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[CimCake]

Risselda wrote...

NovemEnuma wrote...

 Just wait for the surprise ending, the one you get for beating New Game+. Maybe it will be...happier.

The "surprise ending" was the stargazer epilogue you could have obtained on your first playthrough with 6k EMS (or 5k? I forget)

Unless there is something I havent found :/

you get that ending if you import a me2 save or a me3 save. So a me2 save import counts as a New Game+

[Computim]

AshleyMadelineWilliams wrote...

CimCake wrote...

AshleyMadelineWilliams wrote...

NovemEnuma wrote...

 Just wait for the surprise ending, the one you get for beating New Game+. Maybe it will be...happier.

Im trying hard to do another replay... but my heart just gives in, in the end. I cant go through something like that again....

Actually the surprise ending is supposedly the same as if you imported a ME2 save :/ So if you played the game with your ME2 shep, then you've already seen it

They didnt treat the "passionate fans" good enough in my books. Everything they promised had some limitation in the final product... or none at all.

Good Customer Service: Amazon - Offering full refunds on OPENED copies of ME3.  That's seriously good business and why I use them for far too much.

Bad Customer Service: Completing a game under the same scope as I treated High School homework.  (HEY IF I FINISH IT RIGHT BEFORE class MAYBE THE TEACHER WON'T NOTICE)... sometimes it worked.. sometimes I got told epicly ;P

[Nevara]

SSV Phoenix returning for post rotation reports. Hold my spot on the line will be back in T - 5 hours.

Stay cool, calm and collected. We have each other's backs.

[Cybermortis]

LTBK wrote...

I don't know if I'm the only one, but honestly, I'm starting to not care for the game/s anymore (which implies future DLCs as well). Maybe it's just my mind finally trying to forget that terrible ending, but it kinda saddens me.

Anyways, I'll keep holding the line. The underlying cause is well worth it, as I see this not only as a request for better ME3 endings, but as a fight to prevent future crappy things in the gaming industry.

It's not just you.

I tried to start three new games after finishing...and only managed to get to Mars in one of them before quiting. Heck, I have a half-finished Shepard on ME2 and I can't even bring myself to boot that game up.

Come to think of it I can't drum up the energy to remove the ME3 disk from the drive.

Modifié par Cybermortis, 20 mars 2012 - 11:51 .

[Hydralysk]

Computim wrote...

Risselda wrote...

NovemEnuma wrote...

 Just wait for the surprise ending, the one you get for beating New Game+. Maybe it will be...happier.

The "surprise ending" was the stargazer epilogue you could have obtained on your first playthrough with 6k EMS (or 5k? I forget)

Unless there is something I havent found :/

Nah, there's a ME3+ save (Which is equivalent to playing a second time through or importing an ME2 character), it results in the Buzz Aldrin planet scene in which the grandpa talks about it being a long time ago on the stock photo of "Winter on Mars" lol

Isn't kind of funny that part of the 'art' they're trying to protect was just copied from another person? Or another game if we're talking about the choices. Don't get me wrong I loved JC Denton, but his choice had an entire game's buildup to have it make sense.

Modifié par Hydralysk, 20 mars 2012 - 11:51 .

[FinalEndeavor]

i tried importing one of my old me1 games to me2 and as miranda is talking about how shepard did everything and still its not enough i was like omg miranda knows the future!!!!

[Cpt.Cadrega]

-PG-Skyre wrote...

Can't help myself but post this;
For all the people saying games are art and therefor shouldn't be changed...you need to study art history. Whenever art was created for a "consumer", if the "consumer" didn't like it, it was changed. This sort of thing goes all the way back to the early ages of civilisation. Saying games are art pretty much works in our favor.

My thoughts exactly.
There is art for the sake of art and then there's commercial art. Both are art, but what changes is why they are made.
Art for the sake of being art is what happens when someone creates something (eg: a painter paints a drawing) because he wants to espress something for his own benefit, without having to worry about what a potential customer might think.
Commercial art (which is still art, I can not stress this enough) is made to cater to a customer (eg: someone commissions a portrait), and as such it is the customer that has the last saying on the product: if he does not like it, he is in his right to ask for a refund or a modification of the piece of art (as long as he is not being unreasonable).

