after.  I just don't believe we have all the context to what actually has happened. I don't care what people say.


they have already proven that what the "fans" want is no where near important to them.


Yeah, until I play the game myself and have full and complete context, not silent videos, nothing is proven.  There are too many inconsistencies here.  I'm not in denial, I'm just not jumping to frelling conclusions because of some silent videos online.


To go with those silent videos..

http://social.biowar...scussion/19729/



I'm not being given every single bit of dialogue.  Please, send me to a link that shows me every bit of dialogue before, after, and during these cutscenes.  These means nothing to me.


They're the endings. Why do you need dialog? Shepard could say, "See you in hell Reapers!" or "My only regret is that I didn't sleep with Garrus, twice." and the endings would still be that same.


I'm saying none of it makes any damn sense.  If people are right, that all of these endings destroy eezo technology, the galaxy is in complete shambles.  I'm sorry, but I have more faith in BioWare than that.  Not to mention, Sol will be crazy overpopulated with krogan, geth, quarians, turians and so forth.  None it it adds up.  I need some more context.  Why is that so frelling hard to understand?


It doesn't have to add up. They're not touching this particular story anymore. It's clear the writters didn't have a plan from the start. There is nothing to understand. The galaxy can be in complete shambles. It doesn't matter.

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Ah... Is it only ONE of the 7 endings people are talking down on about?!? Oh dear....
 So you've completed the game once... Try again and with a different ending!!!

Modifié par DaneWolf, 01 mars 2012 - 09:12 .


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MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

xtorma wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Wow over 200 pages of people freaking out about an ending which they have very little context. Sorry even a poster describing a ending without the context of the full game is simply not enough context....never mind the TONE the ending actually takes.

The only thing you can do to fairly judge is PLAY THE GAME.

Really the posters in this thread mostly deserve to be trolled. If you are going to be illogical about something, prejudging without seeing the full picture, I am going to call a spade a spade and drop a bomb on you.

Canceling a preorder and not buying the game because of a leak you have not seen the full picture of is idiotic and illogical. Simply put.

And facts are facts, ME3 will have more ending variations than any Bioware game ever. Lets see, BG games can have up to three, KOTOR has two, JE has two true and one false ending, ME1 has 2 variations of two endings, DAO has 4 with sloppy ending cards, ME2 has 3 endings varying body count, and DA2 has two.

ME3 has 7

And did your choices really matter in old Bioware games? Except for maybe a choice or two at the ned. No. Hell, DA2 has the old games beat on choice and consquence from the Deep Roads decision alone, nevermind the fact that it affects DLC as well. Still TW2 crushes it. Facts are facts, ME3 has beter choice and consquence than all other Bioware games.

Fans make out older Bioware games as better than they are, they were great for their time, but their writing flaws and the lack of choice shows bigtime now.


Why pay for it if this is possibly true. why not wait until we know for sure. we can save money.


This. I learned my lesson with DA2. Wait for a game to come out first before I start shoveling money its way.


The difference is DA2 had clear warning signs like its development cycle...ME3 does not. The difference was the game looked shoddy in previews while you are judging ME3 on a leak thats not supposed to come out that doesn't give th efull picture.

And DA2 was not bad.....it was DA's version of KOTOR II, better written but with far less polish.

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MelfinaofOutlawStar

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DaneWolf wrote...

Ah... Is it only ONE of the 7 endings people are ****ing about?!? Oh dear....


Three endings. One with two slight variations and one with three. The last one has no alternatives.