Mass Effect 3 is art. However it's commercial art. And we, the customers, are not satisfied with one element of it.
To keep the portrait example going, it's like if someone commissioned a portrait of himself smiling while wearing a red hat with a white quill, and instead he is given a hat with a black quill... and he's missing half the teeth, and the ones that are there are of various shades of green. Now, ME3, imo, has a few areas where it's somewhat weaker than the previous titles: those are the black-colored quill, something I can honestly live with. Unfortunately the impression I'm getting from most videogame "journalists" is that we are making a huge deal of it.
We aren't. We are making a huge deal of the sickly-green smile that has been painted: an obvious flaw that we would like to have fixed.
The ending is just bad, and a lot of people have analysed all of it's failings, and even more are being brought up as I'm typing.

Those that defend the ending as being "art" are the same ones that would defend it with "it's only a game" and "it's just fiction": it's the usage of a stock phrase to try and picture players legitimately upset as being obtuse man-children that "just don't get it" or "need to have an Hollywood happy ending".
The sad part is that we are the ones trying to be reasonable about this.

[Puppet_Guy]

I can't bring myself to play a game unless it's with some friends.... Otherwise it just... Hurts.

[savagejuicebox]

Checking in, anything new on the front lines??

[Thore2k10]

i just wish bioware would say something soon!

[Computim]

Cpt.Cadrega wrote...

-PG-Skyre wrote...

Can't help myself but post this;
For all the people saying games are art and therefor shouldn't be changed...you need to study art history. Whenever art was created for a "consumer", if the "consumer" didn't like it, it was changed. This sort of thing goes all the way back to the early ages of civilisation. Saying games are art pretty much works in our favor.

My thoughts exactly.
There is art for the sake of art and then there's commercial art. Both are art, but what changes is why they are made.
Art for the sake of being art is what happens when someone creates something (eg: a painter paints a drawing) because he wants to espress something for his own benefit, without having to worry about what a potential customer might think.
Commercial art (which is still art, I can not stress this enough) is made to cater to a customer (eg: someone commissions a portrait), and as such it is the customer that has the last saying on the product: if he does not like it, he is in his right to ask for a refund or a modification of the piece of art (as long as he is not being unreasonable).

Mass Effect 3 is art. However it's commercial art. And we, the customers, are not satisfied with one element of it.
To keep the portrait example going, it's like if someone commissioned a portrait of himself smiling while wearing a red hat with a white quill, and instead he is given a hat with a black quill... and he's missing half the teeth, and the ones that are there are of various shades of green. Now, ME3, imo, has a few areas where it's somewhat weaker than the previous titles: those are the black-colored quill, something I can honestly live with. Unfortunately the impression I'm getting from most videogame "journalists" is that we are making a huge deal of it.
We aren't. We are making a huge deal of the sickly-green smile that has been painted: an obvious flaw that we would like to have fixed.
The ending is just bad, and a lot of people have analysed all of it's failings, and even more are being brought up as I'm typing.

Those that defend the ending as being "art" are the same ones that would defend it with "it's only a game" and "it's just fiction": it's the usage of a stock phrase to try and picture players legitimately upset as being obtuse man-children that "just don't get it" or "need to have an Hollywood happy ending".
The sad part is that we are the ones trying to be reasonable about this.

It's only art if they make it : http://www.gameinfor...vel-errors.aspx

[Hydralysk]

Thore2k10 wrote...

i just wish bioware would say something soon!

As do we all brother, but we'll hold the line until they do.

Modifié par Hydralysk, 20 mars 2012 - 11:55 .

[VyseN1]

My best friend just started the final mission on Earth. On boy. He asked me does it matter if I scan all the planets. I just said "no". lol. Little does he know, that Marauder Shields will be trying to protect him.

[Cybermortis]

*Muses as you do at midnight*

Does anyone else find it ironic that they included a 'Story' mode...given the nature of the ending?

Modifié par Cybermortis, 20 mars 2012 - 11:58 .

[shoshbear]

LTBK wrote...

I don't know if I'm the only one, but honestly, I'm starting to not care for the game/s anymore (which implies future DLCs as well). Maybe it's just my mind finally trying to forget that terrible ending, but it kinda saddens me.

Anyways, I'll keep holding the line. The underlying cause is well worth it, as I see this not only as a request for better ME3 endings, but as a fight to prevent future crappy things in the gaming industry.

This is exactly what Bioware and EA should be afraid of though. Us, their intended market, becoming apathetic to their product. When we stop caring they start losing customers and ultimately money. If they have any modicum of true damage control they'll release a statement soon saying they're either going to release a solid statement on the issue soon or they will just be upfront and say "incoming DLC" or "don't hold your breath." 

To be honest I'm beginning to feel worn out by this whole thing as well but I will continue to hold the line right beside you and my fellow gamers because I believe in holding a company culpable when it does not keep its word nor live up to the standards it has set in the past.

On a side note, the whole scouring of MassEffect twitter feed and poor Jessica Merizan's twitter feed (and yes I do pitty the position she is because while most of us are civil and polite but vocal, there are some out there who are downright rude to the woman when she has nothing to do with the development of the game nor any PR releases) for some hints as to what may come seems to be causing more damage to our cause than good. Wait the official statement from Bioware friends. There is no reason to get worked up over responses or musings that have no been confirmed by the BW brass.

As a previous fellow said before, We Are Legion. Hold The Line.

[Hydralysk]

VyseN1 wrote...

My best friend just started the final mission on Earth. On boy. He asked me does it matter if I scan all the planets. I just said "no". lol. Little does he know, that Marauder Shields will be trying to protect him.

Oh god, that's like watching a trainwreck about to happen.

[Snuppledink]

Hey all, random post time. I’ve been playing role playing games since I was 11 with the Red box Basic Edition DnD which was some 25 years ago. Primarily this lead to RPG games on a computer and my love of games like Mass Effect.

I play these sorts of games to escape the mediocrity and mundane life, for that of a Hero or Superhero (or Villain). As a kid most of us had the red cape (a towel for me) and ran about the backyard arms outstretched like Superman (once to the neighbour’s delight, I even went so far as to climb a tree in my undies pretending to be Tarzan), but this innocence is the basics of why role playing games are great, our imagination and involvement, the story and the choices we make, but most of all, all for fun.

I believe Mass Effect 1 and 2 had this, but if I had known how ME3 ended, I would never have bothered with them. About a week before the release of ME3 I replayed ME1 then ME2 doing everything in them so I had the save for ME3. It was all worth it, up to those last few minutes of ME3. Never have I felt so depressed, especially about a game and its ending, it wasn’t fun, it wasn’t even good... I’ve been lurking on the forums for some time, and checking very often to see the forums progress and for any news, but it seems this saga continues with no concrete statement from BioWare or EA over a fortnight after the game’s release.

I don’t want to sound as if I expected Chewbacca at the ending, but I did expect to walk away, with my Shepard a hero. It seems however the 90 odd hours of gameplay all came down to 3 choices, none of which fit.

So to reflect back on the where ME3 was on the right track (and I must say that the best Space battle opening I have seen) was when the Normandy popped out of the Mass Relay followed by the entire Galaxy’s fleets, all united to kick some Reaper hiney.

I see that reflected here on the forums and I would just like to say, I am proud of those holding the line, and thank you for it. You have made a difference to this veteran gamer. Don’t give up.

I salute you.

Victoria, Australia… out.

[Matt_gekko88]

Can't wait till we reach page 4000 :>
Maybe we heard something of BioWare then

[TamiBx]

Cybermortis wrote...

*Muses as you do at midnight*

Does anyone else find it ironic that they included a 'Story' mode...given the nature of the ending?

I do...
What's the difference anyways? Between regular RPG and story mode, I mean. Just the difficulty settings?

[MysticBinary82]

Experimentel wrote...

Xyalon wrote...

Screw this, I'm going to go and import one of my really old unused ME1 chars to ME2 and relive the good old days.

Naw, I'm going back to Skyrim. Arrow in the knee... never gets old.

meh I got bores after 160h of doing almost the same over and over again but that is offtopic

I realy thought about playing ME1 and 2 again. But I am not sure. Maybe if I let it take time then when I am finished there would be a ending DLC available (just hoping I know)

[Alamandorious]

You know what I find hilarious about the book recall?

No-one is calling the fans 'entitled' there

[Scottish_highlander]

Cybermortis wrote...

*Muses as you do at midnight*

Does anyone else find it ironic that they included a 'Story' mode...given the nature of the ending?

I was also freaked out by role-play mode making all of your choices meaningless with SPACE MAGIC

[RatedRRachel]

 Don't know if this has been posted (been out for a few hours)...

http://www.gadgetrev...ontroversy.html

A very good read. Hold the line! <3

[IAMN7]

just go watch this video it will all be explained

[Hydralysk]

Matt_gekko88 wrote...

Can't wait till we reach page 4000 :>
Maybe we heard something of BioWare then

Ha! We can always hope they're waiting for us to reach 2185 to tell us something.

Modifié par Hydralysk, 21 mars 2012 - 12:01 .